STOLEN: Alex Ray’s YZ450F

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imoto34 wrote:
that would hardly slow down a thief. Snip
I’m willing to bet most thieves targeting a moto van aren’t walking around with a large cable cutter or cordless angle grinder, which is what you...
I’m willing to bet most thieves targeting a moto van aren’t walking around with a large cable cutter or cordless angle grinder, which is what you would need to cut through a thick braided steel cable. Easy in, easy out. Why not make it difficult?

Also, an insurance policy on a dirt bike is super cheap. I have a $500 deductible policy that costs $200/year through State Farm.
If you think a thief can get into the locked van but can't get through a 8 buck lock your aren't thinking clearly. Plus those cheap wire ropes can be cut with a pare of dikes. It is just something to slow them down a second. Bikes left in a van are a simple target. Plus many are dim enough to logo it while leaving bikes in a van or trailer while being uninsured.





9/1/2018 4:39am
imoto34 wrote:
that would hardly slow down a thief. Snip
I’m willing to bet most thieves targeting a moto van aren’t walking around with a large cable cutter or cordless angle grinder, which is what you...
I’m willing to bet most thieves targeting a moto van aren’t walking around with a large cable cutter or cordless angle grinder, which is what you would need to cut through a thick braided steel cable. Easy in, easy out. Why not make it difficult?

Also, an insurance policy on a dirt bike is super cheap. I have a $500 deductible policy that costs $200/year through State Farm.
Markel insurance all day, all the way. $250/yr for full coverage on my 2018 CRF 450RX. If it gets stolen within 3 yrs, I get a current year bike. Price includes coverage for all the goodies on it too. Plus, if I break the bike in half trailriding that's covered too. Zero coverage while racing though...
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9/1/2018 4:41am
I can’t believe some people are blaming the victim. It’s not like it was out on the sidewalk. Blame the criminals.
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MBR wrote:
I have used this 25 dollar disk lock with motion detect alarm. It is pretty nice and loud and only trouble I have had is that...
I have used this 25 dollar disk lock with motion detect alarm. It is pretty nice and loud and only trouble I have had is that some neighbours have came over to check what is going on when I have tried to move the bike without taking the lock off. It is not something thieves maybe notice so easy and it will be surprise when the alarm goes off. They probably run rather than wait the owner to kick their ass.

https://www.amazon.com/Anti-theft-Motorcycle-Waterproof-Security-Motorb…
Thanks for the link. Just purchased one.
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9/1/2018 7:26am
Didn't he have a vehicle stolen last year..I am thinking that he may need to reconcider the security of his belongings.
If I’m not mistaken he said on pulp he had his truck stolen twice. Kind of makes you wonder.
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The "poor me" and keep a look out theft posts confuse me. Anyone who owns a dirt bike or keeps expensive things in a van should...
The "poor me" and keep a look out theft posts confuse me. Anyone who owns a dirt bike or keeps expensive things in a van should have solid homeowners or renters insurance so the contents of the van are covered. The bike has a VIN so it should be insured individually. Keeping an eye out is irrelevant if you get paid for what was stolen. This is why insurance exists. What am I missing here?
Exactly , nobody is blaming the victim. But owning stuff requires certain things. 10k toy , no insurance is foolish
Sucks either way.
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kaptkaos wrote:
Comeon guys, havent we all learned not to leave bikes in the vans under ANY circumstances???? If you are in a band, dont leave your gear...
Comeon guys, havent we all learned not to leave bikes in the vans under ANY circumstances????

If you are in a band, dont leave your gear in the van
If you are a Corp slave or student, dont leave your laptop in the car
If you are a photographer dont leave your cameras in the car

Point blank, if you care about your shit, take care of it. No matter how late or how tired you are, it will be much worse in the morning.

Thieves are never tired and never take the night off.
mxb2 wrote:
Boom. , And insure them.
As promised, can’t be a stolen bike thread without you coming in and being a douche. Thanks for taking the heat off Big E.
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kaptkaos wrote:
Comeon guys, havent we all learned not to leave bikes in the vans under ANY circumstances???? If you are in a band, dont leave your gear...
Comeon guys, havent we all learned not to leave bikes in the vans under ANY circumstances????

If you are in a band, dont leave your gear in the van
If you are a Corp slave or student, dont leave your laptop in the car
If you are a photographer dont leave your cameras in the car

Point blank, if you care about your shit, take care of it. No matter how late or how tired you are, it will be much worse in the morning.

Thieves are never tired and never take the night off.
mxb2 wrote:
Boom. , And insure them.
kr wrote:
As promised, can’t be a stolen bike thread without you coming in and being a douche. Thanks for taking the heat off Big E.
Just stating facts, check the mirror tough guy.
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9/1/2018 8:41am
ARay may want to move to a different neighborhood
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9/1/2018 8:43am
mxb2 wrote:
Boom. , And insure them.
kr wrote:
As promised, can’t be a stolen bike thread without you coming in and being a douche. Thanks for taking the heat off Big E.
mxb2 wrote:
Just stating facts, check the mirror tough guy.
So am I, check the mirror cop with chip on shoulder.
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kr wrote:
As promised, can’t be a stolen bike thread without you coming in and being a douche. Thanks for taking the heat off Big E.
mxb2 wrote:
Just stating facts, check the mirror tough guy.
kr wrote:
So am I, check the mirror cop with chip on shoulder.
Yea ok , lmao. Are facts and truth a chip on a shoulder. Guess we found out who doesnt have insurance. Stay inside snow flake. The real world is tough out there.
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mxb2 wrote:
Just stating facts, check the mirror tough guy.
kr wrote:
So am I, check the mirror cop with chip on shoulder.
mxb2 wrote:
Yea ok , lmao. Are facts and truth a chip on a shoulder. Guess we found out who doesnt have insurance. Stay inside snow flake. The...
Yea ok , lmao. Are facts and truth a chip on a shoulder. Guess we found out who doesnt have insurance. Stay inside snow flake. The real world is tough out there.
Who the fuck is we? You have a turd in your pocket? Typical cop making false allegations.
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kr wrote:
So am I, check the mirror cop with chip on shoulder.
mxb2 wrote:
Yea ok , lmao. Are facts and truth a chip on a shoulder. Guess we found out who doesnt have insurance. Stay inside snow flake. The...
Yea ok , lmao. Are facts and truth a chip on a shoulder. Guess we found out who doesnt have insurance. Stay inside snow flake. The real world is tough out there.
kr wrote:
Who the fuck is we? You have a turd in your pocket? Typical cop making false allegations.
Typical.internet tough guy lmao. Get out in the real world.
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9/1/2018 2:48pm
any lock is better then no lock but like others have said that cable and pad lock is not doing shit. If they have any kind of proper tool they can cut that lock in literally one second or that wire depending how think it is. Even the chain instead of that wire, same thing. Or hammer the lock open.

But yeah for a ray that is horrible especially if the bike is from yamaha
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9/1/2018 3:09pm Edited Date/Time 9/1/2018 3:09pm
Alarms... Loud fucking alarms! You can hang out in a van or garage for hours to cut locks but when a loud ass alarm is sounding, the scumbags beat feet.
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9/1/2018 5:31pm
kaptkaos wrote:
Comeon guys, havent we all learned not to leave bikes in the vans under ANY circumstances???? If you are in a band, dont leave your gear...
Comeon guys, havent we all learned not to leave bikes in the vans under ANY circumstances????

If you are in a band, dont leave your gear in the van
If you are a Corp slave or student, dont leave your laptop in the car
If you are a photographer dont leave your cameras in the car

Point blank, if you care about your shit, take care of it. No matter how late or how tired you are, it will be much worse in the morning.

Thieves are never tired and never take the night off.
mxb2 wrote:
Boom. , And insure them.
kr wrote:
As promised, can’t be a stolen bike thread without you coming in and being a douche. Thanks for taking the heat off Big E.
There is no heat on Big E, just a bunch of nut sucklers who can’t fucking read.
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9/1/2018 5:47pm
The "poor me" and keep a look out theft posts confuse me. Anyone who owns a dirt bike or keeps expensive things in a van should...
The "poor me" and keep a look out theft posts confuse me. Anyone who owns a dirt bike or keeps expensive things in a van should have solid homeowners or renters insurance so the contents of the van are covered. The bike has a VIN so it should be insured individually. Keeping an eye out is irrelevant if you get paid for what was stolen. This is why insurance exists. What am I missing here?
mxb2 wrote:
Exactly , nobody is blaming the victim. But owning stuff requires certain things. 10k toy , no insurance is foolish
Sucks either way.
I’d love to hear about the free deductibles you guys are getting. . .

I’ll wait.
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mxb2 wrote:
Boom. , And insure them.
kr wrote:
As promised, can’t be a stolen bike thread without you coming in and being a douche. Thanks for taking the heat off Big E.
newmann wrote:
There is no heat on Big E, just a bunch of nut sucklers who can’t fucking read.
Eh, I read in nonmoto that some people are just assholes .

But, I love the entertainment here, would probably pay for it but ,,,,

Carry on
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9/1/2018 5:56pm Edited Date/Time 9/1/2018 6:01pm
JM485 wrote:
I’d love to hear about the free deductibles you guys are getting. . .

I’ll wait.
I have a $500 deductible on my insured motorcycle. I’ll take that over a $10k loss any day.
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The "poor me" and keep a look out theft posts confuse me. Anyone who owns a dirt bike or keeps expensive things in a van should...
The "poor me" and keep a look out theft posts confuse me. Anyone who owns a dirt bike or keeps expensive things in a van should have solid homeowners or renters insurance so the contents of the van are covered. The bike has a VIN so it should be insured individually. Keeping an eye out is irrelevant if you get paid for what was stolen. This is why insurance exists. What am I missing here?
mxb2 wrote:
Exactly , nobody is blaming the victim. But owning stuff requires certain things. 10k toy , no insurance is foolish
Sucks either way.
JM485 wrote:
I’d love to hear about the free deductibles you guys are getting. . .

I’ll wait.
Free deductibles? Those cost extra, had a few customers over the years with zero.
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The "poor me" and keep a look out theft posts confuse me. Anyone who owns a dirt bike or keeps expensive things in a van should...
The "poor me" and keep a look out theft posts confuse me. Anyone who owns a dirt bike or keeps expensive things in a van should have solid homeowners or renters insurance so the contents of the van are covered. The bike has a VIN so it should be insured individually. Keeping an eye out is irrelevant if you get paid for what was stolen. This is why insurance exists. What am I missing here?
The high cost of insurance and the unwillingness for insurance companies to pay out.

I’ve had bikes every day of my life for 53 years and lived in crime heavy So Cal the entire time. I’ve had one stolen during this timeframe and it was recovered in the desert a few days later. I never paid a cent on insurance in that 53 years. If I had coverage during that time for every bike I’ve owned I could have bought a motorcycle shop for the amount of premiums I would have paid out
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The "poor me" and keep a look out theft posts confuse me. Anyone who owns a dirt bike or keeps expensive things in a van should...
The "poor me" and keep a look out theft posts confuse me. Anyone who owns a dirt bike or keeps expensive things in a van should have solid homeowners or renters insurance so the contents of the van are covered. The bike has a VIN so it should be insured individually. Keeping an eye out is irrelevant if you get paid for what was stolen. This is why insurance exists. What am I missing here?
KennyT wrote:
The high cost of insurance and the unwillingness for insurance companies to pay out. I’ve had bikes every day of my life for 53 years and...
The high cost of insurance and the unwillingness for insurance companies to pay out.

I’ve had bikes every day of my life for 53 years and lived in crime heavy So Cal the entire time. I’ve had one stolen during this timeframe and it was recovered in the desert a few days later. I never paid a cent on insurance in that 53 years. If I had coverage during that time for every bike I’ve owned I could have bought a motorcycle shop for the amount of premiums I would have paid out
High cost of insurance? My last bike was a 2015 RMZ 450 and full coverage insurance was less than $100 every 6 months. To each their own I guess.
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The "poor me" and keep a look out theft posts confuse me. Anyone who owns a dirt bike or keeps expensive things in a van should...
The "poor me" and keep a look out theft posts confuse me. Anyone who owns a dirt bike or keeps expensive things in a van should have solid homeowners or renters insurance so the contents of the van are covered. The bike has a VIN so it should be insured individually. Keeping an eye out is irrelevant if you get paid for what was stolen. This is why insurance exists. What am I missing here?
KennyT wrote:
The high cost of insurance and the unwillingness for insurance companies to pay out. I’ve had bikes every day of my life for 53 years and...
The high cost of insurance and the unwillingness for insurance companies to pay out.

I’ve had bikes every day of my life for 53 years and lived in crime heavy So Cal the entire time. I’ve had one stolen during this timeframe and it was recovered in the desert a few days later. I never paid a cent on insurance in that 53 years. If I had coverage during that time for every bike I’ve owned I could have bought a motorcycle shop for the amount of premiums I would have paid out
High cost of insurance? My last bike was a 2015 RMZ 450 and full coverage insurance was less than $100 every 6 months. To each their...
High cost of insurance? My last bike was a 2015 RMZ 450 and full coverage insurance was less than $100 every 6 months. To each their own I guess.
What if the person you quoted had 70 plus motorcycles at any given time?
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KennyT wrote:
The high cost of insurance and the unwillingness for insurance companies to pay out. I’ve had bikes every day of my life for 53 years and...
The high cost of insurance and the unwillingness for insurance companies to pay out.

I’ve had bikes every day of my life for 53 years and lived in crime heavy So Cal the entire time. I’ve had one stolen during this timeframe and it was recovered in the desert a few days later. I never paid a cent on insurance in that 53 years. If I had coverage during that time for every bike I’ve owned I could have bought a motorcycle shop for the amount of premiums I would have paid out
High cost of insurance? My last bike was a 2015 RMZ 450 and full coverage insurance was less than $100 every 6 months. To each their...
High cost of insurance? My last bike was a 2015 RMZ 450 and full coverage insurance was less than $100 every 6 months. To each their own I guess.
newmann wrote:
What if the person you quoted had 70 plus motorcycles at any given time?
If you can afford to have 70 at a time, then you can afford the insurance or the loss. With 70, I assume they are stored somewhere and the insurance on that residence or business would cover the loss. No different than a car collector with 70 cars. Those shouldn't be insured either?

How is this even an argument? Shit happens, thats why insurance exists. If you chose not to have it, don't complain when that shit happens.
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High cost of insurance? My last bike was a 2015 RMZ 450 and full coverage insurance was less than $100 every 6 months. To each their...
High cost of insurance? My last bike was a 2015 RMZ 450 and full coverage insurance was less than $100 every 6 months. To each their own I guess.
newmann wrote:
What if the person you quoted had 70 plus motorcycles at any given time?
If you can afford to have 70 at a time, then you can afford the insurance or the loss. With 70, I assume they are stored...
If you can afford to have 70 at a time, then you can afford the insurance or the loss. With 70, I assume they are stored somewhere and the insurance on that residence or business would cover the loss. No different than a car collector with 70 cars. Those shouldn't be insured either?

How is this even an argument? Shit happens, thats why insurance exists. If you chose not to have it, don't complain when that shit happens.
You sound angry. I’m insurance poor, and still many things aren’t covered. Pick and choose, take some risks. I doubt Kenny T has ever set up a go fund me account so he could go ride his dirt bike.
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newmann wrote:
What if the person you quoted had 70 plus motorcycles at any given time?
If you can afford to have 70 at a time, then you can afford the insurance or the loss. With 70, I assume they are stored...
If you can afford to have 70 at a time, then you can afford the insurance or the loss. With 70, I assume they are stored somewhere and the insurance on that residence or business would cover the loss. No different than a car collector with 70 cars. Those shouldn't be insured either?

How is this even an argument? Shit happens, thats why insurance exists. If you chose not to have it, don't complain when that shit happens.
newmann wrote:
You sound angry. I’m insurance poor, and still many things aren’t covered. Pick and choose, take some risks. I doubt Kenny T has ever set up...
You sound angry. I’m insurance poor, and still many things aren’t covered. Pick and choose, take some risks. I doubt Kenny T has ever set up a go fund me account so he could go ride his dirt bike.
I am not angry at all. I just feel bad for these guys when their bike gets stolen or even trailers full of bikes and they are not insured. I grew up not far from Alex and was hauled away from his Dad's track in an ambulance once too. I feel bad for him especially, unless he chose not to insure it. In that case, the risk was taken and it didn't work out.
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I can't figure out why no one has alarms on their vans or trucks. Who is gonna steal a bike when a 120db alarm is going off?
Also disc locks with motion alarms are cheap. When the bike is in the garage put one of those babies on.
I'm lucky, i live in an area where i have left my garage door open over night on multiple occasions and never lost a thing, i would think people who live in an area of higher crime would be a little more switched on
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9/1/2018 8:10pm
Most likely a "friend" that knew where it would be got it.
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Someone posted on FB when this story came up that they hide a GPS device somewhere on their bike. Anyone else do this? Seems pretty smart

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