"you can literally ride it like a 4-sroke".
All the more reason to bring back 2-strokes (FI) to racing. Lets dump the expensive, complicated and over-powered...
"you can literally ride it like a 4-sroke".
All the more reason to bring back 2-strokes (FI) to racing. Lets dump the expensive, complicated and over-powered 4-strokes.....
Sort of off-topic, but did anyone see the video clips of Chad, Zach Osborne and Josh Grant this past weekend? I was shocked how fast Chad looked. All 3 of them were really ripping.
"you can literally ride it like a 4-sroke".
All the more reason to bring back 2-strokes (FI) to racing. Lets dump the expensive, complicated and over-powered...
"you can literally ride it like a 4-sroke".
All the more reason to bring back 2-strokes (FI) to racing. Lets dump the expensive, complicated and over-powered 4-strokes.....
Man...that sound is beautiful.
Make racing great again.
How sure are you that a 2023 300SX is
A: Cheap
B: simple
C: ‘Under’powered
"you can literally ride it like a 4-sroke".
All the more reason to bring back 2-strokes (FI) to racing. Lets dump the expensive, complicated and over-powered...
"you can literally ride it like a 4-sroke".
All the more reason to bring back 2-strokes (FI) to racing. Lets dump the expensive, complicated and over-powered 4-strokes.....
How sure are you that a 2023 300SX is
A: Cheap
B: simple
C: ‘Under’powered
?
Haha, exactly what I thought when I read the comment.
How is a FI, electric start, electronic power valve two stroke any less complicated or less expensive than a fourstroke (RRP of the 300 is 10% lower)?
The cool thing about the 300 is that it’s a frikkin awesome bike which sounds great!
Anybody else notice how much he's sitting down? It seems so weird now w the new style of standing 98% of the time.
I just watched a video from 2015 Minneapolis sx of Kenny and Dunge battling and I was blown away how much Ryan was sitting down and HAULING. It seemed like he’s was sitting 80% of his lap. Wild how much we never see that anymore.
Haha, exactly what I thought when I read the comment.
How is a FI, electric start, electronic power valve two stroke any less complicated or less...
Haha, exactly what I thought when I read the comment.
How is a FI, electric start, electronic power valve two stroke any less complicated or less expensive than a fourstroke (RRP of the 300 is 10% lower)?
The cool thing about the 300 is that it’s a frikkin awesome bike which sounds great!
Four strokes have FI, electric start.
Instead of a relatively simple power valve system, they have a cam, cam chain, valves, and associated valve gear (finger followers, springs etc).
The new two strokes are less minimalist than in days gone by (like everything), but still less moving parts than a 4T, and less chance of an uneconomic blow up/repair.
Really it’s all semantics.
If you like 2 strokes, they are getting better and better.
I never knew I needed electric start on a 300 2T till the first time I hit the button.
Should be able to tune it with your phone, instead of the black art of “brass swapping”
I don't mind working on four strokes at all, or with FI, it was my bread and butter for years. That said, I'd never argue that a 2 Stroke wasn't simpler and also cheaper if it went tits up, even with FI and an electric starter and power valve in the mix.
Still like the idea of these but a bit too much bike for me I reckon, will be an awesome pick for a lot of guys.
Haha, exactly what I thought when I read the comment.
How is a FI, electric start, electronic power valve two stroke any less complicated or less...
Haha, exactly what I thought when I read the comment.
How is a FI, electric start, electronic power valve two stroke any less complicated or less expensive than a fourstroke (RRP of the 300 is 10% lower)?
The cool thing about the 300 is that it’s a frikkin awesome bike which sounds great!
Four strokes have FI, electric start.
Instead of a relatively simple power valve system, they have a cam, cam chain, valves, and associated valve gear (finger...
Four strokes have FI, electric start.
Instead of a relatively simple power valve system, they have a cam, cam chain, valves, and associated valve gear (finger followers, springs etc).
The new two strokes are less minimalist than in days gone by (like everything), but still less moving parts than a 4T, and less chance of an uneconomic blow up/repair.
Really it’s all semantics.
If you like 2 strokes, they are getting better and better.
I never knew I needed electric start on a 300 2T till the first time I hit the button.
Should be able to tune it with your phone, instead of the black art of “brass swapping”
Thank you KTM
I don’t know the design of the electronic PV looks like but the old mechanical ones involved a lot of parts. The old 250SX engine has the same amount of parts as the SXF250 btw.
I get it, twostroke parts and rebuilding an engine are cheaper, but the argument that a two stroke is by definition cheaper and easier to maintain than a fourstroke just isn’t valid anymore today imho (I had both for years).
Fourstrokes, especially 450s, are super reliable today. Change the oil and the filter every 5 hours and don’t worry about the next 100.
The twostrokes I had needed twice the amount of fuel and airfilters, always had a dinged up pipe and constant fiddling with the carb. That’s why I never recommend a twostroke to anybody entering the sport.
The AMA needs to get their head on straight and allow a 300 to compete with 450's.
When Doug Henry raced a 400 in `98 and Lance Smail raced a 540, they were both one of a kind bikes at the time. The 300 kTM has been around and is a proven and popular bike. There is no good reason not to allow the 300 to compete against the 4's.
The AMA needs to get their head on straight and allow a 300 to compete with 450's.
When Doug Henry raced a 400 in `98 and...
The AMA needs to get their head on straight and allow a 300 to compete with 450's.
When Doug Henry raced a 400 in `98 and Lance Smail raced a 540, they were both one of a kind bikes at the time. The 300 kTM has been around and is a proven and popular bike. There is no good reason not to allow the 300 to compete against the 4's.
The manufacturers are not ready yet. Once they slap enough tech on there and are a little closer to the repair costs of the 4 stroke, the manufacturers will let them loose again.
Haha, exactly what I thought when I read the comment.
How is a FI, electric start, electronic power valve two stroke any less complicated or less...
Haha, exactly what I thought when I read the comment.
How is a FI, electric start, electronic power valve two stroke any less complicated or less expensive than a fourstroke (RRP of the 300 is 10% lower)?
The cool thing about the 300 is that it’s a frikkin awesome bike which sounds great!
Four strokes have FI, electric start.
Instead of a relatively simple power valve system, they have a cam, cam chain, valves, and associated valve gear (finger...
Four strokes have FI, electric start.
Instead of a relatively simple power valve system, they have a cam, cam chain, valves, and associated valve gear (finger followers, springs etc).
The new two strokes are less minimalist than in days gone by (like everything), but still less moving parts than a 4T, and less chance of an uneconomic blow up/repair.
Really it’s all semantics.
If you like 2 strokes, they are getting better and better.
I never knew I needed electric start on a 300 2T till the first time I hit the button.
Should be able to tune it with your phone, instead of the black art of “brass swapping”
I don’t know the design of the electronic PV looks like but the old mechanical ones involved a lot of parts. The old 250SX engine has...
I don’t know the design of the electronic PV looks like but the old mechanical ones involved a lot of parts. The old 250SX engine has the same amount of parts as the SXF250 btw.
I get it, twostroke parts and rebuilding an engine are cheaper, but the argument that a two stroke is by definition cheaper and easier to maintain than a fourstroke just isn’t valid anymore today imho (I had both for years).
Fourstrokes, especially 450s, are super reliable today. Change the oil and the filter every 5 hours and don’t worry about the next 100.
The twostrokes I had needed twice the amount of fuel and airfilters, always had a dinged up pipe and constant fiddling with the carb. That’s why I never recommend a twostroke to anybody entering the sport.
Must be pretty lonely out there on that edge or haven't you noticed you're the only spewing that bs.
Four strokes have FI, electric start.
Instead of a relatively simple power valve system, they have a cam, cam chain, valves, and associated valve gear (finger...
Four strokes have FI, electric start.
Instead of a relatively simple power valve system, they have a cam, cam chain, valves, and associated valve gear (finger followers, springs etc).
The new two strokes are less minimalist than in days gone by (like everything), but still less moving parts than a 4T, and less chance of an uneconomic blow up/repair.
Really it’s all semantics.
If you like 2 strokes, they are getting better and better.
I never knew I needed electric start on a 300 2T till the first time I hit the button.
Should be able to tune it with your phone, instead of the black art of “brass swapping”
I don’t know the design of the electronic PV looks like but the old mechanical ones involved a lot of parts. The old 250SX engine has...
I don’t know the design of the electronic PV looks like but the old mechanical ones involved a lot of parts. The old 250SX engine has the same amount of parts as the SXF250 btw.
I get it, twostroke parts and rebuilding an engine are cheaper, but the argument that a two stroke is by definition cheaper and easier to maintain than a fourstroke just isn’t valid anymore today imho (I had both for years).
Fourstrokes, especially 450s, are super reliable today. Change the oil and the filter every 5 hours and don’t worry about the next 100.
The twostrokes I had needed twice the amount of fuel and airfilters, always had a dinged up pipe and constant fiddling with the carb. That’s why I never recommend a twostroke to anybody entering the sport.
Must be pretty lonely out there on that edge or haven't you noticed you're the only spewing that bs.
After owning two 125/150s, two 250fs, a 450 and after putting at least 50 hours on each of them, I think I formed my opinion on a pretty solid base.
At least it’s a much more solid base than: „twostrokes are great and fourstrokes suck“.
I don’t know the design of the electronic PV looks like but the old mechanical ones involved a lot of parts. The old 250SX engine has...
I don’t know the design of the electronic PV looks like but the old mechanical ones involved a lot of parts. The old 250SX engine has the same amount of parts as the SXF250 btw.
I get it, twostroke parts and rebuilding an engine are cheaper, but the argument that a two stroke is by definition cheaper and easier to maintain than a fourstroke just isn’t valid anymore today imho (I had both for years).
Fourstrokes, especially 450s, are super reliable today. Change the oil and the filter every 5 hours and don’t worry about the next 100.
The twostrokes I had needed twice the amount of fuel and airfilters, always had a dinged up pipe and constant fiddling with the carb. That’s why I never recommend a twostroke to anybody entering the sport.
After owning two 125/150s, two 250fs, a 450 and after putting at least 50 hours on each of them, I think I formed my opinion on...
After owning two 125/150s, two 250fs, a 450 and after putting at least 50 hours on each of them, I think I formed my opinion on a pretty solid base.
At least it’s a much more solid base than: „twostrokes are great and fourstrokes suck“.
How many of those 4 strokes have you done engine rebuilds on? Or do you just toss them around 100 hrs and buy new then proceed to tell everyone how reliable they are.
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All the more reason to bring back 2-strokes (FI) to racing. Lets dump the expensive, complicated and over-powered 4-strokes.....
Man...that sound is beautiful.
Make racing great again.
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I like the part at 2m 47s where he lets out a sigh trying to figure out how to explain the power.
A: Cheap
B: simple
C: ‘Under’powered
?
How is a FI, electric start, electronic power valve two stroke any less complicated or less expensive than a fourstroke (RRP of the 300 is 10% lower)?
The cool thing about the 300 is that it’s a frikkin awesome bike which sounds great!
See who has it.
Instead of a relatively simple power valve system, they have a cam, cam chain, valves, and associated valve gear (finger followers, springs etc).
The new two strokes are less minimalist than in days gone by (like everything), but still less moving parts than a 4T, and less chance of an uneconomic blow up/repair.
Really it’s all semantics.
If you like 2 strokes, they are getting better and better.
I never knew I needed electric start on a 300 2T till the first time I hit the button.
Should be able to tune it with your phone, instead of the black art of “brass swapping”
Thank you KTM
Pit Row
Still like the idea of these but a bit too much bike for me I reckon, will be an awesome pick for a lot of guys.
I get it, twostroke parts and rebuilding an engine are cheaper, but the argument that a two stroke is by definition cheaper and easier to maintain than a fourstroke just isn’t valid anymore today imho (I had both for years).
Fourstrokes, especially 450s, are super reliable today. Change the oil and the filter every 5 hours and don’t worry about the next 100.
The twostrokes I had needed twice the amount of fuel and airfilters, always had a dinged up pipe and constant fiddling with the carb. That’s why I never recommend a twostroke to anybody entering the sport.
When Doug Henry raced a 400 in `98 and Lance Smail raced a 540, they were both one of a kind bikes at the time. The 300 kTM has been around and is a proven and popular bike. There is no good reason not to allow the 300 to compete against the 4's.
Mr. Honda and others disagree.
At least it’s a much more solid base than: „twostrokes are great and fourstrokes suck“.
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