MXA - Chad Reed Interview

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12/5/2018 11:44am
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DoctorJD, head Vitard, find one reference to anyone who said they DO NOT LIKE CHAD REED. This is simply a discussion about historical fact and why...
DoctorJD, head Vitard, find one reference to anyone who said they DO NOT LIKE CHAD REED. This is simply a discussion about historical fact and why he is in his current situation.

Being a Vitard by definition means a lack of reading comprehension and a propensity towards selectively taking others words out of context to create a dichotomy in your favor.

In the future please do not add, remove or selectively chop up my remarks and you will understand the whole point is that its not about you, me or the whole Vitard Nation. Chad Reed is who he his, everyone knows it and he is a great champion that is not ready to accept that the sport is moving on without him. Just as it has for the last 40 years.

Chad Reed is a great champion, who thinks he is bigger than the sport and thats what makes him interesting and relevent even after his results dont.

I will entertain this debate until someone can provide a valid rational argument against it or until the Vitard Nation makes it impossible to participate, I put my money on the latter!
In the future please do not add, remove or selectively chop up my remarks and you will understand the whole point is that its not about you, me or the whole Vitard Nation.

Holy sh*t dude, I didn't do any of that. LOL, I didn't even quote your post. I just made an observation (in a stand-alone post), and you immediately assumed it was you I was talking about. Considering your reaction, it must have hit home.
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12/5/2018 11:57am
Sorry looks like an exact quote! No worries.
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12/5/2018 12:19pm
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You have no idea how happy I was to scroll through and see this meme Laughing
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Talking about chad reed and business... Reed is one of the most successful business people in our sport. when you look at his networth compared to every other rider, its fair to say he isn't dumb. he knows what hes doing.

the whole chad reed blaming bikes stuff is bullshit. he never blames the bike, he wants to improve the bikes. it isn't about saying its shit all together but wanting to improve the brand and make it better. theirs a difference.
And we cant say it doesn't work.. because every time he has his say and they make change... hes come out on top.

The whole Yamaha stuff... If you had a choice between an outdated bike and a new designed fuel injected bike.. what would you pick? lets not forget he come out with the #1 and a red plate on the Suzuki.

He speaks his honest truth. some see it as being a sook and some see it as a conversation of truth and his thoughts. I prefer to hear some one say what they think or feel about a goat trail track and not being able to get the front end set up right to suit the conditions then hearing the whole boring Dungey Podium Speech.

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12/5/2018 1:42pm
Chad Reed has been and will remain my favourite racer for many years to come. The way I read that interview is, a very very passionate man is trying to get the best machine possible to do his job, the people in charge of that machine don’t like being told how to put it together because they are the engineers or whatever and they know best, and then it snowballs from there which happens in every workplace around the world.

Another thing that struck me, which I think is a good trait for someone to have is, yes Chad Reed could of bent over or kissed ass and made a few more dollars, but he is not the guy to tell the boss everything is ok when it is clearly not just to collect a pay check, he is the guy to look the boss in the eye and tell him this is not the way it is meant to be and more so, he probably has a solution in mind, not just a problem to drop on his bosses lap.

It will be a sad day when Chad Reed has his last gate drop.
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12/5/2018 2:35pm Edited Date/Time 12/5/2018 2:36pm
What everyone needs to realise here is that he is not slamming the bike, he is just trying to get comfortable enough to push the bike a couple TENTHS OF A SECOND a lap faster. To achieve this you need to make small changes that us normal people can’t comprehend. In the two two interview he talked about how good they got the Honda and how excited he was to test it every week.. look at his results there, he was even about to beat RV for a national title..
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Chad Reed is a man amongst boys.
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kaptkaos wrote:
I like vocal riders, you all like vocal riders. Do you or I pay Chad Reeds bills?? This is a business, the man races for a...
I like vocal riders, you all like vocal riders. Do you or I pay Chad Reeds bills??

This is a business, the man races for a living to earn income for his family. Sure he loves it, but a musician loves his art but wants to get paid.

Whatever we like matters not. The riders have already learned they have to be the face of the Team and say the right things. MX is a small sport, there arent 32 other teams willing to hire him. Even In the Nfl, Kapernick managed to talk his way out of 32 job optikns in a leavue where talent can get you hired even if you are a convicted felon.

My whole point is yes we like him as fans but we really dont count. The sport is a corporation sponsored by corporations who want minions making them millions. Chad no longer fits that mold and struggkes to get signed every year. If it wasnt true then why has he struggled and had to make his own way at his expense the last few years?

It was a good interview but aside from the end, its all stuff we have all heard and read countless times over and thats why I am focusing on that aspect.
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Haven't occurred to you that Reed is probably at the very end of his career now has it? If he doesn't get the JGR gig now...
Haven't occurred to you that Reed is probably at the very end of his career now has it? If he doesn't get the JGR gig now he's 99% retiring, pretty much said so himself.
10 years ago sure it would make sense not to burn bridges but he's not going back to Yamaha ever again so why not speak his mind? As a fan this is fantastic reading. More people should be open like this
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It occured to me, thats why I wrote the same thing a few posts back, however did it occur to you that in this great interview...
It occured to me, thats why I wrote the same thing a few posts back, however did it occur to you that in this great interview Chad Reed said he wanted to become a brand ambassador upon retiring and he was not happy that Yamaha gave it to RV instead of him? I rhink thats the whole point of my argument in a nutshell. Hes dissapointed Yamaha didnt make him brand ambassador, but he doesnt realize that his unique style of being vocal is not what the industry wants as an am ambassador even a mentor. Sorry for typos, writing from phone
Mate you need to read the interview again clearly says “Look at what Yamaha is doing with Ryan Villopoto, and if Ryan Villopoto can be an ambassador for Yamaha, then anybody could be an ambassador for anybody, because you are taking a guy who literally bleeds green and making him a Yamaha ambassador. That is really weird to see when there are many great Yamaha racers to choose from that would make more sense..” how is he pissed that he didn’t get the job ? can’t wait for you shit reply ?
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kaptkaos wrote:
I like vocal riders, you all like vocal riders. Do you or I pay Chad Reeds bills?? This is a business, the man races for a...
I like vocal riders, you all like vocal riders. Do you or I pay Chad Reeds bills??

This is a business, the man races for a living to earn income for his family. Sure he loves it, but a musician loves his art but wants to get paid.

Whatever we like matters not. The riders have already learned they have to be the face of the Team and say the right things. MX is a small sport, there arent 32 other teams willing to hire him. Even In the Nfl, Kapernick managed to talk his way out of 32 job optikns in a leavue where talent can get you hired even if you are a convicted felon.

My whole point is yes we like him as fans but we really dont count. The sport is a corporation sponsored by corporations who want minions making them millions. Chad no longer fits that mold and struggkes to get signed every year. If it wasnt true then why has he struggled and had to make his own way at his expense the last few years?

It was a good interview but aside from the end, its all stuff we have all heard and read countless times over and thats why I am focusing on that aspect.
Ray_MXS wrote:
Haven't occurred to you that Reed is probably at the very end of his career now has it? If he doesn't get the JGR gig now...
Haven't occurred to you that Reed is probably at the very end of his career now has it? If he doesn't get the JGR gig now he's 99% retiring, pretty much said so himself.
10 years ago sure it would make sense not to burn bridges but he's not going back to Yamaha ever again so why not speak his mind? As a fan this is fantastic reading. More people should be open like this
kaptkaos wrote:
It occured to me, thats why I wrote the same thing a few posts back, however did it occur to you that in this great interview...
It occured to me, thats why I wrote the same thing a few posts back, however did it occur to you that in this great interview Chad Reed said he wanted to become a brand ambassador upon retiring and he was not happy that Yamaha gave it to RV instead of him? I rhink thats the whole point of my argument in a nutshell. Hes dissapointed Yamaha didnt make him brand ambassador, but he doesnt realize that his unique style of being vocal is not what the industry wants as an am ambassador even a mentor. Sorry for typos, writing from phone
I think it was more the fact RV was a team green guy, then all the sudden became brand ambassador for Yamaha.
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And that had to be Keith M. I had my OW27 works bike on display at the Houston SX by the Scott rig and Bevo commented...
And that had to be Keith M. I had my OW27 works bike on display at the Houston SX by the Scott rig and Bevo commented that he hoped McCarty didn't see it and start quizzing him about not destroying Hannah's bike.

A year or two later I caught McCarty eyeing it up one side and down the other at the Legends rig and tried to strike up a conversation with him about it. He was tight lipped and appeared a bit butt hurt that I had a works yammie. It was weird, but at least he didn't make me draw straws to keep it.Laughing

It was Rond's bike from Holland by the way.
Did it have left side kick ? There's a pic of Rond on a left side kick Yamaha in the book Lackey techniques training and tactics.
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I read it as Chad really wanted the ambassador job and he was a Yamaha guy, then Rv got it instead. We may never know the truth, its just the impression I got from that article and all the interviews and podcasts he has done.
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12/5/2018 5:01pm
kaptkaos wrote:
I read it as Chad really wanted the ambassador job and he was a Yamaha guy, then Rv got it instead. We may never know the...
I read it as Chad really wanted the ambassador job and he was a Yamaha guy, then Rv got it instead. We may never know the truth, its just the impression I got from that article and all the interviews and podcasts he has done.
By golly miss Molly. So you'r saying that Chad Reed.... who still wants to race and has that desire, is upset about RV? Where do you come up with this stuff in your head?
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kaptkaos wrote:
I read it as Chad really wanted the ambassador job and he was a Yamaha guy, then Rv got it instead. We may never know the...
I read it as Chad really wanted the ambassador job and he was a Yamaha guy, then Rv got it instead. We may never know the truth, its just the impression I got from that article and all the interviews and podcasts he has done.
hahahahahhaha! you just read an artical of the truth?

Sorry champ.. the Yamaha thing was well out the window before RV took it.
As mentioned.. it was more RV is happy to ride what ever and take it as it is. there for RV is the perfect person. liked by most, rides what ever and happy for a paycheck.
and plus.. Reed wanted to keep racing. you cant be an ambassador and a racer.

Where people like Reed and RC4 want to have an input and make change to bikes to continuously improve them.

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And that had to be Keith M. I had my OW27 works bike on display at the Houston SX by the Scott rig and Bevo commented...
And that had to be Keith M. I had my OW27 works bike on display at the Houston SX by the Scott rig and Bevo commented that he hoped McCarty didn't see it and start quizzing him about not destroying Hannah's bike.

A year or two later I caught McCarty eyeing it up one side and down the other at the Legends rig and tried to strike up a conversation with him about it. He was tight lipped and appeared a bit butt hurt that I had a works yammie. It was weird, but at least he didn't make me draw straws to keep it.Laughing

It was Rond's bike from Holland by the way.
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Did it have left side kick ? There's a pic of Rond on a left side kick Yamaha in the book Lackey techniques training and tactics.
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Would like to hear from some long time industry insiders.
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12/5/2018 10:30pm Edited Date/Time 12/5/2018 10:31pm
Chad rules. I’ve always liked him ever since he got the holeshot at Anaheim when he was #103, and I was like “that guy looks just like MC!” I always thought he was way better than RC indoors and everyone else for that matter. His comments about Webb kinda made sense as to why Coop has sucked in the 450 class, hopefully the 19 is better and Coop can go fast again.
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Chad rules. I’ve always liked him ever since he got the holeshot at Anaheim when he was #103, and I was like “that guy looks just...
Chad rules. I’ve always liked him ever since he got the holeshot at Anaheim when he was #103, and I was like “that guy looks just like MC!” I always thought he was way better than RC indoors and everyone else for that matter. His comments about Webb kinda made sense as to why Coop has sucked in the 450 class, hopefully the 19 is better and Coop can go fast again.
Umm, you won't be seeing Webb ride a '19 Yamaha any time soon considering he's now riding for KTM.

That said it'll be interesting to see how his results compare.

Been a Reed fan ever since he crossed the pond.

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12/5/2018 11:19pm Edited Date/Time 12/5/2018 11:23pm
So when Bradshaw said a bike was a piece of crap, he's was a no bullshit, badass (still is).

When Reed says a bike is a piece of crap, he's a little bitch.

What a F'd up world we are becoming....
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gnarwhip wrote:
Chad rules. I’ve always liked him ever since he got the holeshot at Anaheim when he was #103, and I was like “that guy looks just...
Chad rules. I’ve always liked him ever since he got the holeshot at Anaheim when he was #103, and I was like “that guy looks just like MC!” I always thought he was way better than RC indoors and everyone else for that matter. His comments about Webb kinda made sense as to why Coop has sucked in the 450 class, hopefully the 19 is better and Coop can go fast again.
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Umm, you won't be seeing Webb ride a '19 Yamaha any time soon considering he's now riding for KTM. That said it'll be interesting to see...
Umm, you won't be seeing Webb ride a '19 Yamaha any time soon considering he's now riding for KTM.

That said it'll be interesting to see how his results compare.

Been a Reed fan ever since he crossed the pond.

Still think this is one of the best looking Yamahas ever!
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12/6/2018 3:35am Edited Date/Time 12/6/2018 3:40am
I'd like to read a post from someone who thinks Chad just shits on the bikes where other riders who were on that bike or setup at the time didn't also think there were issues. Saying it isn't whinging, nor does it mean it's not true. Just means he's happy to speak his mind.

You could maybe argue the 02 YZ250f, but Reed had never ridden a tiddler, or a 250F fourstroke and whilst he did just fine, you are talking about one of the guys who truly thought he could beat anybody... not like most of the field who hope they do good.

03. Loved the Yamaha 250
04. Loved the Yamaha 250
05. Hated the Yamaha 250 – frame. So did DV and Ferry
06/07/08. Yamaha fourstrokes... listen to DV, Ferry, GL & Matthes about the various issues with those bikes. – carbs, frames, turning etc... Meanwhile, look at other brands development.
09. Loved the Suzuki
10. Didn't love the Kawi but got it right for him, got injured, won a few nat races. RV & Weimer note a significant improvement when they upgrade to the 12 frame mid-2011 nationals.
11. Loved the Honda
12. Loved the Honda
13. Loved the Honda. Hated the showa suspension. Barcia, Canard, Seely all agree. Basically forces Barcia off. Trey gets KYB and starts winning. No Honda 450 rider runs Showa until 2016.
14. Loves the Kawi and wins old as fuck till he grenades himself.
15. Loves the Kawi, bounces back and forth with air suspension but ultimately 22 sponsor stress is too much.
16. We just read.
17. We just read.
18. Broken ankle.
19. I bet he can do better than most people think if he gets a shot.
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I thought he didn't like the 2013 Honda at all? Huh
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I thought he didn't like the 2013 Honda at all? Huh
Nope, was all suspension. That was air-fork days, and all the honda riders eventually started saying they were struggling with the front end. Honda refused to let them run KYB or change until after Barcia and Reed were gone. Trey gets it and starts winning. Cole picks it in pre-season tests.
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So when Bradshaw said a bike was a piece of crap, he's was a no bullshit, badass (still is). When Reed says a bike is a...
So when Bradshaw said a bike was a piece of crap, he's was a no bullshit, badass (still is).

When Reed says a bike is a piece of crap, he's a little bitch.

What a F'd up world we are becoming....
Yep. There are two things no one really discusses here on RC... his lines/racecraft etc... people just say he was aggro and fit. AND his bike selections/team change timings were huge.

RC says his 03 Honda was fucked up and Reed's bike was great, look at the results.... but the Red four stroke was incredible and so was the Yellow bikes.... Reed and RC test the Zook for 05 and RC gets it ( I believe $ won the day) and it is a benefit until he retires....

JS said his 05 Kawi was the scariest bike he ever rode but the Kawi 450 was reportedly great 07/08, you still here Ferry/JT rave about it.

It plays out when you look at the three of them. Reed was killing RC end of 03. A year and a frame version later and suddenly RC can literally pass Reed on flat ground twice in a race.

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Im just going to close by saying that I hope he does well this year, and that he helps JGR gets some exposure and podiums.

I know you are all very passionate CR fans which is cool, while I like him and root for him, he is not my favorite rider so I see things from a different perspective.

Ive read every CR interview and story, heard a ton of podcasts about him, and with him, and heard enough stories about him to formulate my own opinion, right or wrong.

I still believe a few things regardless of you all piling up on me.

1. Chad Reed is a great champion
2. The sport needs more riders like him
3. I enjoy how he races, and how he interacts and lives his life
4. I personally believe he does blame the bike for his results, in his head its never his fault. I guess thats just what makes him keep going and thats fine.
5. I personally think he DID want the brand ambassadorship at Yamaha, bc I actually read in print where he was quoted as saying it, and I heard him say it with his own voice on a podcast. If Yamaha would have said you are the brand ambassador after last year he would have taken it.
6. He will be missed when he is gone, just like I miss RC, JS7, RD5, Trey Canard and others.

Thanks for chat and not getting nasty. I am moving over to the Mookie thread, that one is about to get good.

Peace
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Lynch wrote:
I thought he didn't like the 2013 Honda at all? Huh
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Nope, was all suspension. That was air-fork days, and all the honda riders eventually started saying they were struggling with the front end. Honda refused to...
Nope, was all suspension. That was air-fork days, and all the honda riders eventually started saying they were struggling with the front end. Honda refused to let them run KYB or change until after Barcia and Reed were gone. Trey gets it and starts winning. Cole picks it in pre-season tests.
He hated the 13 . He got to run spring forks on that bike near the end and still hated it
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12/6/2018 6:10am Edited Date/Time 12/6/2018 12:39pm
Lynch wrote:
I thought he didn't like the 2013 Honda at all? Huh
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Nope, was all suspension. That was air-fork days, and all the honda riders eventually started saying they were struggling with the front end. Honda refused to...
Nope, was all suspension. That was air-fork days, and all the honda riders eventually started saying they were struggling with the front end. Honda refused to let them run KYB or change until after Barcia and Reed were gone. Trey gets it and starts winning. Cole picks it in pre-season tests.
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He hated the 13 . He got to run spring forks on that bike near the end and still hated it
Is there a source where you can say he said he hated the bike?

Shall we say front end feel as per the other riders all stated was better when the KYB swap happened?

Or is he just a whiny cunt?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=210&v=R0bxMRp6cLk
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Which frame did he fill with cement and put magic rocks on????Laughing
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Which frame did he fill with cement and put magic rocks on????Laughing
Or Voss with the chain in the skid plate?
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