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Forty 2/14/2021 4:19pm
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Kenny is as good as it gets right now but Webb can catch him..........KR has to ride a flawless rest of season...difficult
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toroP wrote:
Ken seemed a bit passive with Brayton. JB sat up to let Ken(or both) through, but Ken was following instead of setting up an inside pass...
Ken seemed a bit passive with Brayton.
JB sat up to let Ken(or both) through, but
Ken was following instead of setting up an inside pass. Webb was eager to pass and attacked the inside.
With speed and starts, this patient Roczen might find a title. Might.
I don't think you watched the race. He was aggressive with #10. The track did not lend itself to passing and there was little to separate the riders.

Smartest thing he could have done was what he did. You do not want to end on on that ground. It was rock hard clay and was tearing everybody up that hit it.

Webb did not make a mistake. Kenny was faster but making a few. Cooper also sucked wind in his heat race because passing was next to impossible.

You folks are really reaching and overthinking this.
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M1000 wrote:
Smart money is on Webb championship x2. Stamp it.
H4L wrote:
I’m not a gambling man, but I have $1K that says otherwise. How confident are you in your prediction ? Let me know..
Hell yes. Now we're getting somewhere.
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Cooptonite.
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str8line 2/14/2021 5:06pm
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toroP wrote:
Ken seemed a bit passive with Brayton. JB sat up to let Ken(or both) through, but Ken was following instead of setting up an inside pass...
Ken seemed a bit passive with Brayton.
JB sat up to let Ken(or both) through, but
Ken was following instead of setting up an inside pass. Webb was eager to pass and attacked the inside.
With speed and starts, this patient Roczen might find a title. Might.
LKHill wrote:
I don't think you watched the race. He was aggressive with #10. The track did not lend itself to passing and there was little to separate...
I don't think you watched the race. He was aggressive with #10. The track did not lend itself to passing and there was little to separate the riders.

Smartest thing he could have done was what he did. You do not want to end on on that ground. It was rock hard clay and was tearing everybody up that hit it.

Webb did not make a mistake. Kenny was faster but making a few. Cooper also sucked wind in his heat race because passing was next to impossible.

You folks are really reaching and overthinking this.
I think you're both right. There were a few corners where Ken could have possibly forced the issue on Brayton but it would have to have been a block pass and Cooper was right there. It was a tough track to pass on.

Brayton was fast for sure. Ken tried to get by him for several laps. But Ken kept closing up right on his wheel then having to fall back a little. Cooper meanwhile got right up to Ken a few times then would fall back a ways. But he seemed to catch back up to Ken quickly. Cooper's pass on Ken was a little similar to the Deano incident in terms of the actual pass. Brayton was inside at the end of the rhythm lane into the 90 degree and Ken was outside to try to carry momentum through the inside of the turn. But Ken almost ran into the back wheel of Brayton at the apex, was forced to go outside a little and Cooper started to come through the inside. Brayton faded outside going down the rhythm lane even looking over for Ken to come up the inside but Ken was stuck behind him and checked up on the triple and Cooper came through both of them. Great pass by Cooper and a tough moment for Ken. But before the pass even happened there were signs that Cooper had the measure of Ken so my money would have been on him getting by at some point anyways.

Hence, this thread about Kenny's Cooptonite. ^^^^^^thank you yota.


Oh, and thank you to whoever gave me that single upvote. I know you did it out of pity but I still appreciate it. I've been watching Stuart Smalley to try to raise my spirits.
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toroP wrote:
Ken seemed a bit passive with Brayton. JB sat up to let Ken(or both) through, but Ken was following instead of setting up an inside pass...
Ken seemed a bit passive with Brayton.
JB sat up to let Ken(or both) through, but
Ken was following instead of setting up an inside pass. Webb was eager to pass and attacked the inside.
With speed and starts, this patient Roczen might find a title. Might.
LKHill wrote:
I don't think you watched the race. He was aggressive with #10. The track did not lend itself to passing and there was little to separate...
I don't think you watched the race. He was aggressive with #10. The track did not lend itself to passing and there was little to separate the riders.

Smartest thing he could have done was what he did. You do not want to end on on that ground. It was rock hard clay and was tearing everybody up that hit it.

Webb did not make a mistake. Kenny was faster but making a few. Cooper also sucked wind in his heat race because passing was next to impossible.

You folks are really reaching and overthinking this.
Peculiar how Ken is always 'faster'. Even when he gets passed and beat.
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LKHill 2/14/2021 5:45pm
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Peculiar how Ken is always 'faster'. Even when he gets passed and beat.
Only peculiar how if you didn't watch the race.
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davistld01 2/14/2021 5:57pm
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If I’m Kenny...I’d know that every dog has his day. Id be happy that I salvaged points, and finished another race on the podium healthy & happy. Id be confident that I’m looking the best I’ve looked in three seasons, have a new baby & a beautiful wife...a wonderful family. Im living the dream. Cooper got the breaks he needed to win...but I’ll keep pushing, because it ain’t over yet. Life is good!
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toroP 2/14/2021 6:24pm
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toroP wrote:
Ken seemed a bit passive with Brayton. JB sat up to let Ken(or both) through, but Ken was following instead of setting up an inside pass...
Ken seemed a bit passive with Brayton.
JB sat up to let Ken(or both) through, but
Ken was following instead of setting up an inside pass. Webb was eager to pass and attacked the inside.
With speed and starts, this patient Roczen might find a title. Might.
LKHill wrote:
I don't think you watched the race. He was aggressive with #10. The track did not lend itself to passing and there was little to separate...
I don't think you watched the race. He was aggressive with #10. The track did not lend itself to passing and there was little to separate the riders.

Smartest thing he could have done was what he did. You do not want to end on on that ground. It was rock hard clay and was tearing everybody up that hit it.

Webb did not make a mistake. Kenny was faster but making a few. Cooper also sucked wind in his heat race because passing was next to impossible.

You folks are really reaching and overthinking this.
Not only did I watch the race, but I rewatched the pass. Which is what I was talking about.
If you watch again you’ll see JB open the door intentionally, and you’ll see who was in position to attack.
I’m pulling for Ken, he knows what he’s doing. The results show it. He seems intent on being fast and clean, and not pushing folks around. I hope he can win a title that way.
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TeamGreen 2/14/2021 6:31pm
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If I’m Kenny?

I’d maintain my Stoke and not change a F’ing Thing!

Silly

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str8line 2/14/2021 6:50pm
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TeamGreen wrote:
If I’m Kenny?

I’d maintain my Stoke and not change a F’ing Thing!

Silly

Easy to maintain your stoke when you have a challenge from various guys and usually come out on top. A little more challenging when it's Cooper and he's passed you twice to go on to win because you can't complete the pass on another rider. Gonna be a 15-round heavyweight bout and Cooper has a heavy hand. I think Kenny is in a pretty good place but he's a little wounded.
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2WheelPilot 2/14/2021 7:10pm
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toroP wrote:
Not only did I watch the race, but I rewatched the pass. Which is what I was talking about. If you watch again you’ll see JB...
Not only did I watch the race, but I rewatched the pass. Which is what I was talking about.
If you watch again you’ll see JB open the door intentionally, and you’ll see who was in position to attack.
I’m pulling for Ken, he knows what he’s doing. The results show it. He seems intent on being fast and clean, and not pushing folks around. I hope he can win a title that way.
Kenny is doing a Dungey. Coop is doing a Hannah. Historically, Hannah (who was known to push folks around) gets a lot more respect here than Dungey. But in this case, the "slow-n-steady" guy is the crowd favorite. I'm confused. Huh
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LKHill 2/15/2021 2:02am
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toroP wrote:
Not only did I watch the race, but I rewatched the pass. Which is what I was talking about. If you watch again you’ll see JB...
Not only did I watch the race, but I rewatched the pass. Which is what I was talking about.
If you watch again you’ll see JB open the door intentionally, and you’ll see who was in position to attack.
I’m pulling for Ken, he knows what he’s doing. The results show it. He seems intent on being fast and clean, and not pushing folks around. I hope he can win a title that way.
I agree 100%. Again the track looked super fun to ride but was not great for racing or passing. There was very little to separate the top guys other than track position. It was literately a meat grinder for anybody that hit the deck. Being there I was able to see all the riders that had anything other than a simple tip over where severely injured.

Strange how all these armchair quarterbacks think KRoc needs to do something about Webb and keep making threads. I am not trying to take anything away from Cooper. He road flawless. Next weekend will be interesting for sure,
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ATKpilot99 2/15/2021 2:52am
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wreckitrandy wrote:
Peculiar how Ken is always 'faster'. Even when he gets passed and beat.
LKHill wrote:
Only peculiar how if you didn't watch the race.
Ken admitted he lost touch with Webb in that race with Coop fluctuating between a 2 - 2.5 second lead at one point . Kenny pulled up on him the last lap but Webb was in no danger of being passed . Also Webb was the only rider to break into the 49s during the main.
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davistld01 2/15/2021 6:21am
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Like the guy especially or not...Cooper Webb is damn near the best at putting himself into a position to win of any other rider out there. He's the master at the "last lap steal". I'm a Roczen fan, but I really think this whole thing is going to be between KR and Webb ultimately. Tomac may Tomac, and "wake up" later in the series, but those two guys are in it to win it for sure.
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crusty_xx 2/15/2021 6:28am
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str8line wrote:
Are you nervous that last night was a major shift in momentum? Are you thinking it sucks that Brayton of all people(who was 20th in qualifying)...
Are you nervous that last night was a major shift in momentum? Are you thinking it sucks that Brayton of all people(who was 20th in qualifying) got a great start and you couldn't get by him even though you were way faster really? Do you feel like it's a little like the Deano incident part 2? Does it hurt your confidence? Are you bummed that after that you had nothing for Cooper?

And if you're Cooper do you feel like this is a big momentum shift and the season is yours for the taking? Are you confident that you're in Kenny's head? Does the fact that he couldn't get near you for the rest of the main make you supremely confident?


If I'm Kenny I'm thinking that I was the best rider in 4 out of the first 7 races and in the 1st and 7th I was basically tied for being the best.
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You’re not going to win every race against this class of rider. He’s just come off the back of 3 wins in a row and backed it up with a second, and a second where he was right there till the very end. Whilst Kenny is nailing the starts and getting on the podium he has nothing to worry about.
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LKHill 2/15/2021 6:57am
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Ken admitted he lost touch with Webb in that race with Coop fluctuating between a 2 - 2.5 second lead at one point . Kenny pulled...
Ken admitted he lost touch with Webb in that race with Coop fluctuating between a 2 - 2.5 second lead at one point . Kenny pulled up on him the last lap but Webb was in no danger of being passed . Also Webb was the only rider to break into the 49s during the main.
Again somebody who didn't watch the race that thinks Webb dominated. The last lap Kenny was exactly .12 faster. You can correct me if I am wrong but the only times Webb has paaed him this year is when he was being impeded by other riders.
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mxracerjohn250 2/15/2021 7:07am
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Just my personal opinion, but I think with Orlando, Daytona, and the Atlanta races, things are going to get shaken up. I do not think these tracks will fair well for Kenny.
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mike156 2/15/2021 7:29am
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Roczen is riding great, but he has before at this point of the year. His only problem with respect to CW2 is Webb has ice water in his veins and does not crack. Great time to be a fan in this sport and a lot of racing left.
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ATKpilot99 2/15/2021 7:37am
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Ken admitted he lost touch with Webb in that race with Coop fluctuating between a 2 - 2.5 second lead at one point . Kenny pulled...
Ken admitted he lost touch with Webb in that race with Coop fluctuating between a 2 - 2.5 second lead at one point . Kenny pulled up on him the last lap but Webb was in no danger of being passed . Also Webb was the only rider to break into the 49s during the main.
LKHill wrote:
Again somebody who didn't watch the race that thinks Webb dominated. The last lap Kenny was exactly .12 faster. You can correct me if I am...
Again somebody who didn't watch the race that thinks Webb dominated. The last lap Kenny was exactly .12 faster. You can correct me if I am wrong but the only times Webb has paaed him this year is when he was being impeded by other riders.
I did watch the race and never said Webb dominated. But he did manage a gap over him when Ken had a clear track to him . So yeah that faster last lap meant Ken was faster Huh
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wreckitrandy 2/15/2021 9:03am
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Ken admitted he lost touch with Webb in that race with Coop fluctuating between a 2 - 2.5 second lead at one point . Kenny pulled...
Ken admitted he lost touch with Webb in that race with Coop fluctuating between a 2 - 2.5 second lead at one point . Kenny pulled up on him the last lap but Webb was in no danger of being passed . Also Webb was the only rider to break into the 49s during the main.
LKHill wrote:
Again somebody who didn't watch the race that thinks Webb dominated. The last lap Kenny was exactly .12 faster. You can correct me if I am...
Again somebody who didn't watch the race that thinks Webb dominated. The last lap Kenny was exactly .12 faster. You can correct me if I am wrong but the only times Webb has paaed him this year is when he was being impeded by other riders.
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I did watch the race and never said Webb dominated. But he did manage a gap over him when Ken had a clear track to him...
I did watch the race and never said Webb dominated. But he did manage a gap over him when Ken had a clear track to him . So yeah that faster last lap meant Ken was faster Huh
Don't question a BarbieKen fan. They're emotionally invested.
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TheGetFresh 2/15/2021 9:35am
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Perfect number of down votes on OP
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Hank_Thrill 2/15/2021 9:38am
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Ken seemed unfazed in the post race interview. I don't think he interpreted it as a momentum shift one bit.
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feelit2morrow 2/15/2021 9:41am
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3 wins, 3 seconds, and a top 5...

If I'm Ken I'm feeling good about how things are going.
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LKHill 2/15/2021 10:22am
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
I did watch the race and never said Webb dominated. But he did manage a gap over him when Ken had a clear track to him...
I did watch the race and never said Webb dominated. But he did manage a gap over him when Ken had a clear track to him . So yeah that faster last lap meant Ken was faster Huh
The TV show did not show 90% of what was going on between them. After 20min+ of racing there was less than a second gap. Do you believe JB10 cost Kenny more than 1 second? Some folks are just blinded by fanboism and find any excuse to count KRoc out.
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ATKpilot99 2/15/2021 10:26am
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
I did watch the race and never said Webb dominated. But he did manage a gap over him when Ken had a clear track to him...
I did watch the race and never said Webb dominated. But he did manage a gap over him when Ken had a clear track to him . So yeah that faster last lap meant Ken was faster Huh
LKHill wrote:
The TV show did not show 90% of what was going on between them. After 20min+ of racing there was less than a second gap. Do...
The TV show did not show 90% of what was going on between them. After 20min+ of racing there was less than a second gap. Do you believe JB10 cost Kenny more than 1 second? Some folks are just blinded by fanboism and find any excuse to count KRoc out.
You're the one that seems to be a fanboy . I don't care that much for Webb but I saw a straight up win by him . To the main subject of the thread , I don't think Kenny is worried or discouraged at all by this race . He's still looks to be in control right now. Long ways to go though.
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LKHill 2/15/2021 10:29am
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wreckitrandy wrote:
Don't question a BarbieKen fan. They're emotionally invested.
Eat my panties.
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
I did watch the race and never said Webb dominated. But he did manage a gap over him when Ken had a clear track to him...
I did watch the race and never said Webb dominated. But he did manage a gap over him when Ken had a clear track to him . So yeah that faster last lap meant Ken was faster Huh
LKHill wrote:
The TV show did not show 90% of what was going on between them. After 20min+ of racing there was less than a second gap. Do...
The TV show did not show 90% of what was going on between them. After 20min+ of racing there was less than a second gap. Do you believe JB10 cost Kenny more than 1 second? Some folks are just blinded by fanboism and find any excuse to count KRoc out.
So let me get this straight. The ONLY way Kenny could possibly be beaten and the winner judged faster, is if Kenny gets the holeshot AND,,,, no lappers get involved? Cool....
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