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yz133rider
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12/24/2019 11:03am
Biblical amounts of sun.
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vdrsnk04
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12/24/2019 11:11am
Good lord I need to move.
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Myke
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12/24/2019 12:34pm
vdrsnk04 wrote:
Good lord I need to move.
FYI every so often it does drop into the high 50's here and you do end up spending alot of money on sunscreen so it's not all peaches and cream....
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moscrop940
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12/24/2019 12:44pm
vdrsnk04 wrote:
Good lord I need to move.
I don’t know where you live, but no. No you don’t.

If it weren’t for my entire family being local, I would have moved the minute I realized just how much money I spend just to live here.

Who knows, maybe you’re well off, and in that case it would be good, but if you’re middle class like most of us here, you’re giving away most of your money just for the letters CA to appear on your drivers license
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Myke
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12/24/2019 12:49pm
vdrsnk04 wrote:
Good lord I need to move.
moscrop940 wrote:
I don’t know where you live, but no. No you don’t. If it weren’t for my entire family being local, I would have moved the minute...
I don’t know where you live, but no. No you don’t.

If it weren’t for my entire family being local, I would have moved the minute I realized just how much money I spend just to live here.

Who knows, maybe you’re well off, and in that case it would be good, but if you’re middle class like most of us here, you’re giving away most of your money just for the letters CA to appear on your drivers license
He has a point. If I didn't live near the coast and make a decent salary I would probably chose a different state.

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Hman144
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12/24/2019 2:10pm Edited Date/Time 12/24/2019 2:35pm
You guys.

"....If it wasn't for all these things that make being here worthwhile, it would suck and I'd move..."
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moscrop940
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12/24/2019 3:14pm
Hman144 wrote:
You guys.

"....If it wasn't for all these things that make being here worthwhile, it would suck and I'd move..."
Dude nothing makes it worth while. The weather is good. That’s about it.

Traffic, homeless, insane tax rate, insane gas prices, insane house prices, insane cost of living, and literally insane politicians.

O sure we have the mountain and the beach within 2 hours , but with the cost to live down here makes it hard to afford the family outing to do so.

I am telling you, unless you make above 200k a year, you are working to pay the bills.

100k salary doesn’t get you a damn thing here, and it’s maddening.
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Tarz483
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12/24/2019 6:56pm







I Took all these And more Driving around So Cal and it's Pretty damn nice.
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12/24/2019 7:14pm
Tarz483 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393866/s1200_20191217_125553.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393867/s1200_20191217_125601.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393868/s1200_20191217_125607.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393869/s1200_20191217_125308.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393870/s1200_20191219_171225.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393871/s1200_20191220_150852.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393872/s1200_20191219_171021.jpg[/img] I Took all these And more Driving around So Cal and it's Pretty damn nice.







I Took all these And more Driving around So Cal and it's Pretty damn nice.
Give it time. Visiting vs living here are two completely different worlds. 2+ hours each way to work for most people, $100k a year doesn’t mean crap here and you’re basically classified as low income, average home cost between $550k-$650k on top of what Moscrop said.

Geographically, nothing beats California! But when you factor in the cost of living, it isn’t worth it. We wanted to get out of here bad, but couldn’t/can’t afford to.
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avidchimp
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12/24/2019 8:06pm
Like others above have said, living here, especially Los Angeles proper, on less than 200k a year is pretty rough.
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need2ride
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12/24/2019 8:22pm
avidchimp wrote:
Like others above have said, living here, especially Los Angeles proper, on less than 200k a year is pretty rough.
Hmmmm. Must be why Elizabeth Warren will probably carry the state.
gnarwhip
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12/24/2019 9:19pm
48°? Can’t beleive I’m gonna have to pack a hoodie. Unreal.
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Myke
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12/24/2019 9:46pm
avidchimp wrote:
Like others above have said, living here, especially Los Angeles proper, on less than 200k a year is pretty rough.
If you live a simple lifestyle and don't have any debt you can survive here on 100k a year but any less than that forget it.
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12/24/2019 9:47pm
Tarz483 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393866/s1200_20191217_125553.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393867/s1200_20191217_125601.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393868/s1200_20191217_125607.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393869/s1200_20191217_125308.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393870/s1200_20191219_171225.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393871/s1200_20191220_150852.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393872/s1200_20191219_171021.jpg[/img] I Took all these And more Driving around So Cal and it's Pretty damn nice.







I Took all these And more Driving around So Cal and it's Pretty damn nice.
mattyhamz2 wrote:
Give it time. Visiting vs living here are two completely different worlds. 2+ hours each way to work for most people, $100k a year doesn’t mean...
Give it time. Visiting vs living here are two completely different worlds. 2+ hours each way to work for most people, $100k a year doesn’t mean crap here and you’re basically classified as low income, average home cost between $550k-$650k on top of what Moscrop said.

Geographically, nothing beats California! But when you factor in the cost of living, it isn’t worth it. We wanted to get out of here bad, but couldn’t/can’t afford to.
Living in LA is desirable so lots of people want to live there. Housing supply hasn’t kept up with demand.

It’s purely a supply and demand problem.

I think L.A. loves this and for that it will always be full of wealthy people and wannabes.
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brocster
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12/24/2019 10:13pm Edited Date/Time 12/24/2019 10:17pm
avidchimp wrote:
Like others above have said, living here, especially Los Angeles proper, on less than 200k a year is pretty rough.
Myke wrote:
If you live a simple lifestyle and don't have any debt you can survive here on 100k a year but any less than that forget it.
I make right at 100k and I am doing fine...
You Californians are spoiled and don’t realize how good you have it.
Yeah it appears cheaper to live other places but the add on fees are not always advertised. Flood insurance, electric bills, natural gas bills, etc etc. it all comes out as a wash when you break it down to hours of available outside activities. Yeah it’s cheaper to live other places but the availability to do things outside are limited by weather and geographical location. For example. There are no hills to bomb on a mtb in the South and if there were it would be weather permitting. Here in Aliso Viejo I can get to trails within minutes and ride them damn near 52 weeks a year and to me that is worth a few extra dollars for gas, taxes, whatever. Not to mention the availability of several tracks about an hour away. In the South there was 1 within an hour, another about 1.5 and all the rest 2+. Hrs. with that number being about 3 in total. So 5 ish tracks less than 2 hrs. All the rest 3 hrs plus.
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moscrop940
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12/24/2019 10:39pm
Tarz483 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393866/s1200_20191217_125553.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393867/s1200_20191217_125601.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393868/s1200_20191217_125607.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393869/s1200_20191217_125308.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393870/s1200_20191219_171225.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393871/s1200_20191220_150852.jpg[/img] [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2019/12/24/393872/s1200_20191219_171021.jpg[/img] I Took all these And more Driving around So Cal and it's Pretty damn nice.







I Took all these And more Driving around So Cal and it's Pretty damn nice.
Your photos are great, however nothing short of misleading, namely your second photo from the bottom.

What that specific photo doesn’t clarify is the cars to the right of you are all put PARKED on that 241/91 connector....to go the 1 mile to the 91 is easily 30 minutes to an hour, and then you are sitting in a minimum of another hour of traffic just to move another 3 or 4 miles once you’re on the 91. O and that doesn’t include the mile of traffic BEFORE your photo was taken

I know, I drove it daily for well over 2 years. Some days were better than others sure, but 9 times outta 10 it was a parking lot. To go 15-20 miles took 2 hours if I got off at 5....it was an absolute nightmare m.

Sitting at a test track and parking on the beach are awesome, but those are vacation photos, not reality photos....
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trexx
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12/24/2019 10:43pm
avidchimp wrote:
Like others above have said, living here, especially Los Angeles proper, on less than 200k a year is pretty rough.
Myke wrote:
If you live a simple lifestyle and don't have any debt you can survive here on 100k a year but any less than that forget it.
brocster wrote:
I make right at 100k and I am doing fine... You Californians are spoiled and don’t realize how good you have it. Yeah it appears cheaper...
I make right at 100k and I am doing fine...
You Californians are spoiled and don’t realize how good you have it.
Yeah it appears cheaper to live other places but the add on fees are not always advertised. Flood insurance, electric bills, natural gas bills, etc etc. it all comes out as a wash when you break it down to hours of available outside activities. Yeah it’s cheaper to live other places but the availability to do things outside are limited by weather and geographical location. For example. There are no hills to bomb on a mtb in the South and if there were it would be weather permitting. Here in Aliso Viejo I can get to trails within minutes and ride them damn near 52 weeks a year and to me that is worth a few extra dollars for gas, taxes, whatever. Not to mention the availability of several tracks about an hour away. In the South there was 1 within an hour, another about 1.5 and all the rest 2+. Hrs. with that number being about 3 in total. So 5 ish tracks less than 2 hrs. All the rest 3 hrs plus.
I mean geographically speaking us Californians are spoiled.... but financially speaking we get shafted and in my county you need to make 200-300k a year to live comfortably.
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12/24/2019 11:56pm
I’m about to buy my first house here. A lot of people think that’s stupid because of the cost. I’ll report back in 10 years
D_L118
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12/25/2019 2:58am
I’m about to buy my first house here. A lot of people think that’s stupid because of the cost. I’ll report back in 10 years
Nice!
Leaving Belgium for Ca ?
Myke
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12/25/2019 5:04am
One other thing that people don't mention is that jobs tend to pay more out here than in rural areas in other parts of the country so that offsets the higher cost of living some.

The fair cost comparisons would be living in a major city compared to SoCal not some little town in the middle of nowhere.
brocster
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12/25/2019 7:28am
Myke wrote:
If you live a simple lifestyle and don't have any debt you can survive here on 100k a year but any less than that forget it.
brocster wrote:
I make right at 100k and I am doing fine... You Californians are spoiled and don’t realize how good you have it. Yeah it appears cheaper...
I make right at 100k and I am doing fine...
You Californians are spoiled and don’t realize how good you have it.
Yeah it appears cheaper to live other places but the add on fees are not always advertised. Flood insurance, electric bills, natural gas bills, etc etc. it all comes out as a wash when you break it down to hours of available outside activities. Yeah it’s cheaper to live other places but the availability to do things outside are limited by weather and geographical location. For example. There are no hills to bomb on a mtb in the South and if there were it would be weather permitting. Here in Aliso Viejo I can get to trails within minutes and ride them damn near 52 weeks a year and to me that is worth a few extra dollars for gas, taxes, whatever. Not to mention the availability of several tracks about an hour away. In the South there was 1 within an hour, another about 1.5 and all the rest 2+. Hrs. with that number being about 3 in total. So 5 ish tracks less than 2 hrs. All the rest 3 hrs plus.
trexx wrote:
I mean geographically speaking us Californians are spoiled.... but financially speaking we get shafted and in my county you need to make 200-300k a year to...
I mean geographically speaking us Californians are spoiled.... but financially speaking we get shafted and in my county you need to make 200-300k a year to live comfortably.
Not true. Did you read my first sentence. I live in Aliso Viejo, own a 2br 2 bat Townhome with attached 2 car garage, have nice vehicles, dirt bikes, MTB’s and eat out fairly often. Would I like to have more? Hell yeah, do I need to have more? not exactly. Steer clear of getting caught up in the game and you’ll be golden.

BTW. I work with people that make $75k and they too are doing fine as well. Hell, he even commutes 52 mi each way to work.
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Racer111
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12/25/2019 7:38am
Hman144 wrote:
You guys.

"....If it wasn't for all these things that make being here worthwhile, it would suck and I'd move..."
moscrop940 wrote:
Dude nothing makes it worth while. The weather is good. That’s about it. Traffic, homeless, insane tax rate, insane gas prices, insane house prices, insane cost...
Dude nothing makes it worth while. The weather is good. That’s about it.

Traffic, homeless, insane tax rate, insane gas prices, insane house prices, insane cost of living, and literally insane politicians.

O sure we have the mountain and the beach within 2 hours , but with the cost to live down here makes it hard to afford the family outing to do so.

I am telling you, unless you make above 200k a year, you are working to pay the bills.

100k salary doesn’t get you a damn thing here, and it’s maddening.
That’s why I live in NC. I also have the beach or the mountains 2 hours away and I have a brand new 5 bedroom house with 3.5 baths, completely finished basement and a mortgage payment of 1100.00 a month. Weather is decent year round.
Win win!
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trexx
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12/25/2019 7:48am
brocster wrote:
I make right at 100k and I am doing fine... You Californians are spoiled and don’t realize how good you have it. Yeah it appears cheaper...
I make right at 100k and I am doing fine...
You Californians are spoiled and don’t realize how good you have it.
Yeah it appears cheaper to live other places but the add on fees are not always advertised. Flood insurance, electric bills, natural gas bills, etc etc. it all comes out as a wash when you break it down to hours of available outside activities. Yeah it’s cheaper to live other places but the availability to do things outside are limited by weather and geographical location. For example. There are no hills to bomb on a mtb in the South and if there were it would be weather permitting. Here in Aliso Viejo I can get to trails within minutes and ride them damn near 52 weeks a year and to me that is worth a few extra dollars for gas, taxes, whatever. Not to mention the availability of several tracks about an hour away. In the South there was 1 within an hour, another about 1.5 and all the rest 2+. Hrs. with that number being about 3 in total. So 5 ish tracks less than 2 hrs. All the rest 3 hrs plus.
trexx wrote:
I mean geographically speaking us Californians are spoiled.... but financially speaking we get shafted and in my county you need to make 200-300k a year to...
I mean geographically speaking us Californians are spoiled.... but financially speaking we get shafted and in my county you need to make 200-300k a year to live comfortably.
brocster wrote:
Not true. Did you read my first sentence. I live in Aliso Viejo, own a 2br 2 bat Townhome with attached 2 car garage, have nice...
Not true. Did you read my first sentence. I live in Aliso Viejo, own a 2br 2 bat Townhome with attached 2 car garage, have nice vehicles, dirt bikes, MTB’s and eat out fairly often. Would I like to have more? Hell yeah, do I need to have more? not exactly. Steer clear of getting caught up in the game and you’ll be golden.

BTW. I work with people that make $75k and they too are doing fine as well. Hell, he even commutes 52 mi each way to work.
Did you read my last sentence? I’m not trying to argue with you, but I said MY county (which is SLO county). Anyway Merry Christmas everyone!
Myke
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12/25/2019 8:02am Edited Date/Time 12/25/2019 8:04am
trexx wrote:
I mean geographically speaking us Californians are spoiled.... but financially speaking we get shafted and in my county you need to make 200-300k a year to...
I mean geographically speaking us Californians are spoiled.... but financially speaking we get shafted and in my county you need to make 200-300k a year to live comfortably.
brocster wrote:
Not true. Did you read my first sentence. I live in Aliso Viejo, own a 2br 2 bat Townhome with attached 2 car garage, have nice...
Not true. Did you read my first sentence. I live in Aliso Viejo, own a 2br 2 bat Townhome with attached 2 car garage, have nice vehicles, dirt bikes, MTB’s and eat out fairly often. Would I like to have more? Hell yeah, do I need to have more? not exactly. Steer clear of getting caught up in the game and you’ll be golden.

BTW. I work with people that make $75k and they too are doing fine as well. Hell, he even commutes 52 mi each way to work.
trexx wrote:
Did you read my last sentence? I’m not trying to argue with you, but I said MY county (which is SLO county). Anyway Merry Christmas everyone!
I lived in Santa Margarita for a year and worked in SLO I found it pretty affordable compared to San Diego where I live now.

I was bored out of my mind and it was cold up there so I had to move closer to SoCal.
trexx
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12/25/2019 8:23am
brocster wrote:
Not true. Did you read my first sentence. I live in Aliso Viejo, own a 2br 2 bat Townhome with attached 2 car garage, have nice...
Not true. Did you read my first sentence. I live in Aliso Viejo, own a 2br 2 bat Townhome with attached 2 car garage, have nice vehicles, dirt bikes, MTB’s and eat out fairly often. Would I like to have more? Hell yeah, do I need to have more? not exactly. Steer clear of getting caught up in the game and you’ll be golden.

BTW. I work with people that make $75k and they too are doing fine as well. Hell, he even commutes 52 mi each way to work.
trexx wrote:
Did you read my last sentence? I’m not trying to argue with you, but I said MY county (which is SLO county). Anyway Merry Christmas everyone!
Myke wrote:
I lived in Santa Margarita for a year and worked in SLO I found it pretty affordable compared to San Diego where I live now. I...
I lived in Santa Margarita for a year and worked in SLO I found it pretty affordable compared to San Diego where I live now.

I was bored out of my mind and it was cold up there so I had to move closer to SoCal.
How long ago was this? Running $1700/month in rent for a 1bd 1bath apartment, and $4.10 for diesel. And yes, north county weather is pretty cold during the winter months but pretty damn hot in summer.
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12/25/2019 8:32am
Hman144 wrote:
You guys.

"....If it wasn't for all these things that make being here worthwhile, it would suck and I'd move..."
moscrop940 wrote:
Dude nothing makes it worth while. The weather is good. That’s about it. Traffic, homeless, insane tax rate, insane gas prices, insane house prices, insane cost...
Dude nothing makes it worth while. The weather is good. That’s about it.

Traffic, homeless, insane tax rate, insane gas prices, insane house prices, insane cost of living, and literally insane politicians.

O sure we have the mountain and the beach within 2 hours , but with the cost to live down here makes it hard to afford the family outing to do so.

I am telling you, unless you make above 200k a year, you are working to pay the bills.

100k salary doesn’t get you a damn thing here, and it’s maddening.
Racer111 wrote:
That’s why I live in NC. I also have the beach or the mountains 2 hours away and I have a brand new 5 bedroom house...
That’s why I live in NC. I also have the beach or the mountains 2 hours away and I have a brand new 5 bedroom house with 3.5 baths, completely finished basement and a mortgage payment of 1100.00 a month. Weather is decent year round.
Win win!
Amen
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Myke
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12/25/2019 9:22am
trexx wrote:
Did you read my last sentence? I’m not trying to argue with you, but I said MY county (which is SLO county). Anyway Merry Christmas everyone!
Myke wrote:
I lived in Santa Margarita for a year and worked in SLO I found it pretty affordable compared to San Diego where I live now. I...
I lived in Santa Margarita for a year and worked in SLO I found it pretty affordable compared to San Diego where I live now.

I was bored out of my mind and it was cold up there so I had to move closer to SoCal.
trexx wrote:
How long ago was this? Running $1700/month in rent for a 1bd 1bath apartment, and $4.10 for diesel. And yes, north county weather is pretty cold...
How long ago was this? Running $1700/month in rent for a 1bd 1bath apartment, and $4.10 for diesel. And yes, north county weather is pretty cold during the winter months but pretty damn hot in summer.
About 6 years ago now.

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