Chad Reed on MXGP and Herlings

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Sandusky26 12/1/2021 10:17am
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Bidirella wrote:
I’m sorry Chad, but that’s allot of bullshit and stuff that’s not even true. As I’m talking about part 1 What did we learn? He didn’t...
I’m sorry Chad, but that’s allot of bullshit and stuff that’s not even true. As I’m talking about part 1

What did we learn? He didn’t even put close attention to the full season. He better could have shut his mouth.

You care about that Herlings guy that much?
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I don’t know Herlings is a beast! But we’ve seen what he can do in MXGP, it’s time for him one of the best to bring...
I don’t know Herlings is a beast! But we’ve seen what he can do in MXGP, it’s time for him one of the best to bring it state side and hit supercross and really prove himself. He has nothing left to prove in Europe, he needs to come and challenge himself in Supercross.
That's been said a million times...and the real answer is, "why"? It's the same answer when some say the US riders ought to go to the MXGP's and challenge themselves against arguably the best on the globe at outdoor motocross..."why"? Guys like Musquin, Roczen & Ferrandis have come here because they had a dream...winning an American championship. I might be wrong...but I doubt Jeffrey Herlings has that on his personal bucket list.
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jjavaman wrote:
In his prime reed would be getting lapped by Herlings.
He wasn't getting lapped by RC and Stew...
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KurtJ99 12/1/2021 10:59am
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
I disagree with him on not counting MX2 or lites titles as Chad calls them .
It's painful but I agree with Chad for what we have now.

Back in the 80s the classes were distinct, but generally the 500cc class was the premier title.
But I would NOT call Mark Barnett, Ward or O'Mara "lites" champions on 125cc.

Now it has been MX2 - 250 4T or what would have been 125 2T, with an age limit. So the premier class is MXGP - the remaining "big bore" class.

In the US while the AMA 250 championship remains a full national championship, the presence of the regional 250 SX (was "lites") class feels like it detracts from the standing of the outdoor 250 MX championship. Few have ambitions to stay in 250 class other than necessity.
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jjavaman wrote:
In his prime reed would be getting lapped by Herlings.
What have you been smoking?
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Sparkalounger 12/1/2021 11:03am
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Mugeneco wrote:
Reed is starting to sound like Matthes
If by that you mean "spot on" - Then I agree with you.
How could anyone refute what he said?
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jjavaman 12/1/2021 11:04am
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jjavaman wrote:
In his prime reed would be getting lapped by Herlings.
mx317 wrote:
What have you been smoking?
Good weed
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Sparkalounger 12/1/2021 11:05am
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stone881 wrote:
Reedy was always a favorite of mine, but he also shouldn't be considered one of the greatest. How many legit championships did he win? From my...
Reedy was always a favorite of mine, but he also shouldn't be considered one of the greatest. How many legit championships did he win? From my recollection, his top competitors were missing when his big bike championships happened. That being said, he did have to race two of the best that the sport has ever known and they owned him.
What does that have to do with his opinion on JH?
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KONG 12/1/2021 11:21am
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Reed doesn't like Herlings because he reminds him of Stew': so much better than him when he stays on two wheels.
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Park Boys 12/1/2021 11:35am
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davistld01 wrote:
That's been said a million times...and the real answer is, "why"? It's the same answer when some say the US riders ought to go to the...
That's been said a million times...and the real answer is, "why"? It's the same answer when some say the US riders ought to go to the MXGP's and challenge themselves against arguably the best on the globe at outdoor motocross..."why"? Guys like Musquin, Roczen & Ferrandis have come here because they had a dream...winning an American championship. I might be wrong...but I doubt Jeffrey Herlings has that on his personal bucket list.
Herlings grew up wanting to come to America, it changed after time away from home he said. More power to him, but he did want to come race in America at one point.
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Zycki11 wrote:
It doesn’t count, less competition as the best are in the 450.
Bidirella wrote:
The 450 winning days of Reed where weak as fuck. You don’t hear Reedy about that.
I don't think so. Reed made Carmichael literally cry as he beat him something like 8 Supercrosses in a row.
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Zycki11 12/1/2021 11:44am
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Zycki11 wrote:
It doesn’t count, less competition as the best are in the 450.
Bidirella wrote:
The 450 winning days of Reed where weak as fuck. You don’t hear Reedy about that.
Ok teenage girl. When did this become about chads winning days? He won 2003-20012 every year, then 14, and 15. So the years of RC, JS were weak? Or was it the RV, RD,JS, Years that were weak? Like I said emotional
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Zycki11 12/1/2021 11:47am
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
I disagree with him on not counting MX2 or lites titles as Chad calls them .
Zycki11 wrote:
It doesn’t count, less competition as the best are in the 450.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
125/250 regional SX titles are the only ones that don't count for major titles. World Titles absolutely count as well as AMA national titles.
Ohh so major titles are included huh? What about RC , MC, SE, and TC? 7 titles - 2. It’s not even close. Keep pushing hard but facts are facts and your feelings don’t matter
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Lucifa12345 12/1/2021 11:49am
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Zycki11 wrote:
It doesn’t count, less competition as the best are in the 450.
Bidirella wrote:
The 450 winning days of Reed where weak as fuck. You don’t hear Reedy about that.
Zycki11 wrote:
Ok teenage girl. When did this become about chads winning days? He won 2003-20012 every year, then 14, and 15. So the years of RC, JS...
Ok teenage girl. When did this become about chads winning days? He won 2003-20012 every year, then 14, and 15. So the years of RC, JS were weak? Or was it the RV, RD,JS, Years that were weak? Like I said emotional
He's talking about the year he won the 450 title. Weak as fuck.
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Zycki11 12/1/2021 11:51am
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davistld01 wrote:
That's been said a million times...and the real answer is, "why"? It's the same answer when some say the US riders ought to go to the...
That's been said a million times...and the real answer is, "why"? It's the same answer when some say the US riders ought to go to the MXGP's and challenge themselves against arguably the best on the globe at outdoor motocross..."why"? Guys like Musquin, Roczen & Ferrandis have come here because they had a dream...winning an American championship. I might be wrong...but I doubt Jeffrey Herlings has that on his personal bucket list.
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Herlings grew up wanting to come to America, it changed after time away from home he said. More power to him, but he did want to...
Herlings grew up wanting to come to America, it changed after time away from home he said. More power to him, but he did want to come race in America at one point.
Or that he couldn’t get through the whoops and made a smart decision.
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CPR 12/1/2021 11:56am
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For those trying to turn Reedy’s opinion around by attacking his own results- usually you attack the person instead of the subject when your own argument is weak……

As for his opinion- it sounds to me as he’s referring to GPs only, not AMA, so yeah Herling’s 2 titles don’t quite stack up against greats like Cairoli and Everts, but as the man said “yet”!
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King_George_III 12/1/2021 11:58am
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Well I've learnt one thing from this thread, If a teenage pro crashes in a set of supercross whoops they should give up.
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Zycki11 12/1/2021 12:05pm
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Bidirella wrote:
The 450 winning days of Reed where weak as fuck. You don’t hear Reedy about that.
Zycki11 wrote:
Ok teenage girl. When did this become about chads winning days? He won 2003-20012 every year, then 14, and 15. So the years of RC, JS...
Ok teenage girl. When did this become about chads winning days? He won 2003-20012 every year, then 14, and 15. So the years of RC, JS were weak? Or was it the RV, RD,JS, Years that were weak? Like I said emotional
Lucifa12345 wrote:
He's talking about the year he won the 450 title. Weak as fuck.
03 yes I know the season. Right after Chad stuck it to RC his rookie year winning majority of the races. So RC went and had his knee worked on to prepare for outdoors and Chad waxed everybody.
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Johnny Ringo 12/1/2021 12:06pm
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King_George_III wrote:
Well I've learnt one thing from this thread, If a teenage pro crashes in a set of supercross whoops they should give up.
Well…he did…didn’t he?
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ATKpilot99 12/1/2021 12:08pm
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Zycki11 wrote:
It doesn’t count, less competition as the best are in the 450.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
125/250 regional SX titles are the only ones that don't count for major titles. World Titles absolutely count as well as AMA national titles.
Zycki11 wrote:
Ohh so major titles are included huh? What about RC , MC, SE, and TC? 7 titles - 2. It’s not even close. Keep pushing hard...
Ohh so major titles are included huh? What about RC , MC, SE, and TC? 7 titles - 2. It’s not even close. Keep pushing hard but facts are facts and your feelings don’t matter
You feel very strongly about this don't you ? You're taking it personally.
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ATKpilot99 12/1/2021 12:10pm
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Zycki11 wrote:
It doesn’t count, less competition as the best are in the 450.
Bidirella wrote:
The 450 winning days of Reed where weak as fuck. You don’t hear Reedy about that.
Radical wrote:
I don't think so. Reed made Carmichael literally cry as he beat him something like 8 Supercrosses in a row.
He literally cried ? Like you saw him crying ? People literally throw the word literally around way too much.
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Mugeneco 12/1/2021 12:11pm
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already looking forward to MXON next year
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Johnny Ringo 12/1/2021 12:12pm
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Mugeneco wrote:
already looking forward to MXON next year
Me too, maybe Anderson will be on the team again and beat him like he did in 2016…man the fish are biting today
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Mugeneco 12/1/2021 12:14pm
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Me too, maybe Anderson will be on the team again and beat him like he did in 2016…man the fish are biting today
selective memory is a great thing to have it seems
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SonofThor32 12/1/2021 12:15pm
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It is mildly frustrating (and a double edged sword) to declare Herling's title this year was due to team tactics. Everyone forgets the injuries (some pretty big) Herlings sustained this year, some due to other's mistakes. He also missed races - massive points lost, yet he still came back to win the title where others never missed a moto.

I know he got a couple free points this year that IMO any other team would have done the same, but you can't take away the effort and shit he had to endure to get the crown. That and his speed puts him on the level he deserves, and the asterisks folks are trying to add to his title this year is pretty lame.
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Johnny Ringo 12/1/2021 12:43pm
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Johnny Ringo wrote:
Me too, maybe Anderson will be on the team again and beat him like he did in 2016…man the fish are biting today
Mugeneco wrote:
selective memory is a great thing to have it seems
So Jason didn’t win the first Moto? Huh
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