MXA - Chad Reed Interview

kaptkaos wrote:

Just because he needs a special fork lug doesnt mean everyone else does. He has been whining about every situation he has been in since he...

Just because he needs a special fork lug doesnt mean everyone else does. He has been whining about every situation he has been in since he shut down 22 Motorsports. I get it, if it was just once but its just happening at every spot he lands on and the teams keep cutting him loose. I dont think thats a coincidence. With his great knowledge, speed and experience he should have been able to buy the bike that suit shim last year and been a top 5 guy all year but he didnt. Barcia was a lot like him, but he got the hint and just quit blaming the bike and decided to do what he needed to go fast and say the right things.

Like I said, I am a Chad Reed fan, and want him to stick around as long as he can, but I can see why the teams let him go, and why they arent fighting over him. He will get a chance due to the misfortune of Peicks accident.

Sure Chad can tell the team very minute details about what HE WANTS the bike to do, but that doesnt make a better race or production bike, and the teams arent stupid, they way the pros and cons of his feedback and results versus the negative remarks he can make when things dont go his way and most decide the Juice aint worth the squeeze. Perhaps, if he was lighting hte world on fire with his results they would, as they have done in the past and for other riders, but that ship has sailed and he needs to play the PC card and be smart to extend his career and make more money. The point is, you have the bike and team you have, make the best of it, work within their system and be a positive contributor. Its not your team anymore, you dont pay the bills, THEY DO. Thats all.

I hope he does well this year, and can help JGR and Suzuki get back on top, I highly doubt it, but it would be great to see.

When its all over, I hope he made enough money to write a tell all book, because he has strong feelings about the sport, the promoters, the sanctioning body, the teams, the bikes, the press, the tracks pretty much everything. There is a time and manner to be vocal if you want to be a Sponsored Factory rider. That time is when you are on top or when you have enough FU $$$.

drt410 wrote:

Exactly he even admitted this about Villopoto. He said RV could go fast on the Kawi no matter how bad it was. Isnt that EXACTLY what...

Exactly he even admitted this about Villopoto. He said RV could go fast on the Kawi no matter how bad it was. Isnt that EXACTLY what you want as a mfg? The bikes are all pretty damn good get out there and ride. The bikes are essentially as good as it gets, 100000 times better than oem or anyone elses bikes. Get out there and ride it your an mx racer. If RV will just take the bike and ride it how it is and win but Reed needs 1.2mm wider fork lugs and still doesnt win who do you honestly want on your bike? He was self defeating with that one that really hurt his case. If someone wins on the still very very good bike you give them and the other person complains about everything and doesnt win, is that not the biggest no brainer ever? Sorry but the problem is Reed blames the bikes for bad results and RV just goes out and wins on the bike he has. Still a fan but thats the hard truth admitted to here by Reed. Why is he saying Kawi was wrong for not changing the bike cuz hes not winning on it when RV is? That makes no sense. If RV IS winning... the bike clearly IS good enough to win on.. so go win. Some of the things he says make no sense... well are excuses for why hes not.

blockhead17 wrote:

Think about this.. as dominant as McGrath was.. if you take out one of CR/JS/RC out of the equation then the other two would both have...

Think about this.. as dominant as McGrath was.. if you take out one of CR/JS/RC out of the equation then the other two would both have more wins than MC

newmann wrote:

the pic dammit, don't forget the pic [img]https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/crash.net/styles/article/s3/original/133664.jpg[/img]

the pic dammit, don't forget the pic

TeamFlannel wrote:

Couldn't even read the whole interview. What a load. I liked Reed in Europe, then I didn't like him whining here ( for many,many years) then...

Couldn't even read the whole interview. What a load. I liked Reed in Europe, then I didn't like him whining here ( for many,many years) then I liked him on the Honda, then I didn't like him again (what the hell happened on Kawi-check casher) and still don't to this day. Was laughing out loud at the Ironman national back in August "The things you are capable of when it's all on the line"...

newmann wrote:

the pic dammit, don't forget the pic [img]https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/crash.net/styles/article/s3/original/133664.jpg[/img]

the pic dammit, don't forget the pic

Baton Rouge wrote:

Pontiac 2005 ! That was some crazy battle between these 3 legends ! It was the last year of the 250 2 strokes such an awesome...

Pontiac 2005 !

That was some crazy battle between these 3 legends ! It was the last year of the 250 2 strokes such an awesome year

newmann wrote:

the pic dammit, don't forget the pic [img]https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/crash.net/styles/article/s3/original/133664.jpg[/img]

the pic dammit, don't forget the pic

Baton Rouge wrote:

Pontiac 2005 ! That was some crazy battle between these 3 legends ! It was the last year of the 250 2 strokes such an awesome...

Pontiac 2005 !

That was some crazy battle between these 3 legends ! It was the last year of the 250 2 strokes such an awesome year

Benchracer17 wrote:

* Orlando 2005 me thinks

newmann wrote:

the pic dammit, don't forget the pic [img]https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/crash.net/styles/article/s3/original/133664.jpg[/img]

the pic dammit, don't forget the pic

Baton Rouge wrote:

Pontiac 2005 ! That was some crazy battle between these 3 legends ! It was the last year of the 250 2 strokes such an awesome...

Pontiac 2005 !

That was some crazy battle between these 3 legends ! It was the last year of the 250 2 strokes such an awesome year

Benchracer17 wrote:

* Orlando 2005 me thinks

DoctorJD wrote:

Vitard Nation: We hate riders who are robots, why doesn't anyone speak their mind!!! (Rider speaks his mind) Vitard Nation: WHY DOESN'T HE JUST SHUT UP...

Vitard Nation: We hate riders who are robots, why doesn't anyone speak their mind!!!

(Rider speaks his mind)

Vitard Nation: WHY DOESN'T HE JUST SHUT UP AND RIDE!

kaptkaos wrote:

DoctorJD, head Vitard, find one reference to anyone who said they DO NOT LIKE CHAD REED. This is simply a discussion about historical fact and why...

DoctorJD, head Vitard, find one reference to anyone who said they DO NOT LIKE CHAD REED. This is simply a discussion about historical fact and why he is in his current situation.

Being a Vitard by definition means a lack of reading comprehension and a propensity towards selectively taking others words out of context to create a dichotomy in your favor.

In the future please do not add, remove or selectively chop up my remarks and you will understand the whole point is that its not about you, me or the whole Vitard Nation. Chad Reed is who he his, everyone knows it and he is a great champion that is not ready to accept that the sport is moving on without him. Just as it has for the last 40 years.

Chad Reed is a great champion, who thinks he is bigger than the sport and thats what makes him interesting and relevent even after his results dont.

I will entertain this debate until someone can provide a valid rational argument against it or until the Vitard Nation makes it impossible to participate, I put my money on the latter!

kaptkaos wrote:

DoctorJD, head Vitard, find one reference to anyone who said they DO NOT LIKE CHAD REED. This is simply a discussion about historical fact and why...

DoctorJD, head Vitard, find one reference to anyone who said they DO NOT LIKE CHAD REED. This is simply a discussion about historical fact and why he is in his current situation.

Being a Vitard by definition means a lack of reading comprehension and a propensity towards selectively taking others words out of context to create a dichotomy in your favor.

In the future please do not add, remove or selectively chop up my remarks and you will understand the whole point is that its not about you, me or the whole Vitard Nation. Chad Reed is who he his, everyone knows it and he is a great champion that is not ready to accept that the sport is moving on without him. Just as it has for the last 40 years.

Chad Reed is a great champion, who thinks he is bigger than the sport and thats what makes him interesting and relevent even after his results dont.

I will entertain this debate until someone can provide a valid rational argument against it or until the Vitard Nation makes it impossible to participate, I put my money on the latter!

Ray_MXS wrote:

DoctorJD is a 100% correct though and you're wrong, that's the part you must have missed.

kaptkaos wrote:

DoctorJD, head Vitard, find one reference to anyone who said they DO NOT LIKE CHAD REED. This is simply a discussion about historical fact and why...

DoctorJD, head Vitard, find one reference to anyone who said they DO NOT LIKE CHAD REED. This is simply a discussion about historical fact and why he is in his current situation.

Being a Vitard by definition means a lack of reading comprehension and a propensity towards selectively taking others words out of context to create a dichotomy in your favor.

In the future please do not add, remove or selectively chop up my remarks and you will understand the whole point is that its not about you, me or the whole Vitard Nation. Chad Reed is who he his, everyone knows it and he is a great champion that is not ready to accept that the sport is moving on without him. Just as it has for the last 40 years.

Chad Reed is a great champion, who thinks he is bigger than the sport and thats what makes him interesting and relevent even after his results dont.

I will entertain this debate until someone can provide a valid rational argument against it or until the Vitard Nation makes it impossible to participate, I put my money on the latter!

Ray_MXS wrote:

DoctorJD is a 100% correct though and you're wrong, that's the part you must have missed.

kaptkaos wrote:

I like vocal riders, you all like vocal riders. Do you or I pay Chad Reeds bills?? This is a business, the man races for a...

I like vocal riders, you all like vocal riders. Do you or I pay Chad Reeds bills??

This is a business, the man races for a living to earn income for his family. Sure he loves it, but a musician loves his art but wants to get paid.

Whatever we like matters not. The riders have already learned they have to be the face of the Team and say the right things. MX is a small sport, there arent 32 other teams willing to hire him. Even In the Nfl, Kapernick managed to talk his way out of 32 job optikns in a leavue where talent can get you hired even if you are a convicted felon.

My whole point is yes we like him as fans but we really dont count. The sport is a corporation sponsored by corporations who want minions making them millions. Chad no longer fits that mold and struggkes to get signed every year. If it wasnt true then why has he struggled and had to make his own way at his expense the last few years?

It was a good interview but aside from the end, its all stuff we have all heard and read countless times over and thats why I am focusing on that aspect.

TDeath21 wrote:

There are 22 upvotes on the OP’s post and I encourage everyone to keep it that way.

Ray_MXS wrote:

DoctorJD is a 100% correct though and you're wrong, that's the part you must have missed.

kaptkaos wrote:

I like vocal riders, you all like vocal riders. Do you or I pay Chad Reeds bills?? This is a business, the man races for a...

I like vocal riders, you all like vocal riders. Do you or I pay Chad Reeds bills??

This is a business, the man races for a living to earn income for his family. Sure he loves it, but a musician loves his art but wants to get paid.

Whatever we like matters not. The riders have already learned they have to be the face of the Team and say the right things. MX is a small sport, there arent 32 other teams willing to hire him. Even In the Nfl, Kapernick managed to talk his way out of 32 job optikns in a leavue where talent can get you hired even if you are a convicted felon.

My whole point is yes we like him as fans but we really dont count. The sport is a corporation sponsored by corporations who want minions making them millions. Chad no longer fits that mold and struggkes to get signed every year. If it wasnt true then why has he struggled and had to make his own way at his expense the last few years?

It was a good interview but aside from the end, its all stuff we have all heard and read countless times over and thats why I am focusing on that aspect.

Ray_MXS wrote:

Haven't occurred to you that Reed is probably at the very end of his career now has it? If he doesn't get the JGR gig now...

Haven't occurred to you that Reed is probably at the very end of his career now has it? If he doesn't get the JGR gig now he's 99% retiring, pretty much said so himself.
10 years ago sure it would make sense not to burn bridges but he's not going back to Yamaha ever again so why not speak his mind? As a fan this is fantastic reading. More people should be open like this

kaptkaos wrote:

No one is arguing that he is not a great champion and legend of the sport. But he has been his own worst enemy. Why dont...

No one is arguing that he is not a great champion and legend of the sport. But he has been his own worst enemy.

Why dont you go to work today and complain about your companies product, the people you work with, even your boss. Lets see how well that goes for you. Racing is a business and unless you are willing to pay the bills and own the team, you have a boss. The boss wants you to deliver results and tow the compamy line. If you cant do that then you will find yourself without a ride sooner or later. He did this enough times that he has not had a good contract for some time.

He is 36, there are no mulligans, do overs or next years. He needs to ride and make a few bucks to keep him afloat the rest of his life. Since he hasnt learned to be PC, I dont see a future as an ambassador for any current brand.

RV was not a very happy guy during his championship streak but he kept his mouth shut and won races. Eli didnt like the Kawi at first, he kept his mouth shut and won races. Dungey always searched for the elusive setup but nevered blamed the bike or the team, he just won titles.

Its a business at the end of the day. In a perfect world it would be Chad Reed and Bubba banging bars and brawling but thats ancient history.

kaptkaos wrote:

No one is arguing that he is not a great champion and legend of the sport. But he has been his own worst enemy. Why dont...

No one is arguing that he is not a great champion and legend of the sport. But he has been his own worst enemy.

Why dont you go to work today and complain about your companies product, the people you work with, even your boss. Lets see how well that goes for you. Racing is a business and unless you are willing to pay the bills and own the team, you have a boss. The boss wants you to deliver results and tow the compamy line. If you cant do that then you will find yourself without a ride sooner or later. He did this enough times that he has not had a good contract for some time.

He is 36, there are no mulligans, do overs or next years. He needs to ride and make a few bucks to keep him afloat the rest of his life. Since he hasnt learned to be PC, I dont see a future as an ambassador for any current brand.

RV was not a very happy guy during his championship streak but he kept his mouth shut and won races. Eli didnt like the Kawi at first, he kept his mouth shut and won races. Dungey always searched for the elusive setup but nevered blamed the bike or the team, he just won titles.

Its a business at the end of the day. In a perfect world it would be Chad Reed and Bubba banging bars and brawling but thats ancient history.

809 wrote:

Not sure where you work, but I would say you could go to 90%+ of work places and find people complaining about the company, boss etc...

Not sure where you work, but I would say you could go to 90%+ of work places and find people complaining about the company, boss etc. It happens everywhere, just like the constant whining on here.

kaptkaos wrote:

Just because he needs a special fork lug doesnt mean everyone else does. He has been whining about every situation he has been in since he...

Just because he needs a special fork lug doesnt mean everyone else does. He has been whining about every situation he has been in since he shut down 22 Motorsports. I get it, if it was just once but its just happening at every spot he lands on and the teams keep cutting him loose. I dont think thats a coincidence. With his great knowledge, speed and experience he should have been able to buy the bike that suit shim last year and been a top 5 guy all year but he didnt. Barcia was a lot like him, but he got the hint and just quit blaming the bike and decided to do what he needed to go fast and say the right things.

Like I said, I am a Chad Reed fan, and want him to stick around as long as he can, but I can see why the teams let him go, and why they arent fighting over him. He will get a chance due to the misfortune of Peicks accident.

Sure Chad can tell the team very minute details about what HE WANTS the bike to do, but that doesnt make a better race or production bike, and the teams arent stupid, they way the pros and cons of his feedback and results versus the negative remarks he can make when things dont go his way and most decide the Juice aint worth the squeeze. Perhaps, if he was lighting hte world on fire with his results they would, as they have done in the past and for other riders, but that ship has sailed and he needs to play the PC card and be smart to extend his career and make more money. The point is, you have the bike and team you have, make the best of it, work within their system and be a positive contributor. Its not your team anymore, you dont pay the bills, THEY DO. Thats all.

I hope he does well this year, and can help JGR and Suzuki get back on top, I highly doubt it, but it would be great to see.

When its all over, I hope he made enough money to write a tell all book, because he has strong feelings about the sport, the promoters, the sanctioning body, the teams, the bikes, the press, the tracks pretty much everything. There is a time and manner to be vocal if you want to be a Sponsored Factory rider. That time is when you are on top or when you have enough FU $$$.

drt410 wrote:

Exactly he even admitted this about Villopoto. He said RV could go fast on the Kawi no matter how bad it was. Isnt that EXACTLY what...

Exactly he even admitted this about Villopoto. He said RV could go fast on the Kawi no matter how bad it was. Isnt that EXACTLY what you want as a mfg? The bikes are all pretty damn good get out there and ride. The bikes are essentially as good as it gets, 100000 times better than oem or anyone elses bikes. Get out there and ride it your an mx racer. If RV will just take the bike and ride it how it is and win but Reed needs 1.2mm wider fork lugs and still doesnt win who do you honestly want on your bike? He was self defeating with that one that really hurt his case. If someone wins on the still very very good bike you give them and the other person complains about everything and doesnt win, is that not the biggest no brainer ever? Sorry but the problem is Reed blames the bikes for bad results and RV just goes out and wins on the bike he has. Still a fan but thats the hard truth admitted to here by Reed. Why is he saying Kawi was wrong for not changing the bike cuz hes not winning on it when RV is? That makes no sense. If RV IS winning... the bike clearly IS good enough to win on.. so go win. Some of the things he says make no sense... well are excuses for why hes not.

kaptkaos wrote:

DoctorJD, head Vitard, find one reference to anyone who said they DO NOT LIKE CHAD REED. This is simply a discussion about historical fact and why...

DoctorJD, head Vitard, find one reference to anyone who said they DO NOT LIKE CHAD REED. This is simply a discussion about historical fact and why he is in his current situation.

Being a Vitard by definition means a lack of reading comprehension and a propensity towards selectively taking others words out of context to create a dichotomy in your favor.

In the future please do not add, remove or selectively chop up my remarks and you will understand the whole point is that its not about you, me or the whole Vitard Nation. Chad Reed is who he his, everyone knows it and he is a great champion that is not ready to accept that the sport is moving on without him. Just as it has for the last 40 years.

Chad Reed is a great champion, who thinks he is bigger than the sport and thats what makes him interesting and relevent even after his results dont.

I will entertain this debate until someone can provide a valid rational argument against it or until the Vitard Nation makes it impossible to participate, I put my money on the latter!