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So I'm 19 right I listen to all sorts of media content and all I hear about is how good local racing used to be. It really disappoints me how bad local racing is in my area. Now I've only been racing for about 3-4 years now I started late. I hear all about these raining facilities killing local racing and what not, but I don't believe that is the case. I believe these promoters aren't willing to change with the times and cater to the riders. They want to follow the same format as all the big amateur nationals and give everybody their own special class. Which in turn kills the number of riders on the gate and kills the turnout because the average guy doesn't want to watch 20-30 classes run in between their moto's.
Now the number of riders in the area isn't the problem anybody in the area knows that mid east, sorcs, nshca, and pretty much any offroad race will pull a great turnout no matter the conditions. Due to that fact that the schedule is very time friendly, real racing actually happens (not a 4 lapper where whoever gets the start and has half a brain wins), and did I mention its cheaper.
My question is at what point will some of these local motocross promoters get with the times and try different formats and try to cater to the riders. Or are some of these local promoters just going to be satisfied with sub par turnouts and everyone feeling like they paid too much and rode too little. Its not like a good high seat time format is impossible. I hear nothing but good things about the othg races and the old timers races that I hear keefer promoting all the time.
And just to be clear I did post a post like this on the South Carolina motocross Facebook page trying to get the attention of some of the promoters and pretty much what i got from the one promoter who decided to throw his 2 cents in was that its the riders duty to promote the race and they don't have the staff that a mid east or a sorcs type race has. Which I found to be a bit frustration and why I'm making this post
I really don't know why Im posting this, maybe it will make me feel better idk. But if any of you guys know mx promoters in the south east sc/ga/nc area some of us are really wanting a halfway decent local motocross series. Honestly I feel like im missing out along with many others. Ive gotten to race on real 30 min moto in my short racing career and there where only 5 dudes in it and it was the best time ever ever had doing a moto race.
Now the number of riders in the area isn't the problem anybody in the area knows that mid east, sorcs, nshca, and pretty much any offroad race will pull a great turnout no matter the conditions. Due to that fact that the schedule is very time friendly, real racing actually happens (not a 4 lapper where whoever gets the start and has half a brain wins), and did I mention its cheaper.
My question is at what point will some of these local motocross promoters get with the times and try different formats and try to cater to the riders. Or are some of these local promoters just going to be satisfied with sub par turnouts and everyone feeling like they paid too much and rode too little. Its not like a good high seat time format is impossible. I hear nothing but good things about the othg races and the old timers races that I hear keefer promoting all the time.
And just to be clear I did post a post like this on the South Carolina motocross Facebook page trying to get the attention of some of the promoters and pretty much what i got from the one promoter who decided to throw his 2 cents in was that its the riders duty to promote the race and they don't have the staff that a mid east or a sorcs type race has. Which I found to be a bit frustration and why I'm making this post
I really don't know why Im posting this, maybe it will make me feel better idk. But if any of you guys know mx promoters in the south east sc/ga/nc area some of us are really wanting a halfway decent local motocross series. Honestly I feel like im missing out along with many others. Ive gotten to race on real 30 min moto in my short racing career and there where only 5 dudes in it and it was the best time ever ever had doing a moto race.
In my opinion, trim it down to:
A
B
C
Vet
125 two stroke
Women's
85cc
65cc
50cc
Let the big bikes run two 15 minute motos + 1 lap.
The problem is all the promoters want the AMA sanctioned event which forces them to run all the other 20 classes
*Edit - forgot to include Women's class
I think a 2 day format could really work well. with maybe a 15 minute practice session and 2 20 minute motos. and maybe stagger them to where you are there no longer than 2.5-3 hours from when you do your first practice to your last moto. so maybe a 5 hour race day. Really all I want is a promoter to do something different. it blows me away how they can watch offroad run an event down the road with a 500 rider turnout and somehow thing the riders are the problem.
I don’t think 2-day formats would work well. You need to think about the average racer (or racing family) who are time crunched already and find it difficult to dedicate an entire Saturday or Sunday to be gone at the track. The off-road guys have it figured out...show up, run a short practice, race, out in 5 to 7 hours.
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The off-road community is proving the model works. I can’t understand why the moto community is so resistant to change.
I raced sportsman B at 3 of the gnccs last year. I lined up every weekend knowing I wasn’t going to win I was a 10-20th place guys in a class that always had 45-80 people. It was a blast. I feel like the only time the everyone needs their own class type deal rears it head is when there are 5 dudes on the gate and a speed difference will show. But make it 20 and chances are everyone will be battling and having a good time and won’t be thinking about being “competitive”
Most adult only events local to me will run expert/pro class, then A,B,C classes for the rest.
You get 15min timed practice/qualifying which they use to split you into groups A,B,C.
Then its 3 races per class, 15min motos for ABC & 20min for expert/pro.
each class is generally a full line up of 40 riders.
Youth events are generally split into 50cc, 65cc, 85cc small wheel, 85cc bigwheel (supermini) , youth 125/250f then normally and adult class of some sorts too.
Most classes will generally be full 40 rider gates or close too.
Never understand why you guys have to have sooo many classes in the states. It must suck racing against 5 people for just a few laps.
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I would like to try MX racing too, but I really don't want to sit around all day to run 2 10 minute races.
These are the local classes in south Ga/north Fl. Not sure you’ll get perfect structures but I think ama has the best classes.
Shouldn't be that hard....the Vet A guys are going to be up front during the moto, and then I would expect a few of the faster B guys to possibly mix in the with slower A guys and likewise with the fast and slow B-C guys. With this model, you have all the Vet guys racing at the same time so the time to get through the class is overall faster and the riders have more competition on the track to battle with. Win-win.
That would take a 125+ man starting gate since these are some of the highest rider entry classes. First corner would be gnarly and the scoring protests would be epic.
I'm game.
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