Rockstar leaving?

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12/28/2020 10:25am
agn5009 wrote:
Do you like this sport? Because without the energy drink sponsorships it wouldn’t be where it’s at.
Also true. I just wish it wasn’t energy drinks that got the sport to where it’s at.
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12/28/2020 10:28am
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omalley wrote:
While I despise energy drinks and the fact that so many people (especially kids) are hooked on the swill, the reality is that you can kiss...
While I despise energy drinks and the fact that so many people (especially kids) are hooked on the swill, the reality is that you can kiss pro MX/SX goodbye without them.
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Sad but true.
While we are a niche sport, we’ve always survived. The sport was a thing before energy drink sponsorship and will probably continue to be a thing if they end up leaving.

Could a couple lean years happen? Yes. Could we lose a team or two? Yes. But eventually someone will fill that vacuum. They always have in the past.

Look at HEP - they brought in Twisted Tea and now it’s factory Suzuki. There will always be someone looking to blow their company’s money on something unprofitable that makes them feel cool. This is America after all.
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12/28/2020 10:34am Edited Date/Time 12/28/2020 10:37am
Yeah I highly doubt pro Mx would just disappear if all the energy drink sponsors pulled out over night. Would lose some money and viewers for sure but something or someone would step in eventually.

How much have The payouts for SX and MX increased since the energy drinks came around anyways?

I Do remember a time when we had sponsors like Chevrolet Subway Mazda Sobe etc but now they seem uninterested. I wonder why

(FWIW I could care less about the sport being in the “main stream” people that like dirtbikes will always ride dirtbikes, they just want to sponsor motocross because it fits there target demographic pretty well )
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12/28/2020 10:54am Edited Date/Time 12/28/2020 10:55am
Spudnut wrote:
Yeah I highly doubt pro Mx would just disappear if all the energy drink sponsors pulled out over night. Would lose some money and viewers for...
Yeah I highly doubt pro Mx would just disappear if all the energy drink sponsors pulled out over night. Would lose some money and viewers for sure but something or someone would step in eventually.

How much have The payouts for SX and MX increased since the energy drinks came around anyways?

I Do remember a time when we had sponsors like Chevrolet Subway Mazda Sobe etc but now they seem uninterested. I wonder why

(FWIW I could care less about the sport being in the “main stream” people that like dirtbikes will always ride dirtbikes, they just want to sponsor motocross because it fits there target demographic pretty well )
The production value of SX has gone up (LED finish line, leader tower, etc.) and I’d be willing to bet what they’ve given to the teams they sponsor has helped them keep up with the increasing costs to compete.

Obviously the sport was around before and will be around after energy drink sponsors but the whole marketing industry has changed with the proliferation of the internet, smart phones and a couple companies in Silicon Valley monopolizing the ad space. What these teams are offering potential sponsors for the amount of money they want/need is going to have to change in the next 5 years. I don’t know what the answer is but the problem is clearly on the horizon.
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Pepsi Co did or maybe still does own Sobe and the No Fear Energy drinks, which were a big part of Factory Suzuki and the FC Honda Teams.
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Find what’s cool on the “bro” scene and go after those companies.
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nealb129 wrote:
Find what’s cool on the “bro” scene and go after those companies.
Factory Tinder Yamaha racing...? (:
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nealb129 wrote:
Find what’s cool on the “bro” scene and go after those companies.
AZ35 wrote:
Factory Tinder Yamaha racing...? (:
Suzuki Bubble Factory Racing
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nealb129 wrote:
Find what’s cool on the “bro” scene and go after those companies.
AZ35 wrote:
Factory Tinder Yamaha racing...? (:
Swipe Right Motorsports...
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12/28/2020 1:16pm Edited Date/Time 12/28/2020 1:19pm
I’m not a big energy drink guy but it’s astonishing to me that people are so willing to trash some of the biggest supporters of the sport they claim to love. I can’t pretend to know what the sport would look like without Monster or Red Bull but I have to assume it would look a lot different. I mean look at how many teams, series’ and events are sponsored by an energy drink.
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I’m not a big energy drink guy but it’s astonishing to me that people are so willing to trash some of the biggest supporters of the...
I’m not a big energy drink guy but it’s astonishing to me that people are so willing to trash some of the biggest supporters of the sport they claim to love. I can’t pretend to know what the sport would look like without Monster or Red Bull but I have to assume it would look a lot different. I mean look at how many teams, series’ and events are sponsored by an energy drink.
Totally agree. I drink them every now and then and I feel good know they support my industry. But there was a time before energy drinks and factory riders got paid well and privateers still made shit and I’m sure that’s gonna be the case when or if they leave.

I personally don’t see them leaving anytime soon. The money they spend on sponsorships are a drop in the bucket. Rockstar could go one day but Monster and RedBull base a chunk of their brand on this image. They have leadership who love action sports and who realize branding isn’t really measured in the same way you measure other areas of marketing ROI.

But again every relationship has an expiration date and the industry will survive if all of them bounce.
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12/28/2020 3:19pm Edited Date/Time 12/28/2020 3:20pm
Im sure im in the minority but im way over the energy drink bikes/helmets graphics. Zero personality. Bring back custom painted helmets and mcf race bike graphics
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Someone get Pfizer to sponsor a moto team...they got money coming in hand over fist I would imagine.
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SCC wrote:
Im sure im in the minority but im way over the energy drink bikes/helmets graphics. Zero personality. Bring back custom painted helmets and mcf race bike...
Im sure im in the minority but im way over the energy drink bikes/helmets graphics. Zero personality. Bring back custom painted helmets and mcf race bike graphics
I literally LOL'd as I read this and thought about Marvin's ALWAYS epic helmet paint.
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SCC wrote:
Im sure im in the minority but im way over the energy drink bikes/helmets graphics. Zero personality. Bring back custom painted helmets and mcf race bike...
Im sure im in the minority but im way over the energy drink bikes/helmets graphics. Zero personality. Bring back custom painted helmets and mcf race bike graphics
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I literally LOL'd as I read this and thought about Marvin's ALWAYS epic helmet paint.
You're one of the very few people who get to be that close to pro riders, Manny. Most people just gloss over the details of his paint jobs from the stands and tv set.
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SCC wrote:
Im sure im in the minority but im way over the energy drink bikes/helmets graphics. Zero personality. Bring back custom painted helmets and mcf race bike...
Im sure im in the minority but im way over the energy drink bikes/helmets graphics. Zero personality. Bring back custom painted helmets and mcf race bike graphics
TeamGreen wrote:
I literally LOL'd as I read this and thought about Marvin's ALWAYS epic helmet paint.
MxKing809 wrote:
You're one of the very few people who get to be that close to pro riders, Manny. Most people just gloss over the details of his...
You're one of the very few people who get to be that close to pro riders, Manny. Most people just gloss over the details of his paint jobs from the stands and tv set.
Good point. I'll dig 'em up. Even in here, pretty sure GuyB got some of the Marvin the Martian stuff and things like that...
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12/28/2020 9:16pm
Bummer if all above is true.

On the other hand my "once in a blue moon" energy drink got a bit narrower field of choice. Thanks Pepsi. Wink
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12/28/2020 9:47pm
Spudnut wrote:
Also true. I just wish it wasn’t energy drinks that got the sport to where it’s at.
Agreed. I miss the days of Coors and Camel (honestly).
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12/28/2020 10:13pm
Spudnut wrote:
Thank god hopefully something better than heart attack diabeetus water steps In
"diabeetus"?Dry Laughing Hopefully somebody that has a product that boosts knowledge and doesn't mind being bashed by the demographic they're targeting!
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12/29/2020 12:50am Edited Date/Time 12/29/2020 12:52am
omalley wrote:
While I despise energy drinks and the fact that so many people (especially kids) are hooked on the swill, the reality is that you can kiss...
While I despise energy drinks and the fact that so many people (especially kids) are hooked on the swill, the reality is that you can kiss pro MX/SX goodbye without them.
Replied to the wrong comment but the Coors and Camel days were awesome.
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12/29/2020 2:55am
Energy drinks and the Bro circle jerk club are why the sport remains tiny, unable to attract proper sponsors to stop it shrinking. No top company wants to be associated with Meg and her kids.. Or restricted by the exploition that is ‘The Carneys’ aka Feld.
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12/29/2020 4:38am Edited Date/Time 12/29/2020 4:49am
Energy drinks and the Bro circle jerk club are why the sport remains tiny, unable to attract proper sponsors to stop it shrinking. No top company...
Energy drinks and the Bro circle jerk club are why the sport remains tiny, unable to attract proper sponsors to stop it shrinking. No top company wants to be associated with Meg and her kids.. Or restricted by the exploition that is ‘The Carneys’ aka Feld.
How many major sponsors do you think get involved with kart racing? None. We get pretty much zero major sponsorship deals. It has all the ingredients for that wholesome investment you think should happen, and alas it doesn't. Karting is very similar in Motocross in many ways, and I don't think we are are in a situation that you'd want to replicate.

We have a very small 'professional' scene which is basically subsidised by the factories. We have a sport dominated by single-make classes so the world championship is all but an irrelevance nowadays. Without a strong backbone a sport will fragment very quickly.

Also, you're not a 'tiny sport' at all. You have Honda, Yamaha, Suzuki, Kawasaki, KTM etc... building bikes and tons of riders.

So I think when bemoaning major sponsorship deals and the like, I would urge caution. Remove the professional element, and don't be surprised to see a major shift in the market towards single-make racing and stuff like that. That's what happened in karting. Literally the World Karting Champion could rock up at a club meeting and not one competitor would even notice or know who they are.


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12/29/2020 8:09am
Spudnut wrote:
Thank god hopefully something better than heart attack diabeetus water steps In
Motoxdoc wrote:
"diabeetus"?Dry Laughing Hopefully somebody that has a product that boosts knowledge and doesn't mind being bashed by the demographic they're targeting!
12/29/2020 12:52pm
Energy drinks and the Bro circle jerk club are why the sport remains tiny, unable to attract proper sponsors to stop it shrinking. No top company...
Energy drinks and the Bro circle jerk club are why the sport remains tiny, unable to attract proper sponsors to stop it shrinking. No top company wants to be associated with Meg and her kids.. Or restricted by the exploition that is ‘The Carneys’ aka Feld.
What exactly is stopping these top companies from outbidding the energy drinks and taking their spots? If they really wanted to be involved in the sport isn’t this an option?
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Someone get Pfizer to sponsor a moto team...they got money coming in hand over fist I would imagine.
AstraZeneca was sponsoring some Nascar team with their asthma med so why not.
1/1/2021 4:41am
PepsiCo is such a liberal ass company. Let them go.
Their money is the same color as everyone else's.
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Energy drinks and the Bro circle jerk club are why the sport remains tiny, unable to attract proper sponsors to stop it shrinking. No top company...
Energy drinks and the Bro circle jerk club are why the sport remains tiny, unable to attract proper sponsors to stop it shrinking. No top company wants to be associated with Meg and her kids.. Or restricted by the exploition that is ‘The Carneys’ aka Feld.
Energy drinks have only been around in the sport for what? 15-20 years now? The sport was small then. It’s small now. It’s not energy drinks. If anything motocross made the energy drink market
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Rockstar must be having a shift in their budgets they have dropped a few athletes lately, Adam Jones, Ryan Nyquist and I seen a couple others aswell.

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