Replay of Friese on Craig...

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FlaNard 2/5/2022 11:06pm
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CPR wrote:
Everyone gets so offended by everything these days! Yes it was a dumb move by Friese, BUT, Dirtworks do deserve a little percentage blame pie of...
Everyone gets so offended by everything these days!

Yes it was a dumb move by Friese, BUT, Dirtworks do deserve a little percentage blame pie of this one.

They dressed this corner terribly with no entrance to the inside line, except deep smooth sand with no bank. If there was indeed no sight lap, it looks like Friese saw that last minute and stupidly chose to dive to the outside.

Still Friese’s fault, but the track crew should really do better than that.


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Congrats to your countrymen Hunter. As above, please ask him to buy Vince lunch. I’m amazed that so far every single comment defending Vince is from...
Congrats to your countrymen Hunter. As above, please ask him to buy Vince lunch. I’m amazed that so far every single comment defending Vince is from an Aussie. My wife’s family lives in Aus so I’m well aware of the blinders some of you get when it comes to sports.
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Being Aussie has nothing to do with it. Did you see how hard Friese raced Hunter in the 1st Main? If you truly think Friese does...
Being Aussie has nothing to do with it. Did you see how hard Friese raced Hunter in the 1st Main?

If you truly think Friese does that, then takes Craig and himself out in the 2nd Main just for Honda and/ or Hunter, than you’re dumber than Friese.
No, I don’t think Vince was doing that to help Hunter or Honda. He made a move that took out Craig and himself which helped Hunter and Honda as a byproduct.
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CPR wrote:
Everyone gets so offended by everything these days! Yes it was a dumb move by Friese, BUT, Dirtworks do deserve a little percentage blame pie of...
Everyone gets so offended by everything these days!

Yes it was a dumb move by Friese, BUT, Dirtworks do deserve a little percentage blame pie of this one.

They dressed this corner terribly with no entrance to the inside line, except deep smooth sand with no bank. If there was indeed no sight lap, it looks like Friese saw that last minute and stupidly chose to dive to the outside.

Still Friese’s fault, but the track crew should really do better than that.


Track crew? I want some of what you're having.
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CPR wrote:
Everyone gets so offended by everything these days! Yes it was a dumb move by Friese, BUT, Dirtworks do deserve a little percentage blame pie of...
Everyone gets so offended by everything these days!

Yes it was a dumb move by Friese, BUT, Dirtworks do deserve a little percentage blame pie of this one.

They dressed this corner terribly with no entrance to the inside line, except deep smooth sand with no bank. If there was indeed no sight lap, it looks like Friese saw that last minute and stupidly chose to dive to the outside.

Still Friese’s fault, but the track crew should really do better than that.


RalphS wrote:
Track crew? I want some of what you're having.
In fairness they completely took out the entrance to inside line .
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shiftmx_22 2/5/2022 11:12pm
2/5/2022 11:12pm
CPR wrote:
Everyone gets so offended by everything these days! Yes it was a dumb move by Friese, BUT, Dirtworks do deserve a little percentage blame pie of...
Everyone gets so offended by everything these days!

Yes it was a dumb move by Friese, BUT, Dirtworks do deserve a little percentage blame pie of this one.

They dressed this corner terribly with no entrance to the inside line, except deep smooth sand with no bank. If there was indeed no sight lap, it looks like Friese saw that last minute and stupidly chose to dive to the outside.

Still Friese’s fault, but the track crew should really do better than that.


RalphS wrote:
Track crew? I want some of what you're having.
brimx153 wrote:
In fairness they completely took out the entrance to inside line .
Give me a break. Hunter (and the entire rest of the field) had no problem with the inside. Friese had exactly zero intention of going inside, regardless of any track work.
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mxmoron 2/5/2022 11:17pm
2/5/2022 11:17pm Edited Date/Time 2/5/2022 11:17pm
To me it seemed like Friese was pinning it and wasn't in a position to set up for the inside line. Craig was trying to pass from the outside and Friese used Craig as the berm. Nice to see the kids going for it.
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inthebadboycorner 2/5/2022 11:25pm
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Nobody else was dumb enough to try to make a pass with Friese on their inside tonight.
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When sand bagging goes wrong
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So when Roczen opens the door and Anderson takes him out it’s okay and Ken should have known better.

But when Craig goes in side by side on the outside Friese is the big cunt?

It’s clear that friese were thinking that craig would let of, but sure as hel that this take out was not intentional.

Craig needs to be smarter than that, just as Roczen should be smarter about his lines.
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One day soon, someone is going to end Vince’s season in the most epic and catastrophic way ever. And when it happens, I will give my tv a standing ovation.

What is it Tony said about the universe getting people back? Wait and see.
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fanger 2/6/2022 12:17am
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I don't get why everyone is so worked up, all I seen was two sand baggers stopped in the sand filling their bags.
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inthebadboycorner 2/6/2022 12:25am
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fanger wrote:
I don't get why everyone is so worked up, all I seen was two sand baggers stopped in the sand filling their bags.
I like it😁
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CPR 2/6/2022 12:28am
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CPR wrote:
Everyone gets so offended by everything these days! Yes it was a dumb move by Friese, BUT, Dirtworks do deserve a little percentage blame pie of...
Everyone gets so offended by everything these days!

Yes it was a dumb move by Friese, BUT, Dirtworks do deserve a little percentage blame pie of this one.

They dressed this corner terribly with no entrance to the inside line, except deep smooth sand with no bank. If there was indeed no sight lap, it looks like Friese saw that last minute and stupidly chose to dive to the outside.

Still Friese’s fault, but the track crew should really do better than that.


RalphS wrote:
Track crew? I want some of what you're having.
So you think what was done to that corner was acceptable (without the benefit of a sighting lap) by the world’s premier SX series standards? I did notice they left it alone for the 450 race.

Please read again what I said and get back to me with what you believe was so unbelievable. Thank you in advance, I’ll wait.
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CPR 2/6/2022 12:32am
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fanger wrote:
I don't get why everyone is so worked up, all I seen was two sand baggers stopped in the sand filling their bags.
I’ll pay that 😂
Mugeneco 2/6/2022 12:40am
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last week it was Roczens fault for leaving door wide open ... while he was in front
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dkg 2/6/2022 12:52am
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Herb Eaversmells wrote:
Friese should be charged with 368 PC F.
LOL, on a more serious note, did anyone really expect Friese to do anything different? We’ve been watching the same old shit for at least the last 10 years
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akmx17 2/6/2022 1:35am
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Ride the 450 class Craig if your so upset of how the riding is in 250s

I know it really sucks to be in last by 20 seconds and get a fourth. But Vince couldn't hack it maybe you can
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philG 2/6/2022 2:10am
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
Vince should have definitely taken the inside, and perhaps it was a classic case of Vince having his blinders on and not being aware of his...
Vince should have definitely taken the inside, and perhaps it was a classic case of Vince having his blinders on and not being aware of his surroundings. But definitely wasn't in his line of sight


And the inner berm wasnt there on the inside where he was, it started later than it had in the earlier races.. Vince was ahead at that point and Craig wasnt in his field of vision.




It wasnt as deliberate as it looked, Craig would not have seen that the berm wasnt there either as Vince was blocking that .

You have to say that Craig rushed a pass he didnt need to make, just like Kenny last week,, dont invite contact.

EDIT::

I rewatched it 10 times , and the rear view looks less iffy than the front view, it goes bad very quickly.

But i guess Vince's history doesnt help him get benefit of the doubt, assuming there is any.



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BJR74 2/6/2022 2:15am
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He must train with Barcia,
Can’t get a podium so I’ll just take them out
Time and time again Vince, what a dick!!
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inthebadboycorner 2/6/2022 2:23am
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
Vince should have definitely taken the inside, and perhaps it was a classic case of Vince having his blinders on and not being aware of his...
Vince should have definitely taken the inside, and perhaps it was a classic case of Vince having his blinders on and not being aware of his surroundings. But definitely wasn't in his line of sight


philG wrote:
And the inner berm wasnt there on the inside where he was, it started later than it had in the earlier races.. Vince was ahead at...
And the inner berm wasnt there on the inside where he was, it started later than it had in the earlier races.. Vince was ahead at that point and Craig wasnt in his field of vision.




It wasnt as deliberate as it looked, Craig would not have seen that the berm wasnt there either as Vince was blocking that .

You have to say that Craig rushed a pass he didnt need to make, just like Kenny last week,, dont invite contact.

EDIT::

I rewatched it 10 times , and the rear view looks less iffy than the front view, it goes bad very quickly.

But i guess Vince's history doesnt help him get benefit of the doubt, assuming there is any.



My thoughts exactly, everyone knows that Vince is going to ride this way. Just the way it is.
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jemcee 2/6/2022 2:38am
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CPR wrote:
Everyone gets so offended by everything these days! Yes it was a dumb move by Friese, BUT, Dirtworks do deserve a little percentage blame pie of...
Everyone gets so offended by everything these days!

Yes it was a dumb move by Friese, BUT, Dirtworks do deserve a little percentage blame pie of this one.

They dressed this corner terribly with no entrance to the inside line, except deep smooth sand with no bank. If there was indeed no sight lap, it looks like Friese saw that last minute and stupidly chose to dive to the outside.

Still Friese’s fault, but the track crew should really do better than that.


RalphS wrote:
Track crew? I want some of what you're having.
CPR wrote:
So you think what was done to that corner was acceptable (without the benefit of a sighting lap) by the world’s premier SX series standards? I...
So you think what was done to that corner was acceptable (without the benefit of a sighting lap) by the world’s premier SX series standards? I did notice they left it alone for the 450 race.

Please read again what I said and get back to me with what you believe was so unbelievable. Thank you in advance, I’ll wait.
I agree that Vince might've thought that there was a berm to jump into and bank off

I'm mainly saying that cause I don't wanna live in a world where a professional rider, even one like Vince Friese could do something that dangerous and that stupid..
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
About 50/50 on the blame pie. Craig wasn't in Vince's vision until a split second before contact. Vince should probably have heard he was there, but...
About 50/50 on the blame pie. Craig wasn't in Vince's vision until a split second before contact. Vince should probably have heard he was there, but probably also went into the corner thinking he was far enough ahead to safely take the line. Kinda hard to pull out that late in the sand
i get what you're trying to say. I think Friese was thinking on blocking and not taking Craig out.
If you look on his body language , it doesn't look like he's expacting Craig to be that close.
I think it's very bad misjudgement on Friese's part and could have ended very both for both guys.
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Derpin' DJ wrote:
Vince should have definitely taken the inside, and perhaps it was a classic case of Vince having his blinders on and not being aware of his...
Vince should have definitely taken the inside, and perhaps it was a classic case of Vince having his blinders on and not being aware of his surroundings. But definitely wasn't in his line of sight


Only dude jumping into that corner. It's debatable...that the inside berm was even an option.
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David934 2/6/2022 2:49am
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Im really, really surprised, that here is noone who says magic words "nah, it was racing incident". It looks like AMA have short hands, but you Weston, you not.
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Tumic wrote:
So when Roczen opens the door and Anderson takes him out it’s okay and Ken should have known better. But when Craig goes in side by...
So when Roczen opens the door and Anderson takes him out it’s okay and Ken should have known better.

But when Craig goes in side by side on the outside Friese is the big cunt?

It’s clear that friese were thinking that craig would let of, but sure as hel that this take out was not intentional.

Craig needs to be smarter than that, just as Roczen should be smarter about his lines.
I was wondering about that as well, altough I take a different conclusion. Both incidents where complete intentional takeouts imo.
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Tumic wrote:
So when Roczen opens the door and Anderson takes him out it’s okay and Ken should have known better. But when Craig goes in side by...
So when Roczen opens the door and Anderson takes him out it’s okay and Ken should have known better.

But when Craig goes in side by side on the outside Friese is the big cunt?

It’s clear that friese were thinking that craig would let of, but sure as hel that this take out was not intentional.

Craig needs to be smarter than that, just as Roczen should be smarter about his lines.
That was what i was thinking. Craig is by far the fastest, it was unnecessary to make that pass that early in the race, he should win it anyway. He's in this class because wants to be champion, so he had to be smarter. Knowing it was Freese you are going to pass full throttle round the outside...
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Tumic 2/6/2022 3:14am
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matze wrote:
I was wondering about that as well, altough I take a different conclusion. Both incidents where complete intentional takeouts imo.
The Anderson Roczen could have been avoided if Anderson wanted to. Since it was at the exit of the turn, Anderson could have let off a little bit and no contact would have been made. But since he was on the inside, no fucks were given.

Friese and Craig was at the entering of the corner and Friese put them both in a situation where Craig had to braks or else. With the entering speed Friese had, that could never have been avoided from his side.


Craig should be smarter when he picks his fights. Just like when Rossi accused Marquez to favour Lorenzo a couple of years ago, Marquez ended up sticking it to Rossi and then letting Lorenzo win the last race so Rossi lost the title.

I doubt that Craigs instagram pictures about Friese will do him any good.
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rileymx 2/6/2022 3:25am
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Tumic wrote:
So when Roczen opens the door and Anderson takes him out it’s okay and Ken should have known better. But when Craig goes in side by...
So when Roczen opens the door and Anderson takes him out it’s okay and Ken should have known better.

But when Craig goes in side by side on the outside Friese is the big cunt?

It’s clear that friese were thinking that craig would let of, but sure as hel that this take out was not intentional.

Craig needs to be smarter than that, just as Roczen should be smarter about his lines.
matze wrote:
I was wondering about that as well, altough I take a different conclusion. Both incidents where complete intentional takeouts imo.
The thing here is actions, Feld and Ama only take actions when it is of their interest.....some American racers have the right to take out oposition.....others get DQ .......and if it is the case of a Foreigner doing it, as it was the case of Ferrandis on Craig, he even got probation for the rest of the year and was "booed" and insulted by the public for a long time, but if it is an American going for the win, he is a national hero....racing incidente, take out, board actions, its all a question of who does it to who, americans will always cheat, its how they do it....
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jeffro503 2/6/2022 3:30am
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I'm cheering for Vince to do well , but damn that was a bone head move.
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