How will the 4 stroke MX community survive?

dcg141
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Edited Date/Time 11/14/2021 4:06am
Not much Rotella out there...I own a NAPA also and I was able to get a pallet load 2 weeks ago but none left at any wholesalers. What is on the shelves out there is all there is right now and that's not much. Might have to buy some actual MC oil.
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Sandusky26
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11/11/2021 4:32pm
Im gonna siphon it from my neighbors duramax.
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Broseph
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11/11/2021 4:35pm
No Rotella? That means I’m out of engine oil, trans oil, fork oil, shock oil, air filter oil, personal lubricant, and cologne. Might be a long winter…
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KTM831
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11/11/2021 4:47pm
Sandusky26 wrote:
Im gonna siphon it from my neighbors duramax.
It’s too late it’s now black paint
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byke
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11/11/2021 5:03pm
It's weird because oil & gas has always been such a stable industry.

Said no one that's ever worked in oil & gas.
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11/11/2021 5:27pm
byke wrote:
It's weird because oil & gas has always been such a stable industry.

Said no one that's ever worked in oil & gas.
I agree with its instability, but turning everything off isn't a good plan.

Remember when we were energy independent a year ago?
Now here we are begging OPEC to send more oil.

Don't sound right to me.
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JM485
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11/11/2021 6:00pm
byke wrote:
It's weird because oil & gas has always been such a stable industry.

Said no one that's ever worked in oil & gas.
There is no way that anyone can objectively say that decisions made in the last 8 months haven’t contributed greatly to shortages and rising energy costs.
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11/11/2021 6:37pm
byke wrote:
It's weird because oil & gas has always been such a stable industry.

Said no one that's ever worked in oil & gas.
JM485 wrote:
There is no way that anyone can objectively say that decisions made in the last 8 months haven’t contributed greatly to shortages and rising energy costs.
You obviously don't understand that markets run off speculation!
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Spudnut
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11/11/2021 8:11pm
There’s always Delo 400!! 🤠
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11/11/2021 8:30pm
Spudnut wrote:
There’s always Delo 400!! 🤠
That's what I use...
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toomanykaws
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11/11/2021 9:35pm
TSC or tractor supply has 15-40 diesel oil. Five gallon buckets. Have used it for years in place of Rotella. Excellent oil.
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11/11/2021 10:01pm
Man, I remember when I was about 13 yrs old. There was gas for my KX80 but no 2-stroke oil left in our garage. The oldman and ol lady were at work and I had no money for oil.

My oldman got home that afternoon with some 2-stroke oil. When he walked into the garage he said something to the tune of WTF?? He could smell the bike right away and was ready to throttle my neck.

Desperate to ride I mixed a 5liter gas with cooking oil and got my afternoons ride in without blowing the thing up. I vaguely remember the smell of fish n chips.

The oldman let it slide and I think he was rather chuffed at my commitment to get my pratice in. He is 85 yrs old now and its one of his favourate stories.

Can't comment on the shortage of Rotella and wont recommend cooking oil but im sure you guys will make a plan.

12 ripe bananas in the blender may suffice Whistling
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Austin_Rankin
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11/11/2021 11:03pm
I use silicone oil in all my engines havent for years.
Broseph
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11/12/2021 12:06am
I use silicone oil in all my engines havent for years.
Give that tired engine a little extra bounce eh?
FWYT
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11/12/2021 12:42am
Hahahahahaaa. Man, that whole Rotella discussion stuff is so weird. Like how the hell did that start? Did a bunch of Area 51ers or Dungeon and Dragons people start some secret club and Rotella was the password?
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11/12/2021 1:10am
FWYT wrote:
Hahahahahaaa. Man, that whole Rotella discussion stuff is so weird. Like how the hell did that start? Did a bunch of Area 51ers or Dungeon and...
Hahahahahaaa. Man, that whole Rotella discussion stuff is so weird. Like how the hell did that start? Did a bunch of Area 51ers or Dungeon and Dragons people start some secret club and Rotella was the password?
.....blame Covid. No?
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Sandusky26
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11/12/2021 2:09am
FWYT wrote:
Hahahahahaaa. Man, that whole Rotella discussion stuff is so weird. Like how the hell did that start? Did a bunch of Area 51ers or Dungeon and...
Hahahahahaaa. Man, that whole Rotella discussion stuff is so weird. Like how the hell did that start? Did a bunch of Area 51ers or Dungeon and Dragons people start some secret club and Rotella was the password?
If people didn’t bitch about Rotella, I would never use it.
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FWYT
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11/12/2021 7:13am
FWYT wrote:
Hahahahahaaa. Man, that whole Rotella discussion stuff is so weird. Like how the hell did that start? Did a bunch of Area 51ers or Dungeon and...
Hahahahahaaa. Man, that whole Rotella discussion stuff is so weird. Like how the hell did that start? Did a bunch of Area 51ers or Dungeon and Dragons people start some secret club and Rotella was the password?
Boomslang wrote:
.....blame Covid. No?
I would but it has been going on before that. So strange!

Stay well, Boom!!
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11/12/2021 7:20am
FWYT wrote:
Hahahahahaaa. Man, that whole Rotella discussion stuff is so weird. Like how the hell did that start? Did a bunch of Area 51ers or Dungeon and...
Hahahahahaaa. Man, that whole Rotella discussion stuff is so weird. Like how the hell did that start? Did a bunch of Area 51ers or Dungeon and Dragons people start some secret club and Rotella was the password?
Boomslang wrote:
.....blame Covid. No?
FWYT wrote:
I would but it has been going on before that. So strange!

Stay well, Boom!!
Thanks bud,

Anyone instered in Bananas from the Democratic Republic of the Congo? They are really good....
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ThePizzaCobra
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11/12/2021 7:38am
Sandusky26 wrote:
Im gonna siphon it from my neighbors duramax.
I realize this is a joke, but I don't think the oil siphoned out of a Duramax would be Rotella. Duramax's (at least mine) require a dexos2 oil (like Pennzoil Euro L), and I don't think Rotella has that certification. If it does, I'd be interested to know, because Rotella is much more widely available.

Without going down the wormhole of another oil thread, my only problem with Rotella in a dirt bike (primarily a KTM), is that the weight requirements don't match. Most KTMs are 10w-50/60, and Rotella doesn't make that. Jay from Dirt Bike TV runs Rotella in all of his KTMs without issue, but as revver on a 350, I have my apprehension running a 15w-40... surprised more people don't discuss this when endlessly debating oil.
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Last Braaap
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11/12/2021 7:47am
It has to be problem only on your side of pond. I got enough of rotella here
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Sandusky26
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11/12/2021 9:26am
Sandusky26 wrote:
Im gonna siphon it from my neighbors duramax.
I realize this is a joke, but I don't think the oil siphoned out of a Duramax would be Rotella. Duramax's (at least mine) require a...
I realize this is a joke, but I don't think the oil siphoned out of a Duramax would be Rotella. Duramax's (at least mine) require a dexos2 oil (like Pennzoil Euro L), and I don't think Rotella has that certification. If it does, I'd be interested to know, because Rotella is much more widely available.

Without going down the wormhole of another oil thread, my only problem with Rotella in a dirt bike (primarily a KTM), is that the weight requirements don't match. Most KTMs are 10w-50/60, and Rotella doesn't make that. Jay from Dirt Bike TV runs Rotella in all of his KTMs without issue, but as revver on a 350, I have my apprehension running a 15w-40... surprised more people don't discuss this when endlessly debating oil.
Sorry bro when it comes to Rotella I don’t fuck around.

My neighbor drives a Toyota, his name is Jim, and he is a prick.

So your correct, I won’t be siphoning Rotella.

All because fuckin dickhead Jim bought a Toyota.
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captmoto
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11/12/2021 9:28am
dcg141 wrote:
Not much Rotella out there...I own a NAPA also and I was able to get a pallet load 2 weeks ago but none left at any...
Not much Rotella out there...I own a NAPA also and I was able to get a pallet load 2 weeks ago but none left at any wholesalers. What is on the shelves out there is all there is right now and that's not much. Might have to buy some actual MC oil.
I blame the guys changing their oil after every practice and moto.
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Sandusky26
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11/12/2021 9:28am
I’d switch to KY jelly, but the Milk Man stopped by this morning and my ole lady used it all.
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ThePizzaCobra
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11/12/2021 10:05am
Sandusky26 wrote:
Im gonna siphon it from my neighbors duramax.
I realize this is a joke, but I don't think the oil siphoned out of a Duramax would be Rotella. Duramax's (at least mine) require a...
I realize this is a joke, but I don't think the oil siphoned out of a Duramax would be Rotella. Duramax's (at least mine) require a dexos2 oil (like Pennzoil Euro L), and I don't think Rotella has that certification. If it does, I'd be interested to know, because Rotella is much more widely available.

Without going down the wormhole of another oil thread, my only problem with Rotella in a dirt bike (primarily a KTM), is that the weight requirements don't match. Most KTMs are 10w-50/60, and Rotella doesn't make that. Jay from Dirt Bike TV runs Rotella in all of his KTMs without issue, but as revver on a 350, I have my apprehension running a 15w-40... surprised more people don't discuss this when endlessly debating oil.
Sandusky26 wrote:
Sorry bro when it comes to Rotella I don’t fuck around. My neighbor drives a Toyota, his name is Jim, and he is a prick. So...
Sorry bro when it comes to Rotella I don’t fuck around.

My neighbor drives a Toyota, his name is Jim, and he is a prick.

So your correct, I won’t be siphoning Rotella.

All because fuckin dickhead Jim bought a Toyota.
Fuckin’, Jim… He’s such a sack of shit 😂
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Sandusky26
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11/12/2021 10:14am
I realize this is a joke, but I don't think the oil siphoned out of a Duramax would be Rotella. Duramax's (at least mine) require a...
I realize this is a joke, but I don't think the oil siphoned out of a Duramax would be Rotella. Duramax's (at least mine) require a dexos2 oil (like Pennzoil Euro L), and I don't think Rotella has that certification. If it does, I'd be interested to know, because Rotella is much more widely available.

Without going down the wormhole of another oil thread, my only problem with Rotella in a dirt bike (primarily a KTM), is that the weight requirements don't match. Most KTMs are 10w-50/60, and Rotella doesn't make that. Jay from Dirt Bike TV runs Rotella in all of his KTMs without issue, but as revver on a 350, I have my apprehension running a 15w-40... surprised more people don't discuss this when endlessly debating oil.
Sandusky26 wrote:
Sorry bro when it comes to Rotella I don’t fuck around. My neighbor drives a Toyota, his name is Jim, and he is a prick. So...
Sorry bro when it comes to Rotella I don’t fuck around.

My neighbor drives a Toyota, his name is Jim, and he is a prick.

So your correct, I won’t be siphoning Rotella.

All because fuckin dickhead Jim bought a Toyota.
Fuckin’, Jim… He’s such a sack of shit 😂
His wife won't even look at me.

Her name is Goldie and she's kinda hot.

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Timo
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11/12/2021 10:56am
ATKpilot99 wrote:
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I like the 20w50 in the summer.

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11/12/2021 11:15am Edited Date/Time 11/12/2021 11:17am
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/global-oil-market-is-tight-desp…

LONDON, Oct 15 (Reuters) - Global petroleum inventories have fallen to their lowest seasonal level for seven years as producers have failed to raise output to match the rapid rebound in consumption since last year’s coronavirus-driven recession.

In contrast to shortages in coal, gas and electricity, the oil shortage is largely discretionary, as producers in the OPEC+ group of major exporting countries and U.S. shale firms have opted to limit increases in their output.

Major oil producers say they are not trying to raise prices but are worried about a potential future slowdown in consumption growth as a result of coronavirus flare ups.

But their actions are helping keep inventories below normal and imply they are happy with the rising trend in prices, which is also boosting revenues (https://tmsnrt.rs/3aGe0Kg).
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Bruce372
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11/12/2021 11:39am
Is this the same as rotella??



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byke
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11/12/2021 1:35pm Edited Date/Time 11/12/2021 1:36pm
byke wrote:
It's weird because oil & gas has always been such a stable industry.

Said no one that's ever worked in oil & gas.
JM485 wrote:
There is no way that anyone can objectively say that decisions made in the last 8 months haven’t contributed greatly to shortages and rising energy costs.
It always comes from decisions made in the last 8 months. Live long enough and you'll see that the the only thing that's actually new, is who's discovering it for the first time.
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