Lawsuit against feld from Brian Moreau

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7/7/2022 7:34am
Was he wearing all the protective gear he could of? Chest pro, neck brace? If not why? Saying he was injuried from medics is like saying the person who was ejected from the car in a crash for not wearing a seatbelt was injuried further (although it’s law in many states, while chest pro/neck brace aren’t) could have prevented the initial injury or at least lessened.

It’s a crap shoot and nothing more than the insurance company looking to get money back.
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I feel strongly enough about this that it actually took me from a Vital-luker, and made me create an account. I had a bad spinal injury...
I feel strongly enough about this that it actually took me from a Vital-luker, and made me create an account.

I had a bad spinal injury a few years back. While all SCIs are different… one thing I was told after my wreck was that the medics careful steps in getting me from the carnage to the flight for life chopper not only helped keep the injury severity stable, it could have saved my life. (Along with the fact that I had a flight for life instead of a bumpy ride down a mountain in an ambulance)

Now you hear a bunch of different things in regards to post-injury-trauma. But when I look at it from a common sense driven approach, in my opinion, it does matter how you are handled after. Unless the chord is fully severed, it’s usually the pieces of broken vertebrae damaging the chord (creating the paralysis). The more moving and shaking that’s done, the more likely of the chord getting further damaged.

Seeing the way Brian was moved would be terrible care even if he just had a broken leg/arm/wrist/collarbone/anything… but when you are dealing with the unknowns of a possible SCI, you don’t take the gambles that the medic crew did.
Followed your progress on IG back when your accident happened, hope you’re doing well these days.
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7/7/2022 7:44am
Premix wrote:
Was he wearing all the protective gear he could of? Chest pro, neck brace? If not why? Saying he was injuried from medics is like saying...
Was he wearing all the protective gear he could of? Chest pro, neck brace? If not why? Saying he was injuried from medics is like saying the person who was ejected from the car in a crash for not wearing a seatbelt was injuried further (although it’s law in many states, while chest pro/neck brace aren’t) could have prevented the initial injury or at least lessened.

It’s a crap shoot and nothing more than the insurance company looking to get money back.
Wow!! I can't believe I just read this. You earned my downvote for transparency.
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Ahhhh it's been awhile since we had a gathering of all the "Esquires" on Vital.
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Was he wearing all the protective gear he could of? Chest pro, neck brace? If not why? Saying he was injuried from medics is like saying...
Was he wearing all the protective gear he could of? Chest pro, neck brace? If not why? Saying he was injuried from medics is like saying the person who was ejected from the car in a crash for not wearing a seatbelt was injuried further (although it’s law in many states, while chest pro/neck brace aren’t) could have prevented the initial injury or at least lessened.

It’s a crap shoot and nothing more than the insurance company looking to get money back.
I hope he wins.
Kid got stuck with a couple cowboys as medics.
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7/7/2022 8:19am Edited Date/Time 7/7/2022 8:27am
It doesn't require concrete proof that they caused [i]a specific[/i] injury by a specific motion. It is a negligence suit. The legal burden is: [i]"lack of...
It doesn't require concrete proof that they caused a specific injury by a specific motion.

It is a negligence suit. The legal burden is: "lack of any care or an extreme departure from what a reasonably careful person would do in the same situation"
Having a medical license moves you above being a "reasonable person". You now have to follow established standards of care. I never saw what they did in any literature or continuing education or basic training. I spent 30 years in fire/EMS and did instruction and training.
They may take a beating from just from the optics of this case.
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I will always find this rubbish. This was a sport you knew inherently had large risks and CHOSE to do. To turn around and sue after...
I will always find this rubbish. This was a sport you knew inherently had large risks and CHOSE to do. To turn around and sue after things didn’t work out well I personally feel is a chicken shit low class move
FELD SX is the big time, it ain't Chicken Licks raceway. They should be held to a higher standard.
I understand that, unfortunately it doesn't mean a lawsuit should be the option moving forward. If a guy is hurt, he tells them he is hurt and to take caution. He knew right away things were serious, it is his responsibility if conscious to alert medics
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TeamGreen wrote:
Motocross (or Supercross, in this case) is dangerous as FU{<. We do it anyway. We even sign releases acknowledging these facts. Then, shit goes sideways. In...
Motocross (or Supercross, in this case) is dangerous as FU{<.
We do it anyway.
We even sign releases acknowledging these facts.

Then, shit goes sideways. In Brian’s case…REAL sideways.

While I COMPLETELY disagree with the whole lawsuit, I have to look at this from Brian’s position and when I do…

I almost kinda “get it”.

But, at the end of the day…

No one but Brian is responsible for being out there on the track.

Sad; but, true.
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Apologies TeamGreen I replied earlier but want to reply again and I'm not trying to pile on as generally your posts are great...there's just one sentence...
Apologies TeamGreen I replied earlier but want to reply again and I'm not trying to pile on as generally your posts are great...there's just one sentence that stood out.

With respect...regarding it being Brian being responsible for being on the track...I agree that it was Brian who was responsible for being out there on the track...that's a given.

But surely the responsibility for him leaving the track was in the hands of the medical crew as he was not able to do so...and the medical crew chose to remove Brian from the track in a questionable manner.

It's a shitty situation either side of the fence but hoping lessons can be learned...the pics Mav posted aren't great.
No worries. Hell, I actually like the dialogue and perspective that’s being shared in here.

I remember seeing the release and browsing it a few years ago & it had a pretty broad “non-liable” set of clauses.

As others are pointing out/arguing “for” provisions of gross negligence? I’m guessing certain states (like California) provide for “you can’t sign away your rights”. If I had to guess, that’s where a door could be opened for this suit.

Still, when I think about the clauses in that release? They’ve got all sorts of language to get around as much responsibility as possible.

Like everyone-else, I’m dumbfounded that they didn’t put him on a back-board as I’ve seen them do on so many other occasions. That, too, will be part of the argument supporting negligence: they -have- used the backboard on other riders that they’d suspected of having neck or back injuries.
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Just to add clarity, I really want the best for Brian and agree that if he did tell the alpinestar medical crew that he couldn't move or had tingling etc etc then they should be held liable. If he did not speak up in this situation then they are not the wiser. I have a little insight into these situations so I have a little bit different outlook perhaps
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7/7/2022 8:31am Edited Date/Time 7/7/2022 8:32am
Zycki11 wrote:
I understand that, unfortunately it doesn't mean a lawsuit should be the option moving forward. If a guy is hurt, he tells them he is hurt...
I understand that, unfortunately it doesn't mean a lawsuit should be the option moving forward. If a guy is hurt, he tells them he is hurt and to take caution. He knew right away things were serious, it is his responsibility if conscious to alert medics
Considering they put a neck collar on him, and they knew they’d need two people to drag him off the track while his legs stayed limp I’d say they knew he had a SCI

He does speak a different language so who know what he was telling them in that moment. But regardless I’ve witnessed instances where people are trying to get up and medics are holding them down and telling them to not move while they evaluate the situation. So I don’t really see your point. Kid got handled like his life was In danger if he stayed on that track one second longer.
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7/7/2022 8:39am
Zycki11 wrote:
I understand that, unfortunately it doesn't mean a lawsuit should be the option moving forward. If a guy is hurt, he tells them he is hurt...
I understand that, unfortunately it doesn't mean a lawsuit should be the option moving forward. If a guy is hurt, he tells them he is hurt and to take caution. He knew right away things were serious, it is his responsibility if conscious to alert medics
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Considering they put a neck collar on him, and they knew they’d need two people to drag him off the track while his legs stayed limp...
Considering they put a neck collar on him, and they knew they’d need two people to drag him off the track while his legs stayed limp I’d say they knew he had a SCI

He does speak a different language so who know what he was telling them in that moment. But regardless I’ve witnessed instances where people are trying to get up and medics are holding them down and telling them to not move while they evaluate the situation. So I don’t really see your point. Kid got handled like his life was In danger if he stayed on that track one second longer.
That's a fair assessment
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I feel for all involved as I am sure everyone realizes the tragedy of the event. That said he was obviously mishandled by medical professionals and the sport as a whole needs to revamp their entire program from the bottom up. It's Ashamed on all levels.
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Perhaps I am just old school, but in this case I may be changing my stance. I just hope that he finds peace with himself because it is a difficult journey mentally and he seems to be struggling mightily at the moment. I hope his family supports him and they find a way to move forward
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Really crappy deal regardless.

From the insurance side of things and merely my opinion on what I deal with (on a smaller level), Feld and the Asterisk Med Unit all have their own general liability policy that protects them in any liability setting. Like I tell clients all the time, you don't have to be a millionaire to be sued like one. Regardless of outcome, there still are costs associated with trying - on both sides.

Feld and Asterisk policies will pay to either settle out of court if they feel there's a better chance of losing than not, or it'll pay the policy limit, which could be several million each. The insurance companies will look at how everything will appear in front of a jury and determine their chances. Based on the images in this thread and on his IG page, etc., I'd guess they'll try to settle before it ever gets to a courtroom. But from Brian's side, they know they have a good chance of winning so not sure they'd settle when they could potentially get the policy limits. They could also lose and get nothing....which is why it always becomes a game of "Deal or No Deal."

I've had a lot of clients sued, either for negligence, or for some type of faulty craftsmanship. Always amazes me how little the cases have to do with the clients specifically. We paid upwards of a half a million dollars for a trip and fall on a rental property and the clients were surprised when I told them it was settled and paid. They had no clue where the case was at.
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7/7/2022 9:04am
TeamGreen wrote:
Motocross (or Supercross, in this case) is dangerous as FU{<. We do it anyway. We even sign releases acknowledging these facts. Then, shit goes sideways. In...
Motocross (or Supercross, in this case) is dangerous as FU{<.
We do it anyway.
We even sign releases acknowledging these facts.

Then, shit goes sideways. In Brian’s case…REAL sideways.

While I COMPLETELY disagree with the whole lawsuit, I have to look at this from Brian’s position and when I do…

I almost kinda “get it”.

But, at the end of the day…

No one but Brian is responsible for being out there on the track.

Sad; but, true.
gerg wrote:
Apologies TeamGreen I replied earlier but want to reply again and I'm not trying to pile on as generally your posts are great...there's just one sentence...
Apologies TeamGreen I replied earlier but want to reply again and I'm not trying to pile on as generally your posts are great...there's just one sentence that stood out.

With respect...regarding it being Brian being responsible for being on the track...I agree that it was Brian who was responsible for being out there on the track...that's a given.

But surely the responsibility for him leaving the track was in the hands of the medical crew as he was not able to do so...and the medical crew chose to remove Brian from the track in a questionable manner.

It's a shitty situation either side of the fence but hoping lessons can be learned...the pics Mav posted aren't great.
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No worries. Hell, I actually like the dialogue and perspective that’s being shared in here. I remember seeing the release and browsing it a few years...
No worries. Hell, I actually like the dialogue and perspective that’s being shared in here.

I remember seeing the release and browsing it a few years ago & it had a pretty broad “non-liable” set of clauses.

As others are pointing out/arguing “for” provisions of gross negligence? I’m guessing certain states (like California) provide for “you can’t sign away your rights”. If I had to guess, that’s where a door could be opened for this suit.

Still, when I think about the clauses in that release? They’ve got all sorts of language to get around as much responsibility as possible.

Like everyone-else, I’m dumbfounded that they didn’t put him on a back-board as I’ve seen them do on so many other occasions. That, too, will be part of the argument supporting negligence: they -have- used the backboard on other riders that they’d suspected of having neck or back injuries.
Doc Bodnar has filed a motion to dismiss certain aspects of the complaint against him, and it does not include anything regarding a release.

Their problem is going to be ignoring their own policies and procedures by not red-flagging the session. It's not going to be hard to sell a narrative to the jury that the 2 trainers that were first on scene removed him hastily to clear the track to avoid a delay in the program. Given evidence of a possible SCI (according to Plaintiff), policy says to red-flag the session to allow sufficient time to assess the injury and prepare him for transport. It's hard to view the photos knowing what was going on inside his spinal column at this time:


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For those that were there, did it appear he had control of his legs after the crash while being carted away and sitting on the mule? It didn't appear so from the photos of him being carried to the mule by the medics, but this photo of him sitting on the mule could be perceived either way. If he had no control of his legs at this point I would think they would be flopping off the step and he wouldn't be able to sit in this position? Or, was he strapped in and Doc is holding his leg? Very hard to tell what's going on there for sure. But if he did have feeling in his legs and lost it as a result of the poor handling that is really really sad.
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7/7/2022 9:27am Edited Date/Time 7/7/2022 9:50am
For those that were there, did it appear he had control of his legs after the crash while being carted away and sitting on the mule...
For those that were there, did it appear he had control of his legs after the crash while being carted away and sitting on the mule? It didn't appear so from the photos of him being carried to the mule by the medics, but this photo of him sitting on the mule could be perceived either way. If he had no control of his legs at this point I would think they would be flopping off the step and he wouldn't be able to sit in this position? Or, was he strapped in and Doc is holding his leg? Very hard to tell what's going on there for sure. But if he did have feeling in his legs and lost it as a result of the poor handling that is really really sad.
Just FYI that is not Doc B in the photo, it is one of the two athletic trainers that were first on scene and moved him.
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I was flagging that day at the end of the sand section where A-Ray ate shit. I did not see the crash and even though I could see the aftermath it was mostly blocked from view. Kind of shocked at how he was dragged off because the guys from the medical crew I talked to were really sharp guys who also ride. The guy who was stationed by me I talked to quite a bit and he is a good rider and loves the opportunity to help racers.



Here is a screenshot of A-Ray's crash. As you can see I am already running uptrack with the flag waving while he is still crashing. #FlaggerOfTheYear and before anyone says it you can also see I could lose a couple pounds. lol


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For those that were there, did it appear he had control of his legs after the crash while being carted away and sitting on the mule...
For those that were there, did it appear he had control of his legs after the crash while being carted away and sitting on the mule? It didn't appear so from the photos of him being carried to the mule by the medics, but this photo of him sitting on the mule could be perceived either way. If he had no control of his legs at this point I would think they would be flopping off the step and he wouldn't be able to sit in this position? Or, was he strapped in and Doc is holding his leg? Very hard to tell what's going on there for sure. But if he did have feeling in his legs and lost it as a result of the poor handling that is really really sad.
I asked this same question back when this happened:



Very good answer and insight from people in here who unfortunately have dealt with SCI or are paraplegics:

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Why-no-status-on-Moreau,…
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7/7/2022 10:51am
For those that were there, did it appear he had control of his legs after the crash while being carted away and sitting on the mule...
For those that were there, did it appear he had control of his legs after the crash while being carted away and sitting on the mule? It didn't appear so from the photos of him being carried to the mule by the medics, but this photo of him sitting on the mule could be perceived either way. If he had no control of his legs at this point I would think they would be flopping off the step and he wouldn't be able to sit in this position? Or, was he strapped in and Doc is holding his leg? Very hard to tell what's going on there for sure. But if he did have feeling in his legs and lost it as a result of the poor handling that is really really sad.
FerCzD wrote:
I asked this same question back when this happened: [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/07/07/558502/s1200_vitalmx.jpg[/img] Very good answer and insight from people in here who unfortunately have dealt with SCI or...
I asked this same question back when this happened:



Very good answer and insight from people in here who unfortunately have dealt with SCI or are paraplegics:

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/Why-no-status-on-Moreau,…
Well, at least I'm consistent. I inquired about the same thing in that thread a couple years ago.
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7/7/2022 11:21am Edited Date/Time 7/7/2022 11:22am
For those that were there, did it appear he had control of his legs after the crash while being carted away and sitting on the mule...
For those that were there, did it appear he had control of his legs after the crash while being carted away and sitting on the mule? It didn't appear so from the photos of him being carried to the mule by the medics, but this photo of him sitting on the mule could be perceived either way. If he had no control of his legs at this point I would think they would be flopping off the step and he wouldn't be able to sit in this position? Or, was he strapped in and Doc is holding his leg? Very hard to tell what's going on there for sure. But if he did have feeling in his legs and lost it as a result of the poor handling that is really really sad.
Have you never seen someone sit in a wheelchair before? The bones and joints in peoples legs don’t just stop functioning properly because they don’t have control of them. Weight and gravity will hold them in place for the most part once they’re positioned, especially if you have heavy boots on your feet.

That is just another horrible photo of how they treated this injury though. Someone with a neck/back injury should not be sat upright and hauled off (especially over bumpy terrain) like that. Insane amounts of negligence or just plain stupidity!
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First I heard of this so can’t comment but I was surprised they didn’t red flag Dean Wilson’s crash. He was reportedly bleeding heavily with an unknown severity injury and it was early in the moto. TV schedules cannot overrule safety.
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For those that were there, did it appear he had control of his legs after the crash while being carted away and sitting on the mule...
For those that were there, did it appear he had control of his legs after the crash while being carted away and sitting on the mule? It didn't appear so from the photos of him being carried to the mule by the medics, but this photo of him sitting on the mule could be perceived either way. If he had no control of his legs at this point I would think they would be flopping off the step and he wouldn't be able to sit in this position? Or, was he strapped in and Doc is holding his leg? Very hard to tell what's going on there for sure. But if he did have feeling in his legs and lost it as a result of the poor handling that is really really sad.
aeffertz wrote:
Have you never seen someone sit in a wheelchair before? The bones and joints in peoples legs don’t just stop functioning properly because they don’t have...
Have you never seen someone sit in a wheelchair before? The bones and joints in peoples legs don’t just stop functioning properly because they don’t have control of them. Weight and gravity will hold them in place for the most part once they’re positioned, especially if you have heavy boots on your feet.

That is just another horrible photo of how they treated this injury though. Someone with a neck/back injury should not be sat upright and hauled off (especially over bumpy terrain) like that. Insane amounts of negligence or just plain stupidity!
Very aware of that. Wheel chair foot rests are angled. This mule has a flat step with a little different contouring body position of a wheelchair so it could easily bounce a leg off the flat rear step when wheeling down the side of the bumpy super cross track.
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7/7/2022 12:56pm Edited Date/Time 7/8/2022 6:34am
With all the money Feld makes off SX there is no reason not to have better medical protocols in place

Even at the backwoods hillbilly tracks I ride at sometimes, the medical crew knows not to rush over and immediately move someone if they had a serious crash. Its like moto crash 101.
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TeamGreen wrote:
Motocross (or Supercross, in this case) is dangerous as FU{<. We do it anyway. We even sign releases acknowledging these facts. Then, shit goes sideways. In...
Motocross (or Supercross, in this case) is dangerous as FU{<.
We do it anyway.
We even sign releases acknowledging these facts.

Then, shit goes sideways. In Brian’s case…REAL sideways.

While I COMPLETELY disagree with the whole lawsuit, I have to look at this from Brian’s position and when I do…

I almost kinda “get it”.

But, at the end of the day…

No one but Brian is responsible for being out there on the track.

Sad; but, true.
gerg wrote:
Apologies TeamGreen I replied earlier but want to reply again and I'm not trying to pile on as generally your posts are great...there's just one sentence...
Apologies TeamGreen I replied earlier but want to reply again and I'm not trying to pile on as generally your posts are great...there's just one sentence that stood out.

With respect...regarding it being Brian being responsible for being on the track...I agree that it was Brian who was responsible for being out there on the track...that's a given.

But surely the responsibility for him leaving the track was in the hands of the medical crew as he was not able to do so...and the medical crew chose to remove Brian from the track in a questionable manner.

It's a shitty situation either side of the fence but hoping lessons can be learned...the pics Mav posted aren't great.
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No worries. Hell, I actually like the dialogue and perspective that’s being shared in here. I remember seeing the release and browsing it a few years...
No worries. Hell, I actually like the dialogue and perspective that’s being shared in here.

I remember seeing the release and browsing it a few years ago & it had a pretty broad “non-liable” set of clauses.

As others are pointing out/arguing “for” provisions of gross negligence? I’m guessing certain states (like California) provide for “you can’t sign away your rights”. If I had to guess, that’s where a door could be opened for this suit.

Still, when I think about the clauses in that release? They’ve got all sorts of language to get around as much responsibility as possible.

Like everyone-else, I’m dumbfounded that they didn’t put him on a back-board as I’ve seen them do on so many other occasions. That, too, will be part of the argument supporting negligence: they -have- used the backboard on other riders that they’d suspected of having neck or back injuries.
I agree with the earlier post that you made IF the lawsuit were about track design, etc., ala RC16.

But when it comes to things that are basically 'malpractice', that's a different story. It sounds like the complaint is about the medical treatment causing more damage than may have already been there.

I feel for the young man. It seems like it will be hard to prove that the medics did more damage if he already had no feeling, so it will be a double edge sword to overcome. If he simply had pain but could move, then it would be a lot easier to prove that the actions of the medical crew caused more damage. If he had already lost the ability to move, it's murkier at best. And as someone alluded to, his language skills may not have meshed with the guys first on the scene.

About a decade ago a friend of mine who was a paramedic (since retired) told me to never try to perform serious aid on anyone unless you are absolutely sure of what you are doing because no good deed goes unpunished if something goes wrong. This is a bit different, but similar in some respects also. I'm sure that these guys thought that they were doing the right thing, but it didn't turn out the way that was expected.
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Release or no release, I'm pretty sure medics have certain protocols to follow when they suspect a neck or back injury. I'm not a medic, but...
Release or no release, I'm pretty sure medics have certain protocols to follow when they suspect a neck or back injury. I'm not a medic, but this doesn't look like proper care to me.




Said it before and said it again, I hope he wins the case. This doesn't mean that I'm against the Astar Medical Crew and one Medical Doctor going everywhere with those guys, like Sid Watkins did with the F1 (a job that is now done by Professor Saillant if I'm not mistaken but enough about F1). It is just about this one case where they messed up, a rider yells: "I've no feeling in my lower body, I've no feeling in my legs". Still they pull, no they drag him off under his arms, what puts huge traction on all his vertebrates. You pull them from each other that way what is enormously messed up and plain wrong.

What the most infuriating is, is the fact that they didn't threw the red flag. It was just practice they could've paused the session the a red flag. Also with Dean Wilson, he's bleeding nobody knows if it's a punctured vain or artery and no red flag. He was in excruciating pain and in no time in pile of his own blood but no red flag was waved. Maybe some of our safety protocols could use an update.
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7/7/2022 4:21pm Edited Date/Time 7/7/2022 4:23pm
For those that were there, did it appear he had control of his legs after the crash while being carted away and sitting on the mule...
For those that were there, did it appear he had control of his legs after the crash while being carted away and sitting on the mule? It didn't appear so from the photos of him being carried to the mule by the medics, but this photo of him sitting on the mule could be perceived either way. If he had no control of his legs at this point I would think they would be flopping off the step and he wouldn't be able to sit in this position? Or, was he strapped in and Doc is holding his leg? Very hard to tell what's going on there for sure. But if he did have feeling in his legs and lost it as a result of the poor handling that is really really sad.
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Just FYI that is not Doc B in the photo, it is one of the two athletic trainers that were first on scene and moved him.
So are the athletic trainers who help out on the Alpinestars rig trained paramedics? If not, I think it would might be where the liability lies. I’m not a trainer, but I doubt that much of their education revolves around undiagnosed trauma care. I would hope they are all paramedics.
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I feel bad for everyone involved. Yeah, the pictures don't look good. Imagine being the guys in those pictures and wondering if it was your fault and living with that mistake. They are there to help, regardless of training/mistakes.

Everyone is looking for the "bad guy" to string up.

Life isn't fair folks. Bad shit happens, sometimes there is no rhyme or reason.


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7/7/2022 6:35pm Edited Date/Time 7/7/2022 6:36pm
Zycki11 wrote:
Just to add clarity, I really want the best for Brian and agree that if he did tell the alpinestar medical crew that he couldn't move...
Just to add clarity, I really want the best for Brian and agree that if he did tell the alpinestar medical crew that he couldn't move or had tingling etc etc then they should be held liable. If he did not speak up in this situation then they are not the wiser. I have a little insight into these situations so I have a little bit different outlook perhaps
I think they teach you in the most basic of first aid courses “assume the worst” atleast that’s what I remember ffrom CPR first aid training 20+ years ago.

Whichever, a rider laying on the track not able to get up under his own power, “assume the worst” no matter if he speaks up or not.

Practice! Stop dirt bike practice for a minute to properly care for injured humans.
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Was there any video posted of the crash and the resulting removal of Brian from the track?

The pictures don’t paint the whole picture as to why he may have been moved without taking the necessary C spine precautions and securing him to a back board or even a Kendrick device. The procedure the A stars crew employed is something you would do in a combat zone, active shooter, or other situation where there’s high likelihood of being struck by a falling object or exposure to something worse such as fire.
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