YO, Tomac haters! (Warning may contain TL;DR...)

GuyB wrote:

You kids run along and play in the Dumbgeon.

WCRider wrote:

Plessinger ? come on he is cool (I fck the tyranny of the coolitude btw) but It's a kid who play the clown. You can not...

Plessinger ? come on he is cool (I fck the tyranny of the coolitude btw) but It's a kid who play the clown.

You can not compare the personality of Tomac and Musquin. Musquin is a modern as Roczen as Herlings as the majority of people of that era including you.

Tomac is more like Unabomber, a caveman who hates the city, a good proof of personality...

I do not agree when you say that everyone is different, everyone does the same things, talk the same shit, love the same shit. There is less personality than in the past imo.

You know what's hypocrisy is ? It's always playing the cool guy

RichardLoots wrote:

so there is less personality ?? but the ones out there you hate the most you like the ones lacking personality .. . just tell it...

so there is less personality ?? but the ones out there you hate the most
you like the ones lacking personality .. . just tell it like it is

pezwattley wrote:

You know what, it's the fans who are far more annoying than the rider. I'll root for just about anybody at anytime on any given day...

You know what, it's the fans who are far more annoying than the rider. I'll root for just about anybody at anytime on any given day. It really depends on the circumstances.

And to be honest Tomac doesn't really have much of a "personality". I'll tell you who does, that's Plessinger. There are others who also have it, but Marv, Tomac, even Anderson, I don't consider to have much personality.

And I'll judge someone by what they do when they do it. And call them out when I think it's BS. Nobody is perfect. But fans... Well fans are just blinded by their undying devotion to a person for some reason. And it makes them so very annoying. I'll not like someone almost because their fans get on my nerves so bad, and Tomac seems to have alot of these fans. I mean the fact that Dungey was even dragged into this discussion proves how incredibly butt hurt people are, even though they would say it was the other group that was.

When Eli is on his game, it's great. To watch someone achieve something so great. To ride like that is truly incredible and to witness greatness, you certainly feel humbled. Stewart was like that, it was awesome, all those top guys. Dungey included. But I'm not so delusional to think these guys do no wrong. The fact that Tomac did a really great thing here on the clip, does not mean he didn't act like a baby and has been a hypocrite at times. People are all different. we grow and learn. He's human. But he has some bad personality traits as well. And hypocrisy is a pretty bad one. Does this balance that out...I don't know, but I still like to see him ride. when he's on it, Its on another level to watch him come from the back to pass everyone.

It's like, I also like Appetite for Destruction, but think Axl Rose is a total D-bag. Still like to listen to the album and really consider it one of the best rock records, well, ever. But Axl isn't cool. At all Eddie Van Halen, brilliant, but at times, has been full of himself. I do consider humility to be a pretty great trait. And some greats have that.

People often say wide receivers are cocky and full of them selves, champions have to have that. Terrell Owens,and the like, then I say look at Jerry Rice, pretty humble, and probably the greatest. Or even Joe Montana, one of the greatest QB's ever. So no, champions do not need to be assholes. There is a difference between confidence and cockiness ,and or arrogance.

Now back to the old b.s. manufactures do not spend Millions for silver. Team tactics are and always have been around. If you have an advantage and use it makes you smart. To pretend any thing else is silly. There are different kinds of pride, the kind of pride you take in your work and wanting to do good, and foolish pride. And it's foolish pride that wouldn't have used that advantage. And I don't think Eli is so foolish as to be like, "well by God I'm not going to do that " obviously or he wouldn't have passed at Monster Cup. He would have pointed Joey onward and said NO!! let's race!

What the KTM camp did was handle it poorly, but the Kawi boys handled it even worse. And went on about it. And the fans took it next level. Again Manufactures do not spend Millions and Millions for silver. Kawi would have done the same thing period, Grant, Eli, Kawi, KTM, every one knows it. Except for Eli fans for some reason. Look If your trying to drive a bunch of screws into a hard piece of wood, and the only things around were a drill with the proper bits, or a screwdriver, are you going to use the screwdriver because drills are for pussys? Does your manhood depend on not using the drill? Your not a man if you pick up that drill!! Work smarter not harder. I'm sure everyone has herd that, right? If you got to drive them all day, would it not make sense to use the drill? Your getting paid by the hour, I bet your boss is gonna get mad if you didn't use the drill, it may be your last day on the job, especially if you act like he's an idiot, because drills are for pussys. Or if you get paid by the job, don't you want to Finnish the job quicker to move on to the next job? Or will pride keep you broke? You are going to use the advantage, face it. It's the smart thing to do, especially if you want to succeed at what you do. And if your job is winning champhips, that's what you do. That's what the factories hire you for, not for your ego to get in the way.

With Millions on the line and a championship, do you think if the roles were reversed Kawi would have done anything different? Absolutely not. Case in point MC. And yes, the race was a one off, which means theres not as much at stake, no championship at stake, they did it there. Kawi allowed it. Which just means with everything on the line, repeat, everything on the line, you bet your sweet ass the Kawi team is going to take any advantage they can get. The fact that there is a championship on the line, gives them more of a reason. It's silly to think the other way around.They want a championship probably close to at all cost.

Also I'm for team tactics, that being said, I personally think the bottle necking of the race was brilliant, it was a great strategy. But you can't root for that and call the other b.s. that is hypocritical. Was Eli overly aggressive at times... maybe once that I saw, and it's debatable. Again Sure the KTM boys handled poorly, but Eli acted like a baby. Straight up. It's like get over it.

Eli is great, but has some growing up to do. He acts like a spoiled brat at times. Yes he did something incredibly cool in the clip above, but does that mean he didn't act like a baby... hell no. So obviously hes got some good in him, Only time will tell what kind of champion he truly turns out to be. Dungey was great. Villapoto was great. Stewart, all different, all great.

So in the mean time, please Shut up, and don't be delusional fan.if you want to post something that Tomac did that was great, awesome, do it, praise it, but leave everyone else out of it, otherwise your the fan boy. And I'm sure someone will say something, and call me a name. Just like lil Wayne fans thought he was the greatest guitar player at one time. The next Hendrix they said. Disagree, or say he needs lessons, and you just don't understand him, or his art. And your an idiot

ATKpilot99 wrote:

This thread has gotten stupid but fairly entertaining.

aeffertz wrote:

Where are these Tomac haters though?

WCRider wrote:

Ok, tell me, how do you think Bradshaw's personality would be perceived today ? I confirm, Herlings and Roczen are the Lebron James of MX. I'll...

Ok, tell me, how do you think Bradshaw's personality would be perceived today ?

I confirm, Herlings and Roczen are the Lebron James of MX. I'll let you guess who are the Jordan of MX.

pezwattley wrote:

You know what, it's the fans who are far more annoying than the rider. I'll root for just about anybody at anytime on any given day...

You know what, it's the fans who are far more annoying than the rider. I'll root for just about anybody at anytime on any given day. It really depends on the circumstances.

And to be honest Tomac doesn't really have much of a "personality". I'll tell you who does, that's Plessinger. There are others who also have it, but Marv, Tomac, even Anderson, I don't consider to have much personality.

And I'll judge someone by what they do when they do it. And call them out when I think it's BS. Nobody is perfect. But fans... Well fans are just blinded by their undying devotion to a person for some reason. And it makes them so very annoying. I'll not like someone almost because their fans get on my nerves so bad, and Tomac seems to have alot of these fans. I mean the fact that Dungey was even dragged into this discussion proves how incredibly butt hurt people are, even though they would say it was the other group that was.

When Eli is on his game, it's great. To watch someone achieve something so great. To ride like that is truly incredible and to witness greatness, you certainly feel humbled. Stewart was like that, it was awesome, all those top guys. Dungey included. But I'm not so delusional to think these guys do no wrong. The fact that Tomac did a really great thing here on the clip, does not mean he didn't act like a baby and has been a hypocrite at times. People are all different. we grow and learn. He's human. But he has some bad personality traits as well. And hypocrisy is a pretty bad one. Does this balance that out...I don't know, but I still like to see him ride. when he's on it, Its on another level to watch him come from the back to pass everyone.

It's like, I also like Appetite for Destruction, but think Axl Rose is a total D-bag. Still like to listen to the album and really consider it one of the best rock records, well, ever. But Axl isn't cool. At all Eddie Van Halen, brilliant, but at times, has been full of himself. I do consider humility to be a pretty great trait. And some greats have that.

People often say wide receivers are cocky and full of them selves, champions have to have that. Terrell Owens,and the like, then I say look at Jerry Rice, pretty humble, and probably the greatest. Or even Joe Montana, one of the greatest QB's ever. So no, champions do not need to be assholes. There is a difference between confidence and cockiness ,and or arrogance.

Now back to the old b.s. manufactures do not spend Millions for silver. Team tactics are and always have been around. If you have an advantage and use it makes you smart. To pretend any thing else is silly. There are different kinds of pride, the kind of pride you take in your work and wanting to do good, and foolish pride. And it's foolish pride that wouldn't have used that advantage. And I don't think Eli is so foolish as to be like, "well by God I'm not going to do that " obviously or he wouldn't have passed at Monster Cup. He would have pointed Joey onward and said NO!! let's race!

What the KTM camp did was handle it poorly, but the Kawi boys handled it even worse. And went on about it. And the fans took it next level. Again Manufactures do not spend Millions and Millions for silver. Kawi would have done the same thing period, Grant, Eli, Kawi, KTM, every one knows it. Except for Eli fans for some reason. Look If your trying to drive a bunch of screws into a hard piece of wood, and the only things around were a drill with the proper bits, or a screwdriver, are you going to use the screwdriver because drills are for pussys? Does your manhood depend on not using the drill? Your not a man if you pick up that drill!! Work smarter not harder. I'm sure everyone has herd that, right? If you got to drive them all day, would it not make sense to use the drill? Your getting paid by the hour, I bet your boss is gonna get mad if you didn't use the drill, it may be your last day on the job, especially if you act like he's an idiot, because drills are for pussys. Or if you get paid by the job, don't you want to Finnish the job quicker to move on to the next job? Or will pride keep you broke? You are going to use the advantage, face it. It's the smart thing to do, especially if you want to succeed at what you do. And if your job is winning champhips, that's what you do. That's what the factories hire you for, not for your ego to get in the way.

With Millions on the line and a championship, do you think if the roles were reversed Kawi would have done anything different? Absolutely not. Case in point MC. And yes, the race was a one off, which means theres not as much at stake, no championship at stake, they did it there. Kawi allowed it. Which just means with everything on the line, repeat, everything on the line, you bet your sweet ass the Kawi team is going to take any advantage they can get. The fact that there is a championship on the line, gives them more of a reason. It's silly to think the other way around.They want a championship probably close to at all cost.

Also I'm for team tactics, that being said, I personally think the bottle necking of the race was brilliant, it was a great strategy. But you can't root for that and call the other b.s. that is hypocritical. Was Eli overly aggressive at times... maybe once that I saw, and it's debatable. Again Sure the KTM boys handled poorly, but Eli acted like a baby. Straight up. It's like get over it.

Eli is great, but has some growing up to do. He acts like a spoiled brat at times. Yes he did something incredibly cool in the clip above, but does that mean he didn't act like a baby... hell no. So obviously hes got some good in him, Only time will tell what kind of champion he truly turns out to be. Dungey was great. Villapoto was great. Stewart, all different, all great.

So in the mean time, please Shut up, and don't be delusional fan.if you want to post something that Tomac did that was great, awesome, do it, praise it, but leave everyone else out of it, otherwise your the fan boy. And I'm sure someone will say something, and call me a name. Just like lil Wayne fans thought he was the greatest guitar player at one time. The next Hendrix they said. Disagree, or say he needs lessons, and you just don't understand him, or his art. And your an idiot

WCRider wrote:

This video is a good example of the problem of the modern man. The modern man is cool but a bit cocky so in fact, a...

This video is a good example of the problem of the modern man. The modern man is cool but a bit cocky so in fact, a cool very hypocrite as Lebron James as JS7 as Herlings and obv Roczen even if Roczen has become better, the pain of the crash is a good thing sometimes to shut your big mouth and make you grow.

The marks of a true GOAT is the humility. I assume to be seen as an old react asshole because i am.

Keith72 wrote:

I just don't get how anyone wouldn't like him.

Squirrelings wrote:

Dungey/KTM lovers don't like him because of Vegas '17.

IWreckALot wrote:

I don't generally fancy myself a fanboy of anyone, but if there were a rider I was a fanboy of, it would be Dungey. I actually...

I don't generally fancy myself a fanboy of anyone, but if there were a rider I was a fanboy of, it would be Dungey.

I actually really like Tomac also. The Vegas 17 race was greatness. It's a form of entertainment to me and that race was entertaining.

Having said that, I really dislike Kawasaki. Seems like they drag all the fun out of racing for their riders. Wish Tomac would have hung on to Honda or went with another brand.