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Chris99Flannery 8/2/2022 11:58pm
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EAD Wsx. Shove your franchise model up your date.
It would’ve turned it into corporate driven cheesy garbage series. Same as F1 and MotoGP. First it’s about the circus and their ‘Save the whatever lefty issue thats in Vogue’ bullshit, second comes the actual racing. Team owners become Celebrities and riders/drivers need to cough up money for pay rides.
I like our sport still accessible to the core people. Not the rich and powerful swanning around on track/grid walks. .
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Motodave15 wrote:
Well, I willing to bet.. WSX is still going to be there more interesting draw.. Why because its going to be going on across the actual...
Well, I willing to bet.. WSX is still going to be there more interesting draw.. Why because its going to be going on across the actual world, and not just the usa.

This Supermotocross series will be won by like Dean wilson or Kyle Chiz.
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In what world does any athlete want to travel more and spend less time at home? Traveling across the globe for 3/4 of the year is...
In what world does any athlete want to travel more and spend less time at home? Traveling across the globe for 3/4 of the year is not attractive to guys who can race and make millions in the US while sleeping in their own bed during the week.

So confused at all the people hating on this move when it benefits the riders and fans alike. Unless you hate MX and want to only watch SX, then I guess I understand why you hope WSX is more of a priority than either motocross series. Different strokes for different folks but I enjoy seeing both disciplines, SX all year round would get so boring. WSX is not only going up against AMA Motocross, they are also going against the MXGP schedule as well. Hard to see them getting the best of the best from both series when their full schedule is implemented.

Competition between promoters is great though, so I'm all for people coming in and fighting for riders by opening their wallets. Only time will tell which series riders prefer if the pay is the same between the series.
Benefits AMERICAN fans.
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It seems like FELD and Davey shat their pants at the thought of riders going to WSX!

Go WSX!!
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You've read absolutely nothing about this, have you?
TBF, no.

It was my initial thought as to why this hasnt happened before now.
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You say they won’t have world calibre riders? Maybe WSX will uncover new superstars in the sport just like our Lawrence boys 🇦🇺 That are currently...
You say they won’t have world calibre riders? Maybe WSX will uncover new superstars in the sport just like our Lawrence boys 🇦🇺 That are currently the biggest stars in the sport right now and putting an ass whipping on your guys over there.
250 guys, don’t count your chickens before they hatch.
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Gungadin 8/3/2022 2:12am
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DonM wrote:
How can they coexist if they are racing on the same dates? If WSX would have done their series Oct-Dec then they could have coexisted, but...
How can they coexist if they are racing on the same dates? If WSX would have done their series Oct-Dec then they could have coexisted, but they chose to go head to head with outdoor MX and by doing so they are now in the position of only getting French and German journeymen SX racers, retired US racers and journeymen US SX racers....the stars of SX will be staying home now....
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We get it, you’re anti WSX. Your replies are super biased and prefer this super duper motorcross 3 race special. Who cares if the “stars” stay...
We get it, you’re anti WSX. Your replies are super biased and prefer this super duper motorcross 3 race special. Who cares if the “stars” stay home. Half the time the LCQs have the best racing of the night! Good racing is good racing. Do you know how boring it was to watch the stars like McGrath and RC race during the years with no competition. Yawn. Luckily we have a great SX series with new winners but that doesn’t mean big names always equate to good racing.

This just gives the opportunity for foreign fans to see the stars of yesterday and today. All the guys they see on tv they now get to see in real life. Both series are going head to head and there’s 2 clear winners. The fans and the racers. More money and more eyes.
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Nope I'm not anti-WSX I jus disagree with their strategy and if you were paying attention I predicted exactly this scenario....they could of had it all...
Nope I'm not anti-WSX I jus disagree with their strategy and if you were paying attention I predicted exactly this scenario....they could of had it all with a fall series...the fans lose with their current plan....and for your info I was at every SX race from the mid 80's to early 90's...I'm sorry that you find the best of the best racing each other boring...I guess each to there own...now you have a nice day....
Feld made a big mistake undervaluing and then relinquishing the FIA World Championship status for SX.

The WSX prime movers got their chops 30 years ago when they made a similar move on a languishing road course 'outdoors' car racing series in Australia, re branded and revitalised it and had it valued and sold in the hundred of millions within a few years.

An FIA World Championship has serious cachet and while WSX will rely on known stars initially they will develop their riders, their brand, their supporters and business value world wide if their broadcast arm is only as effective as MXGP-TV.

This just announced, obviously cobbled together US championship appendix reheat is a lot more about questions than answers at the moment and could end up doing the outdoors side of the sport more harm than good.


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Wil Denis wrote:
The super motocross name sounds like it’s out of a cheesy low budget film
At least it's not TerrificCross. Or GloriousCross Smile

MegaCross is better!
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RonSkj wrote:
Will it be live on MavTv ?
There is a truck with RacerTV on it here at Lorettas. Perhaps that will figure into the new series..?
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Rosso391 8/3/2022 5:38am
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Tell them to change that god awful name. While also stop changing the series. AMA shouldn't be worrying about WSX. Everyone in the sport of supercross knows where to go to race Supercross' Best riders, in America. WSX tracks will be a joke. Going to be lame and one lined, just they always have.
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Rosso391 8/3/2022 5:42am
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All MX Sports and Feld have to do is PAY OUT BETTER PURSES. That's all the worry is about. Money talks, and for a sport that's been around for 50 years...They are overdue for paying out big purses.
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dontdrinkandpost wrote:
The image showing the great lengths they are going to to find the supermotocross world champion….. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/08/02/562451/s1200_777DDFD8_8592_48F3_9036_0C7ABCCC88E3.jpg[/img]
The image showing the great lengths they are going to to find the supermotocross world champion…..

The 250 championship next year will be decided by riders from France, Japan, Australia, and USA. There will also be competitors from South Africa and South America. Racing in Dubai or Jakarta wouldn't make this any more or less a world championship.
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CPR wrote:
But how does this actually grow the sport? It appears to be an all out effort to pull things in tighter and protect Feld and MX...
But how does this actually grow the sport?
It appears to be an all out effort to pull things in tighter and protect Feld and MX Sports assets.

There was an opportunity here to actually grow the sport with quality racing across the globe and seperate series that could have coexisted with minimal cooperation and effort by the various promoters. But I guess greed and my series is better than your series wins out yet again.

At least WSX scaring the American series into producing better purses and a decent combined streaming service is a positive.
DonM wrote:
How can they coexist if they are racing on the same dates? If WSX would have done their series Oct-Dec then they could have coexisted, but...
How can they coexist if they are racing on the same dates? If WSX would have done their series Oct-Dec then they could have coexisted, but they chose to go head to head with outdoor MX and by doing so they are now in the position of only getting French and German journeymen SX racers, retired US racers and journeymen US SX racers....the stars of SX will be staying home now....
DG268 wrote:
You say they won’t have world calibre riders? Maybe WSX will uncover new superstars in the sport just like our Lawrence boys 🇦🇺 That are currently...
You say they won’t have world calibre riders? Maybe WSX will uncover new superstars in the sport just like our Lawrence boys 🇦🇺 That are currently the biggest stars in the sport right now and putting an ass whipping on your guys over there.
..and what did WSX have to do with "discovering" the Lawrence boys? And what series will they be racing next year?

And hell yeah we're lucky to have them here and watch them kick ass...just as we are to have Shimoda, Ferrandis, Roczen, Reed, Musquin, Lopes, Langston, Fonseca, JMB, Tyla, Townley, Pourcel, Swanny, Byrne and countless others over the years. It's not about one series owning another, it's about opportunity and choice. Most of those listed gave up nearly everything to come here and pursue their dreams. I have huge respect for that. Holding a rider's choice of where to go make a living against the organizations that make it possible in the first place seems a bit misguided. Ask "your" Lawrence bros if they are excited about the new changes.
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Richy wrote:
Super Cowboy Hot Dog Rocketship American SuperMotocross Number One... Kind of funny to see the effort they could have put in, but wouldn't until WSX spooked...
Super Cowboy Hot Dog Rocketship American SuperMotocross Number One...

Kind of funny to see the effort they could have put in, but wouldn't until WSX spooked them.

I may have missed it, does this have any effect (for the better, hopefully) on payouts for privateers / guys outside the top 10?

Also disappointed at decreasing outdoors, but I'd far sooner see this change than lose the outdoors as we know it all together after an SX Vs WSX debacle, as the Nationals is still my personal favourite racing by a long shot.
Markee wrote:

"Super Cowboy Hot Dog Rocketship American SuperMotocross Number One.."

LMAO!!! Thank you, that made my day
I died.



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So many people confuse a World Championship with a World Tour. I would say there’s a larger geographical region of the world represented in AMA Supercross than any other dirt bike racing series. You have people from all over the world competing. That is a World Championship but, no, it isn’t a World Tour.
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Ya’ll ever heard of the World Series?
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Ya’ll ever heard of the World Series?
World Vet Nationals 😂😂😂
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731chopper wrote:
So many people confuse a World Championship with a World Tour. I would say there’s a larger geographical region of the world represented in AMA Supercross...
So many people confuse a World Championship with a World Tour. I would say there’s a larger geographical region of the world represented in AMA Supercross than any other dirt bike racing series. You have people from all over the world competing. That is a World Championship but, no, it isn’t a World Tour.
Well it needs to be a world tour then as far as im concerned.. and i'm american.

We tout were the best, were the best.. but never fucking leave home and prove it in other locations.

(Nor has a promoter done it, and don't give me those bullshit canada rounds the fim tried to stick on)
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There may actually some legal issues with using world championship label with "motocross" and "supercross" given the FIM's rights, at least there used to be. It was an issue that came up with the event that became the "World Cup" at Glen Helen in 02 when the Comp Park MXdN failed. So maybe cut a little slack on the name.


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dontdrinkandpost 8/3/2022 1:15pm
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dontdrinkandpost wrote:
The image showing the great lengths they are going to to find the supermotocross world champion….. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/08/02/562451/s1200_777DDFD8_8592_48F3_9036_0C7ABCCC88E3.jpg[/img]
The image showing the great lengths they are going to to find the supermotocross world champion…..

GrapeApe wrote:
The 250 championship next year will be decided by riders from France, Japan, Australia, and USA. There will also be competitors from South Africa and South...
The 250 championship next year will be decided by riders from France, Japan, Australia, and USA. There will also be competitors from South Africa and South America. Racing in Dubai or Jakarta wouldn't make this any more or less a world championship.
I have spent a substantial amount of time in the USA, and unfortunately, a lot of Americans (not all) have their head that far up their own ass, that they believe a world championship series should be held in one country.
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dontdrinkandpost wrote:
The image showing the great lengths they are going to to find the supermotocross world champion….. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/08/02/562451/s1200_777DDFD8_8592_48F3_9036_0C7ABCCC88E3.jpg[/img]
The image showing the great lengths they are going to to find the supermotocross world champion…..

GrapeApe wrote:
The 250 championship next year will be decided by riders from France, Japan, Australia, and USA. There will also be competitors from South Africa and South...
The 250 championship next year will be decided by riders from France, Japan, Australia, and USA. There will also be competitors from South Africa and South America. Racing in Dubai or Jakarta wouldn't make this any more or less a world championship.
dontdrinkandpost wrote:
I have spent a substantial amount of time in the USA, and unfortunately, a lot of Americans (not all) have their head that far up their...
I have spent a substantial amount of time in the USA, and unfortunately, a lot of Americans (not all) have their head that far up their own ass, that they believe a world championship series should be held in one country.
And then there are those of us that believe a true world championship has the majority of the best of the best competing in it...
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Laughing at the people who think this is going to keep Tomac out there racing.
I hope he's saying to himself, "holy shit I'm getting out of this just in the nick of time".
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How is this bad? Some of you sound like a bunch of girls
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lostboy819 8/3/2022 4:19pm
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Laughing at the people who think this is going to keep Tomac out there racing. I hope he's saying to himself, "holy shit I'm getting out...
Laughing at the people who think this is going to keep Tomac out there racing.
I hope he's saying to himself, "holy shit I'm getting out of this just in the nick of time".
The whole supermotocross deal will last as long as it takes to squash the WSX completely and then it will go away. I am sure the American riders and the transplanted riders from around the globe who came to race here dont want to be flying all over the world for WSX and would much rather race the three rounds in the US. Cool I wanted to WSX to be a hit just to get the MXGP riders a chance to ride some SX and maybe come here to run the whole series.
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Supermotocross was the name of the Montreal Olympic stadium annual event from 1977 to 2012
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lostboy819 8/3/2022 4:22pm
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DonM wrote:
How can they coexist if they are racing on the same dates? If WSX would have done their series Oct-Dec then they could have coexisted, but...
How can they coexist if they are racing on the same dates? If WSX would have done their series Oct-Dec then they could have coexisted, but they chose to go head to head with outdoor MX and by doing so they are now in the position of only getting French and German journeymen SX racers, retired US racers and journeymen US SX racers....the stars of SX will be staying home now....
DG268 wrote:
You say they won’t have world calibre riders? Maybe WSX will uncover new superstars in the sport just like our Lawrence boys 🇦🇺 That are currently...
You say they won’t have world calibre riders? Maybe WSX will uncover new superstars in the sport just like our Lawrence boys 🇦🇺 That are currently the biggest stars in the sport right now and putting an ass whipping on your guys over there.
tingo wrote:
..and what did WSX have to do with "discovering" the Lawrence boys? And what series will they be racing next year? And hell yeah we're lucky...
..and what did WSX have to do with "discovering" the Lawrence boys? And what series will they be racing next year?

And hell yeah we're lucky to have them here and watch them kick ass...just as we are to have Shimoda, Ferrandis, Roczen, Reed, Musquin, Lopes, Langston, Fonseca, JMB, Tyla, Townley, Pourcel, Swanny, Byrne and countless others over the years. It's not about one series owning another, it's about opportunity and choice. Most of those listed gave up nearly everything to come here and pursue their dreams. I have huge respect for that. Holding a rider's choice of where to go make a living against the organizations that make it possible in the first place seems a bit misguided. Ask "your" Lawrence bros if they are excited about the new changes.
Yep and they all come here for a reason. Cool
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Joey_Bridges wrote:
Laughing at the people who think this is going to keep Tomac out there racing. I hope he's saying to himself, "holy shit I'm getting out...
Laughing at the people who think this is going to keep Tomac out there racing.
I hope he's saying to himself, "holy shit I'm getting out of this just in the nick of time".
lostboy819 wrote:
The whole supermotocross deal will last as long as it takes to squash the WSX completely and then it will go away. I am sure the...
The whole supermotocross deal will last as long as it takes to squash the WSX completely and then it will go away. I am sure the American riders and the transplanted riders from around the globe who came to race here dont want to be flying all over the world for WSX and would much rather race the three rounds in the US. Cool I wanted to WSX to be a hit just to get the MXGP riders a chance to ride some SX and maybe come here to run the whole series.
But then WSX went and scheduled their season right in the middle of the MXGP season....
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dontdrinkandpost 8/3/2022 9:40pm
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GrapeApe wrote:
The 250 championship next year will be decided by riders from France, Japan, Australia, and USA. There will also be competitors from South Africa and South...
The 250 championship next year will be decided by riders from France, Japan, Australia, and USA. There will also be competitors from South Africa and South America. Racing in Dubai or Jakarta wouldn't make this any more or less a world championship.
dontdrinkandpost wrote:
I have spent a substantial amount of time in the USA, and unfortunately, a lot of Americans (not all) have their head that far up their...
I have spent a substantial amount of time in the USA, and unfortunately, a lot of Americans (not all) have their head that far up their own ass, that they believe a world championship series should be held in one country.
DonM wrote:
And then there are those of us that believe a true world championship has the majority of the best of the best competing in it...
Exactly my point, that's why holding it all in one country won't allow that to happen, as not everyone in the world is American.....
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dontdrinkandpost wrote:
I have spent a substantial amount of time in the USA, and unfortunately, a lot of Americans (not all) have their head that far up their...
I have spent a substantial amount of time in the USA, and unfortunately, a lot of Americans (not all) have their head that far up their own ass, that they believe a world championship series should be held in one country.
DonM wrote:
And then there are those of us that believe a true world championship has the majority of the best of the best competing in it...
dontdrinkandpost wrote:
Exactly my point, that's why holding it all in one country won't allow that to happen, as not everyone in the world is American.....
Yeah.....ok....must be only Americans racing in America....so I get it races with midlevel and retired racers (mostly American) traveling the world is worthy of world championship status but the best racers in the world (from all over the world) competing in one country are not worthy of that status because they don't leave the country.....so its all about where you go and not who you race or how good you are....got it....
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dontdrinkandpost 8/3/2022 9:56pm
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DonM wrote:
And then there are those of us that believe a true world championship has the majority of the best of the best competing in it...
dontdrinkandpost wrote:
Exactly my point, that's why holding it all in one country won't allow that to happen, as not everyone in the world is American.....
DonM wrote:
Yeah.....ok....must be only Americans racing in America....so I get it races with midlevel and retired racers (mostly American) traveling the world is worthy of world championship...
Yeah.....ok....must be only Americans racing in America....so I get it races with midlevel and retired racers (mostly American) traveling the world is worthy of world championship status but the best racers in the world (from all over the world) competing in one country are not worthy of that status because they don't leave the country.....so its all about where you go and not who you race or how good you are....got it....
When was the last time a team with mostly USA-based riders won the MXDN? It's a big world out there, you should have a look around.
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Gungadin 8/4/2022 12:53am
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DonM wrote:
But then WSX went and scheduled their season right in the middle of the MXGP season....
Ya, so they did. WSX are not sentimental navel gazers: the principals are hard arses.

Presently the name riders are AMA/Feld allied. That will change because WSX are looking up the track years ahead.

WSX teams will bring on and develop riders for their series who have no MXGP or AMA connection.
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DonM wrote:
And then there are those of us that believe a true world championship has the majority of the best of the best competing in it...
dontdrinkandpost wrote:
Exactly my point, that's why holding it all in one country won't allow that to happen, as not everyone in the world is American.....
DonM wrote:
Yeah.....ok....must be only Americans racing in America....so I get it races with midlevel and retired racers (mostly American) traveling the world is worthy of world championship...
Yeah.....ok....must be only Americans racing in America....so I get it races with midlevel and retired racers (mostly American) traveling the world is worthy of world championship status but the best racers in the world (from all over the world) competing in one country are not worthy of that status because they don't leave the country.....so its all about where you go and not who you race or how good you are....got it....
So you honestly think it’s legitimate to have a world championship title that only riders from a single national championship can enter?
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