The Whiskey Throttle Show Mike Alessi

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Great show is up. Excellent insight. Very revealing and different perspective on the Alessi clan.
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4/22/2022 11:41am
Pretty good show. I wonder if the track Tony built in a field with shovels is the one in the first mini warriors that mike and Jeff are riding
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4/22/2022 12:13pm
I’m just going ask because someone else will eventually: did they get into laser gate or Varner at all?
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4/22/2022 12:16pm
Hell yeah stoked for this one. I didn't even know it was up already. Thanks 520!
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4/22/2022 3:36pm
Can you imagine how much hype there would be today if a 16 year old podiumed his 2nd ever outdoor 450 national? Just saying, hype was kinda warranted. It just added that unneeded 🎯 . Warrior is still battling out there. Respect ✊.
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Pretty good show. I wonder if the track Tony built in a field with shovels is the one in the first mini warriors that mike and...
Pretty good show. I wonder if the track Tony built in a field with shovels is the one in the first mini warriors that mike and Jeff are riding
It was at the west end of Simi Valley, on Waste Management land if I am not mistaken.
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Was a great podcast. He also said he’s wanting to race the world supercross rounds with MCR.
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4/22/2022 5:31pm
Yeti831 wrote:
I’m just going ask because someone else will eventually: did they get into laser gate or Varner at all?
Lasergate was Jeff but it was an Alessi mess so I know why you bring it up at least. You think Ping is going to ask about Varner? "Hey what do you think about Varner burning people on their engines?" Cmon
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4/22/2022 5:56pm
Yeti831 wrote:
I’m just going ask because someone else will eventually: did they get into laser gate or Varner at all?
Lasergate was Jeff but it was an Alessi mess so I know why you bring it up at least. You think Ping is going to ask...
Lasergate was Jeff but it was an Alessi mess so I know why you bring it up at least. You think Ping is going to ask about Varner? "Hey what do you think about Varner burning people on their engines?" Cmon
I wasn’t sure about the Varner thing.

I know LG was his brother, just didn’t know if they went into the family side of it and how it affected them overall.
4/22/2022 6:27pm
I feel bad for Mike. Victim of circumstances or guilt by association or whatever you want to call it but his “crew” failed him.
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4/22/2022 6:33pm
I’m a fan. Dude was involved in some controversy, some his fault and some not, but overall he’s a great guy and pure racer at heart.

Got the chance to walk the track with him way back in the early 2000s when he raced Havasu WORCS. He was a solid dude, very humble and more than willing to take advice from the experienced off road pros in the group I was with.
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Mikey had a hell of a career. He legit battled with the best to ever do it for a number of years. Nothing but respect for the man. He’s as true a racer as it gets.
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4/22/2022 10:01pm
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I found it a cringy pod with a lot of Mike's answers and statements.
I've never met him, and a lot say he's such a good guy, but that interview SCREAMS not much life experience and a sheltered childhood to me.
The amount of times Mike would say something as fact when talking about another rider, such as when he told Ping how and why Langston got hurt at Hangtown. Ping said multiple times "well actually what really happened was...."
Don't get me wrong, it sounds like he's in a decent place in life now and I wish him the best, but it feels like a lot of you are looking at his past through some rose-colored lenses.
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4/22/2022 10:55pm
He is gonna be one of the longest autograph lines in the pits at world sx.

-I hope Genova has his Australian spa sales strategy in place - think its gonna be good business.
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4/22/2022 11:44pm
Yeti831 wrote:
I’m just going ask because someone else will eventually: did they get into laser gate or Varner at all?
Lasergate was Jeff but it was an Alessi mess so I know why you bring it up at least. You think Ping is going to ask...
Lasergate was Jeff but it was an Alessi mess so I know why you bring it up at least. You think Ping is going to ask about Varner? "Hey what do you think about Varner burning people on their engines?" Cmon
Pingree literally asked Doug Henry about pulling his wiener out in a public area and getting in trouble for it. Ping will ask bad questions.
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Moto76er wrote:
Can you imagine how much hype there would be today if a 16 year old podiumed his 2nd ever outdoor 450 national? Just saying, hype was...
Can you imagine how much hype there would be today if a 16 year old podiumed his 2nd ever outdoor 450 national? Just saying, hype was kinda warranted. It just added that unneeded 🎯 . Warrior is still battling out there. Respect ✊.
The Jett hype at the moment is almost unbearable..
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I guess I'm in the minority here, but I found it a cringy pod with a lot of Mike's answers and statements. I've never met him...
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I found it a cringy pod with a lot of Mike's answers and statements.
I've never met him, and a lot say he's such a good guy, but that interview SCREAMS not much life experience and a sheltered childhood to me.
The amount of times Mike would say something as fact when talking about another rider, such as when he told Ping how and why Langston got hurt at Hangtown. Ping said multiple times "well actually what really happened was...."
Don't get me wrong, it sounds like he's in a decent place in life now and I wish him the best, but it feels like a lot of you are looking at his past through some rose-colored lenses.
There was some revisionist history being recited for sure.
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4/23/2022 5:02am
Yeti831 wrote:
I’m just going ask because someone else will eventually: did they get into laser gate or Varner at all?
Lasergate was Jeff but it was an Alessi mess so I know why you bring it up at least. You think Ping is going to ask...
Lasergate was Jeff but it was an Alessi mess so I know why you bring it up at least. You think Ping is going to ask about Varner? "Hey what do you think about Varner burning people on their engines?" Cmon
Huevos wrote:
Pingree literally asked Doug Henry about pulling his wiener out in a public area and getting in trouble for it. Ping will ask bad questions.
Did he really?! I stand corrected. I didn't know Ping would go in that heavy
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Mikey had a hell of a career. He legit battled with the best to ever do it for a number of years. Nothing but respect for...
Mikey had a hell of a career. He legit battled with the best to ever do it for a number of years. Nothing but respect for the man. He’s as true a racer as it gets.
Not saying I'm a big Alessi fan, but he definitely gained my respect in 2008 when he never stopped trying his ass off to beat James when everyone else came to the line beat.
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4/23/2022 6:04am
Whenever I think about Mike all I see is after his crash over a blind su
Not following a holeshot (of course) then Christ knows how many bikes ran over him. That is the worst I have ever seen, way worse that when RV broke his legs in SX. To think he came back from that was a serious show of character.
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4/25/2022 1:52am
After listening to that I have a much different perspective of Mike and his career.
What a dedicated hard racer that just missed that last step many times.
I agree the Tee shirt blackened his image towards a lot of fans.
The fact that he didn't talk to Jeff for a long time after laser gate, showed how wrong some of us were to lay blame.
Well done Mike and Ping, another great listen/ watch.
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4/25/2022 2:28am
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I found it a cringy pod with a lot of Mike's answers and statements. I've never met him...
I guess I'm in the minority here, but I found it a cringy pod with a lot of Mike's answers and statements.
I've never met him, and a lot say he's such a good guy, but that interview SCREAMS not much life experience and a sheltered childhood to me.
The amount of times Mike would say something as fact when talking about another rider, such as when he told Ping how and why Langston got hurt at Hangtown. Ping said multiple times "well actually what really happened was...."
Don't get me wrong, it sounds like he's in a decent place in life now and I wish him the best, but it feels like a lot of you are looking at his past through some rose-colored lenses.
I agree with you on this, Mike and Jeff have quite often been the poster boys of why home schooling can be bad,
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I haven’t heard it all just started listening on a short drive yesterday but at the start of the pod he mentioned that he’d just been riding outdoors but wouldn’t say the name of the track because he didn’t want to give them free publicity? What was all that about??
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It was a very strange and slightly bizzarre interview. It sounded like Ping was trying to help Alessi out when he got too carried away.
There were some very awkward melodramatic «self-pats» on the back too.
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4/25/2022 7:31am Edited Date/Time 4/25/2022 7:32am
luke11 wrote:
I haven’t heard it all just started listening on a short drive yesterday but at the start of the pod he mentioned that he’d just been...
I haven’t heard it all just started listening on a short drive yesterday but at the start of the pod he mentioned that he’d just been riding outdoors but wouldn’t say the name of the track because he didn’t want to give them free publicity? What was all that about??
It came off as very arrogant to me as if he is owed something to mention the facility. Also, Ping didn't bring up Varner, so I am sure he is now to blame for Varner's business practices too.
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luke11 wrote:
I haven’t heard it all just started listening on a short drive yesterday but at the start of the pod he mentioned that he’d just been...
I haven’t heard it all just started listening on a short drive yesterday but at the start of the pod he mentioned that he’d just been riding outdoors but wouldn’t say the name of the track because he didn’t want to give them free publicity? What was all that about??
Yeah that was weird. Obviously it's Pala. But that was strange for sure
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4/25/2022 9:15am Edited Date/Time 4/25/2022 9:17am
Finished it this morning. Mike came off much better than I expected. I've never been a 'hater' of MA, but did find myself wondering what the hell was wrong with him going from dominating as an amateur to being almost an afterthought most of his pro career (I still feel that most of that had to do with his father being too close to the action).

One thing that seemed like a theme during the interview, and what I think probably encapsulates the difference between the mindsets of him and the guys who have won so much, is that Mike talked about things like 'winning' practice. He used the term 'winning' for things like that, and I don't recall any of the top guys ever really using that sort of thought process before. I have heard them talking about 'qualifying first' or things like that, but Mike almost sounded like those were huge deals and were as big of a deal as winning an actual race itself.

I kind of wonder if he got settled into that mindset of 'I won practice, now if I get the holeshot I have 2 of 3 (practice, race start, race finish) for the day and can just relax' type of mentality.

Even the guys who never won a ton who have been on Whiskey Throttle never seemed to talk about 'winning' practice the way that it came off for MA.

I hope he does well on his return to racing, he does seem like a good dude overall and I'm sure that he has good intentions, etc. I think that the WT podcast probably moved the needle slightly to the 'like' side for me, but nothing tremendously. If I was at 50/50 before the podcast, then I am at about 50.1/49.9 now.

Hopefully he can race and stay healthy as long as he wants to keep doing it!
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Yeti831 wrote:
I’m just going ask because someone else will eventually: did they get into laser gate or Varner at all?
Lasergate was Jeff but it was an Alessi mess so I know why you bring it up at least. You think Ping is going to ask...
Lasergate was Jeff but it was an Alessi mess so I know why you bring it up at least. You think Ping is going to ask about Varner? "Hey what do you think about Varner burning people on their engines?" Cmon
Huevos wrote:
Pingree literally asked Doug Henry about pulling his wiener out in a public area and getting in trouble for it. Ping will ask bad questions.
Yeah, I remember listening to that and thought that Ping handled it about as well as someone could do it. He wasn't overly accusatory but he did ask the tough question and to Henry's credit, he handled it pretty well too. If you have ever spent time around someone who has to cath, you can start to somewhat understand their frustrations with it and a lot end up having those moments where they just don't care where they are or what they are doing and they just say "F it" and don't really care who sees what. I've had a couple of friends and acquaintances who probably could have been charged with something had it been different people around them when they were frustrated and needed to cath.
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4/25/2022 9:59am
I need to get through the whole pod still, but so far it's mostly what I expected. Mike always seems to "stick to the script"... That script being whatever his (and his dad's) truth is. I could almost hear the preparation and talking points that Mike recited prior to this interview. Very guarded!

I like Mike, but I can't help but think he was stunted over the years by not learning from mistakes... Not taking ownership of situations. Can't learn much that way. Why put a spin on everything? I can only speculate that his dad instilled much of that in him.

Still a badass racer and really, ALWAYS a racer. Feel like he's one of those guys that will be around forever like Dubach.
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4/25/2022 10:24am
I just hope we get Tony on the show at some point. I bet he has some fascinating stories he’d love to share.
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It’s Mike’s world we just live in it. It’s like he is trying to justify how close he was to being ‘great’, all his world firsts etc. kinda can tell he finds it hard to get over not being a multi time champ, and how his career went (being so close so many times). He is a pretty badass dude on a bike who accomplished a lot! It’s a shame all the shit that surrounded him.

Ping did a great job of guiding Mike through that one. Can see why he’s not a podcast favourite. He missed the point on a lot of questions, to just go back around and justify his success and happiness in life.
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