2021 last year for new two strokes in CA

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They have, ole buddy hasn't been back since his account got cut a few years ago. I havent been kicked yet, but I know itll happen eventually. Gibby doesnt discriminate, starting shit will get you the boot. The majority just wants to be the victimized minority and I get tired of seeing them cry.
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blackdiamond 9/18/2019 11:06pm
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motoarmageddon wrote:
They banned the sale of new two strokes after 2021 but the 2021 and older two strokes will be legal to ride.they will be grandfathered in...
They banned the sale of new two strokes after 2021 but the 2021 and older two strokes will be legal to ride.they will be grandfathered in. Its America still. So far.
Not really. California has more in common with Communist China than it does with America these days.

It's like living in a 3rd world country sometimes.
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blackdiamond 9/18/2019 11:09pm
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Wells423 wrote:
I don’t see how anyone living in California could be proud of their state.
In a recent poll 68% of Californians said they wanted to leave.
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blackdiamond 9/18/2019 11:12pm
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If you really wanna stick it to the cali dems, maybe delete your social media and smash your iphone. Tell your doctor you dont want any...
If you really wanna stick it to the cali dems, maybe delete your social media and smash your iphone.

Tell your doctor you dont want any of the drugs or technology developed here.

Plus, make sure you dont have any cali companies in your 401k
That would be easy, most of the companies are moving to Texas anyway.
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blackdiamond 9/18/2019 11:32pm
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Alex.434 wrote:
https://e360.yale.edu/features/why-california-is-standing-firm-against-trump-on-auto-emissions Good read. Talking about how the major OEMs are pushing for it also. Lot of CA hate, per usual. Yet it's the most populated state...
https://e360.yale.edu/features/why-california-is-standing-firm-against-…

Good read. Talking about how the major OEMs are pushing for it also.

Lot of CA hate, per usual. Yet it's the most populated state in America and world's 5th largest economy. CA drives the US and without our tax dollars, the US gov and many red states would be hurting.

There are aggressive emissions targets across the board, including everyday vehicles. This is in line with what the majority of the other western nations are pushing for. I have a few friends that work in technology that car OEMs use in EV's... they have calls with the MAJOR OEMs every week. They tell me EVERY MAJOR OEM is going hard in the paint for EV.... they all are planning their futures around EV.

Can't wait to listen to all the whiny Texans when that state goes blue over the next 10 years. A state built on 'big oil' no less.

I like the posters above who said 'if you hate CA so much, stop using our stuff'. hahaha. Like that will ever happen. Bunch of hypocrites.
CALIFORNIA:

1. Highest poverty rate in the nation

2. Largest homeless population in the US

3. Ranked 8th largest GDP by state when adjusted per capita

4. Highest number of people over 25 years old that did not graduate HS

5. Ranked 37th out of 50 states for unemployment

6. Ranked 46th out of 50 states for schools

7. Ranked 49th out of 50 states for infrastructure

8. Ranked 50th out of 50 states for small business (for the 13th year in a row)

9. Consumes 37% of all welfare services in the US but is only 12% of the population

Yup, Cali is a third world shit-hole but we have amazing landscapers Woohoo

I cant wait to start my new job in Texas next month.
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blackdiamond 9/18/2019 11:34pm
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Yes. there are several districts in the LA area that had 140% voter turnout in 2016.

Let that sink in.
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blackdiamond 9/18/2019 11:41pm
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AussieParaMX wrote:
There’s 350 million people in America. That means that if ever person in America put in $3, that part of social security would be covered...... really...
There’s 350 million people in America. That means that if ever person in America put in $3, that part of social security would be covered...... really seems pretty damn fair to me. As a paraplegic who would likely be homeless and living on the street without the Australian social security go allow me to get back into the workforce.
What about the other $183K that EACH taxpayer currently owes?

https://www.usdebtclock.org/
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Wells423 9/19/2019 8:54am
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Alex.434 wrote:
https://e360.yale.edu/features/why-california-is-standing-firm-against-trump-on-auto-emissions Good read. Talking about how the major OEMs are pushing for it also. Lot of CA hate, per usual. Yet it's the most populated state...
https://e360.yale.edu/features/why-california-is-standing-firm-against-…

Good read. Talking about how the major OEMs are pushing for it also.

Lot of CA hate, per usual. Yet it's the most populated state in America and world's 5th largest economy. CA drives the US and without our tax dollars, the US gov and many red states would be hurting.

There are aggressive emissions targets across the board, including everyday vehicles. This is in line with what the majority of the other western nations are pushing for. I have a few friends that work in technology that car OEMs use in EV's... they have calls with the MAJOR OEMs every week. They tell me EVERY MAJOR OEM is going hard in the paint for EV.... they all are planning their futures around EV.

Can't wait to listen to all the whiny Texans when that state goes blue over the next 10 years. A state built on 'big oil' no less.

I like the posters above who said 'if you hate CA so much, stop using our stuff'. hahaha. Like that will ever happen. Bunch of hypocrites.
blackdiamond wrote:
CALIFORNIA: 1. Highest poverty rate in the nation 2. Largest homeless population in the US 3. Ranked 8th largest GDP by state when adjusted per capita...
CALIFORNIA:

1. Highest poverty rate in the nation

2. Largest homeless population in the US

3. Ranked 8th largest GDP by state when adjusted per capita

4. Highest number of people over 25 years old that did not graduate HS

5. Ranked 37th out of 50 states for unemployment

6. Ranked 46th out of 50 states for schools

7. Ranked 49th out of 50 states for infrastructure

8. Ranked 50th out of 50 states for small business (for the 13th year in a row)

9. Consumes 37% of all welfare services in the US but is only 12% of the population

Yup, Cali is a third world shit-hole but we have amazing landscapers Woohoo

I cant wait to start my new job in Texas next month.
What part of Texas are you head to bud?
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peelout 9/19/2019 9:01am
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California, what a shit show that place has become
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blackdiamond 9/19/2019 10:17am
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Wells423 wrote:
What part of Texas are you head to bud?
Downtown Fort Worth.

My new apartment is 13mi from Village Creek MX!
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Brock1198 9/19/2019 11:27am
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blackdiamond wrote:
Downtown Fort Worth.

My new apartment is 13mi from Village Creek MX!
Hell yeah man. Ive been in Texas all my life and the tracks around here are killer. If youve never ridden underground mx its a must ride on my list. Freedom mx, Cycle Ranch and Austin Del Valle are my favorites. 3 Palms tracks are a bit tame but the facility is killer.
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blackdiamond 9/19/2019 12:42pm
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Brock1198 wrote:
Hell yeah man. Ive been in Texas all my life and the tracks around here are killer. If youve never ridden underground mx its a must...
Hell yeah man. Ive been in Texas all my life and the tracks around here are killer. If youve never ridden underground mx its a must ride on my list. Freedom mx, Cycle Ranch and Austin Del Valle are my favorites. 3 Palms tracks are a bit tame but the facility is killer.
There is no doubt in my mind that they are better than So Cal.
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Who cares. This is what they vote for and there's 0% chance of me ever living in that hell hole.
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blackdiamond 9/19/2019 2:40pm
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Who cares. This is what they vote for and there's 0% chance of me ever living in that hell hole.
I meant the Texas tracks are better, I think you read it wrong.
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Sierra Ranger 9/19/2019 2:44pm
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I haven't seen anything anywhere in the thread or the links saying that "2021 is the last year for two-strokes in CA". Is it just BS, or what?
Dirty Points 9/19/2019 2:49pm
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Sierra Ranger wrote:
I haven't seen anything anywhere in the thread or the links saying that "2021 is the last year for two-strokes in CA". Is it just BS...
I haven't seen anything anywhere in the thread or the links saying that "2021 is the last year for two-strokes in CA". Is it just BS, or what?
Socalmx70 covered it on page 3
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Brock1198 wrote:
Hell yeah man. Ive been in Texas all my life and the tracks around here are killer. If youve never ridden underground mx its a must...
Hell yeah man. Ive been in Texas all my life and the tracks around here are killer. If youve never ridden underground mx its a must ride on my list. Freedom mx, Cycle Ranch and Austin Del Valle are my favorites. 3 Palms tracks are a bit tame but the facility is killer.
blackdiamond wrote:
There is no doubt in my mind that they are better than So Cal.
Don’t forget Rio Bravo. I loved that place when I lived in Texas. Not any big jumps but the dirt and the flow there was awesome. Really low key there too. Great vet track
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Yup....may as well finish it all the way off...no reason to go half way in the destruction of the place.
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Wells423 wrote:
I don’t see how anyone living in California could be proud of their state.
blackdiamond wrote:
In a recent poll 68% of Californians said they wanted to leave.
yeah, i think i remember seeing that too, but i forget where. i'm sure you have a link to that poll, right?

otherwise, i'm sure you would never have posted that......
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California will be going to the Supreme Court to defend their punitive Emissions any longer. The likelihood that they make this law is seriously diminishing, the same goes for the EU. Global Warming Hoaxtards were not so crazy after all.
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Wells423 wrote:
I don’t see how anyone living in California could be proud of their state.
blackdiamond wrote:
In a recent poll 68% of Californians said they wanted to leave.
SLAPAHO wrote:
yeah, i think i remember seeing that too, but i forget where. i'm sure you have a link to that poll, right? otherwise, i'm sure you...
yeah, i think i remember seeing that too, but i forget where. i'm sure you have a link to that poll, right?

otherwise, i'm sure you would never have posted that......
crickets, that's what i thought....
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Alex.434 9/20/2019 4:44pm
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Today, these states all joined CA in suing the Trump administration to keep CA's emission rules. Source: https://www.apnews.com/557dac75254a4342b4176c064a534e3b

Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Hawaii
Illinois
Maine
Massachusetts
Maryland
Michigan
Minnesota
Nevada
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
Vermont
Virginia
Washington
Wisconsin
and the District of Columbia.

FWIW: the above states represent roughly 54% of the US population. Change is coming whether or not the science denying luddites like it or not. States rights baby! Let's not like 'big gub'mit' interfere in our gosh darn states rights!

Also today: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-49777279

Hey NASA: https://climate.nasa.gov

Yo UN: https://www.un.org/en/sections/issues-depth/climate-change/
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wilh72 9/20/2019 5:47pm
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I wonder if China and India are making changes as well? Grinning
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Alex.434 wrote:
Today, these states all joined CA in suing the Trump administration to keep CA's emission rules. Source: https://www.apnews.com/557dac75254a4342b4176c064a534e3b Colorado Connecticut Delaware Hawaii Illinois Maine Massachusetts Maryland...
Today, these states all joined CA in suing the Trump administration to keep CA's emission rules. Source: https://www.apnews.com/557dac75254a4342b4176c064a534e3b

Colorado
Connecticut
Delaware
Hawaii
Illinois
Maine
Massachusetts
Maryland
Michigan
Minnesota
Nevada
New Jersey
New Mexico
New York
North Carolina
Oregon
Pennsylvania
Rhode Island
Vermont
Virginia
Washington
Wisconsin
and the District of Columbia.

FWIW: the above states represent roughly 54% of the US population. Change is coming whether or not the science denying luddites like it or not. States rights baby! Let's not like 'big gub'mit' interfere in our gosh darn states rights!

Also today: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-49777279

Hey NASA: https://climate.nasa.gov

Yo UN: https://www.un.org/en/sections/issues-depth/climate-change/
Secede! The worm has turned in the Supreme Court.
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blackdiamond wrote:
In a recent poll 68% of Californians said they wanted to leave.
SLAPAHO wrote:
yeah, i think i remember seeing that too, but i forget where. i'm sure you have a link to that poll, right? otherwise, i'm sure you...
yeah, i think i remember seeing that too, but i forget where. i'm sure you have a link to that poll, right?

otherwise, i'm sure you would never have posted that......
SLAPAHO wrote:
crickets, that's what i thought....
According to Edelman, 63 percent of millennials in the 2019 survey indicated they were considering a move from sunny California. The chief reason for dissatisfaction: housing.
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MelonFan123 wrote:
Question to fellow Californians...do you care about other state's politics as much as these guys do with ours? I couldn't even name another State's Governor. I...
Question to fellow Californians...do you care about other state's politics as much as these guys do with ours?

I couldn't even name another State's Governor. I care about my local politics the most as that affects me, then state politics before national politics. I guess I don't have time nor do I care about the politics in a state which I don't reside.
Obtuse.

And when you look around. Take a long, critical look. Look at your cities. And as your beloved sport is steadily being legislated out of existence(right in front of you), your rights and freedoms.

If that doesn't move you and it's all copacetic, I(we) can't help you.
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Like our state, where are you moving when the illegals take over? Your state is on the precipice. Matter of fact, it's saved the nation at least twice from Gore and Hillary. BTW- why do mx people live in Florida? Flattest place on Earth?
But then with SX, any piece of land will do.
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JAFO92 9/21/2019 5:23am
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Oh no you di'unnt !!

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Gordon Liddy wrote:
Banning 2-strokes to clean up the environment is like trying to plug a 1" diameter hole in a leaking tank using a hair from your head.
731chopper wrote:
It's just low hanging fruit that the general public doesn't care about. The politicians chalk it up as a win to show their constituents that they're...
It's just low hanging fruit that the general public doesn't care about. The politicians chalk it up as a win to show their constituents that they're making "progress" so they get re-elected in the future. The impact it has on the environment has nothing to do with it, unfortunately.
That’s it exactly.
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we get the govt, we put up with. for all you fools who think, "well my bike is grandfathered in" stuff, you have already surrendered. Got to make a stand.

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