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12/21/2020 6:13am
oceantrav wrote:
Get fast enough to qualify for vet 30 🤷🏼‍♂️ Feel like everyone wants a class they can easily qualify for, especially the old C vet riders...
Get fast enough to qualify for vet 30 🤷🏼‍♂️

Feel like everyone wants a class they can easily qualify for, especially the old C vet riders lol

There’s a ton of races you can go race that you don’t need to qualify for.

My kid barely made it to Loretta’s this year in the 4-6 class, and Probaly won’t qualify again until he can race big bikes. No complaints here, I’m not over here saying they need a 7-8 year old Beginner class just so we can get in lol
bama205 wrote:
They have minimum wheel size now- is my point. Historically she had no issues qualifying.
Oh ok, guess you have a more valid point then. My bad.

In the 4-6 year old ebike class my kid raced this year, there was a girl right up near the top in the some of the motos, like 5th place or so. So don’t really see the need for a lot of girl classes, If they are fast, they should have no problem making it. Outside of the height issues like you mentioned....
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12/21/2020 8:32am
"Regional Plus classes for AMA Regional Championships". Please explain the logic on this. Clydesdale class? Test classes? Promoter classes?
12/21/2020 8:46am Edited Date/Time 12/21/2020 8:57am
ElliotB16 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/12/20/466891/s1200_2EC7D9B8_86BB_45DE_896E_B7FEDEA621DE.jpg[/img] It caused a stir when these classes were added only to find out they were regional only classes lol


It caused a stir when these classes were added only to find out they were regional only classes lol
And this is the right move. The program runs so fast it’s nice to get some classes in there to give a breather. Boosts revenue for the promoter and Provides some time to recover between motos for the riders in then national program. Also allows for vet 30 c guys to watch the vet 30 class from the sidelines and think....”man I want to be out there, next year I won’t run C.”(yea right—I can dream tho)

I ran my first moto, then a consi and 10 minutes later my second moto. I was smoked. Went 20-29-20. Crashed my brains out in moto 2 just battling with some other guy down a g out. He cartwheeled into me. It’s intense. Am I complaining? No I felt alive again getting walloped into the ground. Call me wierd. The gates were full and I was actually racing with guys all around me. I can’t get that locally. Maybe get a good battle with one guy. Not 10. Best racing I get all year. Plus, I had just gotten off an active duty mobilization two weeks before the regional and decided to take a crack at it. There’s no need for a vet 30 c class.

People that complain about former pros, yea they’re former. Where else they supposed to race ?
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12/21/2020 11:00am
ElliotB16 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/12/20/466891/s1200_2EC7D9B8_86BB_45DE_896E_B7FEDEA621DE.jpg[/img] It caused a stir when these classes were added only to find out they were regional only classes lol


It caused a stir when these classes were added only to find out they were regional only classes lol
And this is the right move. The program runs so fast it’s nice to get some classes in there to give a breather. Boosts revenue for...
And this is the right move. The program runs so fast it’s nice to get some classes in there to give a breather. Boosts revenue for the promoter and Provides some time to recover between motos for the riders in then national program. Also allows for vet 30 c guys to watch the vet 30 class from the sidelines and think....”man I want to be out there, next year I won’t run C.”(yea right—I can dream tho)

I ran my first moto, then a consi and 10 minutes later my second moto. I was smoked. Went 20-29-20. Crashed my brains out in moto 2 just battling with some other guy down a g out. He cartwheeled into me. It’s intense. Am I complaining? No I felt alive again getting walloped into the ground. Call me wierd. The gates were full and I was actually racing with guys all around me. I can’t get that locally. Maybe get a good battle with one guy. Not 10. Best racing I get all year. Plus, I had just gotten off an active duty mobilization two weeks before the regional and decided to take a crack at it. There’s no need for a vet 30 c class.

People that complain about former pros, yea they’re former. Where else they supposed to race ?
There needs to a class that is Vet Pro. If you have ever raced pro at any level that is your class make the rest of them all actual amateur classes. Currently as it sits the vet classes are just additional pro classes.
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12/21/2020 11:05am
oceantrav wrote:
Get fast enough to qualify for vet 30 🤷🏼‍♂️ Feel like everyone wants a class they can easily qualify for, especially the old C vet riders...
Get fast enough to qualify for vet 30 🤷🏼‍♂️

Feel like everyone wants a class they can easily qualify for, especially the old C vet riders lol

There’s a ton of races you can go race that you don’t need to qualify for.

My kid barely made it to Loretta’s this year in the 4-6 class, and Probaly won’t qualify again until he can race big bikes. No complaints here, I’m not over here saying they need a 7-8 year old Beginner class just so we can get in lol
bama205 wrote:
They have minimum wheel size now- is my point. Historically she had no issues qualifying.
oceantrav wrote:
Oh ok, guess you have a more valid point then. My bad. In the 4-6 year old ebike class my kid raced this year, there was...
Oh ok, guess you have a more valid point then. My bad.

In the 4-6 year old ebike class my kid raced this year, there was a girl right up near the top in the some of the motos, like 5th place or so. So don’t really see the need for a lot of girl classes, If they are fast, they should have no problem making it. Outside of the height issues like you mentioned....
Yep and girls typically mature faster than boys so they should have an advantage up until teen years.
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12/21/2020 3:06pm Edited Date/Time 12/21/2020 3:08pm
ElliotB16 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/12/20/466891/s1200_2EC7D9B8_86BB_45DE_896E_B7FEDEA621DE.jpg[/img] It caused a stir when these classes were added only to find out they were regional only classes lol


It caused a stir when these classes were added only to find out they were regional only classes lol
And this is the right move. The program runs so fast it’s nice to get some classes in there to give a breather. Boosts revenue for...
And this is the right move. The program runs so fast it’s nice to get some classes in there to give a breather. Boosts revenue for the promoter and Provides some time to recover between motos for the riders in then national program. Also allows for vet 30 c guys to watch the vet 30 class from the sidelines and think....”man I want to be out there, next year I won’t run C.”(yea right—I can dream tho)

I ran my first moto, then a consi and 10 minutes later my second moto. I was smoked. Went 20-29-20. Crashed my brains out in moto 2 just battling with some other guy down a g out. He cartwheeled into me. It’s intense. Am I complaining? No I felt alive again getting walloped into the ground. Call me wierd. The gates were full and I was actually racing with guys all around me. I can’t get that locally. Maybe get a good battle with one guy. Not 10. Best racing I get all year. Plus, I had just gotten off an active duty mobilization two weeks before the regional and decided to take a crack at it. There’s no need for a vet 30 c class.

People that complain about former pros, yea they’re former. Where else they supposed to race ?
crusher773 wrote:
There needs to a class that is Vet Pro. If you have ever raced pro at any level that is your class make the rest of...
There needs to a class that is Vet Pro. If you have ever raced pro at any level that is your class make the rest of them all actual amateur classes. Currently as it sits the vet classes are just additional pro classes.
I don’t think you realize how many NON pro guys are insanely fast in vet 30. The entire gate of 30+ is ex pros ?! Nope.

It’s an amatuer National for a reason.

Also, when you turn 40. It doesn’t get any easier. Because everyone else turns 40 right alongside you. Guys that continue to race at this level don’t just disappear at certain age increments.
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12/21/2020 3:09pm
Now the women’s class question posed earlier seems legit. Why not have the jr women’s ? Where they gonna race otherwise ?
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12/21/2020 3:46pm Edited Date/Time 12/21/2020 4:32pm
Now the women’s class question posed earlier seems legit. Why not have the jr women’s ? Where they gonna race otherwise ?
I know on the surface it doesn't look like they did their due diligence but they did. They limited wheel size in the women's class to 21 front, 18 back to allow for more women to qualify. Otherwise you had girls taking those gate spots on their supermini's. If a shorter women would like to qualify then go get a 125, then have the suspension shortened. I've known many of males that were 4'11 riding 125's, I would bet money there was more than one at Mini O's last month.
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12/21/2020 3:57pm
crusher773 wrote:
There needs to a class that is Vet Pro. If you have ever raced pro at any level that is your class make the rest of...
There needs to a class that is Vet Pro. If you have ever raced pro at any level that is your class make the rest of them all actual amateur classes. Currently as it sits the vet classes are just additional pro classes.
So many vets in here pissed off pro’s retired and aren’t pros anymore lol you really that worried about a 30+ title at lorettas that much?? You can just twist that thing on the right a little further and you’ll be up front with the rest of the 30+ vets.
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12/21/2020 5:33pm
crusher773 wrote:
There needs to a class that is Vet Pro. If you have ever raced pro at any level that is your class make the rest of...
There needs to a class that is Vet Pro. If you have ever raced pro at any level that is your class make the rest of them all actual amateur classes. Currently as it sits the vet classes are just additional pro classes.
xrmark wrote:
So many vets in here pissed off pro’s retired and aren’t pros anymore lol you really that worried about a 30+ title at lorettas that much...
So many vets in here pissed off pro’s retired and aren’t pros anymore lol you really that worried about a 30+ title at lorettas that much?? You can just twist that thing on the right a little further and you’ll be up front with the rest of the 30+ vets.
Not worried about a title at all but you can look at the names in at least the top 20-25 and they are past pro riders. I don't care if t
it's 30, 40 or 50 there should be a vet pro class. This crap of no longer being pro is garbage. Once a pro always a pro. You still have that skill set. That's like saying the day you quit any job you no longer have that skill to do that job 5 years from now. It's not about winning a title it's about those pros taking gate spots from guys who should have a shot to even be there. Chances are for me I wouldn't even qualify if they did kick the pros out but it's the same thing it has been for years. Lots of vet guys don't even consider trying, good riders that if those pros were out they would get to go and have that experience with their family. It's not about a title it's about just being there and having a fair shot at a chance of being there.
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12/21/2020 5:50pm
Hi Side wrote:
The "Sportsman" Vet classes are a much needed addition in my opinion. Hard for a working guy to compete against former pros.
Something for the true vet b/c riders would be nice. You can place 21st at a National and still race sportsman.. The guys here who qualified last year race the local A class.

Seems like they would get a lot more coin chalked up as the guys with money at the track are usually the vets who work in the week. Why not give them a class 🤷🏼‍♂️
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12/21/2020 7:16pm
crusher773 wrote:
Not worried about a title at all but you can look at the names in at least the top 20-25 and they are past pro riders...
Not worried about a title at all but you can look at the names in at least the top 20-25 and they are past pro riders. I don't care if t
it's 30, 40 or 50 there should be a vet pro class. This crap of no longer being pro is garbage. Once a pro always a pro. You still have that skill set. That's like saying the day you quit any job you no longer have that skill to do that job 5 years from now. It's not about winning a title it's about those pros taking gate spots from guys who should have a shot to even be there. Chances are for me I wouldn't even qualify if they did kick the pros out but it's the same thing it has been for years. Lots of vet guys don't even consider trying, good riders that if those pros were out they would get to go and have that experience with their family. It's not about a title it's about just being there and having a fair shot at a chance of being there.
The dude that won the +45 class this year is a regular guy that owns his own tree service company (and did it on one of those really un-competitive yellow bikes to boot)! I don't know his full backstory, but he has been kicking my ass locally for many years.

In the late 90s/early 00s it wasn't too hard to get a pro license. Basically just needed an A district card and a letter from a district rep. I had a SM Pro Card for a year - does that mean I should be ineligible for LL? What about B riders that did a Pro race in Canada? Where do you draw the line?

They tried the 30 B/C class for a lot of years, but it was impossible to police as people would lobby to drop down from A. MX Sports has the Vault where they can guarantee who has scored a point. Trying to weed out everyone that might have ever had a pro card is a near impossible task.

I dont expect to change your mind as I know a lot of folks with a similar thought process. I just really thought what they have done here for 21 with the extra classes for the Regional would have appeased some of the louder critics.
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I'm excited for the Regional Vet Classes. I haven't raced in years because I hate showing up and only have 3 guys to race against in +30 or +35. I'm looking forward to being apart of the atmosphere and having hopefully 30 guys on the gate. Gives me something to try to get in shape for.

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12/22/2020 10:13am
Now the women’s class question posed earlier seems legit. Why not have the jr women’s ? Where they gonna race otherwise ?
My answer isn't going to be very popular, but nothing is stopping them from racing the age class that is appropriate. The last time I checked, age group mini classes aren't gender specific. My wife raced all these classes when she was growing up. Hell, she raced her 60 in the Women's class for 3 years Woohoo .

I have had conversations with the powers that be over this particular class since I have friends that have girls that would fall into this class. The simple answer is there isn't the number of entries to warrant adding that class to the national program.
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Now the women’s class question posed earlier seems legit. Why not have the jr women’s ? Where they gonna race otherwise ?
JBlain619 wrote:
My answer isn't going to be very popular, but nothing is stopping them from racing the age class that is appropriate. The last time I checked...
My answer isn't going to be very popular, but nothing is stopping them from racing the age class that is appropriate. The last time I checked, age group mini classes aren't gender specific. My wife raced all these classes when she was growing up. Hell, she raced her 60 in the Women's class for 3 years Woohoo .

I have had conversations with the powers that be over this particular class since I have friends that have girls that would fall into this class. The simple answer is there isn't the number of entries to warrant adding that class to the national program.
I think the issue would be qualifying for the super mini class. Another would be those kids are out for blood, his wife not so much.
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LKHill wrote:
I think the issue would be qualifying for the super mini class. Another would be those kids are out for blood, his wife not so much.
I guess I'm not tracking. I thought this was about the Jr Girls class, not a Super Mini class.
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JBlain619 wrote:
I guess I'm not tracking. I thought this was about the Jr Girls class, not a Super Mini class.
I guess not. The women's class was brought up because his wife is 4'11 and rides a super mini.
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LKHill wrote:
I guess not. The women's class was brought up because his wife is 4'11 and rides a super mini.
The post I initially replied to said nothing about a wife and riding a super mini. It was why there wasn't a Jr Women's class.
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Hi Side wrote:
The "Sportsman" Vet classes are a much needed addition in my opinion. Hard for a working guy to compete against former pros.
nwmx wrote:
Something for the true vet b/c riders would be nice. You can place 21st at a National and still race sportsman.. The guys here who qualified...
Something for the true vet b/c riders would be nice. You can place 21st at a National and still race sportsman.. The guys here who qualified last year race the local A class.

Seems like they would get a lot more coin chalked up as the guys with money at the track are usually the vets who work in the week. Why not give them a class 🤷🏼‍♂️
As someone already said, too many people will try and drop down to VET B/C or whatever it used to be called. They tried it and it was a disaster.

No one said Lorettas was the race for everyone. It’s a race for the fastest people in the Ammy ranks. If you don’t fit into that, then start practicing or show up to Glen Helen for the vet Championships where they break every class down by age and speed.
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Why would they let anyone drop down. If you even have to ask or petition for it the answer should be no. Once a pro always a pro period. World vets is on the horizon for sure though. Waiting to turn 40 so we can ride more classes.
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crusher773 wrote:
Why would they let anyone drop down. If you even have to ask or petition for it the answer should be no. Once a pro always...
Why would they let anyone drop down. If you even have to ask or petition for it the answer should be no. Once a pro always a pro period. World vets is on the horizon for sure though. Waiting to turn 40 so we can ride more classes.
Here’s a thought. Put in the effort to qualify. You have one of the easiest regions to qualify in. Pretty sure guys who qualified for a night show in sx aren’t allowed to race sportsman classes. Loretta’s is a National event, why wouldn’t you have national level riders? Whole point in qualifying. If you want to make it stop crying poor me and put in the effort like the other 41 guys on the line with you.
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crusher773 wrote:
Why would they let anyone drop down. If you even have to ask or petition for it the answer should be no. Once a pro always...
Why would they let anyone drop down. If you even have to ask or petition for it the answer should be no. Once a pro always a pro period. World vets is on the horizon for sure though. Waiting to turn 40 so we can ride more classes.
ge217 wrote:
Here’s a thought. Put in the effort to qualify. You have one of the easiest regions to qualify in. Pretty sure guys who qualified for a...
Here’s a thought. Put in the effort to qualify. You have one of the easiest regions to qualify in. Pretty sure guys who qualified for a night show in sx aren’t allowed to race sportsman classes. Loretta’s is a National event, why wouldn’t you have national level riders? Whole point in qualifying. If you want to make it stop crying poor me and put in the effort like the other 41 guys on the line with you.
You can go suck a dong. I put the work right after I turned 30 and wasn't even remotely close. I was fast enough to win an OK state title but not even close to qualifying. How in the hell do you think I'm in one of the easiest regions? Texas is in my region not exactly slow dudes there. I'm just saying what a crap load of other vets also think. When it's talked about at the track this is a pretty consistent thought about the vet classes. Racing pros is bull crap.
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You can go suck a dong. I put the work right after I turned 30 and wasn't even remotely close. I was fast enough to win...
You can go suck a dong. I put the work right after I turned 30 and wasn't even remotely close. I was fast enough to win an OK state title but not even close to qualifying. How in the hell do you think I'm in one of the easiest regions? Texas is in my region not exactly slow dudes there. I'm just saying what a crap load of other vets also think. When it's talked about at the track this is a pretty consistent thought about the vet classes. Racing pros is bull crap.
Well considering almost everyone top 10 at LL quailies in south or north east region... I never said your region was slow, just said it’s one of the easiest to qualify in. I went to freestone last year. Even know some people from there that have came over here. They have even said its tougher here.
Only thing you’re saying is you can’t qualify like some or the other vet riders. There is a reason why the went from b/c to sportsman. Maybe if you put the work in before 30 you could have made it? Idk try harder man. You act like just bc someone raced pro they were a factory all star that made it. What if a dude never raced pro but could still clean house on those guys? If your need an award that bad I’ll buy you one.
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JBlain619 wrote:
The post I initially replied to said nothing about a wife and riding a super mini. It was why there wasn't a Jr Women's class.
"Now the women’s class question posed earlier seems legit. Why not have the jr women’s ? Where they gonna race otherwise ?"

Wrong answer.

He was referring to the mans wife.
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12/22/2020 5:37pm Edited Date/Time 12/22/2020 7:04pm
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You can go suck a dong. I put the work right after I turned 30 and wasn't even remotely close. I was fast enough to win...
You can go suck a dong. I put the work right after I turned 30 and wasn't even remotely close. I was fast enough to win an OK state title but not even close to qualifying. How in the hell do you think I'm in one of the easiest regions? Texas is in my region not exactly slow dudes there. I'm just saying what a crap load of other vets also think. When it's talked about at the track this is a pretty consistent thought about the vet classes. Racing pros is bull crap.
ge217 wrote:
Well considering almost everyone top 10 at LL quailies in south or north east region... I never said your region was slow, just said it’s one...
Well considering almost everyone top 10 at LL quailies in south or north east region... I never said your region was slow, just said it’s one of the easiest to qualify in. I went to freestone last year. Even know some people from there that have came over here. They have even said its tougher here.
Only thing you’re saying is you can’t qualify like some or the other vet riders. There is a reason why the went from b/c to sportsman. Maybe if you put the work in before 30 you could have made it? Idk try harder man. You act like just bc someone raced pro they were a factory all star that made it. What if a dude never raced pro but could still clean house on those guys? If your need an award that bad I’ll buy you one.
Yeah you can shove that trophy up your own ass. You are completely missing the point. This has absolutely nothing to do with me wanting a trophy. I don't ever even pick them up at the track anymore. It is about these pro guys trophy hunting though. You are completely missing the argument and why it pisses people off. Never said they were all factory guys. If you made money racing then you are a pro. Every other sport out there that disqualifies you from further amateur status. Like I said I probably wouldn't qualify even if the pros were kicked out but it's a talking point and pisses people off every year. Not just me but a lot of vet guys. Adding 1 vet pro class isn't going to hurt anything and would be better for everything.
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Why is there 3 classes in the 4-6 class but you can only race one at the national? Weren’t they allowed to race the Mini E class and another class last year? It seems like a long week and a lot of money to race one class.
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12/22/2020 6:57pm Edited Date/Time 12/22/2020 7:00pm
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Yeah you can shove that trophy up your own ass. You are completely missing the point. This has absolutely nothing to do with me wanting a...
Yeah you can shove that trophy up your own ass. You are completely missing the point. This has absolutely nothing to do with me wanting a trophy. I don't ever even pick them up at the track anymore. It is about these pro guys trophy hunting though. You are completely missing the argument and why it pisses people off. Never said they were all factory guys. If you made money racing then you are a pro. Every other sport out there that disqualifies you from further amateur status. Like I said I probably wouldn't qualify even if the pros were kicked out but it's a talking point and pisses people off every year. Not just me but a lot of vet guys. Adding 1 vet pro class isn't going to hurt anything and would be better for everything.
Not about the trophy but here you are making it about the trophy saying pro guys are trophy hunting 😂😂😂. No, they are just racing the vet class they are eligible for. You do realize people make money in the sport that have never raced A or pro class? Hell look at Deegan. Kid makes bank already. Makes good amount off YouTube . Not a pro rider, could quite today come back when he is 30, clean house. He made money. So by your dumb logic he shouldn’t be aloud to race bc he made money at one point... we aren’t like every other sport . This is motocross. They wouldn’t be able to fill the gate if you made a vet pro only class.

I raced a guy who is damn good that has made 29 outdoors. I’ve never made one, not even into program. You don’t see me complaining about the guy. I actually liked racing with him. He never won LL and got beat every moto by people who have never qualified for an outdoor. Keep crying yourself a river about how hard a vet class is for you. There is always a winner and always a loser. Remember that.
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Yeah you can shove that trophy up your own ass. You are completely missing the point. This has absolutely nothing to do with me wanting a...
Yeah you can shove that trophy up your own ass. You are completely missing the point. This has absolutely nothing to do with me wanting a trophy. I don't ever even pick them up at the track anymore. It is about these pro guys trophy hunting though. You are completely missing the argument and why it pisses people off. Never said they were all factory guys. If you made money racing then you are a pro. Every other sport out there that disqualifies you from further amateur status. Like I said I probably wouldn't qualify even if the pros were kicked out but it's a talking point and pisses people off every year. Not just me but a lot of vet guys. Adding 1 vet pro class isn't going to hurt anything and would be better for everything.
ge217 wrote:
Not about the trophy but here you are making it about the trophy saying pro guys are trophy hunting 😂😂😂. No, they are just racing the...
Not about the trophy but here you are making it about the trophy saying pro guys are trophy hunting 😂😂😂. No, they are just racing the vet class they are eligible for. You do realize people make money in the sport that have never raced A or pro class? Hell look at Deegan. Kid makes bank already. Makes good amount off YouTube . Not a pro rider, could quite today come back when he is 30, clean house. He made money. So by your dumb logic he shouldn’t be aloud to race bc he made money at one point... we aren’t like every other sport . This is motocross. They wouldn’t be able to fill the gate if you made a vet pro only class.

I raced a guy who is damn good that has made 29 outdoors. I’ve never made one, not even into program. You don’t see me complaining about the guy. I actually liked racing with him. He never won LL and got beat every moto by people who have never qualified for an outdoor. Keep crying yourself a river about how hard a vet class is for you. There is always a winner and always a loser. Remember that.
Yet again you are completely missing the point moron. You might want to get your head injuries checked out better next time. You seem to have a real reading comprehension problem. You are trying to compare apples to cows is how far off your comparison is. I'm done, I've said my piece, myself and tons of other vets think the classes are garbage and they'll probably always stay that way. It is what it is but it's just crappy the way it currently is.
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12/22/2020 7:15pm Edited Date/Time 12/22/2020 7:16pm
crusher773 wrote:
Yet again you are completely missing the point moron. You might want to get your head injuries checked out better next time. You seem to have...
Yet again you are completely missing the point moron. You might want to get your head injuries checked out better next time. You seem to have a real reading comprehension problem. You are trying to compare apples to cows is how far off your comparison is. I'm done, I've said my piece, myself and tons of other vets think the classes are garbage and they'll probably always stay that way. It is what it is but it's just crappy the way it currently is.
You’re done bc you can’t come up with some other bs. I just told you straight facts. You want to say I’m missing the point be using deegan as an example. He is getting paid to today de his bike you moron. Tell me why he wouldn’t be allowed to ride any vet class at LL if he quits today and doesn’t race again until he is 30? I mean you said he you’ve ever made money you’re a pro. Your words, not mine. You also said if they did kick the ex pros out you still wouldn’t be able to qualify. So let’s bitch about something we couldn’t qualify for anyways and tell people how the class should be ran even though you still couldn’t make it. That is why the class will never change. 99% of the guys complaining are guys just like you who CANT make it regardless.
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12/22/2020 7:29pm
I didn’t realize former pro’s that never got a top
20 MADE MONEY racing.....? This is News to me.
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