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Edited Date/Time 2/17/2021 9:05am
What the heck happened to this guys skills? He's the biggest fail this season. Dude looks like Dave Thorpe out there. How did it go so bad so fast?
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rmurray171 2/15/2021 11:14am
2/15/2021 11:14am
Jumped to 450 to early?
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dirtworldmx 2/15/2021 11:15am
2/15/2021 11:15am
Yeah, and he's on the best bike so that's certainly not the problem. He should be up there crushing it like all the other Suzuki's.
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soggy 2/15/2021 11:18am
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He should be making mains pretty easily I think. Possible he’s injured or the bike isn’t working that well for him. I’d guess he’s dealing with an injury
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Motofinne 2/15/2021 11:21am
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Moved up too early.

He got 2 SX podiums and 1 outdoor podium on a 250. Look at the 450 field, most of them are past 250 champions.
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Motofinne 2/15/2021 11:22am
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soggy wrote:
He should be making mains pretty easily I think. Possible he’s injured or the bike isn’t working that well for him. I’d guess he’s dealing with...
He should be making mains pretty easily I think. Possible he’s injured or the bike isn’t working that well for him. I’d guess he’s dealing with an injury
Matthes asked the team, not injured. Unless they straight up lied to him.
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4DAIVIPAI2K5 2/15/2021 11:23am
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Motofinne wrote:
Moved up too early. He got 2 SX podiums and 1 outdoor podium on a 250. Look at the 450 field, most of them are past...
Moved up too early.

He got 2 SX podiums and 1 outdoor podium on a 250. Look at the 450 field, most of them are past 250 champions.
I don't think it was too early. Just the last part of your Comment is on point
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yzf162 2/15/2021 11:32am
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Yeah I didn't think this move would work very well. He needs to be on 250's for another 2 years. I do think for him this is a eye opener for championship pace. But he could grow into the 450 class. The speed and skill set is there to build.
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downard254 2/15/2021 11:33am
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I was wondering about him just the other day myself. Didn't he win the Straight Rhythm a couple years ago. Either him or McElrath. They were both flying that year. He almost looks like a mid-pack 250 class rider right now, and I had some high hopes for him.

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Lightning78 2/15/2021 11:45am
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His drop off in the 450 class is insane he went from a Podium contending race winning 250 Rider to a writer that is in the 22 15th Place range and sometimes struggles to make Mains something is amiss here and I will tell you no prejudiced against Suzuki but his bike looks terrible on the track
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soggy 2/15/2021 11:49am
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downard254 wrote:
I was wondering about him just the other day myself. Didn't he win the Straight Rhythm a couple years ago. Either him or McElrath. They were...
I was wondering about him just the other day myself. Didn't he win the Straight Rhythm a couple years ago. Either him or McElrath. They were both flying that year. He almost looks like a mid-pack 250 class rider right now, and I had some high hopes for him.

He is/was a mid pack 250 rider
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Bidirella 2/15/2021 11:49am
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Why did he made the move to 450s? Is he pointed out?
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jamiechapman418 2/15/2021 11:49am
2/15/2021 11:49am
He is 5 races into his rookie 450 season! Give him a break. He started 250 supercross in 2018 and is now on 450s for 2021. That's not very long in 250s. He switched bike brands and classes. For him to stay healthy and off the couch is the main goal.
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Dirty Points 2/15/2021 11:50am
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450s are tough. Dude would prob be sitting 2nd or 3rd right now in 250 East with a podium nearly every race.

But even guys who regularly beat him in 250s like Ferrandis, McElrath, Sexton will probably have quite a few finishes in the teens.
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aeffertz 2/15/2021 11:55am
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Bidirella wrote:
Why did he made the move to 450s? Is he pointed out?
I’m pretty sure this was his only real offer at a paid ride.
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Xeno 2/15/2021 12:00pm
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I wish I rode like Dave Thorpe lol
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Bidirella wrote:
Why did he made the move to 450s? Is he pointed out?
Could've raced 250 this year, but probably didn't have a good ride lined up so took the 450 ride that was offered.
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ZOBITO 2/15/2021 12:06pm
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Who da f**k is that Hartraft guy?
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dirtworldmx 2/15/2021 12:59pm
2/15/2021 12:59pm
Maybe he needs to cut the track and run with the leaders a while like he did in 2018. That really gave him some confidence and showed everyone he's got the speed. Silly
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toroP 2/15/2021 12:59pm
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Pat, I’d like to buy an N.
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Markus422 2/15/2021 1:03pm
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Bro get him out there on that 2 stroke he rode at straight rhythm
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philG 2/15/2021 2:08pm
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Trickamoto wrote:
What the heck happened to this guys skills? He's the biggest fail this season. Dude looks like Dave Thorpe out there. How did it go so...
What the heck happened to this guys skills? He's the biggest fail this season. Dude looks like Dave Thorpe out there. How did it go so bad so fast?
Nothing, it just shows the real level of 250 regionals, racing half the people in half the races.

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Teejay 2/15/2021 2:13pm
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Xeno wrote:
I wish I rode like Dave Thorpe lol
Me too, still trying to work out why riding like Dave Thorpe is a bad thing.
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Xeno 2/15/2021 2:17pm
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Teejay wrote:
Me too, still trying to work out why riding like Dave Thorpe is a bad thing.
Don't think too much about it- this is Vital MX haha Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Mcflurry98 2/15/2021 2:17pm
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Did you eat paint chips as a kid?
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visser62 2/15/2021 2:35pm
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He doesn't look the same on the 450. He looked great last year. Right now in LCQs he's getting worked by Chiz, and Chiz would not have been getting podiums in the 250 class last year.
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ZOBITO 2/15/2021 3:26pm
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The curse of the yellow turd!!!
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JWACK 2/15/2021 3:34pm
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I think the HEP Suzuki’s setup is way way off.
Their suspension looks horrendous everywhere.
Hard to go fast when your riding a 4x4 post.
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Sully 2/15/2021 3:34pm
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downard254 wrote:
I was wondering about him just the other day myself. Didn't he win the Straight Rhythm a couple years ago. Either him or McElrath. They were...
I was wondering about him just the other day myself. Didn't he win the Straight Rhythm a couple years ago. Either him or McElrath. They were both flying that year. He almost looks like a mid-pack 250 class rider right now, and I had some high hopes for him.

soggy wrote:
He is/was a mid pack 250 rider
There was only 8 guys in 250W last season?
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foreman52 2/15/2021 3:39pm
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I feel for the guy. He 100% deserved a 250 ride and didn’t get it. The jump to 450 was too soon, but you got to go where the money is. I was really routing for him coming into the season, but this is basically where I expected him to be finishing.

The dude is not slow! The 450 class is just that goddamn fast with previous 250 champions and runner ups. Needless to say when your confidence is hurting as well (which I’m sure it is) your results will dwindle.

Would love to see him get a breakout ride around that 10-12th spot.
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visser62 2/15/2021 3:51pm
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People keep saying the 450 class is fast, and it is, but watch Hartranft ride. Clearly he isn't flowing and isn't comfortable or 100%. Maybe it's setup, but he really looks like he's fighting to get around the track. He can do better, and I hope he figures out whatever is bothering him.
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