Jeff Walker

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Baffles me as to why he'd change bikes so late in his season prep. I'm rooting for the guy though, his vlogs are great and I enjoy watching them and keeping up with his racing.
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Baffles me as to why he'd change bikes so late in his season prep. I'm rooting for the guy though, his vlogs are great and I...
Baffles me as to why he'd change bikes so late in his season prep. I'm rooting for the guy though, his vlogs are great and I enjoy watching them and keeping up with his racing.
Lots of bike problems with red...
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5/28/2019 6:41pm
The dislikes on the forum astonish me

I get dislikes for saying he will
Make a race? Just needs time to adapt to a new bike - yet we allow top contendors to say the same thing months after a switch of teams?

Ml512 gets dislikes for stating facts?


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Baffles me as to why he'd change bikes so late in his season prep. I'm rooting for the guy though, his vlogs are great and I...
Baffles me as to why he'd change bikes so late in his season prep. I'm rooting for the guy though, his vlogs are great and I enjoy watching them and keeping up with his racing.
ML512 wrote:
Lots of bike problems with red...
He said after riding the Husky it was so much better it was shocking.

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The dislikes on the forum astonish me I get dislikes for saying he will Make a race? Just needs time to adapt to a new bike...
The dislikes on the forum astonish me

I get dislikes for saying he will
Make a race? Just needs time to adapt to a new bike - yet we allow top contendors to say the same thing months after a switch of teams?

Ml512 gets dislikes for stating facts?


Amazing
I'm laughing at my dislikes, someone doesn't like facts.
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5/28/2019 7:28pm
burn1986 wrote:
As fast as these guys are and can barely qualify, shows how insanely fast the pros really are...
I went down to the Outdoor at Glen Helen last year and it's hard to tell the difference in speed between the guys up front and the guy back in 20th in any one particular section. Not only that everyone one of the guys that qualified were going damn fast at the beginning of the race.
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5/28/2019 7:42pm
The dislikes on the forum astonish me I get dislikes for saying he will Make a race? Just needs time to adapt to a new bike...
The dislikes on the forum astonish me

I get dislikes for saying he will
Make a race? Just needs time to adapt to a new bike - yet we allow top contendors to say the same thing months after a switch of teams?

Ml512 gets dislikes for stating facts?


Amazing
ML512 wrote:
I'm laughing at my dislikes, someone doesn't like facts.
Alot of people on vital dont like facts.
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The dislikes on the forum astonish me I get dislikes for saying he will Make a race? Just needs time to adapt to a new bike...
The dislikes on the forum astonish me

I get dislikes for saying he will
Make a race? Just needs time to adapt to a new bike - yet we allow top contendors to say the same thing months after a switch of teams?

Ml512 gets dislikes for stating facts?


Amazing
ML512 wrote:
I'm laughing at my dislikes, someone doesn't like facts.
mxb2 wrote:
Alot of people on vital dont like facts.
Nah just shows that there are at least 3 die hard “red” fans


Not sure why anyone even pays attention to that (the thumbs)....at all
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ML512 wrote:
I'm laughing at my dislikes, someone doesn't like facts.
mxb2 wrote:
Alot of people on vital dont like facts.
brocster wrote:
Nah just shows that there are at least 3 die hard “red” fans


Not sure why anyone even pays attention to that (the thumbs)....at all
Exactly,. Thumbs up ,down. Who cares. Bigger problems in the world. Guess some need a ego boost.
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5/28/2019 8:02pm Edited Date/Time 5/28/2019 8:08pm
GCBC wrote:
if he is 4 seconds off of 36th place then his bike is a pile of shit
yz133rider wrote:
Yes you should be an expert on this considering youve owned each and every ktm model and ridden them for 17 seconds each.
ex pro racer and driver coach I am well versed in fast drivers performing poorly due to equipment. Skill level isn't going to magically jump him 30 sports but a better piece of equipment will. same as a if a top pro went from a. factory ride to a privateer team the following year
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ML512 wrote:
I'm laughing at my dislikes, someone doesn't like facts.
Super cool to see you in Walker's video! Bad ass that you helped him out and seems like you might be helping out some more! Id have to think some kit suspension would help him massively!
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5/28/2019 9:17pm
I was surprised to hear him say his suspension was bone stock. Not a even a mail order Factory Connection job done to it.

Someone hook this kid up....
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5/28/2019 9:21pm
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Baffles me as to why he'd change bikes so late in his season prep. I'm rooting for the guy though, his vlogs are great and I...
Baffles me as to why he'd change bikes so late in his season prep. I'm rooting for the guy though, his vlogs are great and I enjoy watching them and keeping up with his racing.
ML512 wrote:
Lots of bike problems with red...
kpiper wrote:
He said after riding the Husky it was so much better it was shocking.
I’m unaware of the issues with the Honda. I do remember the video of him describing the difference between the Honda and the husky
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5/28/2019 9:24pm
I was surprised to hear him say his suspension was bone stock. Not a even a mail order Factory Connection job done to it. Someone hook...
I was surprised to hear him say his suspension was bone stock. Not a even a mail order Factory Connection job done to it.

Someone hook this kid up....
Pretty sure his family has plenty of money to purchase stuff.
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5/28/2019 9:34pm
mxb2 wrote:
Pretty sure his family has plenty of money to purchase stuff.
Dad bought him a $12K bike. I just would have figured they would have sent the suspension out before outdoors started. Maybe they did not have enough time and tried to wing it?
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5/28/2019 9:38pm
mxb2 wrote:
Pretty sure his family has plenty of money to purchase stuff.
Dad bought him a $12K bike. I just would have figured they would have sent the suspension out before outdoors started. Maybe they did not have...
Dad bought him a $12K bike. I just would have figured they would have sent the suspension out before outdoors started. Maybe they did not have enough time and tried to wing it?
Yea. , Hard to say. Maybe thought stock wd be good enough. Revalve, spring kit $800. Haha
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mxb2 wrote:
Pretty sure his family has plenty of money to purchase stuff.
Dad bought him a $12K bike. I just would have figured they would have sent the suspension out before outdoors started. Maybe they did not have...
Dad bought him a $12K bike. I just would have figured they would have sent the suspension out before outdoors started. Maybe they did not have enough time and tried to wing it?
Got the bike only about two weeks before Hangtown, then had to drive out here. Jeff is pretty low-key and doesn't ask for help. I'm 99% sure I just got him his first ever true helmet, boots, and gear sponsor. Trying to line up his suspension now...but memorial day put things back a bit...gonna do some testing tomorrow.
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5/28/2019 9:50pm
mxb2 wrote:
Pretty sure his family has plenty of money to purchase stuff.
Dad bought him a $12K bike. I just would have figured they would have sent the suspension out before outdoors started. Maybe they did not have...
Dad bought him a $12K bike. I just would have figured they would have sent the suspension out before outdoors started. Maybe they did not have enough time and tried to wing it?
ML512 wrote:
Got the bike only about two weeks before Hangtown, then had to drive out here. Jeff is pretty low-key and doesn't ask for help. I'm 99%...
Got the bike only about two weeks before Hangtown, then had to drive out here. Jeff is pretty low-key and doesn't ask for help. I'm 99% sure I just got him his first ever true helmet, boots, and gear sponsor. Trying to line up his suspension now...but memorial day put things back a bit...gonna do some testing tomorrow.
Thats so awesome. I'm pumped for him. Good work Michael!
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5/28/2019 9:50pm
mxb2 wrote:
Pretty sure his family has plenty of money to purchase stuff.
Dad bought him a $12K bike. I just would have figured they would have sent the suspension out before outdoors started. Maybe they did not have...
Dad bought him a $12K bike. I just would have figured they would have sent the suspension out before outdoors started. Maybe they did not have enough time and tried to wing it?
ML512 wrote:
Got the bike only about two weeks before Hangtown, then had to drive out here. Jeff is pretty low-key and doesn't ask for help. I'm 99%...
Got the bike only about two weeks before Hangtown, then had to drive out here. Jeff is pretty low-key and doesn't ask for help. I'm 99% sure I just got him his first ever true helmet, boots, and gear sponsor. Trying to line up his suspension now...but memorial day put things back a bit...gonna do some testing tomorrow.
That's pretty cool to hear Michael. Jeff seems like a good dude , and I wish him the best of luck. He'll get in the show on that new Husky sooner or later.
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5/28/2019 10:44pm
Jeff's a rad dude and i wish him the best. Had a chance to meet him in the pits at Fox. He'll qualify for a national soon enough.

I don't want to mooch off Jeff's fame, but how about some help for a privateer who qualified 15th at Hangtown and 26th at Fox on a borrowed, essentially stock, 2017 CRF450? Kid lives in south jersey and trains by himself in sand pits and is qualifying faster than guys on factory bikes with legit programs. I can only imagine he'd be much better with a good bike and a proper training program.
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5/28/2019 10:57pm
Maybe we should downvote everything all the time. Kinda like saying Moran, or showing goofy bears. Let's cut to the chase and become emo about everything. I hate everyone and everything, this guy's got aids. That pisses me off. That guys bike is nicer than mine. Hate em. What did that guy thanks for! Hate hate hate em! Downvote for prez
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5/29/2019 11:39am
I was surprised to hear him say his suspension was bone stock. Not a even a mail order Factory Connection job done to it. Someone hook...
I was surprised to hear him say his suspension was bone stock. Not a even a mail order Factory Connection job done to it.

Someone hook this kid up....
Youd be more surprised to learn how common this is with many fast local pro and B riders..

Or how common it is for companies to send back nearly stock suspension. Stock stuff is far better than given credit for - doesn't make it perfect...but WP, KYB, showa, and the OEMs ALL have a full "revalving department" during development and they know how to use it.

Bones said it best on his whiskey throttle show
25 percent of what you feel is suspension
75 percent is chassis
And often finding the well balanced set up is more important than anything else. Chassis balance leads to good handling and predictability - forks/shocks that work in unison work so much better than a bike with an overly stiff shock or overly stiff forks respective to the other end.

OEM's generally do a decent job of balance - although IMHO the crf and kxf are skewed towards avg weekend warriors and are a little front soft

And the KTMs are current more "pro ready" and a little rear soft
With the yzf being very balanced and neutral.
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5/29/2019 12:28pm
Fresh wrote:
Baffles me as to why he'd change bikes so late in his season prep. I'm rooting for the guy though, his vlogs are great and I...
Baffles me as to why he'd change bikes so late in his season prep. I'm rooting for the guy though, his vlogs are great and I enjoy watching them and keeping up with his racing.
ML512 wrote:
Lots of bike problems with red...
For just him or red bike in general?
5/29/2019 1:04pm
Fresh wrote:
Baffles me as to why he'd change bikes so late in his season prep. I'm rooting for the guy though, his vlogs are great and I...
Baffles me as to why he'd change bikes so late in his season prep. I'm rooting for the guy though, his vlogs are great and I enjoy watching them and keeping up with his racing.
ML512 wrote:
Lots of bike problems with red...
mattyhamz2 wrote:
For just him or red bike in general?
I think red in general. Sounds like a common overheating issue
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I was surprised to hear him say his suspension was bone stock. Not a even a mail order Factory Connection job done to it. Someone hook...
I was surprised to hear him say his suspension was bone stock. Not a even a mail order Factory Connection job done to it.

Someone hook this kid up....
Youd be more surprised to learn how common this is with many fast local pro and B riders.. Or how common it is for companies to...
Youd be more surprised to learn how common this is with many fast local pro and B riders..

Or how common it is for companies to send back nearly stock suspension. Stock stuff is far better than given credit for - doesn't make it perfect...but WP, KYB, showa, and the OEMs ALL have a full "revalving department" during development and they know how to use it.

Bones said it best on his whiskey throttle show
25 percent of what you feel is suspension
75 percent is chassis
And often finding the well balanced set up is more important than anything else. Chassis balance leads to good handling and predictability - forks/shocks that work in unison work so much better than a bike with an overly stiff shock or overly stiff forks respective to the other end.

OEM's generally do a decent job of balance - although IMHO the crf and kxf are skewed towards avg weekend warriors and are a little front soft

And the KTMs are current more "pro ready" and a little rear soft
With the yzf being very balanced and neutral.
I spent most of today just getting the balance back in his setup, once we got that back it was so much easier to get him the feel he was looking for from each end. Kid is lanky and has some decent leverage on the bike ha.

Still on stock stuff for this weekend but a big overhaul on settings...should have him some new forks and a revalved shock based on what we learned for high point.
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5/29/2019 3:28pm Edited Date/Time 5/29/2019 3:30pm
You can’t rock up to a national with stock suspension! Ok maybe on a Yamaha you can.
15 mins in on Half-hour moto on that shock on a hot day and it’d fade like hell. It is not a local race day!
On a hardpack track those AER aren’t going to cut the mustard against National pros on A-kit to factory stuff!
Jeff just proved it!
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5/29/2019 4:45pm
I was surprised to hear him say his suspension was bone stock. Not a even a mail order Factory Connection job done to it. Someone hook...
I was surprised to hear him say his suspension was bone stock. Not a even a mail order Factory Connection job done to it.

Someone hook this kid up....
Youd be more surprised to learn how common this is with many fast local pro and B riders.. Or how common it is for companies to...
Youd be more surprised to learn how common this is with many fast local pro and B riders..

Or how common it is for companies to send back nearly stock suspension. Stock stuff is far better than given credit for - doesn't make it perfect...but WP, KYB, showa, and the OEMs ALL have a full "revalving department" during development and they know how to use it.

Bones said it best on his whiskey throttle show
25 percent of what you feel is suspension
75 percent is chassis
And often finding the well balanced set up is more important than anything else. Chassis balance leads to good handling and predictability - forks/shocks that work in unison work so much better than a bike with an overly stiff shock or overly stiff forks respective to the other end.

OEM's generally do a decent job of balance - although IMHO the crf and kxf are skewed towards avg weekend warriors and are a little front soft

And the KTMs are current more "pro ready" and a little rear soft
With the yzf being very balanced and neutral.
ML512 wrote:
I spent most of today just getting the balance back in his setup, once we got that back it was so much easier to get him...
I spent most of today just getting the balance back in his setup, once we got that back it was so much easier to get him the feel he was looking for from each end. Kid is lanky and has some decent leverage on the bike ha.

Still on stock stuff for this weekend but a big overhaul on settings...should have him some new forks and a revalved shock based on what we learned for high point.
Good for you ML, that’s RAD of you to help him out he seems like a great kid.
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colvin227 wrote:
Good for you ML, that’s RAD of you to help him out he seems like a great kid.
Super humble dude, considering how much free shit us media guys get I was just glad I could finally pay it forward and help someone out.
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5/29/2019 7:51pm Edited Date/Time 5/29/2019 7:53pm
Jrewing wrote:
You can’t rock up to a national with stock suspension! Ok maybe on a Yamaha you can. 15 mins in on Half-hour moto on that shock...
You can’t rock up to a national with stock suspension! Ok maybe on a Yamaha you can.
15 mins in on Half-hour moto on that shock on a hot day and it’d fade like hell. It is not a local race day!
On a hardpack track those AER aren’t going to cut the mustard against National pros on A-kit to factory stuff!
Jeff just proved it!
I dunno - i've seen some shit in my days

Dean wilson's loretta winning kx450f was so close to stock you wouldn't believe it...

Ken roczen on his zook - bone stock being much faster (partially mental)....do we forget that?

Right now Jeff needs to qualify. So the comfort factor of 35 minutes isn't even a factor.
And on that topic - good qualifying set up would be different than 35 min set up - the tracks are way different.

He could go full A kit WP - and be within 1 second of the stock bike - I've seen it in person with a guy who has been floating around 20th this year in 250 class I do work for.

Keefer has a great podcast on WP cone vs stock
And essentially it was a stiffer shock without trax (something I think americans need to "wise up to) - no surprise for a "pro level setting" regarding being stiffer, and a little more comfort on the very top of the forks with what was also a stiffer overall setting - something a cone valve offers vs shims.

VS his KYB YZF I don't recall his exact comments - but it isn't earth shattering.
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5/29/2019 10:55pm
Jrewing wrote:
You can’t rock up to a national with stock suspension! Ok maybe on a Yamaha you can. 15 mins in on Half-hour moto on that shock...
You can’t rock up to a national with stock suspension! Ok maybe on a Yamaha you can.
15 mins in on Half-hour moto on that shock on a hot day and it’d fade like hell. It is not a local race day!
On a hardpack track those AER aren’t going to cut the mustard against National pros on A-kit to factory stuff!
Jeff just proved it!
I dunno - i've seen some shit in my days Dean wilson's loretta winning kx450f was so close to stock you wouldn't believe it... Ken roczen...
I dunno - i've seen some shit in my days

Dean wilson's loretta winning kx450f was so close to stock you wouldn't believe it...

Ken roczen on his zook - bone stock being much faster (partially mental)....do we forget that?

Right now Jeff needs to qualify. So the comfort factor of 35 minutes isn't even a factor.
And on that topic - good qualifying set up would be different than 35 min set up - the tracks are way different.

He could go full A kit WP - and be within 1 second of the stock bike - I've seen it in person with a guy who has been floating around 20th this year in 250 class I do work for.

Keefer has a great podcast on WP cone vs stock
And essentially it was a stiffer shock without trax (something I think americans need to "wise up to) - no surprise for a "pro level setting" regarding being stiffer, and a little more comfort on the very top of the forks with what was also a stiffer overall setting - something a cone valve offers vs shims.

VS his KYB YZF I don't recall his exact comments - but it isn't earth shattering.
Stock but revalved is doable but off the showroom floor stock? And you can’t put Jeff at Dean or Ken’s skill level.
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