Cooksey interview with brennans engine builder

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Deegan would be pro by then he’s in A class for one more race then pro at iron man.
One race is all it takes.
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8/14/2022 7:45pm
Did you not watch this? The kid disgruntedly settled for riding a Star bike and a couple of motors.
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No I have not. I try to avoid Cooksey whenever possible. I figure if the Brennan kid had accepted a deal, he would have mentioned it...
No I have not. I try to avoid Cooksey whenever possible.

I figure if the Brennan kid had accepted a deal, he would have mentioned it in the interview he did. Really odd that he left this out since it’s significant.
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Well you should watch it...Cooksey did well in this interview IMO and just let the Harris talk. Right at the very start Harris was saying the...
Well you should watch it...Cooksey did well in this interview IMO and just let the Harris talk.

Right at the very start Harris was saying the reasons about there being no way in hell would he even try to reproduce parts from it and had nothing to do with it...and the way he explains time/costs...they are all pretty compelling reasons why he wouldn't be putting up money for the bike.

And the way Harris and Brennon interviewed...they were totally off script and the way they explained their version of events was pretty telling it was all based of real actual memories....unless they are both really REALLY good at lying, you can see why so many are kindof siding with the kid being shafted.
I watched the Tyler Livesay interview. I agree with you 100%.
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8/14/2022 7:49pm
Deegan would be pro by then he’s in A class for one more race then pro at iron man.
One race is all it takes.
The kid races B class Haiden is Pro Am now tell he makes enough points to race pro at iron man
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8/14/2022 7:51pm
Kid lost his sponsorship too? That's a disgrace. Some local Honda or KTM dealership should swoop in for the PR win. It's not like the kid...
Kid lost his sponsorship too? That's a disgrace.

Some local Honda or KTM dealership should swoop in for the PR win. It's not like the kid is slow if he's racing with Deegan.

Looks like the dealership is Rallye Motoplex per past instagram postings.
I know it’s not fair but I really think the kid is going have a hard time finding help for a bit . No one is going want to touch him no sponsor wants unwanted attention
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8/14/2022 7:59pm
I think a couple of things could make this right to where the smoke clears:

This has been a complete Jerry Springer Show for the sport.

1) Tim Cotter gets fired - after further review, clearly he deserves it
2) Luce gets fired - clearly he used corporate influence to change the outcome of the situation
3) Yamaha (or Star) gives Brennan 2 bikes, not 2 engines since his sponsor dropped him (not Star race bikes, but bikes - not 2 motors, but 2 bikes)
4) Matt Walker - he'll get what's coming to him eventually at some point with an attitude and mouth like that. He's going to lip off to the wrong person and that someone is going to just flat out beat his ass and that will be the end of that.

Brennan can use his $17.5K to set up those two bikes the way he wants to.
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If we consider this situation cheating does Haiden Deegan face consequences per the rule book? What's the penalty for not complying with a bike claim?
It wasn't Deegan that forced the kid to give the bikes back even the engine guy said that . It was Yamaha Matt walker and the...
It wasn't Deegan that forced the kid to give the bikes back even the engine guy said that . It was Yamaha Matt walker and the dealer sponsor was the one that finally made him do that
After hearing the engine guy interview it doesn’t sound like Deegan or Cotter are the bad guys here. It is Walker and Yamaha. That meeting withWalker and the Yamaha rep seems to be what preceded withdrawing the claim. That meeting is also where Walker threatened to beat up the engine guy with the kid sitting right there.
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wrc777 wrote:
After hearing the engine guy interview it doesn’t sound like Deegan or Cotter are the bad guys here. It is Walker and Yamaha. That meeting withWalker...
After hearing the engine guy interview it doesn’t sound like Deegan or Cotter are the bad guys here. It is Walker and Yamaha. That meeting withWalker and the Yamaha rep seems to be what preceded withdrawing the claim. That meeting is also where Walker threatened to beat up the engine guy with the kid sitting right there.
Too late. The mob already determined Deegan should get a ban and Cotter lose his job.
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wrc777 wrote:
After hearing the engine guy interview it doesn’t sound like Deegan or Cotter are the bad guys here. It is Walker and Yamaha. That meeting withWalker...
After hearing the engine guy interview it doesn’t sound like Deegan or Cotter are the bad guys here. It is Walker and Yamaha. That meeting withWalker and the Yamaha rep seems to be what preceded withdrawing the claim. That meeting is also where Walker threatened to beat up the engine guy with the kid sitting right there.
Sore Loser wrote:
Too late. The mob already determined Deegan should get a ban and Cotter lose his job.
I cannot find any reference to Deegan getting a ban, please provide the link
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wrc777 wrote:
After hearing the engine guy interview it doesn’t sound like Deegan or Cotter are the bad guys here. It is Walker and Yamaha. That meeting withWalker...
After hearing the engine guy interview it doesn’t sound like Deegan or Cotter are the bad guys here. It is Walker and Yamaha. That meeting withWalker and the Yamaha rep seems to be what preceded withdrawing the claim. That meeting is also where Walker threatened to beat up the engine guy with the kid sitting right there.
Sore Loser wrote:
Too late. The mob already determined Deegan should get a ban and Cotter lose his job.
Cotter still inserted himself where he didn't belong. He's MXSports (Promoter) not the AMA (Rules enforcer), and he knew exactly what he was doing. Just a shame Brennan didn't see it and just walk out, he had his receipt.
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Wow... sounds like a bunch of bitchy little girls! Yikes.

If you want a motor that can run with or beat the Star motor... Call Bob Wirth. (510) 487-3279. He's in Hayward Ca. He's the guy that did Stars engines Before they took it "in house". He's been at it for a long time. Various mfg's call him to help they with their programs. Kenny Roberts used his services... F1 teams have used him. He also was very involved in Race Gas development with the mfg's of those products. Chances are very high if you use race gas.. it was developed on his dyno (which is NOT a normal one. He built it). Yamaha's has used him.... All the Nascar motor shops know of him. He's a bit of a legend in motorsports racing. 2 and 4 wheel. Very nice guy.

Send him a motor.... or a head.
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Sore Loser wrote:
Too late. The mob already determined Deegan should get a ban and Cotter lose his job.
I've read a lot over the past couple days and have formed a few opinions on this subject... But honestly I just can't wait until you fuck off.
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PTshox wrote:
Wow... sounds like a bunch of bitchy little girls! Yikes. If you want a motor that can run with or beat the Star motor... Call Bob...
Wow... sounds like a bunch of bitchy little girls! Yikes.

If you want a motor that can run with or beat the Star motor... Call Bob Wirth. (510) 487-3279. He's in Hayward Ca. He's the guy that did Stars engines Before they took it "in house". He's been at it for a long time. Various mfg's call him to help they with their programs. Kenny Roberts used his services... F1 teams have used him. He also was very involved in Race Gas development with the mfg's of those products. Chances are very high if you use race gas.. it was developed on his dyno (which is NOT a normal one. He built it). Yamaha's has used him.... All the Nascar motor shops know of him. He's a bit of a legend in motorsports racing. 2 and 4 wheel. Very nice guy.

Send him a motor.... or a head.
Wait..wait.. I thought Varner had that best engines in the biz 🤔
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Kid lost his sponsorship too? That's a disgrace. Some local Honda or KTM dealership should swoop in for the PR win. It's not like the kid...
Kid lost his sponsorship too? That's a disgrace.

Some local Honda or KTM dealership should swoop in for the PR win. It's not like the kid is slow if he's racing with Deegan.

Looks like the dealership is Rallye Motoplex per past instagram postings.
This is the dealer mentioned above. Can not confirm….

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Who’s mat walker and why does her name sound familiar?
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PTshox wrote:
Wow... sounds like a bunch of bitchy little girls! Yikes. If you want a motor that can run with or beat the Star motor... Call Bob...
Wow... sounds like a bunch of bitchy little girls! Yikes.

If you want a motor that can run with or beat the Star motor... Call Bob Wirth. (510) 487-3279. He's in Hayward Ca. He's the guy that did Stars engines Before they took it "in house". He's been at it for a long time. Various mfg's call him to help they with their programs. Kenny Roberts used his services... F1 teams have used him. He also was very involved in Race Gas development with the mfg's of those products. Chances are very high if you use race gas.. it was developed on his dyno (which is NOT a normal one. He built it). Yamaha's has used him.... All the Nascar motor shops know of him. He's a bit of a legend in motorsports racing. 2 and 4 wheel. Very nice guy.

Send him a motor.... or a head.
Wade221 wrote:
Wait..wait.. I thought Varner had that best engines in the biz 🤔
Bob.. is on a little different level. IMO.
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8/14/2022 11:49pm
I wonder if the thing they were most afraid of was that the motor *did not* have any super secret, unobtanium components and engineering. Seems that would be way worse for high $$$ engine builder rep than having one of your trick motors wind up in the wild. Dry Unsure
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8/15/2022 12:15am Edited Date/Time 8/15/2022 12:21am
PTshox wrote:
Wow... sounds like a bunch of bitchy little girls! Yikes. If you want a motor that can run with or beat the Star motor... Call Bob...
Wow... sounds like a bunch of bitchy little girls! Yikes.

If you want a motor that can run with or beat the Star motor... Call Bob Wirth. (510) 487-3279. He's in Hayward Ca. He's the guy that did Stars engines Before they took it "in house". He's been at it for a long time. Various mfg's call him to help they with their programs. Kenny Roberts used his services... F1 teams have used him. He also was very involved in Race Gas development with the mfg's of those products. Chances are very high if you use race gas.. it was developed on his dyno (which is NOT a normal one. He built it). Yamaha's has used him.... All the Nascar motor shops know of him. He's a bit of a legend in motorsports racing. 2 and 4 wheel. Very nice guy.

Send him a motor.... or a head.
You are missing the point genius, this is not a debate on who builds the best motors.

The problem at hand is the axis of corruption and bullshit between the Deegan camp, the AMA, MX Sports, Matt Walker and Yamaha regarding the bike claim.

One thing I can tell you for sure:

Derek Harris deserves HUGE props for standing up for this kid, trying to help him and trying to get the truth out there regarding what happened. What they did to this kid is completely unacceptable and is a huge black eye for amateur MX racing as a whole.

It's fucking disgusting.
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8/15/2022 12:37am
I missed the part about why the kid is spilling the beans? I would assume not talking bad about anyone involved would have been part of the deal for the engines? Did someone back out of agreement? Is it because dealer dropped him.
8/15/2022 12:48am
Last 20 mins of the Unadilla pod are interesting. Deegan not knowing the rule? BS
Deegan getting Yamaha involved? BS
Bike being stored in Tim Cotters trailer? Why not an AMA trailer? BS
Letting your kid follow Brennen around in your UTV? BS
Tim Cotter needs to go. Why did he bring Brian Deegan back up to the Ama trailer? Thats not needed.
Brian your a lame ass mofo, then he throws up a video with that stupid smirk on his face talking none sense.
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PTshox wrote:
Wow... sounds like a bunch of bitchy little girls! Yikes. If you want a motor that can run with or beat the Star motor... Call Bob...
Wow... sounds like a bunch of bitchy little girls! Yikes.

If you want a motor that can run with or beat the Star motor... Call Bob Wirth. (510) 487-3279. He's in Hayward Ca. He's the guy that did Stars engines Before they took it "in house". He's been at it for a long time. Various mfg's call him to help they with their programs. Kenny Roberts used his services... F1 teams have used him. He also was very involved in Race Gas development with the mfg's of those products. Chances are very high if you use race gas.. it was developed on his dyno (which is NOT a normal one. He built it). Yamaha's has used him.... All the Nascar motor shops know of him. He's a bit of a legend in motorsports racing. 2 and 4 wheel. Very nice guy.

Send him a motor.... or a head.
You are missing the point genius, this is not a debate on who builds the best motors. The problem at hand is the axis of corruption...
You are missing the point genius, this is not a debate on who builds the best motors.

The problem at hand is the axis of corruption and bullshit between the Deegan camp, the AMA, MX Sports, Matt Walker and Yamaha regarding the bike claim.

One thing I can tell you for sure:

Derek Harris deserves HUGE props for standing up for this kid, trying to help him and trying to get the truth out there regarding what happened. What they did to this kid is completely unacceptable and is a huge black eye for amateur MX racing as a whole.

It's fucking disgusting.
Are you attempting sarcasm? It's an art... not all can practice it.

My point: Kid said he wanted to ride the bike? Right? Why? To ride a "factory bike" to see how it performs. Right? The point is such a motor can be had...Suspension tuned. $17K might be a deal for what was in/on that bike though. Looks like we'll never know though.


Now, I agree the story looks pretty ugly for the folks that pressured the kid. Will the AMA do anything about it is the question I have? It could go either way. If Yamaha put pressure... in anyway... on the dealer that's really not good. At all. And what was the Don guy from Yamaha doing in a meeting with them without the AMA etc... Smells really strange to me. Yea... it's not good.

But will anyone do anything? I see ML has some interviews coming out with the folks involved. I suspect there will be
a lot of spin on this.. PR damage control... God what a dumb mess. They should have just turned over the bike.

Btw there was this Honda factory bike claimed at Hangtown years ago. Apparently the port castings were huge compared to the production stuff of that day. But that was the works bike days..... Fewer rules.
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PTshox wrote:
Wow... sounds like a bunch of bitchy little girls! Yikes. If you want a motor that can run with or beat the Star motor... Call Bob...
Wow... sounds like a bunch of bitchy little girls! Yikes.

If you want a motor that can run with or beat the Star motor... Call Bob Wirth. (510) 487-3279. He's in Hayward Ca. He's the guy that did Stars engines Before they took it "in house". He's been at it for a long time. Various mfg's call him to help they with their programs. Kenny Roberts used his services... F1 teams have used him. He also was very involved in Race Gas development with the mfg's of those products. Chances are very high if you use race gas.. it was developed on his dyno (which is NOT a normal one. He built it). Yamaha's has used him.... All the Nascar motor shops know of him. He's a bit of a legend in motorsports racing. 2 and 4 wheel. Very nice guy.

Send him a motor.... or a head.
You are missing the point genius, this is not a debate on who builds the best motors. The problem at hand is the axis of corruption...
You are missing the point genius, this is not a debate on who builds the best motors.

The problem at hand is the axis of corruption and bullshit between the Deegan camp, the AMA, MX Sports, Matt Walker and Yamaha regarding the bike claim.

One thing I can tell you for sure:

Derek Harris deserves HUGE props for standing up for this kid, trying to help him and trying to get the truth out there regarding what happened. What they did to this kid is completely unacceptable and is a huge black eye for amateur MX racing as a whole.

It's fucking disgusting.
PTshox wrote:
Are you attempting sarcasm? It's an art... not all can practice it. My point: Kid said he wanted to ride the bike? Right? Why? To ride...
Are you attempting sarcasm? It's an art... not all can practice it.

My point: Kid said he wanted to ride the bike? Right? Why? To ride a "factory bike" to see how it performs. Right? The point is such a motor can be had...Suspension tuned. $17K might be a deal for what was in/on that bike though. Looks like we'll never know though.


Now, I agree the story looks pretty ugly for the folks that pressured the kid. Will the AMA do anything about it is the question I have? It could go either way. If Yamaha put pressure... in anyway... on the dealer that's really not good. At all. And what was the Don guy from Yamaha doing in a meeting with them without the AMA etc... Smells really strange to me. Yea... it's not good.

But will anyone do anything? I see ML has some interviews coming out with the folks involved. I suspect there will be
a lot of spin on this.. PR damage control... God what a dumb mess. They should have just turned over the bike.

Btw there was this Honda factory bike claimed at Hangtown years ago. Apparently the port castings were huge compared to the production stuff of that day. But that was the works bike days..... Fewer rules.
I think we agree for the most part but the most difficult problem to solve here is the corruption of all the parties involved and the way this was handled.

Finding someone to build a fast engine is far easier than fixing the train-wreck that is the AMA / MX Sports / OEM juggernaut that is trying to destroy this kid.

I understand where you are coming from tho...
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8/15/2022 1:11am Edited Date/Time 8/15/2022 4:12am
Hey Sore Loser….
Your first name wouldn’t happen to be Daniel would it?
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Kid lost his sponsorship too? That's a disgrace. Some local Honda or KTM dealership should swoop in for the PR win. It's not like the kid...
Kid lost his sponsorship too? That's a disgrace.

Some local Honda or KTM dealership should swoop in for the PR win. It's not like the kid is slow if he's racing with Deegan.

Looks like the dealership is Rallye Motoplex per past instagram postings.
I know it’s not fair but I really think the kid is going have a hard time finding help for a bit . No one is...
I know it’s not fair but I really think the kid is going have a hard time finding help for a bit . No one is going want to touch him no sponsor wants unwanted attention
I hope this is not the case.

I think he has handled himself with class beyond his years. As someone who employs people periodically, I was very impressed with his interview. For a 17-year-old he was quite articulate, well-spoken, no mumbling, and concise.

I hope he comes out swinging and gives the establishment a big FU.

The MX Oligopoly or as the TFS said octopus has really exposed itself this year.
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I'm certainly very curious if the AMA does anything. Or do they turn a blind eye?
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Kid lost his sponsorship too? That's a disgrace. Some local Honda or KTM dealership should swoop in for the PR win. It's not like the kid...
Kid lost his sponsorship too? That's a disgrace.

Some local Honda or KTM dealership should swoop in for the PR win. It's not like the kid is slow if he's racing with Deegan.

Looks like the dealership is Rallye Motoplex per past instagram postings.
This is the dealer mentioned above. Can not confirm…. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/08/14/564036/s1200_A2D2B9CB_5629_471A_9C11_24B1A1182C24.jpg[/img]
This is the dealer mentioned above. Can not confirm….

Yeah that’s his sponsor. He owns quite a few car dealerships as well.
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Hopefully the AMA will change this claiming rule. Making all amateur classes stock/limited would keep the cost way down and even the playing field. A stock 450 should be more than enough
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Typical MXsports AMA shit show .
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ElliotB16 wrote:
Hopefully the AMA will change this claiming rule. Making all amateur classes stock/limited would keep the cost way down and even the playing field. A stock...
Hopefully the AMA will change this claiming rule. Making all amateur classes stock/limited would keep the cost way down and even the playing field. A stock 450 should be more than enough
Why are amateur B and C riders are even riding 450s?
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ElliotB16 wrote:
Hopefully the AMA will change this claiming rule. Making all amateur classes stock/limited would keep the cost way down and even the playing field. A stock...
Hopefully the AMA will change this claiming rule. Making all amateur classes stock/limited would keep the cost way down and even the playing field. A stock 450 should be more than enough
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Why are amateur B and C riders are even riding 450s?
Why wouldn’t they?
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Seems like Brenan has big envy ! As can been seen on his social media post which totally contradict his statements. Also the engine builder went in hard created the tone. Seems he is having issues with his motors he is building. Brenan said to Yamaha they are having trouble with their bikes. Shame Jealousy makes you nasty. Haiden is a lot better rider and has a lot better sponsor and engine builder. Brenan just a sore loser looking to cause shit and he is doing exactly that.
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