Pros/age losing skill set/Brayton

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Tedesco is still fast
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Hell yes he is, I saw him at GH a few weeks back.he has no problem keeping up with factory riders. I just wonder why he...
Hell yes he is, I saw him at GH a few weeks back.he has no problem keeping up with factory riders.

I just wonder why he quit so soon?
Clearing all the jumps and keeping up with riders during practice is so much different from lining up on the gate.
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I think Reed would have way more wins and titles if he had RC's drive and commitment.
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Timo wrote:
I think Reed would have way more wins and titles if he had RC's drive and commitment.
He kept racing a hell of a lot longer than RC so I think it’s just different..
Chad never had issues with fitness and was winning over basically a 10 year span which is unbelievable!
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Timo wrote:
I think Reed would have way more wins and titles if he had RC's drive and commitment.
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He kept racing a hell of a lot longer than RC so I think it’s just different.. Chad never had issues with fitness and was winning...
He kept racing a hell of a lot longer than RC so I think it’s just different..
Chad never had issues with fitness and was winning over basically a 10 year span which is unbelievable!
He was known for partying the day/night before races. He got by with a lot of talent, if he would have gone full RC on the training/diet side he would have had more titles.
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Mike_Frisk 1/22/2021 11:13pm
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Didn't JB start late as well. I'm a believer in that you have a certain amount of years (give or take). I think it was McGrath who said that.
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JB has been doing mx pretty much his whole life. Raced mini's all the way up just like all the typical pros. So he's been "in the sport" for a long time.
I agree he didn't make the same amount of money as Reed, Stew and RC. He also ascended to SX from Arenacross.
I guess its amazing to me that he can run the lap speeds he does, grabs decent starts, and can still run up front when riders who retired younger and who are younger than him dropped speed and skill set at an earlier age. (i.e. like Kyle Cunningham or like Tommy Hahn)
Also, wasn't Brayton sort of out of a ride until late in this off season?
I guess a lot of teams also factor his age when signing other riders, even though so far he's higher in the points than riders on those teams.
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Didn't JB start late as well. I'm a believer in that you have a certain amount of years (give or take). I think it was McGrath...
Didn't JB start late as well. I'm a believer in that you have a certain amount of years (give or take). I think it was McGrath who said that.
I raced him back in in 96 when he was in his early teens in South Dakota and Iowa when he was just moving up to big bike class as a c and b rider. Might have even done some on a mini in the 125 class.
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So with Brayton turning 37 yrs old in March and getting on the podium at H2, he still looks great out there. He held off past...
So with Brayton turning 37 yrs old in March and getting on the podium at H2, he still looks great out there. He held off past champions, held off Roczen, and was turning laps like the favorites to be champions in 2021.
Reed ( I believe 37 yrs old last season) had lost a considerable amount of his skill set the past couple seasons he raced. Had a lot of finishes outside the top 10. Raced a lot of lcq's to get in the mains.
Stewart was experiencing a loss of speed/skill around something like 29-30 yrs old and retired.
Many other riders typically as well. Considering Brayton was never a podium threat every season, yet still has some of his best racing within the last 4 years (Daytona win/ H2 podium) how is it he has retained what so many (most) other pros can't do? Considering they all train, eat right, and ride/prep the same is it just good genes?
I know Brayton lives around Charlotte, NC now but is it something in the water in Ft Dodge, IA.
Iowa has the population of the Charlotte metro area, yet, some of its best pro racers like Chad Pedersen, Teddy Maier, Gavin Faith and Justin Brayton all hail from Ft. Dodge (population 24,000)
By the way, I live in TX but I was born in Ft Dodge, IA, used to race district 22
Give me your opinions on how Brayton is still this good at 37
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Reedy’s last podium was also just a few weeks before his 37th birthday, so not a great deal of difference to Brayton there, but he’d done...
Reedy’s last podium was also just a few weeks before his 37th birthday, so not a great deal of difference to Brayton there, but he’d done it all well before that; raced and beat some of the best ever in the sport, won championships, run his own team etc.
However I don’t think it’s the skill level that drops off, it’s more the desire and drive as other guys have mentioned above. The biggest difference I see between him and Brayton is in their careers. Brayton is still striving, Reed was way past that and just racing because he loved racing.
Guys at their age are the exception though, but just maybe that’s slowly changing???
I posted something similar ages ago in a thread like to this... comparing the two in their senior years, Brayton has that Daytona win, about the same age as Reed’s last in Atlanta. Their overall season finishes were similar to the last few comparative years and this podium makes it more of the same.

I think some of it is perception as Brayton won late in his career, so you think he’s getting better... where as people have written off Chad since 2010, majority of his winning was a while back.
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Timo wrote:
I think Reed would have way more wins and titles if he had RC's drive and commitment.
blockhead17 wrote:
He kept racing a hell of a lot longer than RC so I think it’s just different.. Chad never had issues with fitness and was winning...
He kept racing a hell of a lot longer than RC so I think it’s just different..
Chad never had issues with fitness and was winning over basically a 10 year span which is unbelievable!
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He was known for partying the day/night before races. He got by with a lot of talent, if he would have gone full RC on the...
He was known for partying the day/night before races. He got by with a lot of talent, if he would have gone full RC on the training/diet side he would have had more titles.
Show me the titles he left on the table because he wasn’t there at the end of each race.
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He is good at his age because he is really passionate about what he does. Not like Dungey, or Villopoto, who only lined up for money.
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311 wrote:
He is good at his age because he is really passionate about what he does. Not like Dungey, or Villopoto, who only lined up for money.
Guys like them don’t usually accomplish that level of success just for the money. Those are driven individuals.
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Forty wrote:
Brayton still has the fire.
I’ll say Reed hasn’t had the fire for awhile.

At that level it means everything.

Brayton also talks zero shit. He lets his riding do all the talking, and comes off as humble and thankful to be doing what he does at the level he's allowed to do it rather than think that he deserves it.
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philG 1/23/2021 6:43am
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Brayton Has it dialled, because he has had it figured out for a long time.

The days of supercross being hard, are long gone, the tracks are all the same, all the jumps are the same pretty much, even 250b guys look decent, because there is no separation any more... when there used to be lots.

Also Brayton just gets on with it, compared to Reed, none of the drama with bikes and kit that Reed seemed to have going on either.

So his SX only schedule, and going to Australia to get ready , works for him, but when it doesnt, he will drop off just like Reed did.

The flip side of that is that Reed was much better at the height of his career, whereas Brayton has always been a nearly guy . That takes less out of you mentally too.

As an older guy racing , i get how he can still do it, and i also know he will wake up one day it will be over .
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Dude I hope Reed comes back and qualifies for a main event
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Graham Jarvis is in his 40's and still winning.
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EngIceDave wrote:
Tedesco is still fast
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Hell yes he is, I saw him at GH a few weeks back.he has no problem keeping up with factory riders. I just wonder why he...
Hell yes he is, I saw him at GH a few weeks back.he has no problem keeping up with factory riders.

I just wonder why he quit so soon?
In his Whiskey Throttle podcast he said he was tired of getting injured and was having trouble finding good paying rides, he could tell he was starting his downhill slide. Overheated himself at an outdoor moto, ended up riding the last lap without a helmet because he was delirious, and retired when he got back to the truck. He was just over it.
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311 wrote:
He is good at his age because he is really passionate about what he does. Not like Dungey, or Villopoto, who only lined up for money.
Either you're full of Euro-sarcasm, or full of absolute mindless bullshit. Which is it?

If you think Brayton does all the European & Australian races just for the love of the sport, you're crazy. No pro level rider lines up for free. If the money wasn't good...why take the chances they do?
Chris99Flannery 1/23/2021 12:59pm
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No! If i see Brayton running up front in an AMA National in his 40’s ill change my mind.

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