Chance Hymas to Forgo Pro Debut

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Edited Date/Time 8/29/2022 12:25pm


Originally, the next generation Honda HRC rider was scheduled to race three of four of the final Nationals after his last dance at the Ranch. After a rough showing at Loretta Lynn’s, Chance Hymas has decided he will forgo his pro debut for now…we will likely see him race a full season of Supercross Futures next year, ahead of racing the full 2023 AMA Pro Motocross Championship.

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Sully 8/9/2022 8:04pm
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Well that sucks. Was he hurt coming into Loretta's, or did he just have an off week?
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LouisianaMotocross 8/9/2022 8:10pm
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Sully wrote:
Well that sucks. Was he hurt coming into Loretta's, or did he just have an off week?
From what I heard he had arm pump and bike set up issues. Went wrong direction on bike set up and it just snowballed. It happens. He will be fine.
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quadzrulebro 8/9/2022 8:16pm
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Bet they don’t have humidity like that in Idaho!
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Sully wrote:
Well that sucks. Was he hurt coming into Loretta's, or did he just have an off week?
LouisianaMotocross wrote:
From what I heard he had arm pump and bike set up issues. Went wrong direction on bike set up and it just snowballed. It happens...
From what I heard he had arm pump and bike set up issues. Went wrong direction on bike set up and it just snowballed. It happens. He will be fine.
Small rant -

Everyone in am’s dreams of being RC, but refuse to live by his bike set up rule….if it’s close, leave it alone and it’s up to the rider to take care of the rest.

All these guys “finding something” after riding well for a moto only to shit the bed because “they went the wrong direction” is becoming by far the biggest BS this sport has seen in a while.

You wanna tinker back and fourth a bit? By all means, as long as you have an “ol reliable” you can fall back on…being so lost in set up that the first factory Honda am in years ends up without a championship is just insane to me.

But hey, I’m the one on vital - I clearly couldn’t get it done either
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My biggest surprise from Loretta's. After being the second place guy last year behind Levi, I expected Chance to battle Ryder for the championships and was thinking he would win. Was really surprised with his post race interview..."I came in not really ready." I still think he has a lot of upside, and will regroup and be ready soon.
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Sully wrote:
Well that sucks. Was he hurt coming into Loretta's, or did he just have an off week?
LouisianaMotocross wrote:
From what I heard he had arm pump and bike set up issues. Went wrong direction on bike set up and it just snowballed. It happens...
From what I heard he had arm pump and bike set up issues. Went wrong direction on bike set up and it just snowballed. It happens. He will be fine.
I listened to the Pulp show too…
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Sully wrote:
Well that sucks. Was he hurt coming into Loretta's, or did he just have an off week?
LouisianaMotocross wrote:
From what I heard he had arm pump and bike set up issues. Went wrong direction on bike set up and it just snowballed. It happens...
From what I heard he had arm pump and bike set up issues. Went wrong direction on bike set up and it just snowballed. It happens. He will be fine.
"Arm pump and bike setup at lorettas" from hrc ....OK bro
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Did anyone hear Cole Martinez pissing and moaning about fucking "bike setup?" No you didnt.....did he say anything about arm pump? No.....
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quadzrulebro wrote:
Bet they don’t have humidity like that in Idaho!
Hasn't he been training in Florida full time for a little while now? Not being a dick, genuinely think I saw that somewhere, Vurb maybe?
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ProbablyDave 8/10/2022 12:05am
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Sully wrote:
Well that sucks. Was he hurt coming into Loretta's, or did he just have an off week?
LouisianaMotocross wrote:
From what I heard he had arm pump and bike set up issues. Went wrong direction on bike set up and it just snowballed. It happens...
From what I heard he had arm pump and bike set up issues. Went wrong direction on bike set up and it just snowballed. It happens. He will be fine.
Mossy940 wrote:
Small rant - Everyone in am’s dreams of being RC, but refuse to live by his bike set up rule….if it’s close, leave it alone and...
Small rant -

Everyone in am’s dreams of being RC, but refuse to live by his bike set up rule….if it’s close, leave it alone and it’s up to the rider to take care of the rest.

All these guys “finding something” after riding well for a moto only to shit the bed because “they went the wrong direction” is becoming by far the biggest BS this sport has seen in a while.

You wanna tinker back and fourth a bit? By all means, as long as you have an “ol reliable” you can fall back on…being so lost in set up that the first factory Honda am in years ends up without a championship is just insane to me.

But hey, I’m the one on vital - I clearly couldn’t get it done either
I saw this all the time back when I was racing. I swear most weekend warriors couldn't tell you if the compression is too hard or if the rebound is too fast, but they insist that bike setup is the reason they finished 12th. I also see it now with MTB. I always laugh when dudes on £4,000 mountain bikes complain about their setup. Like, the difference between you and Aaron Gwin isn't bike setup.
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dirtbikemike 8/10/2022 2:59am
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How do you end up at LLs with bike setup problems? It's a motocross track and you ride a motocross bike. Most of the so called top riders live and ride at training "facilities" year round. Your bike should be perfect. How do you get arm pump if you've been riding every day since LLs the year before? Maybe he should have been racing leading up to LLs instead of "training".
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Jeff_Crutcher 8/10/2022 3:40am
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dirtbikemike wrote:
How do you end up at LLs with bike setup problems? It's a motocross track and you ride a motocross bike. Most of the so called...
How do you end up at LLs with bike setup problems? It's a motocross track and you ride a motocross bike. Most of the so called top riders live and ride at training "facilities" year round. Your bike should be perfect. How do you get arm pump if you've been riding every day since LLs the year before? Maybe he should have been racing leading up to LLs instead of "training".
Mike the new path for pro racers is to never race. Which is great, because your guys and my guys can make a living doing local races and AX, while the children are struggling with setup.

I wonder if the show is over and this is the permanent thing now? Kids (and their parents) chasing clout at the training facility over learning how to actually race..
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So staying in amateurs is going to help how?
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I wonder if he has been nursing an injury of some description? He was non factor in all of his moto's which was really surprising to me. He seems like a good kid with a bright future, I'm sure he and the team will get it sorted.
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quadzrulebro 8/10/2022 4:27am
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Hi Side wrote:
I wonder if he has been nursing an injury of some description? He was non factor in all of his moto's which was really surprising to...
I wonder if he has been nursing an injury of some description? He was non factor in all of his moto's which was really surprising to me. He seems like a good kid with a bright future, I'm sure he and the team will get it sorted.
He is literally a factory rider racing amateur races. I have a hard time believing that his team of engineers and mechanics can’t get his factory built bike dialed in close enough to run with guys like Jayden Clough from Minnesota who I had never even heard of until this week. The bike wasn’t the issue. The pressure was. He’ll get it figured out.
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Jeff_Crutcher wrote:
Mike the new path for pro racers is to never race. Which is great, because your guys and my guys can make a living doing local...
Mike the new path for pro racers is to never race. Which is great, because your guys and my guys can make a living doing local races and AX, while the children are struggling with setup.

I wonder if the show is over and this is the permanent thing now? Kids (and their parents) chasing clout at the training facility over learning how to actually race..
You may not find him at a local fair race in Iowa, but to say Chance Hymas "never races" is wildly inaccurate. Don't believe every false narrative you read on Vital. Here's how the 6 months leading up to LL's looked for him:

Arlington SX Futures
LL Area Qualifier - Arizona
LL Area Qualifier - Utah
JS7 Freestone
Motoplayground Spring A Ding Ding
Atlanta SX Futures
Foxborough SX Futures
SLC SX Futures Final
LL Regional Qualifier - Washougal
AMA NGPC Series Utah *beat Cole Martinez
Mammoth
Red Bud Scouting Moto Combine

Maybe he went into LL's over-trained, maybe the pressure of expectations got to him mentally, maybe he has hit his ceiling and the other guys got faster, who knows? But whatever happened to him wasn't from "chasing clout at the training facility".
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Jeff_Crutcher wrote:
Mike the new path for pro racers is to never race. Which is great, because your guys and my guys can make a living doing local...
Mike the new path for pro racers is to never race. Which is great, because your guys and my guys can make a living doing local races and AX, while the children are struggling with setup.

I wonder if the show is over and this is the permanent thing now? Kids (and their parents) chasing clout at the training facility over learning how to actually race..
IMO this is why the guys are in “B” class running PRO pace and cant actually turn pro because they havent been racing.

Train to ride 3 races a year.
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creature654 8/10/2022 5:00am
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GrapeApe wrote:
You may not find him at a local fair race in Iowa, but to say Chance Hymas "never races" is wildly inaccurate. Don't believe every false...
You may not find him at a local fair race in Iowa, but to say Chance Hymas "never races" is wildly inaccurate. Don't believe every false narrative you read on Vital. Here's how the 6 months leading up to LL's looked for him:

Arlington SX Futures
LL Area Qualifier - Arizona
LL Area Qualifier - Utah
JS7 Freestone
Motoplayground Spring A Ding Ding
Atlanta SX Futures
Foxborough SX Futures
SLC SX Futures Final
LL Regional Qualifier - Washougal
AMA NGPC Series Utah *beat Cole Martinez
Mammoth
Red Bud Scouting Moto Combine

Maybe he went into LL's over-trained, maybe the pressure of expectations got to him mentally, maybe he has hit his ceiling and the other guys got faster, who knows? But whatever happened to him wasn't from "chasing clout at the training facility".
So you’re saying that he did 3 legit races this year (the 2 in texas, and mammoth), the LLR which can be weird, and a bunch of invite only races where he only does 1 real race a day….yeh I’m starting to get it when they say these guys pretty much never race
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Send him to SR Honda in January and do a season of EMX250.
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GrapeApe wrote:
You may not find him at a local fair race in Iowa, but to say Chance Hymas "never races" is wildly inaccurate. Don't believe every false...
You may not find him at a local fair race in Iowa, but to say Chance Hymas "never races" is wildly inaccurate. Don't believe every false narrative you read on Vital. Here's how the 6 months leading up to LL's looked for him:

Arlington SX Futures
LL Area Qualifier - Arizona
LL Area Qualifier - Utah
JS7 Freestone
Motoplayground Spring A Ding Ding
Atlanta SX Futures
Foxborough SX Futures
SLC SX Futures Final
LL Regional Qualifier - Washougal
AMA NGPC Series Utah *beat Cole Martinez
Mammoth
Red Bud Scouting Moto Combine

Maybe he went into LL's over-trained, maybe the pressure of expectations got to him mentally, maybe he has hit his ceiling and the other guys got faster, who knows? But whatever happened to him wasn't from "chasing clout at the training facility".
creature654 wrote:
So you’re saying that he did 3 legit races this year (the 2 in texas, and mammoth), the LLR which can be weird, and a bunch...
So you’re saying that he did 3 legit races this year (the 2 in texas, and mammoth), the LLR which can be weird, and a bunch of invite only races where he only does 1 real race a day….yeh I’m starting to get it when they say these guys pretty much never race
And supercross futures really isn't much track time. Salt Lake City futures main was 8 laps with around 50-55 second lap times.. That isn't even 8 minutes on the track "when it counts". With all 4 of the futures combined that is a total of roughly 32 minutes of racing track time.
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GrapeApe wrote:
You may not find him at a local fair race in Iowa, but to say Chance Hymas "never races" is wildly inaccurate. Don't believe every false...
You may not find him at a local fair race in Iowa, but to say Chance Hymas "never races" is wildly inaccurate. Don't believe every false narrative you read on Vital. Here's how the 6 months leading up to LL's looked for him:

Arlington SX Futures
LL Area Qualifier - Arizona
LL Area Qualifier - Utah
JS7 Freestone
Motoplayground Spring A Ding Ding
Atlanta SX Futures
Foxborough SX Futures
SLC SX Futures Final
LL Regional Qualifier - Washougal
AMA NGPC Series Utah *beat Cole Martinez
Mammoth
Red Bud Scouting Moto Combine

Maybe he went into LL's over-trained, maybe the pressure of expectations got to him mentally, maybe he has hit his ceiling and the other guys got faster, who knows? But whatever happened to him wasn't from "chasing clout at the training facility".
creature654 wrote:
So you’re saying that he did 3 legit races this year (the 2 in texas, and mammoth), the LLR which can be weird, and a bunch...
So you’re saying that he did 3 legit races this year (the 2 in texas, and mammoth), the LLR which can be weird, and a bunch of invite only races where he only does 1 real race a day….yeh I’m starting to get it when they say these guys pretty much never race
snillum wrote:
And supercross futures really isn't much track time. Salt Lake City futures main was 8 laps with around 50-55 second lap times.. That isn't even 8...
And supercross futures really isn't much track time. Salt Lake City futures main was 8 laps with around 50-55 second lap times.. That isn't even 8 minutes on the track "when it counts". With all 4 of the futures combined that is a total of roughly 32 minutes of racing track time.
EMX riders does as much racing as this in one moto.
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H.E.penyypacker432 8/10/2022 5:53am
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When hymas passed Ryder D at futures everyone in here was ready to hand him a 250 title. Kid has one bad week at Loretta’s and now he sucks according to vital.
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GrapeApe 8/10/2022 6:05am
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GrapeApe wrote:
You may not find him at a local fair race in Iowa, but to say Chance Hymas "never races" is wildly inaccurate. Don't believe every false...
You may not find him at a local fair race in Iowa, but to say Chance Hymas "never races" is wildly inaccurate. Don't believe every false narrative you read on Vital. Here's how the 6 months leading up to LL's looked for him:

Arlington SX Futures
LL Area Qualifier - Arizona
LL Area Qualifier - Utah
JS7 Freestone
Motoplayground Spring A Ding Ding
Atlanta SX Futures
Foxborough SX Futures
SLC SX Futures Final
LL Regional Qualifier - Washougal
AMA NGPC Series Utah *beat Cole Martinez
Mammoth
Red Bud Scouting Moto Combine

Maybe he went into LL's over-trained, maybe the pressure of expectations got to him mentally, maybe he has hit his ceiling and the other guys got faster, who knows? But whatever happened to him wasn't from "chasing clout at the training facility".
creature654 wrote:
So you’re saying that he did 3 legit races this year (the 2 in texas, and mammoth), the LLR which can be weird, and a bunch...
So you’re saying that he did 3 legit races this year (the 2 in texas, and mammoth), the LLR which can be weird, and a bunch of invite only races where he only does 1 real race a day….yeh I’m starting to get it when they say these guys pretty much never race
snillum wrote:
And supercross futures really isn't much track time. Salt Lake City futures main was 8 laps with around 50-55 second lap times.. That isn't even 8...
And supercross futures really isn't much track time. Salt Lake City futures main was 8 laps with around 50-55 second lap times.. That isn't even 8 minutes on the track "when it counts". With all 4 of the futures combined that is a total of roughly 32 minutes of racing track time.
Are we just going to gloss over the NGPC race he did in May, finishing second in the pro class to the defending champ? He races motocross, off-road and supercross but his problem is he doesn't race enough? Do you think Ricky Carmichael raced more than that as an amateur?

If you want to focus on the futures races, where else would a future SX racer get gate drops and track time on a real SX track? (Don't say "at a training facility")

You guys can nit-pick his races all you want, the point doesn't change that these kids aren't hiding out at a training facility avoiding actual races.
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sandman768 8/10/2022 6:10am
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Anyone who has ever raced seriously can likely relate….. work your ass off, feeling like you are ready and then not ride up to your potential….. hopefully it will make him stronger…. Sometimes when things come to easy to early, real life knocks you on your ass later on….
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H.E.penyypacker432 wrote:
When hymas passed Ryder D at futures everyone in here was ready to hand him a 250 title. Kid has one bad week at Loretta’s and...
When hymas passed Ryder D at futures everyone in here was ready to hand him a 250 title. Kid has one bad week at Loretta’s and now he sucks according to vital.
A year ago, they were saying Eli needs to retire. It's jealousy. None of the losers talking could even get a whiff of Hymas.
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H.E.penyypacker432 wrote:
When hymas passed Ryder D at futures everyone in here was ready to hand him a 250 title. Kid has one bad week at Loretta’s and...
When hymas passed Ryder D at futures everyone in here was ready to hand him a 250 title. Kid has one bad week at Loretta’s and now he sucks according to vital.
J. Sloan wrote:
A year ago, they were saying Eli needs to retire. It's jealousy. None of the losers talking could even get a whiff of Hymas.
Barcia should totally be the MXON 250 rider this year
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He has a solid contract, and a team that will stand behind him. He had a bad week. He will be fine.
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Ruts at this years LL were BRUTAL!

If a rider cant master the ruts do they blame it on the bikes setup?
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dirtbikemike wrote:
How do you end up at LLs with bike setup problems? It's a motocross track and you ride a motocross bike. Most of the so called...
How do you end up at LLs with bike setup problems? It's a motocross track and you ride a motocross bike. Most of the so called top riders live and ride at training "facilities" year round. Your bike should be perfect. How do you get arm pump if you've been riding every day since LLs the year before? Maybe he should have been racing leading up to LLs instead of "training".
Chance races 2-3x more races in a year then most amateurs. Maybe pull your head out of your ass.
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Hudd_421 8/10/2022 6:53am
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Loretta's means nothing. Chance is has been winning all over the country all year, racing WORCS races, training at 83 compound with legit guys....Think he's alright.
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