Am I crazy? Late thirties beginner looking to ride on Mx track

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Yea I probably would but my fat ass is 210 lbs without gear. From what I hear a 125 is a little too small for my...
Yea I probably would but my fat ass is 210 lbs without gear. From what I hear a 125 is a little too small for my inexperienced tub of lard. I get it, if I was good at riding at could keep it on the pipe then I would probably like the power band. Seems like the 125’s power band feels like a donkey on crack...
Do not by a 125. 125's are for kids and experienced guys.. getting them round a track when you dont know what you are doing is hard work... unless you are pinned , they dont go anywhere. They are mentally tiring to ride, because you dont just have to worry where you are going, you have to worry about how you are going too.

I am a 55 year old Vet ,220lb, who has ridden everything, last bike was a 300 2 Stroke, now back with a 450. Also have a 125 and a 250F in the stable, and 2 500 fourstrokes.

A 15 min race on the 125 is as hard as riding any of the rest . Yes its fun. but i was racing 125's in 1981 and i can ride one, even though i am way too big now. I spend the whole race pinned, riding over my head , to get back to where i would have been on a 250F off the gate.

The 250F is a 2015 Yamaha, Nice bike, but you have to rev it hard, compared to the CRF it replaced.

Any low hours 250F will be fine.
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I think the manufacturers just keep moving the power up in the rpm range to get more power but it makes it harder for new riders to get a handle on.
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EriCS1991 wrote:
Yea I probably would but my fat ass is 210 lbs without gear. From what I hear a 125 is a little too small for my...
Yea I probably would but my fat ass is 210 lbs without gear. From what I hear a 125 is a little too small for my inexperienced tub of lard. I get it, if I was good at riding at could keep it on the pipe then I would probably like the power band. Seems like the 125’s power band feels like a donkey on crack...
No way man you would be fine. I'm 215 without gear and shred on my 125s! I have 250 2 strokes, 250 4 stroke, 350 4 stroke, 450 4 stroke but my 125s are just magic little things. Feels way more aggressive than a 250f! The KTM/Husky 125s are putting out close to 40hp stock. They rip!! Even with me on it. I have a 19 TC125 and a 20 FC250 and the 125 feels a LOT faster.
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EriCS1991 wrote:
Yea I probably would but my fat ass is 210 lbs without gear. From what I hear a 125 is a little too small for my...
Yea I probably would but my fat ass is 210 lbs without gear. From what I hear a 125 is a little too small for my inexperienced tub of lard. I get it, if I was good at riding at could keep it on the pipe then I would probably like the power band. Seems like the 125’s power band feels like a donkey on crack...
philG wrote:
Do not by a 125. 125's are for kids and experienced guys.. getting them round a track when you dont know what you are doing is...
Do not by a 125. 125's are for kids and experienced guys.. getting them round a track when you dont know what you are doing is hard work... unless you are pinned , they dont go anywhere. They are mentally tiring to ride, because you dont just have to worry where you are going, you have to worry about how you are going too.

I am a 55 year old Vet ,220lb, who has ridden everything, last bike was a 300 2 Stroke, now back with a 450. Also have a 125 and a 250F in the stable, and 2 500 fourstrokes.

A 15 min race on the 125 is as hard as riding any of the rest . Yes its fun. but i was racing 125's in 1981 and i can ride one, even though i am way too big now. I spend the whole race pinned, riding over my head , to get back to where i would have been on a 250F off the gate.

The 250F is a 2015 Yamaha, Nice bike, but you have to rev it hard, compared to the CRF it replaced.

Any low hours 250F will be fine.
I can't say i 100% agree. A 125 at 1/4 throttle will rev out. A 250f at 1/4 throttle will hold its RPM steady so you need to give a lot more throttle to get into the power. I find a 125 to be just as easy to ride if not easier than a 250F. For an easy to ride 250f i'd choose something with decent bottom grunt like the newer Yamahas or the RMZ. Also the pre-2019 KX was great off the bottom. The CRF, KTM, Husky all take a ton of throttle to get the power out of it. To me that makes it harder to ride.
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EriCS1991 wrote:
Yea I probably would but my fat ass is 210 lbs without gear. From what I hear a 125 is a little too small for my...
Yea I probably would but my fat ass is 210 lbs without gear. From what I hear a 125 is a little too small for my inexperienced tub of lard. I get it, if I was good at riding at could keep it on the pipe then I would probably like the power band. Seems like the 125’s power band feels like a donkey on crack...
philG wrote:
Do not by a 125. 125's are for kids and experienced guys.. getting them round a track when you dont know what you are doing is...
Do not by a 125. 125's are for kids and experienced guys.. getting them round a track when you dont know what you are doing is hard work... unless you are pinned , they dont go anywhere. They are mentally tiring to ride, because you dont just have to worry where you are going, you have to worry about how you are going too.

I am a 55 year old Vet ,220lb, who has ridden everything, last bike was a 300 2 Stroke, now back with a 450. Also have a 125 and a 250F in the stable, and 2 500 fourstrokes.

A 15 min race on the 125 is as hard as riding any of the rest . Yes its fun. but i was racing 125's in 1981 and i can ride one, even though i am way too big now. I spend the whole race pinned, riding over my head , to get back to where i would have been on a 250F off the gate.

The 250F is a 2015 Yamaha, Nice bike, but you have to rev it hard, compared to the CRF it replaced.

Any low hours 250F will be fine.
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I can't say i 100% agree. A 125 at 1/4 throttle will rev out. A 250f at 1/4 throttle will hold its RPM steady so you...
I can't say i 100% agree. A 125 at 1/4 throttle will rev out. A 250f at 1/4 throttle will hold its RPM steady so you need to give a lot more throttle to get into the power. I find a 125 to be just as easy to ride if not easier than a 250F. For an easy to ride 250f i'd choose something with decent bottom grunt like the newer Yamahas or the RMZ. Also the pre-2019 KX was great off the bottom. The CRF, KTM, Husky all take a ton of throttle to get the power out of it. To me that makes it harder to ride.
Curious to what others have to say about this? I figured a 250 4 stroke would be a better choice for any trail riding I do as well...
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philG wrote:
Do not by a 125. 125's are for kids and experienced guys.. getting them round a track when you dont know what you are doing is...
Do not by a 125. 125's are for kids and experienced guys.. getting them round a track when you dont know what you are doing is hard work... unless you are pinned , they dont go anywhere. They are mentally tiring to ride, because you dont just have to worry where you are going, you have to worry about how you are going too.

I am a 55 year old Vet ,220lb, who has ridden everything, last bike was a 300 2 Stroke, now back with a 450. Also have a 125 and a 250F in the stable, and 2 500 fourstrokes.

A 15 min race on the 125 is as hard as riding any of the rest . Yes its fun. but i was racing 125's in 1981 and i can ride one, even though i am way too big now. I spend the whole race pinned, riding over my head , to get back to where i would have been on a 250F off the gate.

The 250F is a 2015 Yamaha, Nice bike, but you have to rev it hard, compared to the CRF it replaced.

Any low hours 250F will be fine.
Ray Knight wrote:
I can't say i 100% agree. A 125 at 1/4 throttle will rev out. A 250f at 1/4 throttle will hold its RPM steady so you...
I can't say i 100% agree. A 125 at 1/4 throttle will rev out. A 250f at 1/4 throttle will hold its RPM steady so you need to give a lot more throttle to get into the power. I find a 125 to be just as easy to ride if not easier than a 250F. For an easy to ride 250f i'd choose something with decent bottom grunt like the newer Yamahas or the RMZ. Also the pre-2019 KX was great off the bottom. The CRF, KTM, Husky all take a ton of throttle to get the power out of it. To me that makes it harder to ride.
EriCS1991 wrote:
Curious to what others have to say about this? I figured a 250 4 stroke would be a better choice for any trail riding I do...
Curious to what others have to say about this? I figured a 250 4 stroke would be a better choice for any trail riding I do as well...
For trail riding a 250F is fantastic. That mild low to mid power makes it easy to do slow technical stuff. For trails a 250f would be better than a 125. That said i ride a 150XCW in trails. But i think a 250f would be easier.
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Congrats.. agree with most.. hold line on track..means no abrupt lane changing. If your rolling jumps, stay to far left or far right. The key to not getting hurt is progression meaning start slow. Jump a small table top and go up from there. Start out like some said trail riding or find track with a beginner's track to get acquainted with the machine. Then go to a track. Progress jumping as well.

Then consider your profession cause you can get hurt.. not to scare you to bad, but seriously consider if you have a family having life insurance. If you get hurt, could you still work and pay the bills. Some of us work desk jobs and can still work with a broken leg. Roofer job, probably screwed if you break a leg.
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philG wrote:
Do not by a 125. 125's are for kids and experienced guys.. getting them round a track when you dont know what you are doing is...
Do not by a 125. 125's are for kids and experienced guys.. getting them round a track when you dont know what you are doing is hard work... unless you are pinned , they dont go anywhere. They are mentally tiring to ride, because you dont just have to worry where you are going, you have to worry about how you are going too.

I am a 55 year old Vet ,220lb, who has ridden everything, last bike was a 300 2 Stroke, now back with a 450. Also have a 125 and a 250F in the stable, and 2 500 fourstrokes.

A 15 min race on the 125 is as hard as riding any of the rest . Yes its fun. but i was racing 125's in 1981 and i can ride one, even though i am way too big now. I spend the whole race pinned, riding over my head , to get back to where i would have been on a 250F off the gate.

The 250F is a 2015 Yamaha, Nice bike, but you have to rev it hard, compared to the CRF it replaced.

Any low hours 250F will be fine.
Ray Knight wrote:
I can't say i 100% agree. A 125 at 1/4 throttle will rev out. A 250f at 1/4 throttle will hold its RPM steady so you...
I can't say i 100% agree. A 125 at 1/4 throttle will rev out. A 250f at 1/4 throttle will hold its RPM steady so you need to give a lot more throttle to get into the power. I find a 125 to be just as easy to ride if not easier than a 250F. For an easy to ride 250f i'd choose something with decent bottom grunt like the newer Yamahas or the RMZ. Also the pre-2019 KX was great off the bottom. The CRF, KTM, Husky all take a ton of throttle to get the power out of it. To me that makes it harder to ride.
EriCS1991 wrote:
Curious to what others have to say about this? I figured a 250 4 stroke would be a better choice for any trail riding I do...
Curious to what others have to say about this? I figured a 250 4 stroke would be a better choice for any trail riding I do as well...
For slow technical riding a 2 stroke 250 or 300 stall resistance kills a four stroke. They are not really beginner friendly on a track though. A rekluse auto clutch will help the four stroke keep up in slow technical though.
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EriCS1991 7/13/2020 6:28pm
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Here is the bike, now I just have to find a way for the wife to let me go. Maybe bribery will do the trick?...
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^^Annnd, the addiction starts. Good for you. Have fun. Don't skimp on protective equipment. Start with getting a quality helmet and boots.
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EriCS1991 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/07/13/437641/s1200_105C68A5_EA2F_4D1F_847F_3187740B80AD.jpg[/img] Here is the bike, now I just have to find a way for the wife to let me go. Maybe bribery will do the trick?...

Here is the bike, now I just have to find a way for the wife to let me go. Maybe bribery will do the trick?...
Congrats! I started riding MX at 30 and have been going strong for a little over a year now. Just had my first race on Sunday at ETown and it was hella fun! You definitely won't regret it.
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EriCS1991 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/07/13/437641/s1200_105C68A5_EA2F_4D1F_847F_3187740B80AD.jpg[/img] Here is the bike, now I just have to find a way for the wife to let me go. Maybe bribery will do the trick?...

Here is the bike, now I just have to find a way for the wife to let me go. Maybe bribery will do the trick?...
Congrats on the new BluCru! Get out there and ride at your own pace and get comfortable with the track and the bike before you start trying to “go fast”. You’ll be hooked (if you aren’t already) in no time and looking to learn how to go faster and smoother for longer, just remember 95% of it will be you and your technique, not the bike and mods.
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I know lots of people who started in there 30’s. I am 45 and still ride.
EriCS1991 wrote:
Ok, that’s kinda what the gentleman I spoke with who owners the track said granted he’s been riding most of his life.
My dad is 64 now and still likes to go shred at the track. He just gets tired quicker and his butt hurts from the seat quicker 😂
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Congrats on the new bike man, always good to have another person joining the sport! Never too late to start Smile
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EriCS1991 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/07/13/437641/s1200_105C68A5_EA2F_4D1F_847F_3187740B80AD.jpg[/img] Here is the bike, now I just have to find a way for the wife to let me go. Maybe bribery will do the trick?...

Here is the bike, now I just have to find a way for the wife to let me go. Maybe bribery will do the trick?...
Stoked you got the 250f. It's less work (IMO) than the 125 and you can just put it in 3rd and cruise around the outside of the track and try to wipe the smile off your face afterwards.

Remember to piss off your neighbors first by riding up and down the street and shifting through those gears....

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Hell ya! The 250 is very easy to ride, congrats!
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EriCS1991 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/07/13/437641/s1200_105C68A5_EA2F_4D1F_847F_3187740B80AD.jpg[/img] Here is the bike, now I just have to find a way for the wife to let me go. Maybe bribery will do the trick?...

Here is the bike, now I just have to find a way for the wife to let me go. Maybe bribery will do the trick?...
Congrats! Enjoy it!
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Took a 2 hour lesson today with a local pro https://aaronlampimx.com/. Definitely an eye opener, feels like I got kicked in the lower back by a donkey! Lol... Anyways I can see how technique is crucial, took a couple spills in the turns and got whiskey throttle a few times from arm pump but had a blast. Time to get the cardio up for sure but I made it through the session. I actually enjoyed the turns the most but I wasn’t really attacking any jumps yet nor I shouldn’t have. I rolled over most and the ones that I felt comfortable on I probably didn’t even leave the ground much but I didn’t care about that, it will come with time. Thanks everyone the support and telling me to get out there and do it! I would like to get some more seat time for sure to help me get more comfortable, biggest issue I was having was mental overload as well as physical. I’m going to sleep well tonight that’s for sure!
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EriCS1991 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/07/13/437641/s1200_105C68A5_EA2F_4D1F_847F_3187740B80AD.jpg[/img] Here is the bike, now I just have to find a way for the wife to let me go. Maybe bribery will do the trick?...

Here is the bike, now I just have to find a way for the wife to let me go. Maybe bribery will do the trick?...
tonyd811 wrote:
Stoked you got the 250f. It's less work (IMO) than the 125 and you can just put it in 3rd and cruise around the outside of...
Stoked you got the 250f. It's less work (IMO) than the 125 and you can just put it in 3rd and cruise around the outside of the track and try to wipe the smile off your face afterwards.

Remember to piss off your neighbors first by riding up and down the street and shifting through those gears....

Smile
Yea I let her rip the other day up the street!
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EriCS1991 wrote:
Took a 2 hour lesson today with a local pro https://aaronlampimx.com/. Definitely an eye opener, feels like I got kicked in the lower back by a...
Took a 2 hour lesson today with a local pro https://aaronlampimx.com/. Definitely an eye opener, feels like I got kicked in the lower back by a donkey! Lol... Anyways I can see how technique is crucial, took a couple spills in the turns and got whiskey throttle a few times from arm pump but had a blast. Time to get the cardio up for sure but I made it through the session. I actually enjoyed the turns the most but I wasn’t really attacking any jumps yet nor I shouldn’t have. I rolled over most and the ones that I felt comfortable on I probably didn’t even leave the ground much but I didn’t care about that, it will come with time. Thanks everyone the support and telling me to get out there and do it! I would like to get some more seat time for sure to help me get more comfortable, biggest issue I was having was mental overload as well as physical. I’m going to sleep well tonight that’s for sure!
You need to keep this thread going with a monthly update. Will be fun to follow your progress...and feel your wallet pain like the rest of us. hahaha. Excellent. Glad you had a good time. It's addicting.
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EriCS1991 7/18/2020 2:17pm
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EriCS1991 wrote:
Took a 2 hour lesson today with a local pro https://aaronlampimx.com/. Definitely an eye opener, feels like I got kicked in the lower back by a...
Took a 2 hour lesson today with a local pro https://aaronlampimx.com/. Definitely an eye opener, feels like I got kicked in the lower back by a donkey! Lol... Anyways I can see how technique is crucial, took a couple spills in the turns and got whiskey throttle a few times from arm pump but had a blast. Time to get the cardio up for sure but I made it through the session. I actually enjoyed the turns the most but I wasn’t really attacking any jumps yet nor I shouldn’t have. I rolled over most and the ones that I felt comfortable on I probably didn’t even leave the ground much but I didn’t care about that, it will come with time. Thanks everyone the support and telling me to get out there and do it! I would like to get some more seat time for sure to help me get more comfortable, biggest issue I was having was mental overload as well as physical. I’m going to sleep well tonight that’s for sure!
tonyd811 wrote:
You need to keep this thread going with a monthly update. Will be fun to follow your progress...and feel your wallet pain like the rest of...
You need to keep this thread going with a monthly update. Will be fun to follow your progress...and feel your wallet pain like the rest of us. hahaha. Excellent. Glad you had a good time. It's addicting.
Yea I definitely will! During the session yesterday I said to myself while completely exhausted and out of breathe what the hell am I doing here? I started to question the whole damn thing for a moment. I haven’t stopped thinking about it since I left the track though... Ever get sore hip flexors? WTF are hip flexors??? Didn’t even know I had those...
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Yea I definitely will! During the session yesterday I said to myself while completely exhausted and out of breathe what the hell am I doing here...
Yea I definitely will! During the session yesterday I said to myself while completely exhausted and out of breathe what the hell am I doing here? I started to question the whole damn thing for a moment. I haven’t stopped thinking about it since I left the track though... Ever get sore hip flexors? WTF are hip flexors??? Didn’t even know I had those...
Not sure how much fitness training you already do but cycling will help you out massively with your cardio levels on the bike!...it’ll also really help with muscle and joint aches too Smile
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Congrats on the bike!

Soreness is going to be there for awhile after each ride but don't let it discourage you. You have to develop "moto muscles" and the only way is seat time. Stick with it! Cardio trading will help you ride longer and get even more enjoyment out of your bike, and when you start caring about what you eat, because you want to improve on the track, your' e making better choices and your overall health will improve as well.

Try and find someone else who is just starting out too. I got faster when I did. Having someone to ride with makes it more fun, pushes you, and gives you someone to look out for you if do get injured while riding.
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No way, soreness gives me an idea of how out of shape I’m in plus it’s the first time on a bike. A 2 hour session in my opinion is not bad for a beginner, yes I need more cardio but that is something I’m looking at changing going forward. As long as I don’t get hurt bad enough to discourage me some ok be riding.
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As stated already, take it slow and enjoy the learning process. Never exceed you abilities. Seat time will bring experience and good decision making while riding. For the first year or so, set realistic goals. Your goal should be to just ride within your limits and be ok with that. Keep it fun!!!!!!! The speed and skills will come if you work the fundamentals. Ride every chance you get. There is no replacement for seat time.

You bike is the best gym and best workout. There are moto specific muscles that you only use when riding. Riding every week keeps you sharp and keeps those muscles working. Don't be hard on yourself and for the first year, just learn the fundamentals, ask questions and most importantly, be safe!!!
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Just an update, been to the track 3 times already, hoping to get out Saturday as well. A 2 hour session is way easier than what it was, feeling way more comfortable on the bike as well. Gaining confidence on the jumps and kinda just letting my confidence and skill lead me on that aspect. Having a blast though, what a great way to stay in shape. I actually started doing more core exercises when I get the chance, I think between that and riding it has helped my conditioning. Problem I’m still having though is not using my lower body to hold me into the bike enough, something I need to consciously work in next few times I ride.
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Just an update, been to the track 3 times already, hoping to get out Saturday as well. A 2 hour session is way easier than what...
Just an update, been to the track 3 times already, hoping to get out Saturday as well. A 2 hour session is way easier than what it was, feeling way more comfortable on the bike as well. Gaining confidence on the jumps and kinda just letting my confidence and skill lead me on that aspect. Having a blast though, what a great way to stay in shape. I actually started doing more core exercises when I get the chance, I think between that and riding it has helped my conditioning. Problem I’m still having though is not using my lower body to hold me into the bike enough, something I need to consciously work in next few times I ride.
Focus on placing your balls of your feet on the pegs and point your toes inwards. Once you do that you’ll naturally be gripping the bike it’s so much easier to hold on with your legs when you make those small tweaks.
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ppalomino 7/31/2020 9:37am
7/31/2020 9:37am
Awesome thread and fun to read about your progress, keep it up! I’m not a beginner anymore but started late also and -always pushing to get better. One thing I’m consciously focusing on is gripping with the knees against the bike - this will save your upper body a lot of energy. Enjoy, looking forward to reading more about your progress!
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Markopolo400
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Markopolo400 7/31/2020 9:41am
7/31/2020 9:41am
I just turned 30. I don't feel like its old at all anymore LOL
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wildbill 7/31/2020 9:49am
7/31/2020 9:49am
gt80rider wrote:
Newbees later in life with some cash is what this industry/sport/hobby needs... Op... Hit a track.... As long as you don't just send it, it will...
Newbees later in life with some cash is what this industry/sport/hobby needs...

Op... Hit a track.... As long as you don't just send it, it will be even more fun than u imagine...
I think he should just send it with total disregard for life and limb.

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