Gary Jones not happy with His Bikes & memorabilia being sold without his Permission?

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Bigfoot wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2020/02/09/403132/s780_IMG_4738.jpg[/img] Does anyone here know the circumstances regarding Rex's OW?


Does anyone here know the circumstances regarding Rex's OW?
BobbyM wrote:
Yes... Rex does. Different screen name and all that kinda stuff.
Of all the people Terry Good had to screw over, Rex Staten.....

What do you thing Rex Staten would have done back in the day, and could do to that weasel even now.
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2/11/2020 12:53pm Edited Date/Time 2/11/2020 12:57pm
Lostboy and Cablecable, I see you guys aren't free of speculation either.. and what I take away from your comments, it doesn't matter how the bikes were obtained, it is OK as long as you like the outcome because the outcome benefits you as you would be able to see them in the museum if you decide to travel to Chicago. You can't speculate how much Gary cared about these bikes.. they were all carefully covered under sheets in a padlocked storage containers. You can see in the pics that the whole family wheeled them out so they could enjoy looking at them. It is a twisted leap of an assumption to think that the bikes that helped him win those national championships didn't mean much to him. It is amazing how different observers can have such different viewpoints.. some opinions devoid of compassion and the importance of doing the right thing.
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lostboy819 wrote:
Everything you guys are posting is pure speculation plain and simple. I am sure all Gary's friends will be taking his side and Jody will write...
Everything you guys are posting is pure speculation plain and simple. I am sure all Gary's friends will be taking his side and Jody will write a big one sided article for MXA on how Gary was shafted etc but who knows what really happened, none of us that's for sure.
I am excited to see Terry Good putting together his museum and I have bought his DVDs and posters and will go as soon as it opens and the amount of riders contributing to him is amazing. Hannah, Decoster, Roberts etc. Greg Primm had a nice set up but got tired of dealing with so called "motocross riders" who spend all their time trying to tear everyone down and talking shit. Unfortunately the worst thing about trying to do something for the motocross community is the dick heads in the MX community.
CalRMX wrote:
Jody's not going to say anything, he's not going to miss the chance of being involved or maybe even having his photos memorabilia etc displayed. There's...
Jody's not going to say anything, he's not going to miss the chance of being involved or maybe even having his photos memorabilia etc displayed.

There's nothing on the MXA site yet, and probably will not be, that's my guess.

I hope you are right.
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A race bike is just a pile of metal without the racer..... I dont know where anyone gets off showing a bike without buy in from the racer. But to each his own.

If you find yourself in Chicago. head 1 hour north on route 41... just over the Wisconsin border on Russell road is a nice military collection that had more impact on the world than a dirt bike.
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Something very suspicious to me is the assumption that an AMMEX would belong to anyone but Gary (it was his brand).
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chuckie108 wrote:
Some real mind blowing perspectives on here. Bottom line, the legalese is irrelevant. Whatever property Good bought, has value because of the blood, sweat, and tears...
Some real mind blowing perspectives on here. Bottom line, the legalese is irrelevant. Whatever property Good bought, has value because of the blood, sweat, and tears put out by Don, Dwayne, and mostly Gary. Considering Gary is the last living member of that early family race unit, HE SHOULD HAVE anything he wants related to his families racing. Anyone not making an effort to see Gary have these physical manifestations of his families racing legacy, since he so dearly wants them, needs to get their head and heart in the right place. I don’t care if it’s his family, a collector, a “friend of Don’s”, whatever. Any decent human being would make sure Gary is cool with these racing heirlooms leaving the family. Considering they didn’t, is proof enough to me that all involved are some low class people.
mauidex wrote:
Best post I’ve read on the subject. All that
Needs to be said!!
well, if you listen to how gary jones talked about his dad on 'the whiskey throttle",sounds like a wheeler dealer. shady used car salesman type comes to mind.
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lostboy819 wrote:
Everything you guys are posting is pure speculation plain and simple. I am sure all Gary's friends will be taking his side and Jody will write...
Everything you guys are posting is pure speculation plain and simple. I am sure all Gary's friends will be taking his side and Jody will write a big one sided article for MXA on how Gary was shafted etc but who knows what really happened, none of us that's for sure.
I am excited to see Terry Good putting together his museum and I have bought his DVDs and posters and will go as soon as it opens and the amount of riders contributing to him is amazing. Hannah, Decoster, Roberts etc. Greg Primm had a nice set up but got tired of dealing with so called "motocross riders" who spend all their time trying to tear everyone down and talking shit. Unfortunately the worst thing about trying to do something for the motocross community is the dick heads in the MX community.
CalRMX wrote:
Jody's not going to say anything, he's not going to miss the chance of being involved or maybe even having his photos memorabilia etc displayed. There's...
Jody's not going to say anything, he's not going to miss the chance of being involved or maybe even having his photos memorabilia etc displayed.

There's nothing on the MXA site yet, and probably will not be, that's my guess.

lostboy819 wrote:
I hope you are right.
There's nothing on the MXA FB page that I can see.

Gary Jones will find out who his friends really are after this debacle
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2/12/2020 1:11am Edited Date/Time 2/12/2020 1:24am
I look fwd to making the trip to the museum and possibly slobbering like an old hound dog at the sight of the Works Bike's that I dearly loved as a kiddo, I might shed a tear or two also. Just a thought...How will this museum keep the doors open once us older fella's kick the bucket ?? I honestly don't see what the attraction will be to the younger crowd, due to the invasion of the four strokes. The location is way off the charts for prime territory also.
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CalRMX wrote:
There's nothing on the MXA FB page that I can see.

Gary Jones will find out who his friends really are after this debacle
Not really fair for you to decide what makes someone a friend, and just because MXA hasn't torched Good doesn't mean anything.
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ledger wrote:
I look fwd to making the trip to the museum and possibly slobbering like an old hound dog at the sight of the Works Bike's that...
I look fwd to making the trip to the museum and possibly slobbering like an old hound dog at the sight of the Works Bike's that I dearly loved as a kiddo, I might shed a tear or two also. Just a thought...How will this museum keep the doors open once us older fella's kick the bucket ?? I honestly don't see what the attraction will be to the younger crowd, due to the invasion of the four strokes. The location is way off the charts for prime territory also.
He doesn't need ticket sales to keep the doors open. In fact we are probably lucky he's going to open the door's and let us in.
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He doesn't need ticket sales to keep the doors open. In fact we are probably lucky he's going to open the door's and let us in.
Really??? Guess our understanding of fund raiser is different. He’s going to pay the rent or mortgage. The utility bills. Joel’s salary. Out of his own pocket indefinitely??? If so that’s great!!! Pretty bad business model though
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TeamGreen wrote:
Something very suspicious to me is the assumption that an AMMEX would belong to anyone but Gary (it was his brand).
I guess Gary's prototype open class bike won't be there.
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GIwasB4 wrote:
He doesn't need ticket sales to keep the doors open. In fact we are probably lucky he's going to open the door's and let us in.
mauidex wrote:
Really??? Guess our understanding of fund raiser is different. He’s going to pay the rent or mortgage. The utility bills. Joel’s salary. Out of his own...
Really??? Guess our understanding of fund raiser is different. He’s going to pay the rent or mortgage. The utility bills. Joel’s salary. Out of his own pocket indefinitely??? If so that’s great!!! Pretty bad business model though
Really
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Facts:

1) a guy didn’t keep track of his stuff, or at least the stuff he thinks is his!

2) said stuff got sold!
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CalRMX wrote:
There's nothing on the MXA FB page that I can see.

Gary Jones will find out who his friends really are after this debacle
500guy wrote:
Not really fair for you to decide what makes someone a friend, and just because MXA hasn't torched Good doesn't mean anything.
Really?

The fact they've said PRECISELY nothing says it all.
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Jody won’t say shit. Good says he’s running ads. Cash is king in Roland’s world!!
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I love the picture of the Elsinore with the red cylinder. Look close and you can see the reed valve setup he had back in the mid 70s. My buddy had one of those setups and it was very fast for the day.
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Facts:

1) a guy didn’t keep track of his stuff, or at least the stuff he thinks is his!

2) said stuff got sold!
20 pager....
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mauidex wrote:
Jody won’t say shit. Good says he’s running ads. Cash is king in Roland’s world!!
So much for Jody's rep as being the one who 'call's out the BS as he sees it'
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mauidex wrote:
Jody won’t say shit. Good says he’s running ads. Cash is king in Roland’s world!!
CalRMX wrote:
So much for Jody's rep as being the one who 'call's out the BS as he sees it'
That's because all of Gary's bikes need one more tooth on the rear sprocket. Laughing
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Lets hope tg doesn,t get the other three bikes...

whats the story on rex and kehoe then ?
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Facts:

1) a guy didn’t keep track of his stuff, or at least the stuff he thinks is his!

2) said stuff got sold!
What's this a troll or you just trying real hard to earn the "Biggest @ssh@le on the planet award". If you still have teeth, I would imagine you only say these kinds of things behind the safety of your keyboard.
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Facts:

1) a guy didn’t keep track of his stuff, or at least the stuff he thinks is his!

2) said stuff got sold!
What's this a troll or you just trying real hard to earn the "Biggest @ssh@le on the planet award". If you still have teeth, I would...
What's this a troll or you just trying real hard to earn the "Biggest @ssh@le on the planet award". If you still have teeth, I would imagine you only say these kinds of things behind the safety of your keyboard.
You don’t like the facts?


I’m in Texas if you need to see me!
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Facts:

1) a guy didn’t keep track of his stuff, or at least the stuff he thinks is his!

2) said stuff got sold!
What's this a troll or you just trying real hard to earn the "Biggest @ssh@le on the planet award". If you still have teeth, I would...
What's this a troll or you just trying real hard to earn the "Biggest @ssh@le on the planet award". If you still have teeth, I would imagine you only say these kinds of things behind the safety of your keyboard.
Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? My mom for instance is one of those people. She is a truck driver that has bad knees and a bad back from driving the truck, but you probably do not care about that case either. Oh well, I am not one of those people I am 6'4" 245lbs and I exercise every day. I would love to see you say something like that to my mom in front of me. Probably never happen though, you are probably just an internet tough guy. I doubt very seriously you would say that to someone’s face. Just my thought. What do you think. Oh I am sorry you probably do not have a brain. I, on the other hand, will be happy to buy you a plane ticket to come here and see if you have the nerve to say that to someone I know.
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kkawboy14 wrote:
Facts:

1) a guy didn’t keep track of his stuff, or at least the stuff he thinks is his!

2) said stuff got sold!
What's this a troll or you just trying real hard to earn the "Biggest @ssh@le on the planet award". If you still have teeth, I would...
What's this a troll or you just trying real hard to earn the "Biggest @ssh@le on the planet award". If you still have teeth, I would imagine you only say these kinds of things behind the safety of your keyboard.
Blgdaddy wrote:
Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? My mom for...
Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? My mom for instance is one of those people. She is a truck driver that has bad knees and a bad back from driving the truck, but you probably do not care about that case either. Oh well, I am not one of those people I am 6'4" 245lbs and I exercise every day. I would love to see you say something like that to my mom in front of me. Probably never happen though, you are probably just an internet tough guy. I doubt very seriously you would say that to someone’s face. Just my thought. What do you think. Oh I am sorry you probably do not have a brain. I, on the other hand, will be happy to buy you a plane ticket to come here and see if you have the nerve to say that to someone I know.
Lol..I wasn't sure if the first post was someone trolling or just being a jerk, but it is pretty clear what this one is.. doing its best to stray as far from the main topic as possible coming from someone who seems to have some (thin) skin in the game. The person gives no location in the USA and has only had 26 posts in the last 13 months.. obviously an alternative screen name for someone who went through a lot of trouble to concoct this convoluted gaslighting argument. I highly suspect we have T.Good, himself, here, if not a close friend. Having seen some of his wacky reactions this would be typical.

Gaslighting is a tactic often used by dishonest people to distract from the main topics or facts they don't like and to discredit people and their arguments, because they don't have solid, rational arguments of their own. Common traits of gaslighting is they diverge from the main topic and often tend to feign (phony) outrage with the details of the argument fairly far fetched. This is what we have here.. an argument that says that all @$$h@les should get a free pass because they might have a medical condition which is not only silly, but also a hypocritical argument since that same person he says he wants to beat up here may have the same medical condition as his "mother".. Lol.. while this is surely gaslighting, it is not a very clever one at all.

So not to let this attempt at gaslighting succeed, back to the main topic... T.Good took Gary Jone's race bikes after Gary told him he wanted to keep them. T.Good persisted and somehow got them from the property of the 93 year old mother, who could have been tricked or coerced easily at her tender age. All they needed was her signature to make it all look nice and legal.

What we don't know is what discussions Don Jones and T.Good had in the distant past although somehow nothing ever transpired during the years of discussion or even many years after Don's death, and T.Good has not shown proof of any written and signed agreement. You would assume he would if he had it since it would strengthen his story and might make him look a little less scummy.

T.Good makes you wonder with his inconsistent comments about how he first has Gary's bikes and then he doesn't have them. We may never know the truth to the details unless Gary Jones and T.Good care to reveal more, but we are pretty sure that T.Good went through a lot of effort to go behind the Champion rider's back to get the bikes for his museum, knowing they meant a lot to Gary, which almost goes without saying. That is the only thing we can give our opinions on.
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What's this a troll or you just trying real hard to earn the "Biggest @ssh@le on the planet award". If you still have teeth, I would...
What's this a troll or you just trying real hard to earn the "Biggest @ssh@le on the planet award". If you still have teeth, I would imagine you only say these kinds of things behind the safety of your keyboard.
Blgdaddy wrote:
Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? My mom for...
Are you aware that there are people in this world that have a severe medical condition which causes them to be that way? My mom for instance is one of those people. She is a truck driver that has bad knees and a bad back from driving the truck, but you probably do not care about that case either. Oh well, I am not one of those people I am 6'4" 245lbs and I exercise every day. I would love to see you say something like that to my mom in front of me. Probably never happen though, you are probably just an internet tough guy. I doubt very seriously you would say that to someone’s face. Just my thought. What do you think. Oh I am sorry you probably do not have a brain. I, on the other hand, will be happy to buy you a plane ticket to come here and see if you have the nerve to say that to someone I know.
Lol..I wasn't sure if the first post was someone trolling or just being a jerk, but it is pretty clear what this one is.. doing its...
Lol..I wasn't sure if the first post was someone trolling or just being a jerk, but it is pretty clear what this one is.. doing its best to stray as far from the main topic as possible coming from someone who seems to have some (thin) skin in the game. The person gives no location in the USA and has only had 26 posts in the last 13 months.. obviously an alternative screen name for someone who went through a lot of trouble to concoct this convoluted gaslighting argument. I highly suspect we have T.Good, himself, here, if not a close friend. Having seen some of his wacky reactions this would be typical.

Gaslighting is a tactic often used by dishonest people to distract from the main topics or facts they don't like and to discredit people and their arguments, because they don't have solid, rational arguments of their own. Common traits of gaslighting is they diverge from the main topic and often tend to feign (phony) outrage with the details of the argument fairly far fetched. This is what we have here.. an argument that says that all @$$h@les should get a free pass because they might have a medical condition which is not only silly, but also a hypocritical argument since that same person he says he wants to beat up here may have the same medical condition as his "mother".. Lol.. while this is surely gaslighting, it is not a very clever one at all.

So not to let this attempt at gaslighting succeed, back to the main topic... T.Good took Gary Jone's race bikes after Gary told him he wanted to keep them. T.Good persisted and somehow got them from the property of the 93 year old mother, who could have been tricked or coerced easily at her tender age. All they needed was her signature to make it all look nice and legal.

What we don't know is what discussions Don Jones and T.Good had in the distant past although somehow nothing ever transpired during the years of discussion or even many years after Don's death, and T.Good has not shown proof of any written and signed agreement. You would assume he would if he had it since it would strengthen his story and might make him look a little less scummy.

T.Good makes you wonder with his inconsistent comments about how he first has Gary's bikes and then he doesn't have them. We may never know the truth to the details unless Gary Jones and T.Good care to reveal more, but we are pretty sure that T.Good went through a lot of effort to go behind the Champion rider's back to get the bikes for his museum, knowing they meant a lot to Gary, which almost goes without saying. That is the only thing we can give our opinions on.
Lol, I laughed so hard last night when I read your post. I have no links with either side in this matter. I've been following this thread from the beginning and thought it was comical that someone (in this case, you) would play internet tough guy over someone else's lost toys. So I decided to highlight the ridiculousness of your words by copying and pasting one of the oldest internet rants around. Judging by your response and some thumbs down, it went right over some of your heads! Oh, well...lol! By the way, my opinion on Gary's predicament is, if your own family sells items from under you, you have very peculiar family dynamics to be addressed (privately), before publicly ranting about a stranger who was just (understandably) looking for his own interests.
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This is still going then. This thread has only made 2 things clear to me, Mr. Good seems shady and Gary was fast back when but now comes across like a bitch as an adult.
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This is still going then. This thread has only made 2 things clear to me, Mr. Good seems shady and Gary was fast back when but...
This is still going then. This thread has only made 2 things clear to me, Mr. Good seems shady and Gary was fast back when but now comes across like a bitch as an adult.
Really? Because He didn't want his memorabilia sold makes him a bitch? holy shit some of the things people come up with is insane.
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2/14/2020 2:22pm Edited Date/Time 2/14/2020 2:23pm
500guy wrote:
Really? Because He didn't want his memorabilia sold makes him a bitch? holy shit some of the things people come up with is insane.
I LOL'd Laughing

True story.....
And to think that statement came from some dude named Francis... Smile
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I LOL'd Laughing

True story.....
And to think that statement came from some dude named Francis... Smile
Any of you homo's touch my stuff I kill ya! LOL
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