2022 CRF250R

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11/8/2021 5:44am
wrc777 wrote:
I have a one piece mount. It is not where the twisting is happening. I think it is mostly the fork lugs.
Yes but your one piece mount is probably fixed on rubber mounts inside the triple clamps. I had the exact same problems on my sxf 2016...
Yes but your one piece mount is probably fixed on rubber mounts inside the triple clamps.

I had the exact same problems on my sxf 2016 and zera aluminum mounts fixed the problem
wrc777 wrote:
So the aluminum cones kept the upper and lower triple clamps from twisting relative to each other?
My buddy tried the aluminum cones on his 22 and they still twisted. He's now trying the Luxon bar mounts with the sold top piece.
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Yes but your one piece mount is probably fixed on rubber mounts inside the triple clamps. I had the exact same problems on my sxf 2016...
Yes but your one piece mount is probably fixed on rubber mounts inside the triple clamps.

I had the exact same problems on my sxf 2016 and zera aluminum mounts fixed the problem
wrc777 wrote:
So the aluminum cones kept the upper and lower triple clamps from twisting relative to each other?
My buddy tried the aluminum cones on his 22 and they still twisted. He's now trying the Luxon bar mounts with the sold top piece.
I have the Luxon mount with rubber cones. I am about to crank the fork lug bolts because I think that is where it is twisting. The Luxon mount does keep the bars from twisting.

At this point as much as I like the engine I am thinking about going back to GasGas. I just don't really want to drop the coin to do it. Ironically the harsh fork keeps getting better the more I ride it and tune it.

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11/8/2021 7:17am
wrc777 wrote:
So the aluminum cones kept the upper and lower triple clamps from twisting relative to each other?
My buddy tried the aluminum cones on his 22 and they still twisted. He's now trying the Luxon bar mounts with the sold top piece.
wrc777 wrote:
I have the Luxon mount with rubber cones. I am about to crank the fork lug bolts because I think that is where it is twisting...
I have the Luxon mount with rubber cones. I am about to crank the fork lug bolts because I think that is where it is twisting. The Luxon mount does keep the bars from twisting.

At this point as much as I like the engine I am thinking about going back to GasGas. I just don't really want to drop the coin to do it. Ironically the harsh fork keeps getting better the more I ride it and tune it.
Factory Connection revalved my bike and it is MONEY now.
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11/18/2021 10:03am
Any try a 110 on the stock rim?
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11/18/2021 11:39am Edited Date/Time 11/18/2021 11:41am
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mxb2 wrote:
Fork stickersCool Cool
I think they have been revalved by BMOKS Whistling
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11/18/2021 4:47pm
Any try a 110 on the stock rim?
My buddy had a 110 Pirelli Scorpion MX32 Mid-Soft rear tire installed on his '22 CRF250R. He also had Brad Buckner (Monkey Wrench MX/TBT Racing Ohio) re-do the suspension on their '22 CRF250R. My buddy, his son, and myself all rode his '22 CRF250R back to back with my stock '22 CRF250R. The TBT Racing re-valve on the suspension was money well spent with much better bump absorption, comfort in the forks, and so much more planted all around the old school GP track we were riding - huge improvement over the stock setting. The 110 width rear Pirelli Scorpion MX32 had better traction pretty much everywhere with no extra weight/inertia feeling that I noticed. Picture below is the bike with the 110 rear tire......


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11/18/2021 5:26pm
Any try a 110 on the stock rim?
My buddy had a 110 Pirelli Scorpion MX32 Mid-Soft rear tire installed on his '22 CRF250R. He also had Brad Buckner (Monkey Wrench MX/TBT Racing Ohio)...
My buddy had a 110 Pirelli Scorpion MX32 Mid-Soft rear tire installed on his '22 CRF250R. He also had Brad Buckner (Monkey Wrench MX/TBT Racing Ohio) re-do the suspension on their '22 CRF250R. My buddy, his son, and myself all rode his '22 CRF250R back to back with my stock '22 CRF250R. The TBT Racing re-valve on the suspension was money well spent with much better bump absorption, comfort in the forks, and so much more planted all around the old school GP track we were riding - huge improvement over the stock setting. The 110 width rear Pirelli Scorpion MX32 had better traction pretty much everywhere with no extra weight/inertia feeling that I noticed. Picture below is the bike with the 110 rear tire......


It even looks better with the 110 tire. That and suspension would be my first upgrades if I were to purchase this bike.
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11/19/2021 3:20am
Yeah I’m wondering if it’s worth it to get a 2.15 wheel, or just run the 110 on the stock rim.
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My bike finally landed and I was able to pick her up and start fitting some parts. Super keen to ride tomorrow.
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11/19/2021 6:03am
Any try a 110 on the stock rim?
My buddy had a 110 Pirelli Scorpion MX32 Mid-Soft rear tire installed on his '22 CRF250R. He also had Brad Buckner (Monkey Wrench MX/TBT Racing Ohio)...
My buddy had a 110 Pirelli Scorpion MX32 Mid-Soft rear tire installed on his '22 CRF250R. He also had Brad Buckner (Monkey Wrench MX/TBT Racing Ohio) re-do the suspension on their '22 CRF250R. My buddy, his son, and myself all rode his '22 CRF250R back to back with my stock '22 CRF250R. The TBT Racing re-valve on the suspension was money well spent with much better bump absorption, comfort in the forks, and so much more planted all around the old school GP track we were riding - huge improvement over the stock setting. The 110 width rear Pirelli Scorpion MX32 had better traction pretty much everywhere with no extra weight/inertia feeling that I noticed. Picture below is the bike with the 110 rear tire......


I have the R and the RX and the R was way too stiff for me. The R with the RX suspension on it is better for the track for me and still needs a revalve for just woods riding to reduce harshness. Factory Connection revalved mine and it's extremely good now.
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Yeah I’m wondering if it’s worth it to get a 2.15 wheel, or just run the 110 on the stock rim.
Run the 110 on the stock rim, works good. Spare set of wheels are always nice tho Silly
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Beautiful bikes fellas but are yous all taking your bikes into the upside down to have your fork stickers fitted?! Huh Silly
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GaryC1 wrote:
Beautiful bikes fellas but are yous all taking your bikes into the upside down to have your fork stickers fitted?! Huh Silly
They are just living other side of world where everything is upside down.
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11/22/2021 7:58pm
30hr update. Son racing usually top of B and schoolboy locally. Engine has been rock solid though the idle needs to be adjusted every ride depending on air temp. He bent the hell out of the subframe and exhaust in the first 5 hours in a decent crash. Nothing crazy. Took 2 months to find a new subframe and still can't get a damn exhaust for this bike.

Everytime he has a simple tip over I have to pull the front apart and readjust everything including bar mounts. Growing very tired of that and have new bar mounts coming. Had small crash yesterday and dented the hell out of the fuel tank. Going to be $1k + in 2 average crashes so far.

I get these new bikes are light, but damn its adding up. Sending the suspension out next week for a rebuild and revalve.



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DD325 wrote:
30hr update. Son racing usually top of B and schoolboy locally. Engine has been rock solid though the idle needs to be adjusted every ride depending...
30hr update. Son racing usually top of B and schoolboy locally. Engine has been rock solid though the idle needs to be adjusted every ride depending on air temp. He bent the hell out of the subframe and exhaust in the first 5 hours in a decent crash. Nothing crazy. Took 2 months to find a new subframe and still can't get a damn exhaust for this bike.

Everytime he has a simple tip over I have to pull the front apart and readjust everything including bar mounts. Growing very tired of that and have new bar mounts coming. Had small crash yesterday and dented the hell out of the fuel tank. Going to be $1k + in 2 average crashes so far.

I get these new bikes are light, but damn its adding up. Sending the suspension out next week for a rebuild and revalve.



So you have the forks twisting in the clamps on minor tip overs too? Your kid isn’t the type that can break an anvil with a rubber hammer is he?
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DD325 wrote:
30hr update. Son racing usually top of B and schoolboy locally. Engine has been rock solid though the idle needs to be adjusted every ride depending...
30hr update. Son racing usually top of B and schoolboy locally. Engine has been rock solid though the idle needs to be adjusted every ride depending on air temp. He bent the hell out of the subframe and exhaust in the first 5 hours in a decent crash. Nothing crazy. Took 2 months to find a new subframe and still can't get a damn exhaust for this bike.

Everytime he has a simple tip over I have to pull the front apart and readjust everything including bar mounts. Growing very tired of that and have new bar mounts coming. Had small crash yesterday and dented the hell out of the fuel tank. Going to be $1k + in 2 average crashes so far.

I get these new bikes are light, but damn its adding up. Sending the suspension out next week for a rebuild and revalve.



wrc777 wrote:
So you have the forks twisting in the clamps on minor tip overs too? Your kid isn’t the type that can break an anvil with a...
So you have the forks twisting in the clamps on minor tip overs too? Your kid isn’t the type that can break an anvil with a rubber hammer is he?
Yes, forks too. Kinda crazy. That may be the perfect description of my son. 😂

Rode other bikes for years with little issue, but he grew a foot taller and put on about 25lbs over the summer. Oh, and got a heck of a lot faster.
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11/25/2021 8:29pm
So is just about everyone experiencing the front end getting twisted up in tip overs or very minor crashes? Sounds like design flaw if so.

Is it just the bar mounts twisting here? The clamps? I think one guy was suggesting that the lower tubes were moving within the fork lugs.Unsure

This is UNSAT.
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So is just about everyone experiencing the front end getting twisted up in tip overs or very minor crashes? Sounds like design flaw if so. Is...
So is just about everyone experiencing the front end getting twisted up in tip overs or very minor crashes? Sounds like design flaw if so.

Is it just the bar mounts twisting here? The clamps? I think one guy was suggesting that the lower tubes were moving within the fork lugs.Unsure

This is UNSAT.
Has it happened to you? The design is the same as the 450r so it is either bad luck or something was machined out of spec.
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So is just about everyone experiencing the front end getting twisted up in tip overs or very minor crashes? Sounds like design flaw if so. Is...
So is just about everyone experiencing the front end getting twisted up in tip overs or very minor crashes? Sounds like design flaw if so.

Is it just the bar mounts twisting here? The clamps? I think one guy was suggesting that the lower tubes were moving within the fork lugs.Unsure

This is UNSAT.
I cant even remember my last tipover or crash but i have zero complaints about my -21 450
12/2/2021 6:44am
So is just about everyone experiencing the front end getting twisted up in tip overs or very minor crashes? Sounds like design flaw if so. Is...
So is just about everyone experiencing the front end getting twisted up in tip overs or very minor crashes? Sounds like design flaw if so.

Is it just the bar mounts twisting here? The clamps? I think one guy was suggesting that the lower tubes were moving within the fork lugs.Unsure

This is UNSAT.
wrc777 wrote:
Has it happened to you? The design is the same as the 450r so it is either bad luck or something was machined out of spec.
It has not happened to me as I have yet to receive my bike. I'm just trying to get some additional feedback on the issue as it appears to be more than an isolated incident.

Re-aligning the front end at the track as a result of a simple tip-over is super annoying to me. PITA... I'll take the necessary precautions to alleviate the issue if I can.

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12/2/2021 6:56am
So is just about everyone experiencing the front end getting twisted up in tip overs or very minor crashes? Sounds like design flaw if so. Is...
So is just about everyone experiencing the front end getting twisted up in tip overs or very minor crashes? Sounds like design flaw if so.

Is it just the bar mounts twisting here? The clamps? I think one guy was suggesting that the lower tubes were moving within the fork lugs.Unsure

This is UNSAT.
sounds like you crashed and bent the triple clamp handlebar holder. $32 and its fixed
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So is just about everyone experiencing the front end getting twisted up in tip overs or very minor crashes? Sounds like design flaw if so. Is...
So is just about everyone experiencing the front end getting twisted up in tip overs or very minor crashes? Sounds like design flaw if so.

Is it just the bar mounts twisting here? The clamps? I think one guy was suggesting that the lower tubes were moving within the fork lugs.Unsure

This is UNSAT.
lumpy790 wrote:
sounds like you crashed and bent the triple clamp handlebar holder. $32 and its fixed
We are talking about the upper and lower triple clamp and fork lugs getting out of alignment. You have to loosen all those bolts and retorque so no cost involved but time.

The last time I straightened mine I cleaned and did not grease the big end of the axle and so far so good. I also cleaned the clamping surface on forks and clamps but they were not dirty so I am not sure if that helped. I also cranked down on the axle nut quite a bit.
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12/2/2021 7:46am
So is just about everyone experiencing the front end getting twisted up in tip overs or very minor crashes? Sounds like design flaw if so. Is...
So is just about everyone experiencing the front end getting twisted up in tip overs or very minor crashes? Sounds like design flaw if so.

Is it just the bar mounts twisting here? The clamps? I think one guy was suggesting that the lower tubes were moving within the fork lugs.Unsure

This is UNSAT.
lumpy790 wrote:
sounds like you crashed and bent the triple clamp handlebar holder. $32 and its fixed
wrc777 wrote:
We are talking about the upper and lower triple clamp and fork lugs getting out of alignment. You have to loosen all those bolts and retorque...
We are talking about the upper and lower triple clamp and fork lugs getting out of alignment. You have to loosen all those bolts and retorque so no cost involved but time.

The last time I straightened mine I cleaned and did not grease the big end of the axle and so far so good. I also cleaned the clamping surface on forks and clamps but they were not dirty so I am not sure if that helped. I also cranked down on the axle nut quite a bit.
Yep correct. This is NOT an issue with a bent component.

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