When Men were Men.....🤠

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When I was in 5th grade, the Science teacher showed us a a video of a white coated guy extinguishing his lit cigarette
in a beaker of gasoline.

I dont remember what the lesson was but after starting brush piles with gasoline, I knew I was never going to try it.
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Fire triangle

Remove any 1 of the 3 and there is no fire
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12/6/2021 5:41pm
brocster wrote:
Fire triangle

Remove any 1 of the 3 and there is no fire
Yes- that's maybe a better way to understand it... fairly simple really.

...or add the missing element to the other 2 elements and there IS an ignited fire or the high potential of one ... as that video doesn't portrait as it is not moving(adding) enough air or oxygen.

Well regarding the pic maybe he never even had the fag alight anyway.
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12/6/2021 7:07pm Edited Date/Time 12/22/2023 3:58am
You guys are so dramatic!! A cigarette will not ignite gasoline! Go try it- pour yourself a small pan of petrol, take a kit cigarette snd...
You guys are so dramatic!! A cigarette will not ignite gasoline!

Go try it- pour yourself a small pan of petrol, take a kit cigarette snd go ahead snd stub it out straight in to it.

No dramas!
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Possibly so- but its the vapours of rising into the air whilst pouring the fuel- that's the big danger- becomes like a gas and much more...
Possibly so- but its the vapours of rising into the air whilst pouring the fuel- that's the big danger- becomes like a gas and much more volatile- BANG!

My close friend was topping up his genset with gasoline with a smoke in his beak. I warned him of the possible dangers. He reckoned nope, a cigarette cannot start a fire.

I mentioned yeah its been known to stub a smoke out in gasoline without dire consequences. I started telling him about fuel vapour....

......i wasn't even finished preaching and WOOOOOOF...a cloud of flame scortched his hands, arms, face and eye brows shivelled up.

Don't fuck around trying to the man....it can come back to bite you.

He is a believer now.. People do it all the time but it just takes that one perfect moment and things can go wrong quickly.

Why risk it?

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12/6/2021 7:33pm Edited Date/Time 12/6/2021 8:38pm
EXACTLY Boom...this is the danger as I'm trying to explain...

... to elaborate further- is an old Classic car restorer here aged like 70 years old, he has seen years and decades of experience- is a neighbour- told me similar horror stories with petrol- not just fires but kind of explosions even- mixing the air is the big one. Ain't just a fire but like an explosion, its the rising vapours.

When cars crash etc... fuel tanks catch alight... isn't so much the initial fire of the fuel burning but its the vapours when the fuel runs out ... then the tanks actually explode- gases/ vapours.

Same as your bike engine, mixing air with fuel and a spark! ... combined with compression to accelerate the air and compress it. Amazed really at the stupidity of those videos. I wouldn't mess with it or test the theory out!

Pouring gas into tank will create rising vapours as Boom has perfectly described and the possible consequences, amazed people have debated this isn't the case (and haven't had a big shock! .. or worse...)
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Boomslang wrote:
My close friend was topping up his genset with gasoline with a smoke in his beak. I warned him of the possible dangers. He reckoned nope...

My close friend was topping up his genset with gasoline with a smoke in his beak. I warned him of the possible dangers. He reckoned nope, a cigarette cannot start a fire.

I mentioned yeah its been known to stub a smoke out in gasoline without dire consequences. I started telling him about fuel vapour....

......i wasn't even finished preaching and WOOOOOOF...a cloud of flame scortched his hands, arms, face and eye brows shivelled up.

Don't fuck around trying to the man....it can come back to bite you.

He is a believer now.. People do it all the time but it just takes that one perfect moment and things can go wrong quickly.

Why risk it?

Yea I find it amusing with all these stories of it's no big deal to have a cigarette around gas.

If anyone was at the SoCal Moto tracks during the 70's and 80's they might remember a midget mechanic by the name of Billy Keefer. I know he wrenched for Rick Maki and a few other local fast guys.

He was quite a character and lived in my hometown.
Anyway I was over at his house one day and he was in the backyard working on bikes.
He calmly lit a cigarette with a match and said watch this and threw the match in a bucket of gas that I was standing a few feet away from! Woohoo

I did not even have time to react and just go what the fuck and he had quite the chuckle. Laughing

I'm sure this was a regular prank of his!

But yeah I'm from the old school and I don't fuck around when it comes to gas and Ignition devices.
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12/6/2021 9:34pm Edited Date/Time 12/6/2021 9:36pm
Those videos posted of Barry Sheene were very cool.
Remember aged like 7 went to Road race in Kent - England. - Sheene won. He did interview and got me and my sister involved- called us upto him for the interview....sat my Sis aged like 9 on his lap - and put his arms around me and chatted to me as he did the interview- told everyone he was 'my mate' and kept hugging and patting me as he spoke. Was very inspiring as a very young rider myself.

Barry seemed a lovely guy. He was abit like VR46, albeit 1976!
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First page was better you ninnies!
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12/6/2021 10:30pm Edited Date/Time 12/10/2021 9:13pm
Totally agree! (now the kind of negative posts and input has been removed! )
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Am I the only one thinkin that its not a cigarette
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All this talk about whether the cigarette is lit or not, fire triangle blah blah blah and not one mention of the badassary of McQueen in this picture. Woohoo
Does anyone else see it? 👀

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......sheep were nervous.
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these MEN racing on the old bikes are so awesome and badass, I raced my 73 ricky (profile pic) at the highpoint GP in sept and pretty much my whole body was crushed haha. i respect these men and how fast they were able to go (modern bikes are so much better)
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12/8/2021 7:44am Edited Date/Time 12/11/2021 10:50am
OK I guess nobody can see the awesomeness in McQueen's photo.

I do not see a kickstand that is down!
He is is riding that motorcycle side saddle with loafers on a movie set flipping people off! Laughing

I don't know about you but riding a big Thumper like that side saddle is something pretty badass! Cool
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I'm not sure it's so much of a "when men were men" thing, as much as it is a "when men knew nothing about nutrition" thing, but there's a scene in Todd Huffman's 1980 USGP movie where Andre Malherbe gets to his pit after a scorching hot 45 minute moto and upends a bottle of Coke like it was an ice cold glass of high quality H2O.
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tmphotoart wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/12/07/521672/s1200_1954_British_Grand_National_Scramble_004_mortons.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/12/07/521673/s1200_196_ACUs_Eddie_Davidson_team_manager_Haines_then_Les_Archer_John_Burton_Don_Rickman_Dave_Curtis_and_Jeff_Smith_004_mortons.jpg[/img]


''We are testing new air forks'', ''suspension felt too stiff'', yeah yeah, hold my beer...
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Vital: men were men and drinking and smoking before riding is cool..
Also vital: JLaw is an idiot
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ajv#26 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/12/06/521422/s1200_6268046670_3008057e40_b.jpg[/img]

The idiots downvoting this don’t know what’s going on in this picture
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Boomslang wrote:
Nothing needs to be said.... [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/12/06/521447/s1200_117997148_10222215725878426_3955165174523020219_n.jpg[/img]
Nothing needs to be said....


This dude's riding style was clearly influenced by having nads too heavy to allow him to stand.
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G-man wrote:
Yea I find it amusing with all these stories of it's no big deal to have a cigarette around gas. If anyone was at the SoCal...
Yea I find it amusing with all these stories of it's no big deal to have a cigarette around gas.

If anyone was at the SoCal Moto tracks during the 70's and 80's they might remember a midget mechanic by the name of Billy Keefer. I know he wrenched for Rick Maki and a few other local fast guys.

He was quite a character and lived in my hometown.
Anyway I was over at his house one day and he was in the backyard working on bikes.
He calmly lit a cigarette with a match and said watch this and threw the match in a bucket of gas that I was standing a few feet away from! Woohoo

I did not even have time to react and just go what the fuck and he had quite the chuckle. Laughing

I'm sure this was a regular prank of his!

But yeah I'm from the old school and I don't fuck around when it comes to gas and Ignition devices.
Recall an article bitd in minicycle /bmx action of Keefer’s bitchin personal Honda MR50. Made me wish I was a midget.
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Vintage 2 vs. 4 stroke battle .
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12/10/2021 6:39pm Edited Date/Time 12/10/2021 6:50pm
ATKpilot99 wrote:
[embed][/embed] Vintage 2 vs. 4 stroke battle .


Vintage 2 vs. 4 stroke battle .
What an absolutely superb race- Never seen that one before and follow I alot of the old stuff! Super stuff!

Man- the speed they were hitting some of those bumps on those old bikes- amazing really.

Remember also Dave Bickers son, Paul, he was fast in like the mid 80's, think he had an exotic Mugen or maybe kit back in the day.
Also remember Vic Eastwood's lads- Mark and Scott. Raced them both a few times- similar regions.
Mark got very fast as he grew up, becoming a serious quick GP rider and contender.

Those Vic Eastwood Hagon framed bikes were very cool and exotic from back in the day, love these ex. riders with resources and shops who would mod bikes to their own specs back then!

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this thread delivers...
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ajv#26 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2021/12/06/521422/s1200_6268046670_3008057e40_b.jpg[/img]

luke11 wrote:
The idiots downvoting this don’t know what’s going on in this picture
Locked hips.
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I remember Ryan taping his broken leg to ride at 338. Badass!
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