Black flag uber lappers?

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Edited Date/Time 6/8/2020 3:03pm
How many laps down until they should start pulling guys off the track lol? 3? 4?

Unreal race by Webb and ET. I still can't believe what I just saw.
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6/7/2020 5:23pm
Those lappers were absolutely horrible!!!!!!
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TeamGreen
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6/7/2020 5:24pm
It's all part of racing
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6/7/2020 5:26pm
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Those lappers were absolutely horrible!!!!!!
The way I see it... Cooper and Eli were absolutely incredible tonight. I guess the glass can either be half empty or half full, your choice
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6/7/2020 5:26pm Edited Date/Time 6/7/2020 5:28pm
TeamGreen wrote:
It's all part of racing
I'm mostly kidding. Navigating the lappers was the best part of that race. They were going by them so fast, it looked like a GNCC. (edit: no disrespect to the lappers intended at all. I know they're pissed)
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6/7/2020 5:30pm
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Those lappers were absolutely horrible!!!!!!
ti473 wrote:
The way I see it... Cooper and Eli were absolutely incredible tonight. I guess the glass can either be half empty or half full, your choice
I completely agree. Tomac and Webb were incredible! No one could touch them. But the amount of lappers in the way was unreal. I get they are a part of racing, but when they are consistently in the way it gets really frustrating. Without them, I don’t think Webb would have been as close as he was the last few laps.
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6/7/2020 6:12pm
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Those lappers were absolutely horrible!!!!!!
ti473 wrote:
The way I see it... Cooper and Eli were absolutely incredible tonight. I guess the glass can either be half empty or half full, your choice
mattyhamz2 wrote:
I completely agree. Tomac and Webb were incredible! No one could touch them. But the amount of lappers in the way was unreal. I get they...
I completely agree. Tomac and Webb were incredible! No one could touch them. But the amount of lappers in the way was unreal. I get they are a part of racing, but when they are consistently in the way it gets really frustrating. Without them, I don’t think Webb would have been as close as he was the last few laps.
That was just an unreal display. I'm trying to think where two guys were just that much better on a given day. Fooken crazy.

So fun to watch. I'm pumped!
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6/7/2020 6:47pm
Lappers are "Moving Obsacles"...

You should get extra points for each one Laughing
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6/7/2020 6:51pm
Roczen was lapped twice. Everyone qualified to make the main. Let them finish the race they’re in, IMO.
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6/7/2020 7:02pm
The lappers made it a tight race and an exciting finish.

Without them Eli would have cruised to an easy win. They should try a little harder to get out of the way though.
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6/7/2020 7:58pm
How about no more arenacross??
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6/7/2020 10:27pm Edited Date/Time 6/7/2020 10:27pm
It looked to me like the lappers affected both about the same. If not for the green bike that got in Webb’s way right at the end, we may have seen much closer finish.
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6/7/2020 11:33pm
crowe176 wrote:
How many laps down until they should start pulling guys off the track lol? 3? 4? Unreal race by Webb and ET. I still can't believe...
How many laps down until they should start pulling guys off the track lol? 3? 4?

Unreal race by Webb and ET. I still can't believe what I just saw.
Lappers are part of the deal and they played a big roll in what see saw last night.
6/8/2020 12:10am
They have the ability to go outside the stadium, don't they? Wish they would utilize that purely just to add some length to the track.
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6/8/2020 2:45am
TeamGreen wrote:
It's all part of racing
Respectfully disagree. Lappers should not have an effect on the front runner’s race. It’s frustrating af as a fan having lappers have such a drastic involvement like they did in the 250 class this week.
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6/8/2020 2:50am
Lappers add excitement and luck factor but it's definitely unsafe in situations like today and ulti it doesn't end in a lapper hurting a Tomac or a Webb I doubt they'll do something
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6/8/2020 5:04am
So, weeding the field down to 4 guys is good? Makes a good show? How do you figure that?

You do realize the lappers, are still racing, right? They may not be racing for the win, but they are racing for their position and points.

So you want to deny them the ability to race a full race, as full as they can, and earn 5th, 6th, 10th or 13th and the year end points paying points and bonus paying positions?
This is fair how?

So, many of you talk about how much the riders earn (or how little), but now you want to take that away from them...."Oh, well, you went a lap down, get off the track, you loser. You don't deserve to be able to improve your position on the track and increase your earnings"

That is what you're saying when you want to kick riders to the curb because they got lapped.
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6/8/2020 5:50am
EngIceDave wrote:
So, weeding the field down to 4 guys is good? Makes a good show? How do you figure that? You do realize the lappers, are still...
So, weeding the field down to 4 guys is good? Makes a good show? How do you figure that?

You do realize the lappers, are still racing, right? They may not be racing for the win, but they are racing for their position and points.

So you want to deny them the ability to race a full race, as full as they can, and earn 5th, 6th, 10th or 13th and the year end points paying points and bonus paying positions?
This is fair how?

So, many of you talk about how much the riders earn (or how little), but now you want to take that away from them...."Oh, well, you went a lap down, get off the track, you loser. You don't deserve to be able to improve your position on the track and increase your earnings"

That is what you're saying when you want to kick riders to the curb because they got lapped.
There were only two guys racing that race. . .

And I'm not advocating they pull the lappers.

If you're arguing about "fair", you're gonna be busy for a long while. Life isn't fair.
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6/8/2020 6:04am
Was on the absolute edge of my seat the entire race. At this point in the season bring on the lappers. Hell yeah
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6/8/2020 6:18am
Good grief.... Longer lap times equals less lappers... Do we really want lappers determining the race winner?
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6/8/2020 6:31am Edited Date/Time 6/8/2020 6:33am
I like the idea of stopping the race midway, eliminating the last 8 riders (or therabouts) and having a single file restart. Would make for better racing IMO.
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6/8/2020 7:10am
TeamGreen wrote:
It's all part of racing
Agreed 100%
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slipdog
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6/8/2020 7:10am
Can we black flag internet whiners? Asking for myself...
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6/8/2020 9:26am
slipdog wrote:
Can we black flag internet whiners? Asking for myself...
I think GuyB has that flag somewhere.
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6/8/2020 9:40am
I like the idea of stopping the race midway, eliminating the last 8 riders (or therabouts) and having a single file restart. Would make for better...
I like the idea of stopping the race midway, eliminating the last 8 riders (or therabouts) and having a single file restart. Would make for better racing IMO.

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6/8/2020 11:34am
They should pull the the last place guy on every lap until one guy is left. 22th lap a 🏁victory lap. 🏁
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6/8/2020 11:39am
I like the idea of stopping the race midway, eliminating the last 8 riders (or therabouts) and having a single file restart. Would make for better...
I like the idea of stopping the race midway, eliminating the last 8 riders (or therabouts) and having a single file restart. Would make for better racing IMO.
Yeah, dude, I'm sorry, but that seriously has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read on here, and I have been here since before here was here......
6/8/2020 11:45am
I like the idea of stopping the race midway, eliminating the last 8 riders (or therabouts) and having a single file restart. Would make for better...
I like the idea of stopping the race midway, eliminating the last 8 riders (or therabouts) and having a single file restart. Would make for better racing IMO.
EngIceDave wrote:
Yeah, dude, I'm sorry, but that seriously has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read on here, and I have been here...
Yeah, dude, I'm sorry, but that seriously has to be one of the stupidest things I have ever read on here, and I have been here since before here was here......
Yeah, you're sorry. And you should apologize to Goat Breker who used the idea at the GFI Perris Invitational years back.
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6/8/2020 11:47am
I like the idea of stopping the race midway, eliminating the last 8 riders (or therabouts) and having a single file restart. Would make for better...
I like the idea of stopping the race midway, eliminating the last 8 riders (or therabouts) and having a single file restart. Would make for better racing IMO.
They could have a "pit bike", like a "pit car".

Extra points if it's an actual pit bike, like a crf50, that actually busts some air.
6/8/2020 11:51am
No. That’s what the blue flag is for.

This thread comes up each season. Why do people cry so much about lappers? Does it hurt to watch someone struggle or not put in effort? They paid and made the Main therefore they race until the finish or cannot continue.

I think these threads come from the everyone gets a trophy crowd.

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