What do you think AC92 docked 2 spots for 1st moto?

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If a rider leaves the course for any reason, the rider must immediately slow down to a safe speed so as not to endanger life or limb of other riders,
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[b] If a rider leaves the course for any reason, the rider must immediately slow down to a safe speed so as not to endanger life...
If a rider leaves the course for any reason, the rider must immediately slow down to a safe speed so as not to endanger life or limb of other riders,
We ain't got no time for facts here!
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From the rulebook: 2.11 On-Track Regulations a. Riders must remain on the marked course. The course will be marked by track markers, boundary markers, hay bales...
From the rulebook:

2.11 On-Track Regulations
a. Riders must remain on the marked course. The course will be marked by track markers, boundary markers, hay bales, tuff blocks, dirt mounds, etc... If the marking devices are knocked down, the rider must stay on the original marked course.
b. A rider leaving the course may continue the race by properly re-entering the course at the closest point to where the rider left the course, without gaining an advantage. If a rider leaves the course for any reason, the rider must immediately slow down to a safe speed so as not to endanger life or limb of other riders, crew members, officials, or the public. It will be the responsibility of the Race Director or his designee to determine whether the rider gained an advantage upon re-entry or failed to slow down after leaving the course. A rider may be determined to have gained an advantage without gaining a position.
c. No rider may ride or operate any vehicle in such a manner as to endanger life or limb of other riders, crew members, officials or the public.


There is nothing in here about safe re-entry (there should be), but "properly re-entering" is pretty open for interpretation. The issue - supposedly - was that AC didn't slow down. IMO, the officials didn't like how close AC was to Crown when he reentered, and are using the "speeding while off course" rule as a way to penalize him. As others have already posted, there pictures of Ferrandis doing the exact same thing (pinning it off course) and I don't think he was ever even "under investigation." AC is rightly pissed to have the rules enforced so haphazardly. I'm not saying he doesn't the deserve the penalty, but if you give it him, you have to give it to everyone else, too.
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Thank you for posting the rule. I think I'd been looking at the supercross rule, which did say something about safe re-entry. Your take on it...
Thank you for posting the rule. I think I'd been looking at the supercross rule, which did say something about safe re-entry. Your take on it seems be that the officials didn't like what AC did and pretty much reverse-engineered a penalty. Perhaps you're right - though the argument that AC didn't slow down - as required by the rules - isn't without merit. The word here that is massively open to interpretation is "properly". It would be nice to have some clarification as to what constitutes "properly".
Agreed. AC definitely broke the rule. Everybody does.

Here is the 2019 AMA Motocross rule bookfor anyone that wants it.
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I didn't read through all 6 pages, but why not make it where the rider has to enter the track at or very close to where they left it. Leaving the track should make a rider lose significant time. If AC would have had to stop and turn around on both occasions it would made a major impact in positions, as it should since he lost control both times. It is not about AC, I like him a lot, rather leaving the race course should cause a major loss of time.
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CivBars wrote:
When you say ' What did he do at Lakewood? He looked to see where the next rider coming was (it does not matter who it...
When you say ' What did he do at Lakewood? He looked to see where the next rider coming was (it does not matter who it was!!) then entered when they went past - maybe something to do with other rider going at race pace ON track??'

Are you referring to the incident with Justin Cooper?
Yes that incident. FWIW he deserved major applause for how he handled that ( as opposed to Cooper throwing a hissy fit). Why did he not do the same this time? Brain fart!! Because Dylan is on a roll and AC is thinking about title - and sadly not winning it!

I hope he calms the fek down and just rides how he can and he will have the title.

The week off is when NWey should get a hold of him and get him settled, relaxed as I’m sure DV will be working on Dylan
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MAKE UP CALL. Plain and simple.
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A2 General Offenses and Penalties
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l. Failure to re-enter the track at a point as close as practical to the point at which the rider left the track or slow down after leaving the course, and in so doing gaining an advantage.

AC Enters at the closet practical point and he surely slowed down as he was next to Alex Martin when he went off track and was next to the rider who was behind him when he came back on track, Joey Crown. He didn't gain an advantage as he lost time. It could be debated that he didn't slow down enough but the rule doesn't give a specific speed to slow down to. He lost time. Translation: Slowed down. When the rule is written in a manner that leaves it up to the discretion of an individual then we're going to have inconstancy of when and to who gets a penalty.
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CivBars wrote:
When you say ' What did he do at Lakewood? He looked to see where the next rider coming was (it does not matter who it...
When you say ' What did he do at Lakewood? He looked to see where the next rider coming was (it does not matter who it was!!) then entered when they went past - maybe something to do with other rider going at race pace ON track??'

Are you referring to the incident with Justin Cooper?
shuggs wrote:
Yes that incident. FWIW he deserved major applause for how he handled that ( as opposed to Cooper throwing a hissy fit). Why did he not...
Yes that incident. FWIW he deserved major applause for how he handled that ( as opposed to Cooper throwing a hissy fit). Why did he not do the same this time? Brain fart!! Because Dylan is on a roll and AC is thinking about title - and sadly not winning it!

I hope he calms the fek down and just rides how he can and he will have the title.

The week off is when NWey should get a hold of him and get him settled, relaxed as I’m sure DV will be working on Dylan
The reason he let Cooper in front of him is because Cooper was in front of him when he went off track. He has no reason to let Joey in front of him as Joey was behind him when he went off track. So I do think it matters who it was. If somehow he was going to re-enter the track and either Dylan or Alex were behind him, I think AC would've let them in front. The incident at Red Bud and the incident at Thunder Valley are entirely different. I also think that whoever is dishing out the penalty isn't doing a good job at looking at each case is isolation. If this was the first time AC went off track all Summer it wouldn't have been a penalty. And there is no rule that says after x amount of incidents is the thought process going to change how it's handled. People in charge need to neutral on these matters and each case needs to handled accordingly. Seems to me like they feel as if they let AC get away with the Cooper incident and now they feel obligated to crack down this time. Whether it's the first time or the tenth time, whether it's a battle for the lead or a rider by themselves in 40th, these rules need to be more consistent and it start with rewriting them so there isn't so much left up to the discretion of someone whose decision could be swayed by the pressure of teams protesting or any scrutiny that is thrown their way and potentially damaging frail egos. Not enough black and white in the rule book.
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7/8/2019 2:29pm Edited Date/Time 7/8/2019 2:31pm
MAKE UP CALL. Plain and simple, pathetic.

They been sitting on him since Lakewood. Colorado incident took hours to come to a decision, but this one was decided in a matter of minutes?
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[b]MAKE UP CALL[/b]. Plain and simple, pathetic. They been sitting on him since Lakewood. Colorado incident took hours to come to a decision, but this one...
MAKE UP CALL. Plain and simple, pathetic.

They been sitting on him since Lakewood. Colorado incident took hours to come to a decision, but this one was decided in a matter of minutes?
Yep. An absolute embarrassment. After this cal those star guys better pray they don’t go off the track. The gloves (and looking the other way) are coming off now.

As a fan this is one hell of a good story line and has proved hours of entertainment.
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I think the rule is pretty clear but maybe the AMA is like most parents...they don't ground the kids on the first offense so the kids keeps pushing til the parents have had enough. Then the kids cry and whine about things being unfair. It's all good fellers.
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I don't think they penalized him for the incident where Ferrandis pushed him off the track. The second time he entered right when Crown came into...
I don't think they penalized him for the incident where Ferrandis pushed him off the track.
The second time he entered right when Crown came into the turn. Had Crown taken the inside line they would have probably collided.

You can't have a clear rule for every situation. Every situation is different, that's why there are impartial officials that make these decisions.
U could say that any time 2 riders on the track. It's BS he got in trouble for entering in the same area. Of another rider
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I didn't read through all 6 pages, but why not make it where the rider has to enter the track at or very close to where...
I didn't read through all 6 pages, but why not make it where the rider has to enter the track at or very close to where they left it. Leaving the track should make a rider lose significant time. If AC would have had to stop and turn around on both occasions it would made a major impact in positions, as it should since he lost control both times. It is not about AC, I like him a lot, rather leaving the race course should cause a major loss of time.
In this instance.. You're suggestion would mean he turn around and enter at the top of jump in traffic or at the base of the blind jump into traffic! Or would you say he would have to wait patiently next to where he went off for a break in the pack? A rider is not gonna do that..

I do believe there should've been some sort of penalty but just for the way he came back on the track.. Like he said if he had've slowed down too much (off track) he would've been back in a much more dangerous situation with more riders in the pack!
And no I don't believe going a little off track is a mistake that should be THAT costly to the rider..
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Maybe AC needs to keep it on the track and this won’t be a problem down the road. It’s funny to see someone talk about Crown riding over his head while defending a guy that just lost a SX title from crashing out and has been off the track in several outdoor events, sometimes more than once a moto. See a pattern here. Could be why he got the penalty and others (like Nichols) didn’t when they were obviously accelerating outside the track.
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Maybe AC needs to keep it on the track and this won’t be a problem down the road. It’s funny to see someone talk about Crown...
Maybe AC needs to keep it on the track and this won’t be a problem down the road. It’s funny to see someone talk about Crown riding over his head while defending a guy that just lost a SX title from crashing out and has been off the track in several outdoor events, sometimes more than once a moto. See a pattern here. Could be why he got the penalty and others (like Nichols) didn’t when they were obviously accelerating outside the track.
So you agree that the AMA is singling AC out?
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7/8/2019 8:57pm Edited Date/Time 7/8/2019 8:59pm
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So you agree that the AMA is singling AC out?
If I'm Mitch or Will Hahn, I'm gonna sit my guys down and tell them to be mindful of their conduct on the track, and try to hold off pulling any bonehead moves until the last race or two if you are a championship contender.

Ask Joey Savatgy if he ever thinks about getting docked points for going off track.
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Reading those rules it's a wonder no-one knows what the fuck is the right thing to do or not.
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CivBars wrote:
When you say ' What did he do at Lakewood? He looked to see where the next rider coming was (it does not matter who it...
When you say ' What did he do at Lakewood? He looked to see where the next rider coming was (it does not matter who it was!!) then entered when they went past - maybe something to do with other rider going at race pace ON track??'

Are you referring to the incident with Justin Cooper?
shuggs wrote:
Yes that incident. FWIW he deserved major applause for how he handled that ( as opposed to Cooper throwing a hissy fit). Why did he not...
Yes that incident. FWIW he deserved major applause for how he handled that ( as opposed to Cooper throwing a hissy fit). Why did he not do the same this time? Brain fart!! Because Dylan is on a roll and AC is thinking about title - and sadly not winning it!

I hope he calms the fek down and just rides how he can and he will have the title.

The week off is when NWey should get a hold of him and get him settled, relaxed as I’m sure DV will be working on Dylan
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The reason he let Cooper in front of him is because Cooper was in front of him when he went off track. He has no reason...
The reason he let Cooper in front of him is because Cooper was in front of him when he went off track. He has no reason to let Joey in front of him as Joey was behind him when he went off track. So I do think it matters who it was. If somehow he was going to re-enter the track and either Dylan or Alex were behind him, I think AC would've let them in front. The incident at Red Bud and the incident at Thunder Valley are entirely different. I also think that whoever is dishing out the penalty isn't doing a good job at looking at each case is isolation. If this was the first time AC went off track all Summer it wouldn't have been a penalty. And there is no rule that says after x amount of incidents is the thought process going to change how it's handled. People in charge need to neutral on these matters and each case needs to handled accordingly. Seems to me like they feel as if they let AC get away with the Cooper incident and now they feel obligated to crack down this time. Whether it's the first time or the tenth time, whether it's a battle for the lead or a rider by themselves in 40th, these rules need to be more consistent and it start with rewriting them so there isn't so much left up to the discretion of someone whose decision could be swayed by the pressure of teams protesting or any scrutiny that is thrown their way and potentially damaging frail egos. Not enough black and white in the rule book.
Forget about the race that was going on, who was involved and for what positions.
At Lakewood AC waited for next rider to come by and then REJOINED the track.

Now remember about the race. At this exact moment he knew he had to let Cooper get a gap as that was how it was before his wee detour.

This week he never waited for next rider to pass so he could enter safely. Now you might say he only waited at Lakewood as it was Cooper but then why did he then wait to let him get a gap? Remember riders make these decisions in a fraction of a second.

FWIW I do believe he is (wrongly) under the microscope BUT hope the Star team are mindful as well for the last few races.
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shuggs wrote:
Yes that incident. FWIW he deserved major applause for how he handled that ( as opposed to Cooper throwing a hissy fit). Why did he not...
Yes that incident. FWIW he deserved major applause for how he handled that ( as opposed to Cooper throwing a hissy fit). Why did he not do the same this time? Brain fart!! Because Dylan is on a roll and AC is thinking about title - and sadly not winning it!

I hope he calms the fek down and just rides how he can and he will have the title.

The week off is when NWey should get a hold of him and get him settled, relaxed as I’m sure DV will be working on Dylan
CivBars wrote:
The reason he let Cooper in front of him is because Cooper was in front of him when he went off track. He has no reason...
The reason he let Cooper in front of him is because Cooper was in front of him when he went off track. He has no reason to let Joey in front of him as Joey was behind him when he went off track. So I do think it matters who it was. If somehow he was going to re-enter the track and either Dylan or Alex were behind him, I think AC would've let them in front. The incident at Red Bud and the incident at Thunder Valley are entirely different. I also think that whoever is dishing out the penalty isn't doing a good job at looking at each case is isolation. If this was the first time AC went off track all Summer it wouldn't have been a penalty. And there is no rule that says after x amount of incidents is the thought process going to change how it's handled. People in charge need to neutral on these matters and each case needs to handled accordingly. Seems to me like they feel as if they let AC get away with the Cooper incident and now they feel obligated to crack down this time. Whether it's the first time or the tenth time, whether it's a battle for the lead or a rider by themselves in 40th, these rules need to be more consistent and it start with rewriting them so there isn't so much left up to the discretion of someone whose decision could be swayed by the pressure of teams protesting or any scrutiny that is thrown their way and potentially damaging frail egos. Not enough black and white in the rule book.
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Forget about the race that was going on, who was involved and for what positions. At Lakewood AC waited for next rider to come by and...
Forget about the race that was going on, who was involved and for what positions.
At Lakewood AC waited for next rider to come by and then REJOINED the track.

Now remember about the race. At this exact moment he knew he had to let Cooper get a gap as that was how it was before his wee detour.

This week he never waited for next rider to pass so he could enter safely. Now you might say he only waited at Lakewood as it was Cooper but then why did he then wait to let him get a gap? Remember riders make these decisions in a fraction of a second.

FWIW I do believe he is (wrongly) under the microscope BUT hope the Star team are mindful as well for the last few races.
He has no reason to let Joey pass him as Joey is behind him and also on the far side of the track.
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He has no reason to let Joey pass him as Joey is behind him and also on the far side of the track.
But he does have a reason - he went OFF the track. If he had done that where do you think he would have finished? Thats right he would have got up to same place WITHOUT any threat of a penalty and a couple more points
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CivBars wrote:
He has no reason to let Joey pass him as Joey is behind him and also on the far side of the track.
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But he does have a reason - he went OFF the track. If he had done that where do you think he would have finished? Thats...
But he does have a reason - he went OFF the track. If he had done that where do you think he would have finished? Thats right he would have got up to same place WITHOUT any threat of a penalty and a couple more points
So you're suggesting that he let's Joey pass and also has no choice but to let Nichols pass too then from a stop jump in front of Robin and Hampshire potentially creating even more of a hazardous situation?
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CivBars wrote:
He has no reason to let Joey pass him as Joey is behind him and also on the far side of the track.
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But he does have a reason - he went OFF the track. If he had done that where do you think he would have finished? Thats...
But he does have a reason - he went OFF the track. If he had done that where do you think he would have finished? Thats right he would have got up to same place WITHOUT any threat of a penalty and a couple more points
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So you're suggesting that he let's Joey pass and also has no choice but to let Nichols pass too then from a stop jump in front...
So you're suggesting that he let's Joey pass and also has no choice but to let Nichols pass too then from a stop jump in front of Robin and Hampshire potentially creating even more of a hazardous situation?
Eh no!

Go watch the video again or the gopro (you can see JCrown get level with him at one point)from AC. If he had let Joey go past and gave himself another fraction of a second to compose himself it would not have mattered.
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But he does have a reason - he went OFF the track. If he had done that where do you think he would have finished? Thats...
But he does have a reason - he went OFF the track. If he had done that where do you think he would have finished? Thats right he would have got up to same place WITHOUT any threat of a penalty and a couple more points
CivBars wrote:
So you're suggesting that he let's Joey pass and also has no choice but to let Nichols pass too then from a stop jump in front...
So you're suggesting that he let's Joey pass and also has no choice but to let Nichols pass too then from a stop jump in front of Robin and Hampshire potentially creating even more of a hazardous situation?
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Eh no! Go watch the video again or the gopro (you can see JCrown get level with him at one point)from AC. If he had let...
Eh no!

Go watch the video again or the gopro (you can see JCrown get level with him at one point)from AC. If he had let Joey go past and gave himself another fraction of a second to compose himself it would not have mattered.
Level with him? AC is in front of Joey at all times. Not once are they level. Not from the GoPro footage Not from the NBC broadcast did I ever see that Joey is level with him. AC looks back at him. Joey is about 4 bike lengths behind. Also listen to AC's bike. He is not pinned. Listen to his bike around the track and compare that to this incident. The GoPro footage really helps prove my point. Even when AC does get back on track Joey is nowhere to be found except the tiniest glimpse on the far right bottom corner of the screen. That's because Joey is behind him. Not level.




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If not JCrown who is the flash of blue in corner at about 2:20.

It doesn’t matter what bike sounds like, it’s all about the position
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If not JCrown who is the flash of blue in corner at about 2:20.

It doesn’t matter what bike sounds like, it’s all about the position
That's Joey, as I said. But he's in the corner because he's behind him. Not level. Watch the broadcast again. Watch the GoPro again. Compare. Watch it again.
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If not JCrown who is the flash of blue in corner at about 2:20.

It doesn’t matter what bike sounds like, it’s all about the position
Position? @ 2:17 Joey is way behind @ 2:20 he's much closer. How does Joey make up time on AC if AC is not slowing down?
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That's Joey, as I said. But he's in the corner because he's behind him. Not level. Watch the broadcast again. Watch the GoPro again. Compare. Watch...
That's Joey, as I said. But he's in the corner because he's behind him. Not level. Watch the broadcast again. Watch the GoPro again. Compare. Watch it again.
So let me ask you this CivBars, would you be okay with what AC did to Joey if someone did it to you on a practice day, let alone a race? Just getting on the track from the infield where ever/when ever they seem fit. I know I would not be okay with it in either scenario.

As I mentioned earlier. Make the rule that the have to stop at the edge of the track for 5 seconds and then enter when clear and safe. That way there is a penalty to be paid for leaving the track. As there should be.
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I think there's rules and officials and I don't feel the need to question every decision or non-decision. I like Adam. He got clipped. Onto the next race.
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So let me ask you this CivBars, would you be okay with what AC did to Joey if someone did it to you on a practice...
So let me ask you this CivBars, would you be okay with what AC did to Joey if someone did it to you on a practice day, let alone a race? Just getting on the track from the infield where ever/when ever they seem fit. I know I would not be okay with it in either scenario.

As I mentioned earlier. Make the rule that the have to stop at the edge of the track for 5 seconds and then enter when clear and safe. That way there is a penalty to be paid for leaving the track. As there should be.
For one, AC had no other choice to enter there as that's where the break in the banners was. Much before the apex mind you.

For two, Joey going inside has just as much bearing on this incident as AC not coming to a stop and letting the entire field by, like many of you expected him to do.

If it's a practice day, AC probably would've rode around the inside of the banners on the grass until he was at the exit of the turn and then gotten back onto the track on the straight when it was clear. Remember, grass can be quite slippery.

If it's a practice day and AC did exactly what he did during the race and I was in Joey's position, I would stay to the outside line, like Nichols does and there would be no issue.

If it's a practice day and for some reason I feel the need to shut the door on AC trying to get back onto the track and we get close and I jump out of my line because I know he's coming, then I'd probably just keep on riding as I knew what was in store and I took that risk.

Joey knew AC was coming. There's no way Joey was committed to that line and jumps ship as well as he did.

If it's a race and AC did exactly what he did during the race and I was in Joey's position, I would stay to the outside line like Nichols does and there would be no issue. There's no way I go inside knowing AC is off track and looking to get back on.

Maybe they implement a penalty flag where you have to pull off into a penalty lane and come to a stop and then go? They can put in next to the goggle lane.

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I think there's rules and officials and I don't feel the need to question every decision or non-decision. I like Adam. He got clipped. Onto the...
I think there's rules and officials and I don't feel the need to question every decision or non-decision. I like Adam. He got clipped. Onto the next race.
Thank you. It's like a pass interference call in the NFL (which is now reviewable, and a bad idea, in my opinion) or traveling in the NBA, or a shooting foul or whatever... Motocross racing is a very dynamic, fluid event, with forty different athletes having a mile of track on either side of them to accidentally run off the marked course. Slow down, get back on in a safe manner and continue racing. That we can all agree on.

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