Compression fracture experiences

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Let me start out by saying I’m going to consult with the specialists next week, but meanwhile I’m stuck on the couch and am curious if some of you have had this type of injury. Compression fractured my L4 in a non moto incident 2 weeks ago, it took 1 trip to the hospital and 2 trips to the doctor before they even took an X-ray.

Thanks in advance,
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Had a slight compression fracture of my L5 when i like 18 or 19. (I swear i think it happened when i was doing sitdown landings).. It hurt like shit.. i was off the bike for like 5 weeks. Idk but i still have this problem if i lay on a bed with my feet flat on the floor.. my back will lock up and be extremely painful. Im 31 now so its been some years.
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8/8/2020 5:26pm Edited Date/Time 8/8/2020 5:27pm
There’s several threads on the forum, the search function is better than it used to be.

They will tell you a year to ride. For 3 months definitely don’t do anything strenuous. The pain will slowly fade to a point over months to a year, at a year you’re living with what you got pain wise. The pain comes from the misalignment. Muscles, nerves get crazy and cause a cramping pain.

Familiarize yourself with Kyphoplasti. This is where they inject a cement to fluff up your vertebrae to normal height. If it’s not too compressed may not need it. I compressed (wedge fractured) my T-5,6,7 in 2010. The procedure was new and he didn’t recommend it. I was also very leery of Surgeons wanting to make their Porche payment off me so I was happy to hear no surgery, but wished I would have gotten a second opinion.
I would keep an open mind to a procedure/surgery. You will have up to a year to decide.
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Thanks guys. This old guy appreciates any and all feedback.
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Two years ago had a pretty bad crash and suffered compression fractures to T12, L1 and L2. Three months in a back brace, daily pool therapy and stretching, and I was back racing OTHG events a month after getting out of the brace. Got really lucky. No lingering issues. Full mobility and strength. I'm 64 by the way, and just got home from a OTHG race at MMX in Marysville. No back worries at all.
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Compressed t 4, 5, and 6. 30, 40, and 50% back in '85 at perris in ca. I was 15 yo. Lost all feeling for a few days, started coming back slowly. Had to learn how to walk again. Less than a year later, was racing again. I have a numb spot on back, gets fatigued if not moving much. Also I'm about an inch shorter than should be. Otherwise, 'it' works, so me and girl are happy!😃 Wore a brace for 6 months.
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8/8/2020 10:47pm Edited Date/Time 8/8/2020 10:48pm
Motodave15 wrote:
Had a slight compression fracture of my L5 when i like 18 or 19. (I swear i think it happened when i was doing sitdown landings)...
Had a slight compression fracture of my L5 when i like 18 or 19. (I swear i think it happened when i was doing sitdown landings).. It hurt like shit.. i was off the bike for like 5 weeks. Idk but i still have this problem if i lay on a bed with my feet flat on the floor.. my back will lock up and be extremely painful. Im 31 now so its been some years.
Myself also when I was 15, was describing to my friend that comp fractured himself how mine felt and he was like dude that sounds way worse than mine, I never went and got it checked but it went away about 5 days later, I researched comp fractures recently since I always have back problems (im 30 now) and a website said something like 85% go untreated because the pain goes away so fast that people never get checked out.. I would let it heal completely before doing anything risky, best prevention of injury is to strenthen that area when cleared to( in regards to the O P)
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When I was 41 I compression fractured my lower back. My feet came off the pegs and I landed sitting on the seat. I didn't know it at the time but, of course, but it was kind of painful for awhile. No displacement of the vertebrae occurred. Later, after another crash, I was taken to a hospital and during xrays they said I had broken my back. The neurologist who looked at my xrays said I had a compression fracture but that it wasn't from this weekend crash. He said it was earlier and healed up pretty well. They injected a dye to confirm that and that was the end of my hospital stay.

In a month I went back to racing in the old guys class and now, some 34 years later, I have no problems whatsoever. I hope your fracture works out like mine did. In my case it was that I had no misalignment and it healed as strong as ever.
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8/9/2020 4:26pm
Always amazes me the American Hospital system when you say things like didn't get an xray for a few visits.

Your recovery and return to riding is based on whats required to stabilize the fracture. Also how it was done. was it a minor incident with low forces and you have a bone integrity issue or if it was high force and other soft tissue structures were implicated during the injury.

Any fracture if not a professional requires 6weeks recovery time. meaning some sort of activity reduction, immobilization and monitoring for recovery e.g. xray at 6 weeks confirming bone union.

but spinal compression fractures are not to be underestimated. As a Physio treating people with these injuries the comments above from people saying back on the bike in a month is just careless. these injuries can affect your ability to function normally in general day to day activities for life if you don't give adequate recovery.

If your bored during your down time recovering check out some of the pro rider injuries I report on via my Instagram page @always.moto and see how someone with nothing but time and no work time pressure can recover in silly timeframes. this is the uncommon world of recovery and normal day to day full time workers should not compare themselves to these recovery timelines.
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Always amazes me the American Hospital system when you say things like didn't get an xray for a few visits. Your recovery and return to riding...
Always amazes me the American Hospital system when you say things like didn't get an xray for a few visits.

Your recovery and return to riding is based on whats required to stabilize the fracture. Also how it was done. was it a minor incident with low forces and you have a bone integrity issue or if it was high force and other soft tissue structures were implicated during the injury.

Any fracture if not a professional requires 6weeks recovery time. meaning some sort of activity reduction, immobilization and monitoring for recovery e.g. xray at 6 weeks confirming bone union.

but spinal compression fractures are not to be underestimated. As a Physio treating people with these injuries the comments above from people saying back on the bike in a month is just careless. these injuries can affect your ability to function normally in general day to day activities for life if you don't give adequate recovery.

If your bored during your down time recovering check out some of the pro rider injuries I report on via my Instagram page @always.moto and see how someone with nothing but time and no work time pressure can recover in silly timeframes. this is the uncommon world of recovery and normal day to day full time workers should not compare themselves to these recovery timelines.
Not to mention that they sent me to PT three times before the X-ray. I thought they had to do that prior to getting an MRI.
My injury occurred in my third attempt to get up on a slalom waterski, something that I had done dozens of times.
Heel to toes knees bent elbows bent, no slack in the rope.
When the load was nearing peak, I heard-felt a pop and it was game over.
Top surface of L4 is no longer parallel to the bottom.

KC
8/9/2020 5:05pm
See that makes me feel sorry for the PT trying to work on you not knowing that there is something majorly wrong structurally. But they should have worked these things out also.

So decent load so not a bone integrity issue. But might be concern for other soft tissue in the area which would only be seen on a MRI.

The way you described the xray sounds like a wedge compression fracture. May not be anything surgically to be done but I will let your specialist confirm that. May just be slow conservative management for 3months.
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Thanks again to all you guys,
I hope to have an update this week sometime.
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8/9/2020 7:23pm
I broke L 1,2,3 in 96 Bone spurs grew threw the fractures. Into the disk and nerves. I tried every back injection procedure. Had surgery 10-2-02. I did my own therapy, by April I was 100 percent. 1st 2 weeks my legs where real weak, took forever to walk a short distance.
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752dad wrote:
Let me start out by saying I’m going to consult with the specialists next week, but meanwhile I’m stuck on the couch and am curious if...
Let me start out by saying I’m going to consult with the specialists next week, but meanwhile I’m stuck on the couch and am curious if some of you have had this type of injury. Compression fractured my L4 in a non moto incident 2 weeks ago, it took 1 trip to the hospital and 2 trips to the doctor before they even took an X-ray.

Thanks in advance,
KC
Had a t12 compression fracture from motocross and it kept me out of work for almost 4 months. At first I just thought I was bruised up. When I went to stand up I couldn't. It's not fun hope you heal up soon
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I compressed my T8 and T9 racing in 1978. My throttle cable snapped coming off a jump and my engine ran wide open as I hit the ground and the bike came back on top of me when I let go and my butt slammed into some mud. I got the wind knocked out of me and my stomach just felt weird. Sat around with one of the EMT guys and the pain was not getting better so they took me to the ER. Worst part was checking me for internal bleeding. X-rays said compression fractures. Lots of Valium, Tylenol 3, etc, and a steel brace for four months. Had to either stand up or lay down all the time. It never really hurt until they took off the brace and no more pain pills. My orthopedic doc said I could do anything I wanted just don’t fall down. I’m 61 now and my back has never bothered me at all. No racing for me since then but trail riding is okay.

Whatever you do, take the time to let it heal. And listen to your physician. Mine was very blunt with me and said if I’d hit just the wrong way I would have been paralyzed from the neck down. That got my attention. Good luck to you.
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I currently have compression fractures of the T5 & T6 in my back. This was not a riding injury. It has now been 8 mouths and a surgery 4 months ago and still have no relief from the pain. I have been put on ton's of pain killers, but still no relief. The doctors tell me it may not get better as there has been nerve damage. So for right now riding is just out of the question. It would be nice just to walk with out pain.

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I have a compressed intervertebral disc between T6 en T7. it happened in 2017 and still feel it to this day. You learn to live with it. It doesn't hinder me too much while riding. Doctor told me to train my back well, so the muscles can protect it more. Not much more you can do.
8/24/2020 4:42am
T7 compression fracture about 10 years ago. I broke my scaphoid at the same time and all the focus was on it. Struggled to walk for a few days. The doctors just thought i bruised my back. As soon as the hand was healed i was riding but the back was still sore. I lost about an inch in height and picked up the fracture when i smashed my shoulder and broke some ribs some months later. Aside from the structural change, once the bone is good, its the soft tissue at the joint that needs to heal and be strengthened and developed. Mine is ok these days. But my guess is the damage done to the soft tissue varies a lot from incident to incident. Thats where i would focus on finding out more info - i.e try and get a MRI or something to get better info. Can be too much focus on the bone in my experience.
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Thanks again guys,
I’m a month out from the injury, getting along much better, have been able to put my own socks on for a week😄
MRI appointment tomorrow.

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I lost an inch in height too. As for the pain, I learned to just suppress it as much as possible and over time I adjusted to it and it didn't cause anymore problems. Only thing I try to stay away from is stepping off curbs without knowing it. That'll remind you pretty quickly you injured your back.
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Compression fractures usually heal quite well in most cases. Kyphoplasty has been around since the early 90's and was proposed to be the best way to fix this. The main research on kyphoplasty is in osteoporotic fractures and not as much as in traumatic compression fractures.

Hate to hear that it took some time for you to get the right diagnosis, usually any sign of trauma is a sign to image the area but with just falling on a waterski, I can see where the doc's thought process was as well. I fractured my T8 in 2005 and used a basic back brace/turtle shell for 2 months. It did take me 2 weeks from date of injury to get to a doctor, mine surprisingly didn't hurt that bad after 2 days but felt more like pepper being ground up in my back after landing from a jump (tried a race two weeks after the fall).

Take the proper time off and let it heal. They'll take updated images every few weeks to monitor healing. Not many cases need surgery. Cases that do need surgery are usually for stabilization of complete fractures which are rare in compression fractures - especially with only 1 level being affected.

Post healing - PT/chiro will be good to restore any lost ROM and improve strength.

Best of luck!
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RCMXracing wrote:
There’s several threads on the forum, the search function is better than it used to be. They will tell you a year to ride. For 3...
There’s several threads on the forum, the search function is better than it used to be.

They will tell you a year to ride. For 3 months definitely don’t do anything strenuous. The pain will slowly fade to a point over months to a year, at a year you’re living with what you got pain wise. The pain comes from the misalignment. Muscles, nerves get crazy and cause a cramping pain.

Familiarize yourself with Kyphoplasti. This is where they inject a cement to fluff up your vertebrae to normal height. If it’s not too compressed may not need it. I compressed (wedge fractured) my T-5,6,7 in 2010. The procedure was new and he didn’t recommend it. I was also very leery of Surgeons wanting to make their Porche payment off me so I was happy to hear no surgery, but wished I would have gotten a second opinion.
I would keep an open mind to a procedure/surgery. You will have up to a year to decide.
I did the exact same, wedge type compression fractures to T-5,6,7. Happened in 2011. Got hit on a start, highsided and landed like a lawn dart.

I got up and finished, even set the fastest lap that moto. Had no idea I'd broken anything until another crash a few weeks later sent me to the ER. I had a chest X-Ray for suspected broken ribs, they said my ribs were just bruised but my back was broken.

9 years later now and I still have pain, there's good days and bad, gets sore as hell sitting too long or walking on concrete for too long without good shoes.
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2 months out from injury, quite a bit better this week.
Got an MRI a few weeks ago and no soft tissue damage.
Actually lifted a Big Block Chevy crankshaft yesterday 😮
The 3-6 month Recovery estimate seems pretty reasonable.
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That's good to hear. Glad it's going well. Anything to avoid surgery is a good thing.
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sparker245 wrote:
Two years ago had a pretty bad crash and suffered compression fractures to T12, L1 and L2. Three months in a back brace, daily pool therapy...
Two years ago had a pretty bad crash and suffered compression fractures to T12, L1 and L2. Three months in a back brace, daily pool therapy and stretching, and I was back racing OTHG events a month after getting out of the brace. Got really lucky. No lingering issues. Full mobility and strength. I'm 64 by the way, and just got home from a OTHG race at MMX in Marysville. No back worries at all.

Hey this is Warren minster, I’m reading your message about your broken back, did any of the vertebrae’s collapse? I’m exactly 6 months in and still have issues, I thought I was good until I shorted a tabletop at riverfront, now I’m scared lol

10/17/2023 8:04am

In 2010 I compressed my T12, and in 2014 cracked and compressed my T3, T4 and T5. Not an injury you want to rush back from so follow professional advice. Think I was around 9 months off the bike each time.

10/17/2023 8:18am

Compressed/Fractured L2 was a full six months Back Scan.png?VersionId=J28TeqfBfmPB

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10/17/2023 8:22pm Edited Date/Time 10/18/2023 7:05am

T4 and T5 in my 1st A class race in 1981 and spent 6 months in a nasty smelling brace. Zero issues ever since .

When they X-rayed my back they discovered that I had done it some point before.

As a kid around 10 or 11 I remember crashing head on into the wall of our garage because after jumping a ramp like Evil Knievel my Schwinn kickstand came down so my brakes didn't work and I believe that was when I had done it before.  

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