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Magoofan 10/22/2022 3:40pm
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Look. I like Ken. Much respect. ....but that title is about as worthless as it can possibly get. He beat out retirees and B-level riders. No...
Look. I like Ken. Much respect.

....but that title is about as worthless as it can possibly get.

He beat out retirees and B-level riders. No disrespect to those guys, it's just the cold hard fact.

The only reason he got it was because Tomac didn't show up as paid dog and pony show again.


World Championship....good grief.

Teej317 wrote:
Ken’s racing mindset is so weird to figure out. Ok you get a flat in race 2….well at least double around the track and roll the...
Ken’s racing mindset is so weird to figure out. Ok you get a flat in race 2….well at least double around the track and roll the finish line for a few more laps! Points! I feel like he gave up and when he found out he won the overall, the reaction was awkward. I mean this is a little two race series…how would he ever find success in US supercross without more tenacity? Very odd. Now THAT is what teams more than likely look at when considering his services in 23. Well….probably not because like someone else said, he is very marketable.
I see what you're saying. I have to take your word for it because I didn't even watch this round. The 1st one in UK was bad enough.
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Why don’t you take a 2nd look at the metal ramp and realize it can’t be rolled. I was on them from the beginning asking why...
Why don’t you take a 2nd look at the metal ramp and realize it can’t be rolled. I was on them from the beginning asking why a metal ramp. It may have injured Derek Kelly when he hit it with a flat. My guess is they wanted to skimp on the amount of dirt it would take to build a big finish line jump. I never expected the landing mound to be all scaffolding with dirt on top either! Wtf?
1. the metal ramps can be rolled.
2. It was Derek Drake.
3. He came off the dragons back endoing. Went sideways of the jump face. Metal or dirt it was no different.
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KiwiBermRailer 10/22/2022 3:48pm
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resetjet wrote:
What a circus. It occured to me that this model will never work as we want to watch live races. I am not getting up at...
What a circus. It occured to me that this model will never work as we want to watch live races. I am not getting up at 3am to watch.
Great for us in NZ to watch at a normal time! Maybe they should run the races at 7am so you can watch them at a normal time…
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MotoMan12345 wrote:
So much hate in these threads for fuck sakes. You guys need to get laid or something. Sit back relax and enjoy some off season racing...
So much hate in these threads for fuck sakes. You guys need to get laid or something. Sit back relax and enjoy some off season racing. My hell
flinttropicsMX wrote:
Problem is... this series doesn't consider themselves an off season race. And them parading this world supercross title around is very comical. Yet at the end...
Problem is... this series doesn't consider themselves an off season race. And them parading this world supercross title around is very comical. Yet at the end of the day it is just "another" off season race.
Problem is…..the world doesn’t revolve around the US. It may be your off season, but this is actually our on season for supercross.
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resetjet wrote:
What a circus. It occured to me that this model will never work as we want to watch live races. I am not getting up at...
What a circus. It occured to me that this model will never work as we want to watch live races. I am not getting up at 3am to watch.
three9zero wrote:
Try sending a kind letter to the people of Australia. Ask them to run the race at a time that is convenient for you.....Should work no?
I just want to know why they set their clock 15th ahead of ours
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KONG 2 wrote:
Man, there was so much at stake the suspense was almost unbearable!
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KONG 2 wrote:
Man, there was so much at stake the suspense was almost unbearable!
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Hegz wrote:
go away
Seriously though. I couldn’t handle the suspense of thinking kr needed to pass js for the title the whole race even though the mental math I did in my head after 12 beers told me different
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Zycki11 10/22/2022 4:36pm
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Results were honestly what you would expect them to be. Congrats to ken on earning a nice paycheck racing bud dirt bike and no doubt enjoying the time with his family.
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caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:
Ken Roczen finally has his world supercross championship he will always he called a world supercross champion now like RC Emig Tomac Webb Dungey and all...
Ken Roczen finally has his world supercross championship he will always he called a world supercross champion now like RC Emig Tomac Webb Dungey and all the other greats . Which I roll my eyes at because this was a two race series with barley and real competition


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Yeah i know, i feels like winning mxdn against a bunch of second tier mxgp riders...
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Where is SVK? a neighborhood in Tijuana?
It’s Tijuana flats. It’s a restaurant right up the road from my hote
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caviar&cigarettes338 10/22/2022 4:53pm
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MotoMan12345 wrote:
So much hate in these threads for fuck sakes. You guys need to get laid or something. Sit back relax and enjoy some off season racing...
So much hate in these threads for fuck sakes. You guys need to get laid or something. Sit back relax and enjoy some off season racing. My hell
flinttropicsMX wrote:
Problem is... this series doesn't consider themselves an off season race. And them parading this world supercross title around is very comical. Yet at the end...
Problem is... this series doesn't consider themselves an off season race. And them parading this world supercross title around is very comical. Yet at the end of the day it is just "another" off season race.
CPR wrote:
Problem is…..the world doesn’t revolve around the US. It may be your off season, but this is actually our on season for supercross.
The only reason you had a two round world sx series this year is because FIM got drop from feld and the AMA and those two promoters from Aus went to the Saudi begging for oil money to run a joke of a two round series what happens when that oil money drys up ? And USA and Mx is where the best riders have always gone to to ride even the Australia riders Reed the Lawrence brothers make millions because of the USA so you shouldn’t be hating on the series over here when it’s making your fellow country man millions of dollars and this series over here has supported a lot of your fellow country men racing careers. Saudis don’t give a dam about motocross racing or supporting the riders you can believe that .
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Watching, Pin Ball Wizard Friese, pin ball his way through the fist corner I thought of the YouTube video. Brandon’s first race. Silly Silly Silly
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flinttropicsMX wrote:
Problem is... this series doesn't consider themselves an off season race. And them parading this world supercross title around is very comical. Yet at the end...
Problem is... this series doesn't consider themselves an off season race. And them parading this world supercross title around is very comical. Yet at the end of the day it is just "another" off season race.
CPR wrote:
Problem is…..the world doesn’t revolve around the US. It may be your off season, but this is actually our on season for supercross.
caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:
The only reason you had a two round world sx series this year is because FIM got drop from feld and the AMA and those two...
The only reason you had a two round world sx series this year is because FIM got drop from feld and the AMA and those two promoters from Aus went to the Saudi begging for oil money to run a joke of a two round series what happens when that oil money drys up ? And USA and Mx is where the best riders have always gone to to ride even the Australia riders Reed the Lawrence brothers make millions because of the USA so you shouldn’t be hating on the series over here when it’s making your fellow country man millions of dollars and this series over here has supported a lot of your fellow country men racing careers. Saudis don’t give a dam about motocross racing or supporting the riders you can believe that .
Once again you missed my point; this time of the year is when our Australian SX series is held, regardless of WSX, so it is our SX on season.
You may have noticed the first round of the Aus SX series was held the night before the Melbourne WSX? No? Too busy yelling at people to get off your lawn?
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5yrs of
AMA but this was way better
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SLAPAHO 10/22/2022 6:43pm
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Idk, I thought it was pretty cool, especially since we don’t have the MEC race anymore. Yeah, it may need some work, but this round was waaay better than the last. The track was awesome as well, at least until the boards started coming through, lil sketch, but it’s not the first time we’ve seen that.
In my opinion, there was some really good racing to watch. And the whole Friese thing was there making it more watchable. And the crowd looked insane huge, I’m sure they all had a good time, at least it looked that way from the camera view that we got. My insomnia got me up at 430 pst and I watched the whole thing from the DVR. Good stuff 👍👍
Not sure what the complaining is about. No one is going to steal our SX series. 🤷‍♂️
I hope they do more races next year 👍
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aaryn #234 10/22/2022 7:36pm
10/22/2022 7:36pm
RaceFace58 wrote:
Why don’t you take a 2nd look at the metal ramp and realize it can’t be rolled. I was on them from the beginning asking why...
Why don’t you take a 2nd look at the metal ramp and realize it can’t be rolled. I was on them from the beginning asking why a metal ramp. It may have injured Derek Kelly when he hit it with a flat. My guess is they wanted to skimp on the amount of dirt it would take to build a big finish line jump. I never expected the landing mound to be all scaffolding with dirt on top either! Wtf?
They rolled it every sight lap on Friday night and Saturday night, but I do agree no one would be smart to roll it in a race unless it was 100% unavoidable, just asking to get landed on
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404namedoesnotexist@gmail.com 10/22/2022 7:57pm
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davistld01 wrote:
Yep. KR just boosted his marketable positioning for a ride next year. Like him or not...the guy knows how to sell his brand.
aeffertz wrote:
If you think this will raise his price for a ride in the US next year, I think you’d be mistaken. I don’t think this moves...
If you think this will raise his price for a ride in the US next year, I think you’d be mistaken. I don’t think this moves the needle for any factory team in the US. Roczen already has a huge name/brand and the factory teams have all but shunned this series.
RaceFace58 wrote:
Agreed. Will be interesting to see if the SX World Champion will be able to run up near the front in AMA SX or will he...
Agreed. Will be interesting to see if the SX World Champion will be able to run up near the front in AMA SX or will he struggle for 6ths again.
This whole WSX championship thing is just silly. It was two exhibition races and should have been marketed that way.

And as for Roczen, he’s a world class rider and deserves much respect, but of 6 measly motos (4 were 8 lap affairs) he won 1 and DNF 1 - and is the “champion” of two weak races full of also rans that were basically and ultimately practice runs for the race promoters.

I don’t see how this translates into teams wanting to give him a ride or added more value to his brand?

Oh yeah, Marv beat him in RB Straight Rhythm too.

I am unfortunately convinced that USA SMX series will be light years ahead of WSX in every way and will remain that way for many years. FELD is in zero danger, plus they scooped up the MX series to boot. Lol.

I love moto. And glad guys and teams got to race oversees. But trying to force this “championship” down our throats and gaslighting us into believing it was more than what we actually saw with our own eyes is a bit laughable and deservedly so.

/PEACE AND GOOD VIBES TO ALL!!!

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caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:
Ken Roczen finally has his world supercross championship he will always he called a world supercross champion now like RC Emig Tomac Webb Dungey and all...
Ken Roczen finally has his world supercross championship he will always he called a world supercross champion now like RC Emig Tomac Webb Dungey and all the other greats . Which I roll my eyes at because this was a two race series with barley and real competition


That would have been great for Ralph to say “now Roczen is a Supercross champion just like you, Jeff”
I imagine he would pause a little and say “ yes he is Ralph” because he can’t say anything negative.
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Wil Denis 10/22/2022 10:30pm
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Out of curiosity, all you guys whinging about the series because it’s labeled “world”, is that your only beef with it?
I’d bet if it was Named Motul Sx championships or something your egos wouldn’t be so bruised and you’d actually enjoy it.

How’s it any different to the local SoCal races at Glen Helen named World 2 stroke and World vet championships?
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caviar&cigarettes338 wrote:
The only reason you had a two round world sx series this year is because FIM got drop from feld and the AMA and those two...
The only reason you had a two round world sx series this year is because FIM got drop from feld and the AMA and those two promoters from Aus went to the Saudi begging for oil money to run a joke of a two round series what happens when that oil money drys up ? And USA and Mx is where the best riders have always gone to to ride even the Australia riders Reed the Lawrence brothers make millions because of the USA so you shouldn’t be hating on the series over here when it’s making your fellow country man millions of dollars and this series over here has supported a lot of your fellow country men racing careers. Saudis don’t give a dam about motocross racing or supporting the riders you can believe that .
If you think the AMA or Feld give a damn about the racers and supporting them then you must be VERY new to the sport.
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Dirt.Squirt 10/22/2022 11:11pm
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Karen Roczen finally gets his SX title!
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Magoofan 10/22/2022 11:17pm
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Wil Denis wrote:
Out of curiosity, all you guys whinging about the series because it’s labeled “world”, is that your only beef with it? I’d bet if it was...
Out of curiosity, all you guys whinging about the series because it’s labeled “world”, is that your only beef with it?
I’d bet if it was Named Motul Sx championships or something your egos wouldn’t be so bruised and you’d actually enjoy it.

How’s it any different to the local SoCal races at Glen Helen named World 2 stroke and World vet championships?

Tell us how this is a World Championship? We've got time, be sure to really think this thru and hit your points.

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Magoofan 10/22/2022 11:19pm
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KurtJ99 wrote:
That would have been great for Ralph to say “now Roczen is a Supercross champion just like you, Jeff” I imagine he would pause a little...
That would have been great for Ralph to say “now Roczen is a Supercross champion just like you, Jeff”
I imagine he would pause a little and say “ yes he is Ralph” because he can’t say anything negative.
Brutal....

....but so true.


I'd pay good money to have seen that happen.
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MotoMan12345 wrote:
So much hate in these threads for fuck sakes. You guys need to get laid or something. Sit back relax and enjoy some off season racing...
So much hate in these threads for fuck sakes. You guys need to get laid or something. Sit back relax and enjoy some off season racing. My hell
Jordan421 wrote:
Only on vital can you find fans bitching about a new series and giving us more races. The way I look at it, we only have...
Only on vital can you find fans bitching about a new series and giving us more races. The way I look at it, we only have November and December without a racing now? What other sport gives you 10 months straight of entertainment? Hopefully WSX come back next year with more races.
RaceFace58 wrote:
These guys are attacking the US racing series and the MXGP series. Their goal is to poach as many top riders from there as they can...
These guys are attacking the US racing series and the MXGP series. Their goal is to poach as many top riders from there as they can. Sorry if some of us think that isn’t a positive fir the sport. If they said they are going to run their series every year from October -December, fine have at it. Next year they are starting in a July or so against the US Nats and the MXGPs and they are going to try and throw money at whoever they can to get them to defect. Not because there was a need for a new series but because they want to make more money than they did with their current offseason races.
Sounds like MXsports needs to pay up. Can’t fault someone for wanting to make money at their job.
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Gossip is drama at MCR. Crazy if true.
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Magoofan wrote:

Tell us how this is a World Championship? We've got time, be sure to really think this thru and hit your points.

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I’m not the one getting my knickers in a knot over the Labeled name of the series, I’m just curious why there is so much hate for the series.
Granted this first season, being first year in a Covid year has been reduced to 2 rounds so I completely understand there is an asterisks next to this year, it’s the first year and everything starts somewhere. Moving forward if they get there 10 + rounds around the globe then yeh I can completely see why they label is a word series.

Even if the series clash next year and AMA loose a few riders to this series. For the most part the USA teams field the same amount of team bikes/rides on the track. So your always going to have the AMA teams full with riders, and even if you loose a tomac or a Webb here or there, you will still have your 15-20 USA guys on the gate with factory bikes, full time wage, training etc so the AMA will still always have depth. Loose a Webb etc the next guy will step up and be the guy.

The World Series is fielding guys like Seely Grant etc pulling guys out of retirement.
As a fan, I fail to see how you don’t win with the extra series.
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Magoofan wrote:

Tell us how this is a World Championship? We've got time, be sure to really think this thru and hit your points.

.....3...2...1

Go

Wil Denis wrote:
I’m not the one getting my knickers in a knot over the Labeled name of the series, I’m just curious why there is so much hate...
I’m not the one getting my knickers in a knot over the Labeled name of the series, I’m just curious why there is so much hate for the series.
Granted this first season, being first year in a Covid year has been reduced to 2 rounds so I completely understand there is an asterisks next to this year, it’s the first year and everything starts somewhere. Moving forward if they get there 10 + rounds around the globe then yeh I can completely see why they label is a word series.

Even if the series clash next year and AMA loose a few riders to this series. For the most part the USA teams field the same amount of team bikes/rides on the track. So your always going to have the AMA teams full with riders, and even if you loose a tomac or a Webb here or there, you will still have your 15-20 USA guys on the gate with factory bikes, full time wage, training etc so the AMA will still always have depth. Loose a Webb etc the next guy will step up and be the guy.

The World Series is fielding guys like Seely Grant etc pulling guys out of retirement.
As a fan, I fail to see how you don’t win with the extra series.
Well it’s quite simple; we like to complain endlessly about the status quo….until someone comes along with something different. Then we don’t like change!
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Joshracing 10/23/2022 1:24am
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Not a World anything, when the World is not participating. I have moto friends in Victoria who didn't even know it was on, until I asked them their thoughts last night about it. Won't be back. Empty stands tell you there's not the interest. Hiring that stadium would be HIGH COST!
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I love how all the Americans are complaining its not a true world championship.
Yet they call everything a world series etc.
Even the new smx. Yet all the races are in the us.
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resetjet wrote:
What a circus. It occured to me that this model will never work as we want to watch live races. I am not getting up at...
What a circus. It occured to me that this model will never work as we want to watch live races. I am not getting up at 3am to watch.
No dramas mate we will get worldsx to move the main events to 3am to suit you........flog

Welcome to the big wonderful world outside the USA. Like many others I had to get up at 2:30am to watch mxon.
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Magoofan wrote:
If it does, it will come at the expense of the Nationals first. I can't support that. I hope the whole charade fails. So far. it...
If it does, it will come at the expense of the Nationals first.

I can't support that.

I hope the whole charade fails. So far. it seems to be headed that way.
MotoMan12345 wrote:
It’s never going to take over nationals. The US teams won’t allow it. Motocross is extremely important in the states. And I think the teams know...
It’s never going to take over nationals. The US teams won’t allow it. Motocross is extremely important in the states. And I think the teams know that. Hence why we don’t see all the top dogs here racing
Magoofan wrote:
Agreed.

Which is why it's going to fail. It's not a real World championship without the best riders in the world.
On that theory is World Superbike not a proper series because it doesn't have the best riders in the world (motogp riders).

Worldsx should be embraced and looked at the same way WorldSBK and MotoGP are. This will give avenues for international riders to put Infront of the American media and teams. I can see guys showing something in worldsx and getting rides in ama supercross out of it. Same way guys come up through worldsbk and then cross over to motogp and on the other side when guys don't get rides in motogp the have another avenue to race at the highest level (Remi Gardner in 2023 going to worldsbk after not getting a motogp ride.) This is a good thing not a bad thing.
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