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He’s retiring and gonna sell R-8’s for a living!
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He has said he would like to race the GP’s before retiring. Be nice to see him do it while he still younger.
He said in an interview this year that he’s no longer interested in racing GPs.
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Having watched his career from the beginning, it blows me away that his best season finish is 5th. This is a guy who led the first pro race he was ever in, won 2 250 titles and won 450 mains his rookie year. Yeah hes a headcase but hes got the talent and the work ethic.

Just really shows you hard it is to make it the top.
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Could the reason for not winning more races be the fault of the two Yamaha riders? Or does it have to be the bike? Just asking...
Could the reason for not winning more races be the fault of the two Yamaha riders?

Or does it have to be the bike? Just asking!!!!!!

So if Barcia and AP7 were on the KTM they would be scoring wins and top-five results all day long???
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That's a fair question; but, there's one glaring fact... Copper wasn't good nor was he happy over there. Then, he signs with KTM...and...now...he's in it EVERY...
That's a fair question; but, there's one glaring fact...

Copper wasn't good nor was he happy over there. Then, he signs with KTM...and...now...he's in it EVERY damn week.
True but there might be more to the Webb deal than just the bike. Could be the team, the culture, etc. I know some say otherwise but I think DeCoster can have a huge influence as well on a rider.

I also remember the story that Webb showed up to Aldon's and was given a quick attitude adjustment about they don't train at 80% at the Baker's Factory like he used to do.

Maybe Webb was not in good enough shape at Yamaha. That makes a huge difference. Plus he was hurt there. Can't train and ride much when you are hurt.
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kpiper wrote:
Could the reason for not winning more races be the fault of the two Yamaha riders? Or does it have to be the bike? Just asking...
Could the reason for not winning more races be the fault of the two Yamaha riders?

Or does it have to be the bike? Just asking!!!!!!

So if Barcia and AP7 were on the KTM they would be scoring wins and top-five results all day long???
TeamGreen wrote:
That's a fair question; but, there's one glaring fact... Copper wasn't good nor was he happy over there. Then, he signs with KTM...and...now...he's in it EVERY...
That's a fair question; but, there's one glaring fact...

Copper wasn't good nor was he happy over there. Then, he signs with KTM...and...now...he's in it EVERY damn week.
kpiper wrote:
True but there might be more to the Webb deal than just the bike. Could be the team, the culture, etc. I know some say otherwise...
True but there might be more to the Webb deal than just the bike. Could be the team, the culture, etc. I know some say otherwise but I think DeCoster can have a huge influence as well on a rider.

I also remember the story that Webb showed up to Aldon's and was given a quick attitude adjustment about they don't train at 80% at the Baker's Factory like he used to do.

Maybe Webb was not in good enough shape at Yamaha. That makes a huge difference. Plus he was hurt there. Can't train and ride much when you are hurt.
Its also worth noting that while Webb was at Yamaha, he was making $2M/year on his contract and doing that for a couple of years regardless of performance means he was financially set up for life if he was smart with his money. When he went to KTM, he had to take a pay cut and make big money on a performance basis. Obviously, he's making more money now that he's riding better. But don't under estimate the $$ factor in terms of motivation.

If I were a betting man, I'd put money that it was a combination of things: didn't like the bike, didn't like the team, team didn't help to adapt the bike to him, he didn't train like he trains now at Baker factory, Decoster jerked a knot in his tail if he didn't perform at KTM, and he had a very cushy contract when at Yamaha (not financially hungry).
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That's a fair question; but, there's one glaring fact... Copper wasn't good nor was he happy over there. Then, he signs with KTM...and...now...he's in it EVERY...
That's a fair question; but, there's one glaring fact...

Copper wasn't good nor was he happy over there. Then, he signs with KTM...and...now...he's in it EVERY damn week.
kpiper wrote:
True but there might be more to the Webb deal than just the bike. Could be the team, the culture, etc. I know some say otherwise...
True but there might be more to the Webb deal than just the bike. Could be the team, the culture, etc. I know some say otherwise but I think DeCoster can have a huge influence as well on a rider.

I also remember the story that Webb showed up to Aldon's and was given a quick attitude adjustment about they don't train at 80% at the Baker's Factory like he used to do.

Maybe Webb was not in good enough shape at Yamaha. That makes a huge difference. Plus he was hurt there. Can't train and ride much when you are hurt.
TbonesPop wrote:
Its also worth noting that while Webb was at Yamaha, he was making $2M/year on his contract and doing that for a couple of years regardless...
Its also worth noting that while Webb was at Yamaha, he was making $2M/year on his contract and doing that for a couple of years regardless of performance means he was financially set up for life if he was smart with his money. When he went to KTM, he had to take a pay cut and make big money on a performance basis. Obviously, he's making more money now that he's riding better. But don't under estimate the $$ factor in terms of motivation.

If I were a betting man, I'd put money that it was a combination of things: didn't like the bike, didn't like the team, team didn't help to adapt the bike to him, he didn't train like he trains now at Baker factory, Decoster jerked a knot in his tail if he didn't perform at KTM, and he had a very cushy contract when at Yamaha (not financially hungry).
That all makes good sense.

Am I wrong but didn't he start to have some good results on the Yamaha and then got hurt? I remember him crashing on a small jump.

It could also be he was a bit tired from winning his 250 titles. They put out a big effort mentally and physically winning the 250 titles as well. He might have needed some time to rejuvenate and then got hurt.
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It's the bike (his, not the stock one). If Barcia wasn't good enough, he wouldn't have won ANY races on the bike. Some tracks he looks like he's struggling to stay on the bike lap after lap.
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TbonesPop 6/22/2020 9:02pm
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kpiper wrote:
That all makes good sense. Am I wrong but didn't he start to have some good results on the Yamaha and then got hurt? I remember...
That all makes good sense.

Am I wrong but didn't he start to have some good results on the Yamaha and then got hurt? I remember him crashing on a small jump.

It could also be he was a bit tired from winning his 250 titles. They put out a big effort mentally and physically winning the 250 titles as well. He might have needed some time to rejuvenate and then got hurt.
IIRC, Webb was hurt but still able to ride. He's been hurt several times this year and gutted out some pretty incredible rides. I wouldn't put too much into his injuries as long as he was able to ride. I think the biggest factors were DeCoster's attitude adjustment and a race team that will do literally anything as long as its legal to make a bike work for a rider's needs. Its not so much that it was the KTM, but a team committed to R&D and doing whatever it takes to get the rider comfortable on the bike. JMHO
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kpiper wrote:
True but there might be more to the Webb deal than just the bike. Could be the team, the culture, etc. I know some say otherwise...
True but there might be more to the Webb deal than just the bike. Could be the team, the culture, etc. I know some say otherwise but I think DeCoster can have a huge influence as well on a rider.

I also remember the story that Webb showed up to Aldon's and was given a quick attitude adjustment about they don't train at 80% at the Baker's Factory like he used to do.

Maybe Webb was not in good enough shape at Yamaha. That makes a huge difference. Plus he was hurt there. Can't train and ride much when you are hurt.
TbonesPop wrote:
Its also worth noting that while Webb was at Yamaha, he was making $2M/year on his contract and doing that for a couple of years regardless...
Its also worth noting that while Webb was at Yamaha, he was making $2M/year on his contract and doing that for a couple of years regardless of performance means he was financially set up for life if he was smart with his money. When he went to KTM, he had to take a pay cut and make big money on a performance basis. Obviously, he's making more money now that he's riding better. But don't under estimate the $$ factor in terms of motivation.

If I were a betting man, I'd put money that it was a combination of things: didn't like the bike, didn't like the team, team didn't help to adapt the bike to him, he didn't train like he trains now at Baker factory, Decoster jerked a knot in his tail if he didn't perform at KTM, and he had a very cushy contract when at Yamaha (not financially hungry).
kpiper wrote:
That all makes good sense. Am I wrong but didn't he start to have some good results on the Yamaha and then got hurt? I remember...
That all makes good sense.

Am I wrong but didn't he start to have some good results on the Yamaha and then got hurt? I remember him crashing on a small jump.

It could also be he was a bit tired from winning his 250 titles. They put out a big effort mentally and physically winning the 250 titles as well. He might have needed some time to rejuvenate and then got hurt.
Webb gave an interview shortly in to his tenure with KTM. Said he learned the first day at Bakers he was doing it all wrong at Yamaha. Said he rode at 60-70% during the week because he knew he could "turn it on, on race day." But his first session at Bakers he was close to 4 seconds on average slower than the rest of the 450 guys. Said he knew at that moment his training and his attitude toward race prep was wrong.
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Maybe Yamaha needs to figure out why their 250 is consistently 2 seconds faster around a supercross track than their 450.
Everything else is same(frame/geometry) but motor?
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TbonesPop wrote:
Its also worth noting that while Webb was at Yamaha, he was making $2M/year on his contract and doing that for a couple of years regardless...
Its also worth noting that while Webb was at Yamaha, he was making $2M/year on his contract and doing that for a couple of years regardless of performance means he was financially set up for life if he was smart with his money. When he went to KTM, he had to take a pay cut and make big money on a performance basis. Obviously, he's making more money now that he's riding better. But don't under estimate the $$ factor in terms of motivation.

If I were a betting man, I'd put money that it was a combination of things: didn't like the bike, didn't like the team, team didn't help to adapt the bike to him, he didn't train like he trains now at Baker factory, Decoster jerked a knot in his tail if he didn't perform at KTM, and he had a very cushy contract when at Yamaha (not financially hungry).
kpiper wrote:
That all makes good sense. Am I wrong but didn't he start to have some good results on the Yamaha and then got hurt? I remember...
That all makes good sense.

Am I wrong but didn't he start to have some good results on the Yamaha and then got hurt? I remember him crashing on a small jump.

It could also be he was a bit tired from winning his 250 titles. They put out a big effort mentally and physically winning the 250 titles as well. He might have needed some time to rejuvenate and then got hurt.
mister2dt wrote:
Webb gave an interview shortly in to his tenure with KTM. Said he learned the first day at Bakers he was doing it all wrong at...
Webb gave an interview shortly in to his tenure with KTM. Said he learned the first day at Bakers he was doing it all wrong at Yamaha. Said he rode at 60-70% during the week because he knew he could "turn it on, on race day." But his first session at Bakers he was close to 4 seconds on average slower than the rest of the 450 guys. Said he knew at that moment his training and his attitude toward race prep was wrong.
It annoys me so much that so many doesn't know about that interview when they're talking about the Yamaha being crap. Webb would've "failed" similarly on any other bike those two first years because of his own doings not training right.

As for the Yamaha Factory 450. There is so much anecdotal evidence of the team being badly managed and especially bad regarding the testing and everything involving bike development. I really, really hope Ferrandis gets the KTM ride or that Star starts a 450 program.
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So is the factory Yamaha 450 not good? Just curious because I’ve heard pulp and keefer rave about how it’s the best 450 to buy right now
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Have you previously told Barcia he’s a tool?
I've no recollection of doing so!
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The bike definitely seems like the issue. Ever since they went to the motor mounting change it's been a struggle for anyone on that bike. Webb...
The bike definitely seems like the issue. Ever since they went to the motor mounting change it's been a struggle for anyone on that bike.

Webb may be the perfect example. A couple years on that bike nearly ended his career and then two years on another manufacturer have produced a championship and a bundle of wins.

Also the rumors of AC taking less money at Kawi and turning down a reportedly large offer at Yamaha to stay away from the bike doesn't look great.

Seeing Barcia at team Tedder or Rocky Mountain could potentially work. I think a bigger name will go to Team Tedder after Davalos' speed at SLC. People forget they are running the same bike as Rocky Mountain and apparently have full factory support.
I'd say Team Tedder are happy with Davalos and I'm sure they can find a spot for Barcia, especially after their little practice battle in Oakland (I think) at the start of the season...
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If I am a team manager, he needs to turn up with a big bucket of money.. Peick made him look daft on the Suzuki, Bloss...
If I am a team manager, he needs to turn up with a big bucket of money.. Peick made him look daft on the Suzuki, Bloss has made him look daft in SLC.

Sadly I think he will end up in MXGP, taking a seat that someone more deserving should get.
Agree. But who would want him?
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F&S Suzuki


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Sounds like he might be making way for Ferandis. If Gas Gas does set up a US based team, I hope he is on it.
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PBRvince wrote:
So is the factory Yamaha 450 not good? Just curious because I’ve heard pulp and keefer rave about how it’s the best 450 to buy right...
So is the factory Yamaha 450 not good? Just curious because I’ve heard pulp and keefer rave about how it’s the best 450 to buy right now
Matthes will tell you its the best bike until another brand pays him more to do so. Like him trying to get Chad Reed to say its a good bike, Chad just laughs.
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PBRvince wrote:
So is the factory Yamaha 450 not good? Just curious because I’ve heard pulp and keefer rave about how it’s the best 450 to buy right...
So is the factory Yamaha 450 not good? Just curious because I’ve heard pulp and keefer rave about how it’s the best 450 to buy right now
Keefer did a pod cast explaining the traits of each bike and which one will suit you. It’s a bit more honest but he still fluffs the Yamaha up a bit
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PBRvince wrote:
So is the factory Yamaha 450 not good? Just curious because I’ve heard pulp and keefer rave about how it’s the best 450 to buy right...
So is the factory Yamaha 450 not good? Just curious because I’ve heard pulp and keefer rave about how it’s the best 450 to buy right now
gregyou wrote:
Keefer did a pod cast explaining the traits of each bike and which one will suit you. It’s a bit more honest but he still fluffs...
Keefer did a pod cast explaining the traits of each bike and which one will suit you. It’s a bit more honest but he still fluffs the Yamaha up a bit
I think everyone is aware the yz450f in standard trim that is available to the public is a great package. Just as keefer explains. I feel Keefer gives quality feedback on every brand good and bad.
The "Factory Bike" that Barcia and AP ride would be a different beast all together and id assume Keefers comments on that bike would be vastly different. Id like to hear them though thats for sure.
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PBRvince wrote:
So is the factory Yamaha 450 not good? Just curious because I’ve heard pulp and keefer rave about how it’s the best 450 to buy right...
So is the factory Yamaha 450 not good? Just curious because I’ve heard pulp and keefer rave about how it’s the best 450 to buy right now
gregyou wrote:
Keefer did a pod cast explaining the traits of each bike and which one will suit you. It’s a bit more honest but he still fluffs...
Keefer did a pod cast explaining the traits of each bike and which one will suit you. It’s a bit more honest but he still fluffs the Yamaha up a bit
mxmaniac wrote:
I think everyone is aware the yz450f in standard trim that is available to the public is a great package. Just as keefer explains. I feel...
I think everyone is aware the yz450f in standard trim that is available to the public is a great package. Just as keefer explains. I feel Keefer gives quality feedback on every brand good and bad.
The "Factory Bike" that Barcia and AP ride would be a different beast all together and id assume Keefers comments on that bike would be vastly different. Id like to hear them though thats for sure.
They can’t change the frame on the factory bike, so you would think in that way they would have a similar feel.
For get where I was listening the other week but barcia mentioned it about the yz being a heavy bike and it didn’t suit hard pack
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kpiper wrote:
Could the reason for not winning more races be the fault of the two Yamaha riders? Or does it have to be the bike? Just asking...
Could the reason for not winning more races be the fault of the two Yamaha riders?

Or does it have to be the bike? Just asking!!!!!!

So if Barcia and AP7 were on the KTM they would be scoring wins and top-five results all day long???
TeamGreen wrote:
That's a fair question; but, there's one glaring fact... Copper wasn't good nor was he happy over there. Then, he signs with KTM...and...now...he's in it EVERY...
That's a fair question; but, there's one glaring fact...

Copper wasn't good nor was he happy over there. Then, he signs with KTM...and...now...he's in it EVERY damn week.
Also a ton of restructuring and buckling down by Cooper. He admitted that he didn’t train 100%. A new bike is exciting, add in Aldon and a discipline routine while putting on the work boots and really giving it your all, is huge in the scenario.
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That all makes good sense. Am I wrong but didn't he start to have some good results on the Yamaha and then got hurt? I remember...
That all makes good sense.

Am I wrong but didn't he start to have some good results on the Yamaha and then got hurt? I remember him crashing on a small jump.

It could also be he was a bit tired from winning his 250 titles. They put out a big effort mentally and physically winning the 250 titles as well. He might have needed some time to rejuvenate and then got hurt.
TbonesPop wrote:
IIRC, Webb was hurt but still able to ride. He's been hurt several times this year and gutted out some pretty incredible rides. I wouldn't put...
IIRC, Webb was hurt but still able to ride. He's been hurt several times this year and gutted out some pretty incredible rides. I wouldn't put too much into his injuries as long as he was able to ride. I think the biggest factors were DeCoster's attitude adjustment and a race team that will do literally anything as long as its legal to make a bike work for a rider's needs. Its not so much that it was the KTM, but a team committed to R&D and doing whatever it takes to get the rider comfortable on the bike. JMHO
Looks like Webb missed several SX races in 2017 and 2018.
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PBRvince wrote:
So is the factory Yamaha 450 not good? Just curious because I’ve heard pulp and keefer rave about how it’s the best 450 to buy right...
So is the factory Yamaha 450 not good? Just curious because I’ve heard pulp and keefer rave about how it’s the best 450 to buy right now
Chris99Flannery wrote:
Matthes will tell you its the best bike until another brand pays him more to do so. Like him trying to get Chad Reed to say...
Matthes will tell you its the best bike until another brand pays him more to do so. Like him trying to get Chad Reed to say its a good bike, Chad just laughs.
The production bike is amazing. Clearly there is a disconnect on the 450 team
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kpiper wrote:
Could the reason for not winning more races be the fault of the two Yamaha riders? Or does it have to be the bike? Just asking...
Could the reason for not winning more races be the fault of the two Yamaha riders?

Or does it have to be the bike? Just asking!!!!!!

So if Barcia and AP7 were on the KTM they would be scoring wins and top-five results all day long???
TeamGreen wrote:
That's a fair question; but, there's one glaring fact... Copper wasn't good nor was he happy over there. Then, he signs with KTM...and...now...he's in it EVERY...
That's a fair question; but, there's one glaring fact...

Copper wasn't good nor was he happy over there. Then, he signs with KTM...and...now...he's in it EVERY damn week.
Zycki11 wrote:
Also a ton of restructuring and buckling down by Cooper. He admitted that he didn’t train 100%. A new bike is exciting, add in Aldon and...
Also a ton of restructuring and buckling down by Cooper. He admitted that he didn’t train 100%. A new bike is exciting, add in Aldon and a discipline routine while putting on the work boots and really giving it your all, is huge in the scenario.
I concur.

But, let's also recognize -everything- mentioned as far as "imporving Cooper's game" is Team oriented & the Team is who makes the bike work like it does.

Also, the production bike is superb...in both cases.
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Regarding the Yamaha 450, I remember an interview Matthes did with Peick, I cannot remember if it was post-race or on the PulpMX show, but Peick was speaking openly of his time on the JGR Yamaha versus the Suzuki. His main point was that he could get set up to ride well on either bike, but he felt the "window" of optimal setup on the Yamaha was much more narrow. Now this is obviously going back to the 2015/16 Yamaha but some of this maybe still rings true with the current bike?
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If I am a team manager, he needs to turn up with a big bucket of money.. Peick made him look daft on the Suzuki, Bloss...
If I am a team manager, he needs to turn up with a big bucket of money.. Peick made him look daft on the Suzuki, Bloss has made him look daft in SLC.

Sadly I think he will end up in MXGP, taking a seat that someone more deserving should get.
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Agree. But who would want him?
Well seeing as I read he isn't interested in doing GP's any more, I am guessing nobody.

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That's a fair question; but, there's one glaring fact... Copper wasn't good nor was he happy over there. Then, he signs with KTM...and...now...he's in it EVERY...
That's a fair question; but, there's one glaring fact...

Copper wasn't good nor was he happy over there. Then, he signs with KTM...and...now...he's in it EVERY damn week.
Zycki11 wrote:
Also a ton of restructuring and buckling down by Cooper. He admitted that he didn’t train 100%. A new bike is exciting, add in Aldon and...
Also a ton of restructuring and buckling down by Cooper. He admitted that he didn’t train 100%. A new bike is exciting, add in Aldon and a discipline routine while putting on the work boots and really giving it your all, is huge in the scenario.
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I concur. But, let's also recognize -everything- mentioned as far as "imporving Cooper's game" is Team oriented & the Team is who makes the bike work...
I concur.

But, let's also recognize -everything- mentioned as far as "imporving Cooper's game" is Team oriented & the Team is who makes the bike work like it does.

Also, the production bike is superb...in both cases.
True, clearly Yamaha has struggled with a disconnect between Japan/USA and the riders. Hopefully they turn it around. The more color in the mains the better. Ktm has done a terrific job, but i am getting sick of the Orange, white, other orange, black, and soon to be running red ktm bikes. That’s flooding the market.
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Zycki11 wrote:
Also a ton of restructuring and buckling down by Cooper. He admitted that he didn’t train 100%. A new bike is exciting, add in Aldon and...
Also a ton of restructuring and buckling down by Cooper. He admitted that he didn’t train 100%. A new bike is exciting, add in Aldon and a discipline routine while putting on the work boots and really giving it your all, is huge in the scenario.
TeamGreen wrote:
I concur. But, let's also recognize -everything- mentioned as far as "imporving Cooper's game" is Team oriented & the Team is who makes the bike work...
I concur.

But, let's also recognize -everything- mentioned as far as "imporving Cooper's game" is Team oriented & the Team is who makes the bike work like it does.

Also, the production bike is superb...in both cases.
Zycki11 wrote:
True, clearly Yamaha has struggled with a disconnect between Japan/USA and the riders. Hopefully they turn it around. The more color in the mains the better...
True, clearly Yamaha has struggled with a disconnect between Japan/USA and the riders. Hopefully they turn it around. The more color in the mains the better. Ktm has done a terrific job, but i am getting sick of the Orange, white, other orange, black, and soon to be running red ktm bikes. That’s flooding the market.
Nothing is stopping the other manufacturers to do the same and support more 450 teams.

They all have deeper pockets than KTM.

In my opinion Honda or Kawasaki should support a RMATVMC type of effort. It would create at least 2 more seats for 250 riders to move up.
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kage173 6/23/2020 11:44am
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Barcia has been on 3 out of 5 bikes. All with the same results. It ain't the bike
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