2026 RMZ450

8/6/2020 3:33am Edited Date/Time 8/6/2020 4:00am
Suzuki haters are gonna have more reasons to hate the brand.
It seems 2021' bikes are not going to be shown anytime soon,
they're communicating on the wifi get gadget for selling the 2020 bikes dealers have in stock.
It should be crazy to show now bng new bikes that are more expensive than the 2020!
(and the deal ends 30th of september...)
2021 are supposed to be alvailable at the end of september as well lol
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8/6/2020 7:33am Edited Date/Time 8/6/2020 7:35am
So with Suzuki having only 3% of the bikes racing at Lorettas, but we continue to see them on the podium, what does this say to all the haters ? Only 47 total entries... how many made the podium and what’s the average finishing position ?


COBRA 112 7%
HONDA 80 5%
HUSABERG 1 0%
HUSQVARNA 229 15%
KAWASAKI 149 10%
KTM 581 38%
OTHER 2 0%
SUZUKI 47 3%
TM 5 0%
YAMAHA 307 20%

TOTALS 1513 100%
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BroFoSho
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8/6/2020 9:22am
Pastrana left Suzuki....

That's about all you need to know about the brand
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8/6/2020 9:24am
BroFoSho wrote:
Pastrana left Suzuki....

That's about all you need to know about the brand
Try sourcing rm250 2 stroke parts. It was inevitable Pastrana would leave. Hard to maintain bikes when you cant find parts.
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8/6/2020 9:51am
BroFoSho wrote:
Pastrana left Suzuki....

That's about all you need to know about the brand
When you end up having to buy your own bikes, then KTM offers to pay you and give you bikes, what do you expect him to do ?
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Gillboy67
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8/6/2020 10:03am
BroFoSho wrote:
Pastrana left Suzuki....

That's about all you need to know about the brand
mister2dt wrote:
Try sourcing rm250 2 stroke parts. It was inevitable Pastrana would leave. Hard to maintain bikes when you cant find parts.
That is exactly what Pastranas Mechanic said. "it was getting to hard to get oe parts" "So Travis called Rodger up."
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mxracer515
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8/6/2020 1:06pm
Here is what I know.....2018 RMZ450 is for sale in my area....$3200 - that all you need to know IMO......

https://kansascity.craigslist.org/mcy/d/pleasanton-2018-suzuki-rmz-450/…
sf702/410 wrote:
That's a damn steal. Likely a scam based on the typing errors though
No its a legit deal .He bought it tried to sell it after it was purchased & just kept it as no one was buying.
It's been listed a few times over last last couple years. So looks like a blow out price now just to get rid of it.
I have known the guy who listed it for 30 years it's his pro speed sons.
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8/6/2020 1:15pm
Here is what I know.....2018 RMZ450 is for sale in my area....$3200 - that all you need to know IMO......

https://kansascity.craigslist.org/mcy/d/pleasanton-2018-suzuki-rmz-450/…
sf702/410 wrote:
That's a damn steal. Likely a scam based on the typing errors though
mxracer515 wrote:
No its a legit deal .He bought it tried to sell it after it was purchased & just kept it as no one was buying. It's...
No its a legit deal .He bought it tried to sell it after it was purchased & just kept it as no one was buying.
It's been listed a few times over last last couple years. So looks like a blow out price now just to get rid of it.
I have known the guy who listed it for 30 years it's his pro speed sons.
Damn. Snag it dude. Offer him 2800??
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8/6/2020 2:15pm
Here is what I know.....2018 RMZ450 is for sale in my area....$3200 - that all you need to know IMO......

https://kansascity.craigslist.org/mcy/d/pleasanton-2018-suzuki-rmz-450/…
I could buy that bike for $3000. Sign up for 10 races left in my area (northeast) in two different classes, register it for contingency as its still eligible until the end of the year, win all my races and have it paid off by the end of the year. Name another bike you can do that on. I'll wait...............Until then let's focus on info about the 2021 RMZ's
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8/6/2020 2:32pm
Here is what I know.....2018 RMZ450 is for sale in my area....$3200 - that all you need to know IMO......

https://kansascity.craigslist.org/mcy/d/pleasanton-2018-suzuki-rmz-450/…
MXer391 wrote:
I could buy that bike for $3000. Sign up for 10 races left in my area (northeast) in two different classes, register it for contingency as...
I could buy that bike for $3000. Sign up for 10 races left in my area (northeast) in two different classes, register it for contingency as its still eligible until the end of the year, win all my races and have it paid off by the end of the year. Name another bike you can do that on. I'll wait...............Until then let's focus on info about the 2021 RMZ's
“ Until then let's focus on info about the 2021 RMZ's”

There’s no stoping this train, until it’s derailed into the dumbgeon
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Aaryn234
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8/6/2020 5:36pm
Here is what I know.....2018 RMZ450 is for sale in my area....$3200 - that all you need to know IMO......

https://kansascity.craigslist.org/mcy/d/pleasanton-2018-suzuki-rmz-450/…
MXer391 wrote:
I could buy that bike for $3000. Sign up for 10 races left in my area (northeast) in two different classes, register it for contingency as...
I could buy that bike for $3000. Sign up for 10 races left in my area (northeast) in two different classes, register it for contingency as its still eligible until the end of the year, win all my races and have it paid off by the end of the year. Name another bike you can do that on. I'll wait...............Until then let's focus on info about the 2021 RMZ's
Langhammx wrote:
“ Until then let's focus on info about the 2021 RMZ's”

There’s no stoping this train, until it’s derailed into the dumbgeon
Dumbgeon, no way this is going to the HOF.

More pages than a JS7 come back Topic in it prime Smile

This could go down as the biggest topic every for a bike that may never actually exist!
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deadlo
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8/6/2020 6:37pm
Weren’t you guys just trying to say the rmz actually has a great resale value, and now you’re proving they don’t and making that a good thing too? You guys are insane.
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8/6/2020 6:42pm
deadlo wrote:
Weren’t you guys just trying to say the rmz actually has a great resale value, and now you’re proving they don’t and making that a good...
Weren’t you guys just trying to say the rmz actually has a great resale value, and now you’re proving they don’t and making that a good thing too? You guys are insane.
I haven’t seen anyone saying they have a good resale

But if you consider what the cost is, versus resale, they resale value is pretty close between the RMZ and other bikes. Just my opinion, I haven’t seen anyone bragging about resale value though
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8/6/2020 6:50pm
deadlo wrote:
Weren’t you guys just trying to say the rmz actually has a great resale value, and now you’re proving they don’t and making that a good...
Weren’t you guys just trying to say the rmz actually has a great resale value, and now you’re proving they don’t and making that a good thing too? You guys are insane.
Langhammx wrote:
I haven’t seen anyone saying they have a good resale But if you consider what the cost is, versus resale, they resale value is pretty close...
I haven’t seen anyone saying they have a good resale

But if you consider what the cost is, versus resale, they resale value is pretty close between the RMZ and other bikes. Just my opinion, I haven’t seen anyone bragging about resale value though
Exactly this Langham . The price you can get an RMZ450 for vs. the price of a KTM, is near 1/2. The resale value reflects that.
(full disclosure: I own a KTM 450...and many vintage and modern Suzuki 2-strokes. ;-)
deadlo
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8/6/2020 6:53pm
deadlo wrote:
Weren’t you guys just trying to say the rmz actually has a great resale value, and now you’re proving they don’t and making that a good...
Weren’t you guys just trying to say the rmz actually has a great resale value, and now you’re proving they don’t and making that a good thing too? You guys are insane.
Langhammx wrote:
I haven’t seen anyone saying they have a good resale But if you consider what the cost is, versus resale, they resale value is pretty close...
I haven’t seen anyone saying they have a good resale

But if you consider what the cost is, versus resale, they resale value is pretty close between the RMZ and other bikes. Just my opinion, I haven’t seen anyone bragging about resale value though

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8/6/2020 6:57pm
Somebody start a poll on how many pages this RMZ thread will go. I bet it gets over 20.
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8/6/2020 7:02pm
*this thread again ughhhh*
“Well I’m not opening it”
*opens it*
“I sure won’t read ALL the new comments”
*reads all new comments*
“Well I will NOT post in it”
*posts in it*
............
30 minutes later
*this thread AGAIN*
“Well I won’t open it”..............
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8/6/2020 7:09pm
deadlo wrote:
Weren’t you guys just trying to say the rmz actually has a great resale value, and now you’re proving they don’t and making that a good...
Weren’t you guys just trying to say the rmz actually has a great resale value, and now you’re proving they don’t and making that a good thing too? You guys are insane.
I'll keep slapping this pony on the ass.


At least come with good troll claims. Ain't nooobody claiming resale value. But proportionally...... all the same, friend.
deadlo
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8/6/2020 7:18pm
deadlo wrote:
Weren’t you guys just trying to say the rmz actually has a great resale value, and now you’re proving they don’t and making that a good...
Weren’t you guys just trying to say the rmz actually has a great resale value, and now you’re proving they don’t and making that a good thing too? You guys are insane.
sf702/410 wrote:
I'll keep slapping this pony on the ass.


At least come with good troll claims. Ain't nooobody claiming resale value. But proportionally...... all the same, friend.
Look 3 posts up where I literally attached a screenshot of you guys claiming a good resale value.

We have the “kyles” for the monster energy kawi stereotype, but can we make a new one for these die hard suzuki guys who’ll die by the Kickstarter and claim excuses to the yellow machine no matter how much it weighs and doesn’t change each year
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8/6/2020 7:20pm
Langhammx wrote:
So with Suzuki having only 3% of the bikes racing at Lorettas, but we continue to see them on the podium, what does this say to...
So with Suzuki having only 3% of the bikes racing at Lorettas, but we continue to see them on the podium, what does this say to all the haters ? Only 47 total entries... how many made the podium and what’s the average finishing position ?


COBRA 112 7%
HONDA 80 5%
HUSABERG 1 0%
HUSQVARNA 229 15%
KAWASAKI 149 10%
KTM 581 38%
OTHER 2 0%
SUZUKI 47 3%
TM 5 0%
YAMAHA 307 20%

TOTALS 1513 100%
Gee, lets see, likely because there are good pilots on them?
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8/6/2020 7:26pm
Langhammx wrote:
So with Suzuki having only 3% of the bikes racing at Lorettas, but we continue to see them on the podium, what does this say to...
So with Suzuki having only 3% of the bikes racing at Lorettas, but we continue to see them on the podium, what does this say to all the haters ? Only 47 total entries... how many made the podium and what’s the average finishing position ?


COBRA 112 7%
HONDA 80 5%
HUSABERG 1 0%
HUSQVARNA 229 15%
KAWASAKI 149 10%
KTM 581 38%
OTHER 2 0%
SUZUKI 47 3%
TM 5 0%
YAMAHA 307 20%

TOTALS 1513 100%
kiwifan wrote:
Gee, lets see, likely because there are good pilots on them?
Didn’t realize you were also a hater, but carry on...

Good pilots don’t pick the worst bike to race.
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8/6/2020 7:35pm
The definition of insanity : Doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result.
It is all so tiresome...

T. Me, clicking on this retarded thread looking for a 2021 Zook with yellow wheels and a start button that I could throw my money at ..

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8/6/2020 7:42pm
deadlo wrote:
Weren’t you guys just trying to say the rmz actually has a great resale value, and now you’re proving they don’t and making that a good...
Weren’t you guys just trying to say the rmz actually has a great resale value, and now you’re proving they don’t and making that a good thing too? You guys are insane.
sf702/410 wrote:
I'll keep slapping this pony on the ass.


At least come with good troll claims. Ain't nooobody claiming resale value. But proportionally...... all the same, friend.
deadlo wrote:
Look 3 posts up where I literally attached a screenshot of you guys claiming a good resale value. We have the “kyles” for the monster energy...
Look 3 posts up where I literally attached a screenshot of you guys claiming a good resale value.

We have the “kyles” for the monster energy kawi stereotype, but can we make a new one for these die hard suzuki guys who’ll die by the Kickstarter and claim excuses to the yellow machine no matter how much it weighs and doesn’t change each year
Absolutely.

"Unabashed, free thinking geniuses w/ excellent reasoning and problem solvers."

Uftgerps

Argue me.
8/6/2020 7:45pm

With all the shit talking on the Suzuki’s, here are some current stats-

So there are 17 out of 36 classes that have at least one rider on a Suzuki.
* Only 10 classes have more than 1 rider on a Suzuki

Total of 46 riders.
3% of the total entries

6% of entries of the 17 classes they are entered in.

Out of 17 classes, 7 classes have only 1-rider and average position is 14th place
So being the only rider on the gate, here are the current positions-
4th, 6th, 10th, 11th, 22nd, 22nd, 24th

There is 3 classes with 2 riders
(Schoolboy 2 12-17) *9th, *20th
(85 12-13) *3, *35
(85 10-12) *1, *27
average position is 15th

There is one class with 3 riders
(Open pro sport) *3rd, 4th, 9th
average position is 5th

There is 3 classes with 4 riders
(Junior 25+) * 25th, 32nd, 33rd, 38th
(Vet 30+) * 2nd, 17th, 22nd, 33rd
(Sr Vet 45+) *3rd, 9th, 15th, 25th
average position is 21st

There are 2 classes with 5 riders
(Masters 50+) *1st, 2nd, 8th, 15th, 18th
(250 pro sport) *3rd, 4th, 21st, 24th, 30th
average position is 11th

There is 1 class with 7 riders
(senior 40+)
average position Is 20th


12 riders are sitting in top 4 positions
2- in 1st
2- in 2nd
5- in 3rd
3- in 4th

Average finishing position 14th for all Suzuki riders racing the ranch.

* note-
Out of 19 classes that don’t have a Suzuki entry, 9 of them are 50/ 65/125 classes
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8/6/2020 7:49pm
Langhammx wrote:
With all the shit talking on the Suzuki’s, here are some current stats- So there are 17 out of 36 classes that have at least one...

With all the shit talking on the Suzuki’s, here are some current stats-

So there are 17 out of 36 classes that have at least one rider on a Suzuki.
* Only 10 classes have more than 1 rider on a Suzuki

Total of 46 riders.
3% of the total entries

6% of entries of the 17 classes they are entered in.

Out of 17 classes, 7 classes have only 1-rider and average position is 14th place
So being the only rider on the gate, here are the current positions-
4th, 6th, 10th, 11th, 22nd, 22nd, 24th

There is 3 classes with 2 riders
(Schoolboy 2 12-17) *9th, *20th
(85 12-13) *3, *35
(85 10-12) *1, *27
average position is 15th

There is one class with 3 riders
(Open pro sport) *3rd, 4th, 9th
average position is 5th

There is 3 classes with 4 riders
(Junior 25+) * 25th, 32nd, 33rd, 38th
(Vet 30+) * 2nd, 17th, 22nd, 33rd
(Sr Vet 45+) *3rd, 9th, 15th, 25th
average position is 21st

There are 2 classes with 5 riders
(Masters 50+) *1st, 2nd, 8th, 15th, 18th
(250 pro sport) *3rd, 4th, 21st, 24th, 30th
average position is 11th

There is 1 class with 7 riders
(senior 40+)
average position Is 20th


12 riders are sitting in top 4 positions
2- in 1st
2- in 2nd
5- in 3rd
3- in 4th

Average finishing position 14th for all Suzuki riders racing the ranch.

* note-
Out of 19 classes that don’t have a Suzuki entry, 9 of them are 50/ 65/125 classes
Of the 450 vet guys, how many are still running the stock shock??
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8/6/2020 9:21pm
Damn..... All these pages. Must be a complete shit bike, or the perfect bike that keeps people talking. And yet, still performs well on a National level, seems to be very affordable, durable, and the folks that build it don't mind to help you pay the bills to race it. Plenty of aftermarket goodies made for it, platform has more often than not proven rock solid, plus any idiot with a modicum of skills can perform basic care to said machine to keep it trucking hour after hour. Who in their right mind would ever consider owning such an inferior machine?

Oh, wait a sec..... You're gonna have to raise a leg off your lazy ass to start it. You give up a little, to get a little more in return. After all these pages, seems to my simple ass that Suzuki has hit a home run. All these positives their product seem to produce, yet it's so damn out of date, it shouldn't even be allowed to compete unless it's a vintage event. They have an amazing product on their hands, it's so good, it can easily surpass any product timeline. It fits all the guidelines, vintage, retro, modern, post modern, slow, fast, easy, aggressive..... this fucker can do it all! So what are they gonna change for next year???

In all reality, probably not much. And why should they? If they had a PR guy reading every thread based on this bike on here alone, they would probably tell the production folks " Don't change a thing, maybe a color on the graphics. As long as it still works, people keep talking about it keeping us relevant, this thing can be a cash cow." Yamaha did the same exact thing........
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8/7/2020 12:01am
17 pages. Quickly becoming the most highly anticipated bike release of all time.
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