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Pool-eh wrote:
The dudes screen name is groyper? As in the white nationalist/supremacist group groyper. Jesus how was that allowed on here? No wonder he has such shifty...
The dudes screen name is groyper? As in the white nationalist/supremacist group groyper. Jesus how was that allowed on here? No wonder he has such shifty ideas
"The Groyper movement has been described as white nationalist, homophobic, nativist, fascist, sexist, antisemitic, and an attempt to rebrand the alt-right movement."

wtf... yeah get this guy outta here
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Bruce372 wrote:
At least 67 innocent Ukranian people murdered already on the first day and people wanna go celebrate the aggressor with a dirt bike race? WTF is...
At least 67 innocent Ukranian people murdered already on the first day and people wanna go celebrate the aggressor with a dirt bike race?

WTF is wrong with people?
137+ dead and counting.
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Pool-eh wrote:
The dudes screen name is groyper? As in the white nationalist/supremacist group groyper. Jesus how was that allowed on here? No wonder he has such shifty...
The dudes screen name is groyper? As in the white nationalist/supremacist group groyper. Jesus how was that allowed on here? No wonder he has such shifty ideas
ktmdan wrote:
"The Groyper movement has been described as white nationalist, homophobic, nativist, fascist, sexist, antisemitic, and an attempt to rebrand the alt-right movement." wtf... yeah get this...
"The Groyper movement has been described as white nationalist, homophobic, nativist, fascist, sexist, antisemitic, and an attempt to rebrand the alt-right movement."

wtf... yeah get this guy outta here
Pretty sad, he starts one thread for himself on bike choice, and everyone helps him. But every other thread he replies ends up being a race to the bottom.

Kinda like the guy that gets in a hot tub full of people to take a piss.
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Pool-eh wrote:
The dudes screen name is groyper? As in the white nationalist/supremacist group groyper. Jesus how was that allowed on here? No wonder he has such shifty...
The dudes screen name is groyper? As in the white nationalist/supremacist group groyper. Jesus how was that allowed on here? No wonder he has such shifty ideas
ktmdan wrote:
"The Groyper movement has been described as white nationalist, homophobic, nativist, fascist, sexist, antisemitic, and an attempt to rebrand the alt-right movement." wtf... yeah get this...
"The Groyper movement has been described as white nationalist, homophobic, nativist, fascist, sexist, antisemitic, and an attempt to rebrand the alt-right movement."

wtf... yeah get this guy outta here
I've messaged ML512 twice.
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Grouper wrote:
Why would you cancel it?
Titan1 wrote:
Because i heard Putin is in favor of an e-start on the RM-Z's...
I'm not even reading any further in this thread. Grinning
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2/24/2022 8:13pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2022 8:17pm
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“He’s a monster!!”

-average CNN enjoyer
aeffertz wrote:
You are either insane or severely brain washed if you think Putin is a good person and the situation unfolding is some how positive. I can't...
You are either insane or severely brain washed if you think Putin is a good person and the situation unfolding is some how positive.

I can't believe something as blatant as this is somehow still dividing us... We're all fucked, this divide is getting out of control beyond anything I would have ever imagined.
Trump loves him and a lot of folks on this board love Trump. So maybe this moran is brainwashed.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/24/politics/donald-trump-praises-putin/index.html
Is it bad to acknowledge when your adversary is smart?

Putin is smart, he got out of line when Obama was President, behaved when Trump was President and is now flexing his muscle once again. Why wouldn't Trump admit it's smart? Don't think for a minute that great generals don't study their counterparts and respect them when it suits. I'm not saying that Trump is a great military mind because he simply isn't. What he has though is a sublime understanding of pressure and leverage.


What cannot be denied is weakness is never a good policy, just ask Neville Chamberlain.
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I'm no foreign policy expert, but I feel it's safe to side against killing innocent civilians.
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Pool-eh wrote:
The dudes screen name is groyper? As in the white nationalist/supremacist group groyper. Jesus how was that allowed on here? No wonder he has such shifty...
The dudes screen name is groyper? As in the white nationalist/supremacist group groyper. Jesus how was that allowed on here? No wonder he has such shifty ideas
ktmdan wrote:
"The Groyper movement has been described as white nationalist, homophobic, nativist, fascist, sexist, antisemitic, and an attempt to rebrand the alt-right movement." wtf... yeah get this...
"The Groyper movement has been described as white nationalist, homophobic, nativist, fascist, sexist, antisemitic, and an attempt to rebrand the alt-right movement."

wtf... yeah get this guy outta here
-MAVERICK- wrote:
I've messaged ML512 twice.
His account has been locked.
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2/24/2022 8:23pm
McG194 wrote:
Is it bad to acknowledge when your adversary is smart? Putin is smart, he got out of line when Obama was President, behaved when Trump was...
Is it bad to acknowledge when your adversary is smart?

Putin is smart, he got out of line when Obama was President, behaved when Trump was President and is now flexing his muscle once again. Why wouldn't Trump admit it's smart? Don't think for a minute that great generals don't study their counterparts and respect them when it suits. I'm not saying that Trump is a great military mind because he simply isn't. What he has though is a sublime understanding of pressure and leverage.


What cannot be denied is weakness is never a good policy, just ask Neville Chamberlain.
So in your mind Hitler was a genius ??
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2/24/2022 8:28pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2022 8:30pm
aeffertz wrote:
You are either insane or severely brain washed if you think Putin is a good person and the situation unfolding is some how positive. I can't...
You are either insane or severely brain washed if you think Putin is a good person and the situation unfolding is some how positive.

I can't believe something as blatant as this is somehow still dividing us... We're all fucked, this divide is getting out of control beyond anything I would have ever imagined.
Trump loves him and a lot of folks on this board love Trump. So maybe this moran is brainwashed.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/24/politics/donald-trump-praises-putin/index.html
McG194 wrote:
Is it bad to acknowledge when your adversary is smart? Putin is smart, he got out of line when Obama was President, behaved when Trump was...
Is it bad to acknowledge when your adversary is smart?

Putin is smart, he got out of line when Obama was President, behaved when Trump was President and is now flexing his muscle once again. Why wouldn't Trump admit it's smart? Don't think for a minute that great generals don't study their counterparts and respect them when it suits. I'm not saying that Trump is a great military mind because he simply isn't. What he has though is a sublime understanding of pressure and leverage.


What cannot be denied is weakness is never a good policy, just ask Neville Chamberlain.
So, you wanna start WW3? Are you and your kids planning to go fight?

Probably won't need to since WW3 might end the same way as WW2... just on a bigger scale.

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The propaganda is alarmingly effective. You all just immediately side against Putin/Russia? Could it be there is no good dog in this fight? The NATO expansion towards Russia, the US backed coup in 2014 Ukraine... Not to mention this war is great timing for the current US administration to distract us all from covid blunders and inflation. They can just blame putin now and anyone who disagrees is an anti-American putin lover. Don't fall for it.
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No way this race happens. It doesn't matter what your politics are, or what news channel you watch.

Aren't most of the MXGP teams Euro based? They'll just boycott the event and then put pressure on the FIM.

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Snoqualmie wrote:
This event should be canceled - maybe you already have taken these steps. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2022/02/24/535315/s1200_2DAFC81E_D423_478E_A18B_E441084B415C.jpg[/img]
This event should be canceled - maybe you already have taken these steps.


stone881 wrote:
I think you might watch too much propaganda disguised as "news".
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ML put Groyper in a box.


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westeast wrote:
The propaganda is alarmingly effective. You all just immediately side against Putin/Russia? Could it be there is no good dog in this fight? The NATO expansion...
The propaganda is alarmingly effective. You all just immediately side against Putin/Russia? Could it be there is no good dog in this fight? The NATO expansion towards Russia, the US backed coup in 2014 Ukraine... Not to mention this war is great timing for the current US administration to distract us all from covid blunders and inflation. They can just blame putin now and anyone who disagrees is an anti-American putin lover. Don't fall for it.
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? It is absolutely baffling to me real humans can think like this.
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aeffertz wrote:
You are either insane or severely brain washed if you think Putin is a good person and the situation unfolding is some how positive. I can't...
You are either insane or severely brain washed if you think Putin is a good person and the situation unfolding is some how positive.

I can't believe something as blatant as this is somehow still dividing us... We're all fucked, this divide is getting out of control beyond anything I would have ever imagined.
Trump loves him and a lot of folks on this board love Trump. So maybe this moran is brainwashed.

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/24/politics/donald-trump-praises-putin/index.html
McG194 wrote:
Is it bad to acknowledge when your adversary is smart? Putin is smart, he got out of line when Obama was President, behaved when Trump was...
Is it bad to acknowledge when your adversary is smart?

Putin is smart, he got out of line when Obama was President, behaved when Trump was President and is now flexing his muscle once again. Why wouldn't Trump admit it's smart? Don't think for a minute that great generals don't study their counterparts and respect them when it suits. I'm not saying that Trump is a great military mind because he simply isn't. What he has though is a sublime understanding of pressure and leverage.


What cannot be denied is weakness is never a good policy, just ask Neville Chamberlain.
Putin, Respect and Smart in the same breath. Don't think I can call myself a conservative any longer after this bullshit I have seen spewed the past 48 hours.
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Sorry didn’t mean to bring your people into it.
Sorry didn't mean to showcase you can't stay on topic.
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2/24/2022 8:45pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2022 8:48pm
McG194 wrote:
Is it bad to acknowledge when your adversary is smart? Putin is smart, he got out of line when Obama was President, behaved when Trump was...
Is it bad to acknowledge when your adversary is smart?

Putin is smart, he got out of line when Obama was President, behaved when Trump was President and is now flexing his muscle once again. Why wouldn't Trump admit it's smart? Don't think for a minute that great generals don't study their counterparts and respect them when it suits. I'm not saying that Trump is a great military mind because he simply isn't. What he has though is a sublime understanding of pressure and leverage.


What cannot be denied is weakness is never a good policy, just ask Neville Chamberlain.
mb60 wrote:
So in your mind Hitler was a genius ??
That's not just stupid, that's turbo stupid.

No, Hitler was an idiot and pretty much a junkie, some of his generals used genius tactics.

Do you not think the Blitz was a great tactic? It was devastatingly effective was it not? If you are at all a student of tactics you will know that the allied forces led by American Generals used the same tactics defeating Iraq in 91. Maybe Powell and Schwarzkopf should not have used those tactics because they were used by one of the most evil men in history.

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westeast wrote:
The propaganda is alarmingly effective. You all just immediately side against Putin/Russia? Could it be there is no good dog in this fight? The NATO expansion...
The propaganda is alarmingly effective. You all just immediately side against Putin/Russia? Could it be there is no good dog in this fight? The NATO expansion towards Russia, the US backed coup in 2014 Ukraine... Not to mention this war is great timing for the current US administration to distract us all from covid blunders and inflation. They can just blame putin now and anyone who disagrees is an anti-American putin lover. Don't fall for it.
maxer wrote:
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? It is absolutely baffling to me real humans can think like this.
WTF are you talking about? Are you naive enough to think that the administration won’t use this as cover for the current state of affairs? The heat is off of their failed domestic policies and they are for sure going to take advantage of it.
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McG194 wrote:
That's not just stupid, that's turbo stupid. No, Hitler was an idiot and pretty much a junkie, some of his generals used genius tactics. Do you...
That's not just stupid, that's turbo stupid.

No, Hitler was an idiot and pretty much a junkie, some of his generals used genius tactics.

Do you not think the Blitz was a great tactic? It was devastatingly effective was it not? If you are at all a student of tactics you will know that the allied forces led by American Generals used the same tactics defeating Iraq in 91. Maybe Powell and Schwarzkopf should not have used those tactics because they were used by one of the most evil men in history.

You just quoted Putin and Trump as being smart. I will leave it at that. Question is like Hitler will Putin stop at Ukraine ?
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westeast wrote:
The propaganda is alarmingly effective. You all just immediately side against Putin/Russia? Could it be there is no good dog in this fight? The NATO expansion...
The propaganda is alarmingly effective. You all just immediately side against Putin/Russia? Could it be there is no good dog in this fight? The NATO expansion towards Russia, the US backed coup in 2014 Ukraine... Not to mention this war is great timing for the current US administration to distract us all from covid blunders and inflation. They can just blame putin now and anyone who disagrees is an anti-American putin lover. Don't fall for it.
maxer wrote:
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE? It is absolutely baffling to me real humans can think like this.
thewrizzle wrote:
WTF are you talking about? Are you naive enough to think that the administration won’t use this as cover for the current state of affairs? The...
WTF are you talking about? Are you naive enough to think that the administration won’t use this as cover for the current state of affairs? The heat is off of their failed domestic policies and they are for sure going to take advantage of it.
And for what’s it’s worth, I hope Putin chokes on a big box of D!cks.
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“He’s a monster!!”

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maxer wrote:
Defending putin right now is complete insanity. You are a moron - open your eyes to the terror being unleashed on the innocent lives in ukraine...
Defending putin right now is complete insanity. You are a moron - open your eyes to the terror being unleashed on the innocent lives in ukraine as we speak.
Defending Putin right now is complete insanity. You are a moron - open your eyes to the terror being unleashed on the innocent lives in Canada* as we speak. Fixed it for you
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Well, this escalated quickly…

Topic has been transferred to non-moto. Moto-related is not the home for the political blood bath you’re all getting into…good luck everyone…
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McG194 wrote:
That's not just stupid, that's turbo stupid. No, Hitler was an idiot and pretty much a junkie, some of his generals used genius tactics. Do you...
That's not just stupid, that's turbo stupid.

No, Hitler was an idiot and pretty much a junkie, some of his generals used genius tactics.

Do you not think the Blitz was a great tactic? It was devastatingly effective was it not? If you are at all a student of tactics you will know that the allied forces led by American Generals used the same tactics defeating Iraq in 91. Maybe Powell and Schwarzkopf should not have used those tactics because they were used by one of the most evil men in history.

mb60 wrote:
You just quoted Putin and Trump as being smart. I will leave it at that. Question is like Hitler will Putin stop at Ukraine ?
This isn't real life, is it?

Of course, he isn't stopping at Ukraine. He's getting the band back together baby and he has no one in the world willing to step up and stop him from bringing back the Soviet Union.

Why do people have such a hard time separating smart and evil?

Putin is invading because there will be little fallout for him. As of now the United States is still buying his freaking oil. I'd say that's pretty effing smart. He waited till we had a leader who is the weakest president since Carter, I'd say that's smart.

Putin is invading a sovereign country and killing innocent people, I'd say that's pretty effing evil.

Period end of sentence, if you can't understand that both those things can be true you aren't worth me typing another sentence.
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2/24/2022 9:02pm Edited Date/Time 2/24/2022 9:12pm
Since this thread will get clipped anyway ill throw this in here. This is a MX forum after all..
I, as an european with lots of friends in Ukraine have been following the situation all night and what i have seen on twitter coming from some american politicians and their followers are incredibly scary. I hope its just the 5% of the idiots screaming the loudest are the minority..

And yes.. MXGP in russia should be cancelled or moved.

pic below does not represent all republicans, but some...


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Ridelow wrote:
Since this thread will get clipped anyway ill throw this in here. This is a MX forum after all.. I, as an european with lots of...
Since this thread will get clipped anyway ill throw this in here. This is a MX forum after all..
I, as an european with lots of friends in Ukraine have been following the situation all night and what i have seen on twitter coming from some american politicians and their followers are incredibly scary. I hope its just the 5% of the idiots screaming the loudest are the minority..

And yes.. MXGP in russia should be cancelled or moved.

pic below does not represent all republicans, but some...


It doesn't represent any Republicans.

Every republican I know wishes we had a president who kept Putin in line instead of what we have now. No Republican supports what is happening right now. We have a weak president who in showing no backbone at all will encourage China to get after it with Taiwan.
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McG194 wrote:
Is it bad to acknowledge when your adversary is smart? Putin is smart, he got out of line when Obama was President, behaved when Trump was...
Is it bad to acknowledge when your adversary is smart?

Putin is smart, he got out of line when Obama was President, behaved when Trump was President and is now flexing his muscle once again. Why wouldn't Trump admit it's smart? Don't think for a minute that great generals don't study their counterparts and respect them when it suits. I'm not saying that Trump is a great military mind because he simply isn't. What he has though is a sublime understanding of pressure and leverage.


What cannot be denied is weakness is never a good policy, just ask Neville Chamberlain.
mb60 wrote:
So in your mind Hitler was a genius ??
McG194 wrote:
That's not just stupid, that's turbo stupid. No, Hitler was an idiot and pretty much a junkie, some of his generals used genius tactics. Do you...
That's not just stupid, that's turbo stupid.

No, Hitler was an idiot and pretty much a junkie, some of his generals used genius tactics.

Do you not think the Blitz was a great tactic? It was devastatingly effective was it not? If you are at all a student of tactics you will know that the allied forces led by American Generals used the same tactics defeating Iraq in 91. Maybe Powell and Schwarzkopf should not have used those tactics because they were used by one of the most evil men in history.

Hitler was cunning and politically calculated like Putin. But the fact of the matter is that no ex President used his stupid mumbling mouth to praise Hitler as smart, or a genius while talking about how great they are. The carnival barker and everyone on here shitting on our own country while defending a sociopathic tyrant like Putin should slam their head into a wall. Never thought I'd see the day when Americans would defend an autocratic dictator and an ex Prez who is his biggest fan-boy. "Patriots" my f'ing ass.
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