Bernard Kerr: World Cup DH racer wants to race SX

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tcallahan707 12/21/2019 1:29pm
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I fully understand the issue with the licensing loophole. What I don't understand is a bunch of haters saying he doesn't stand a chance. It feels...
I fully understand the issue with the licensing loophole. What I don't understand is a bunch of haters saying he doesn't stand a chance. It feels more like a gatekeeping response. The egos around here are bruised by the thought of "an outsider" making it further than they ever will.

Bet most of you fools talking shit, with your racing experience and all, wouldn't huck a SX triple or practice skimming whoops and if you did, it wouldn't be nearly as clean.

Scarcity mentality on display and it's quite sad.

Rooting for Bernard even more now. Fuck the haters.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."
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Do you think that you can like someone yet acknowledge that they will likely fail at any given endeavor? If you think that this is impossible...
Do you think that you can like someone yet acknowledge that they will likely fail at any given endeavor? If you think that this is impossible, I don’t know what to tell you.
Do you think it’s possible that when I said “haters”, I’m not referring to whether or not you like someone?

Saying someone with likely fail at something, based solely on the fact that they are attempting something that it’s hard and most others would fail at is the definition of “hater”. That’s the whole point of my post. “I can’t do that so shame on you for trying.”

Honestly, his result at A1 doesn’t determine if he fails or not. Bernard chose to put himself in an uncomfortable situation, is putting in the work, and appears to be enjoying it. The guy already succeeded. Not making the night show would only be a failure in the eyes of a bunch of people who’s opinions don’t mean shit. Refer back to Mr. Roosevelt’s quote if more explanation is necessary.
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tcallahan707 12/21/2019 1:34pm
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"hur dur you haters wouldn't hit a SX triple or skim the whoops and he'll make it farther than you ever did" That's such a juvenile...
"hur dur you haters wouldn't hit a SX triple or skim the whoops and he'll make it farther than you ever did"

That's such a juvenile response and has absolutely nothing to do with this thread or the concerns expressed here
So you are gonna paraphrase one paragraph of what I wrote, exclude the part about racing experience, and then claim my post doesn’t address the concerns expressed? Seems like a juvenile response to me.
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acres951 12/21/2019 1:42pm
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This is awesome. Done. Everyone else just stop.

I get the arguments, and someone like me shouldn’t be able to get a license and try. But this dude should.

Double standards are ok in this circumstance.

Who am I to tell people to stop debating this anyway, carry on.
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ti473 12/21/2019 2:14pm
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I think the use of the word "hater" should be prohibited after your 13th birthday
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LungButter 12/21/2019 2:28pm
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I'm watching a video of him with ARay and he does a practice start and says "this is my first ever start, what do I do?"

It's embarrassing that a guy who has never raced can just get an SX license when highly qualified amateurs who have spent their whole life preparing to be a pro SX/MX racer have to race SX Futures to be able to line up.

Call me a hater, say he's faster than I'll ever be, say what you want....this dude should not have a license.
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Jeff_Crutcher 12/21/2019 2:38pm
12/21/2019 2:38pm
Two things totally irrelevant to A1:

1. I am enjoying the shit out of watching someone improve so drastically. This is really cool stuff.

2. The net gain on cross promotion is absolutely gigantic. If ONE mtb guy is inspired by Kerr and goes and buys his first dirt bike- every effort is validated and Kerr has done more for the sport than most.
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hatin' bitches ain't happy and happy bitches ain't hatin
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Looking pretty decent in the whoops after a couple weeks of practice :whistle: View this post on Instagram I think we are going in the right...
Looking pretty decent in the whoops after a couple weeks of practice Whistling

Those whoops are not that gnarly like most tracks. Usually the whoops get gnarly first round of east coast.

But the way this guy has been progressing is pretty amazing I wish him all the luck! First year I did it I looked almost similar to his videos and trust me somehow there were worse people out there than me. I did it for a couple years but I did it on a bike that was the last year they allowed to race clapped out and Mx suspension( 4 years old i think?). Once I got my 450 license things got much easier. But he is progressing faster than anyone I’ve ever saw. Helps to have the support he does but he’s stil the guy on the bike going out there making it happen.
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GODZILLA 12/21/2019 3:07pm
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tcallahan707 wrote:
Do you think it’s possible that when I said “haters”, I’m not referring to whether or not you like someone? Saying someone with likely fail at...
Do you think it’s possible that when I said “haters”, I’m not referring to whether or not you like someone?

Saying someone with likely fail at something, based solely on the fact that they are attempting something that it’s hard and most others would fail at is the definition of “hater”. That’s the whole point of my post. “I can’t do that so shame on you for trying.”

Honestly, his result at A1 doesn’t determine if he fails or not. Bernard chose to put himself in an uncomfortable situation, is putting in the work, and appears to be enjoying it. The guy already succeeded. Not making the night show would only be a failure in the eyes of a bunch of people who’s opinions don’t mean shit. Refer back to Mr. Roosevelt’s quote if more explanation is necessary.
Let's be serious for one second. The guy has nothing to do in pro SX, there's not a chance he makes it into the night program, and that's a good thing 'cause he's dangerous both to himself and others. It's not based on the fact he's attempting something hard, it's based on his vids.
I'm glad if he's having the time of his life, but I feel like I'm watching a kid who got a Superman outfit for Xmas and says "Now I'm gonna learn to fly!".

Booh, I'm a hater.
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zippytech 12/21/2019 3:41pm
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Why does every one keep avoiding the question. How does he get a pro license?
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Chris99Flannery 12/21/2019 5:02pm
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I think it's cool on many levels. But can he t-bone yet?
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Who cares what vital members think about what this guy is doing, if this is his dream let him follow it. Majority of y’all would love to be someone in the industry or Be a pro rider. So why hate on him, he’s obviously has the skill to atleast ride a supercross track which 99% of people on here don’t have that skill to do....
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nealb129 12/21/2019 5:22pm
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This would have been a great “ask ping” question
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crowe176 12/21/2019 5:37pm
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rider892 wrote:
Who cares what vital members think about what this guy is doing, if this is his dream let him follow it. Majority of y’all would love...
Who cares what vital members think about what this guy is doing, if this is his dream let him follow it. Majority of y’all would love to be someone in the industry or Be a pro rider. So why hate on him, he’s obviously has the skill to atleast ride a supercross track which 99% of people on here don’t have that skill to do....
A good number of guys that are forced to race the SX Futures have the skills to be out there with him.. That's the issue. I don't have a problem with him qualifying. He obviously is capable and has loads of talent. I hope he qualify's, but the process is Vitalmx level retarded.
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8tensolutions 12/21/2019 8:11pm
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zippytech wrote:
Why does every one keep avoiding the question. How does he get a pro license?
He applies like everyone else. He does not have to go through the futures program because it does not apply for non US citizens. Who cares anyway, this is GREAT exposure for the sport and we should all be excited he is trying to do this.
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ktmdan 12/21/2019 9:08pm
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A Ryan Dungey is signed up for the pro class at a Mtb enduro in Austin, TX for this Saturday. Anxious to see how he does...
A Ryan Dungey is signed up for the pro class at a Mtb enduro in Austin, TX for this Saturday. Anxious to see how he does. It would be hard to believe that he could compete at the highest level of DH though.
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Not hard at all to believe
Struggling against local enduro riders in Texas is why I would find it hard to believe he could compete at the highest level of DH. Awesome to see him competing though!
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tcallahan707 12/21/2019 11:45pm
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tcallahan707 wrote:
Do you think it’s possible that when I said “haters”, I’m not referring to whether or not you like someone? Saying someone with likely fail at...
Do you think it’s possible that when I said “haters”, I’m not referring to whether or not you like someone?

Saying someone with likely fail at something, based solely on the fact that they are attempting something that it’s hard and most others would fail at is the definition of “hater”. That’s the whole point of my post. “I can’t do that so shame on you for trying.”

Honestly, his result at A1 doesn’t determine if he fails or not. Bernard chose to put himself in an uncomfortable situation, is putting in the work, and appears to be enjoying it. The guy already succeeded. Not making the night show would only be a failure in the eyes of a bunch of people who’s opinions don’t mean shit. Refer back to Mr. Roosevelt’s quote if more explanation is necessary.
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Let's be serious for one second. The guy has nothing to do in pro SX, there's not a chance he makes it into the night program...
Let's be serious for one second. The guy has nothing to do in pro SX, there's not a chance he makes it into the night program, and that's a good thing 'cause he's dangerous both to himself and others. It's not based on the fact he's attempting something hard, it's based on his vids.
I'm glad if he's having the time of his life, but I feel like I'm watching a kid who got a Superman outfit for Xmas and says "Now I'm gonna learn to fly!".

Booh, I'm a hater.
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Who are you comparing his vids to? He’s already C practice ready. His pace of improvement makes it seem like he has a chance to be B practice ready in a couple weeks. Bike skills and some instruction from the King can go a long ways.
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Bearuno 12/22/2019 1:13am
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Do American riders have to qualify - as in get a SX 'endorsement' or enough points or whatever it was through the old AX series, that I think they had to do previously, and the now Supercross Futures set up?
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rsd47 12/22/2019 3:29am
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Maybe the issue is that the SX futures program is broken, not that people from other countries get to circumvent it. Fix SX futures so that riders who are clearly good enough aren't forced to do it rather than getting offended because people from other countries get to avoid a system that clearly has no flexibility in the US and makes no sense in some situations.

Really hope Bernard does well and gets close to getting into the night show. But even if he doesn't, I think this project is cool. Cool to see the likes of MC supporting him too, hope this all brings more exposure to the sport
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crowe176 12/22/2019 5:12am
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tcallahan707 wrote:
Do you think it’s possible that when I said “haters”, I’m not referring to whether or not you like someone? Saying someone with likely fail at...
Do you think it’s possible that when I said “haters”, I’m not referring to whether or not you like someone?

Saying someone with likely fail at something, based solely on the fact that they are attempting something that it’s hard and most others would fail at is the definition of “hater”. That’s the whole point of my post. “I can’t do that so shame on you for trying.”

Honestly, his result at A1 doesn’t determine if he fails or not. Bernard chose to put himself in an uncomfortable situation, is putting in the work, and appears to be enjoying it. The guy already succeeded. Not making the night show would only be a failure in the eyes of a bunch of people who’s opinions don’t mean shit. Refer back to Mr. Roosevelt’s quote if more explanation is necessary.
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Let's be serious for one second. The guy has nothing to do in pro SX, there's not a chance he makes it into the night program...
Let's be serious for one second. The guy has nothing to do in pro SX, there's not a chance he makes it into the night program, and that's a good thing 'cause he's dangerous both to himself and others. It's not based on the fact he's attempting something hard, it's based on his vids.
I'm glad if he's having the time of his life, but I feel like I'm watching a kid who got a Superman outfit for Xmas and says "Now I'm gonna learn to fly!".

Booh, I'm a hater.
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Who are you comparing his vids to? He’s already C practice ready. His pace of improvement makes it seem like he has a chance to be...
Who are you comparing his vids to? He’s already C practice ready. His pace of improvement makes it seem like he has a chance to be B practice ready in a couple weeks. Bike skills and some instruction from the King can go a long ways.
Let’s not start sucking Bernards dick just yet. A1 isn’t the Kawi practice track.
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ktmdan wrote:
Struggling against local enduro riders in Texas is why I would find it hard to believe he could compete at the highest level of DH. Awesome...
Struggling against local enduro riders in Texas is why I would find it hard to believe he could compete at the highest level of DH. Awesome to see him competing though!
He's been a top 20 world cup guy this year. Not exactly a slouch on the bike.
(The screenshot is cutoff because the uci site is a little wonky)

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ti473 12/22/2019 6:26am
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ktmdan wrote:
Struggling against local enduro riders in Texas is why I would find it hard to believe he could compete at the highest level of DH. Awesome...
Struggling against local enduro riders in Texas is why I would find it hard to believe he could compete at the highest level of DH. Awesome to see him competing though!
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He's been a top 20 world cup guy this year. Not exactly a slouch on the bike. (The screenshot is cutoff because the uci site is...
He's been a top 20 world cup guy this year. Not exactly a slouch on the bike.
(The screenshot is cutoff because the uci site is a little wonky)

You fail...
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Let's be serious for one second. The guy has nothing to do in pro SX, there's not a chance he makes it into the night program...
Let's be serious for one second. The guy has nothing to do in pro SX, there's not a chance he makes it into the night program, and that's a good thing 'cause he's dangerous both to himself and others. It's not based on the fact he's attempting something hard, it's based on his vids.
I'm glad if he's having the time of his life, but I feel like I'm watching a kid who got a Superman outfit for Xmas and says "Now I'm gonna learn to fly!".

Booh, I'm a hater.
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tcallahan707 wrote:
Who are you comparing his vids to? He’s already C practice ready. His pace of improvement makes it seem like he has a chance to be...
Who are you comparing his vids to? He’s already C practice ready. His pace of improvement makes it seem like he has a chance to be B practice ready in a couple weeks. Bike skills and some instruction from the King can go a long ways.
crowe176 wrote:
Let’s not start sucking Bernards dick just yet. A1 isn’t the Kawi practice track.
You're right. It's likely going to be easier.
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zippytech wrote:
Why does every one keep avoiding the question. How does he get a pro license?
He explains it in the video when he picks up the bike from Jeremy and in the Swap interview........Dry
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GODZILLA 12/22/2019 8:48am
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tcallahan707 wrote:
Who are you comparing his vids to? He’s already C practice ready. His pace of improvement makes it seem like he has a chance to be...
Who are you comparing his vids to? He’s already C practice ready. His pace of improvement makes it seem like he has a chance to be B practice ready in a couple weeks. Bike skills and some instruction from the King can go a long ways.
If you say so...
He looks to me like a slower and less comfortable version of Vicki Golden -for whom I have the utmost respect.
But in all honesty, I don't Kerr.
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GODZILLA 12/22/2019 8:56am
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Let's be serious for one second. The guy has nothing to do in pro SX, there's not a chance he makes it into the night program...
Let's be serious for one second. The guy has nothing to do in pro SX, there's not a chance he makes it into the night program, and that's a good thing 'cause he's dangerous both to himself and others. It's not based on the fact he's attempting something hard, it's based on his vids.
I'm glad if he's having the time of his life, but I feel like I'm watching a kid who got a Superman outfit for Xmas and says "Now I'm gonna learn to fly!".

Booh, I'm a hater.
Wink
tcallahan707 wrote:
Who are you comparing his vids to? He’s already C practice ready. His pace of improvement makes it seem like he has a chance to be...
Who are you comparing his vids to? He’s already C practice ready. His pace of improvement makes it seem like he has a chance to be B practice ready in a couple weeks. Bike skills and some instruction from the King can go a long ways.
crowe176 wrote:
Let’s not start sucking Bernards dick just yet. A1 isn’t the Kawi practice track.
Maybe I got shit in my eyes, but I find his whoops technique and speed absolutely terrible.
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I haven’t read this thread, just the OP. My 2 cents is that this makes total sense to me...skiing is like motocross on your feet. Motocross...
I haven’t read this thread, just the OP. My 2 cents is that this makes total sense to me...skiing is like motocross on your feet. Motocross is like any other sport; it’s very easy to learn but very hard to compete at the top level and/or make a living at it. However if you put in the hard work and have a little luck, it can be done. I don’t question a world cup downhiller’s work ethic, do you? After watching the documentary of Lindsey Vons final season, I would say she could give Eli and Kenny a run for their money!Huh
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I hope you read a little more careful in med school. He's a world cup downhill BICYCLE racer. The easiest place to get new motorcyclist is...
I hope you read a little more careful in med school. He's a world cup downhill BICYCLE racer.

The easiest place to get new motorcyclist is from current bicyclist. It's crazy how against cross-over of participation or coverage some of you guys are.

If red bull isn't going to do straight rhythm anymore, they should do a 3 event deal where each guy competes in bicycle downhill and cross country and a motocross race. Combine scores for overall winner. Get men and women from each discipline to mix it up and cross polinate the fan base.
Lmao...yeah, I said I didn’t read the thread; my bad. Carful reading...no reading...whichever. When I hear World Cup downhill racer I think of one sport and one sport only....but I still stand by my Lindsey Von statement!
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Motofinne 12/22/2019 9:03pm
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Matthes did a podcast with Bernard. Such a nice guy!
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bergie11 12/23/2019 1:37am
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Matthes did a podcast with Bernard. Such a nice guy!
Another great interview by Matthes. Another opportunity to learn how he got a licence.Dont shoot the messenger comes to mind.
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