Here's the 2019 Suzukis

coastlinecascot 7/17/2018 8:04pm
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coastlinecascot wrote:
Could you fit the 250 shock to the new 450? That brc shock is trash
racinstation wrote:
Serious question....have you ridden the BFRC? I am not arguing just asking.
Yes. Also it's a bitch to change the oil. It's just way too loose of a shock for me. Also was not confident inspiring seat bouncing. It's just weird.
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evorex 7/17/2018 8:12pm
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coastlinecascot wrote:
Yes. Also it's a bitch to change the oil. It's just way too loose of a shock for me. Also was not confident inspiring seat bouncing...
Yes. Also it's a bitch to change the oil. It's just way too loose of a shock for me. Also was not confident inspiring seat bouncing. It's just weird.
I had one of these kits installed:

Krooztune RMZ Balance Shaft Kit

Transformed my '18 RMZ450

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Gillboy67 7/17/2018 8:25pm
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coastlinecascot wrote:
Could you fit the 250 shock to the new 450? That brc shock is trash
Got mine working great! Enzo revalve and spring with JGR link
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make1go 7/17/2018 8:55pm
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LoudLove wrote:
Poll question: how many riders would consider an MX bike with 2-4 year old technology, but an MSRP 10-20% less than the competition? For example, would...
Poll question: how many riders would consider an MX bike with 2-4 year old technology, but an MSRP 10-20% less than the competition? For example, would people buy a "2019" RMZ if underneath it was a 2015/16, but with a demonstrably lower OTD price? Supplier costs would dictate the feasibility of this concept for manufacturers, but there may be a market for such a concept.
yamaha are selling bikes from 12 years ago for around the same as. brand new designs,

the japanese comoanies arent philanthropic

it will take a good bike from a chinese company and that boat is incredibly slow..and the ship will have sailed before it docks...just to mix the metas

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coastlinecascot 7/17/2018 9:04pm
7/17/2018 9:04pm Edited Date/Time 7/17/2018 9:05pm
coastlinecascot wrote:
Could you fit the 250 shock to the new 450? That brc shock is trash
Gillboy67 wrote:
Got mine working great! Enzo revalve and spring with JGR link
Here's the deal i felt with it. I would seat bounce the same double triple whatever. 3 times it was ok. Next time it would buck
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Gillboy67 7/17/2018 9:24pm
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coastlinecascot wrote:
Here's the deal i felt with it. I would seat bounce the same double triple whatever. 3 times it was ok. Next time it would buck
Hmm never had that issue but I only rode it stock twice. Mine was a lil stink buggy but the link cured that. I had it revaved by Enzo after the second ride and was broke in. Never any funny issues. I love the bike.
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kiwifan 7/17/2018 9:26pm
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LoudLove wrote:
Poll question: how many riders would consider an MX bike with 2-4 year old technology, but an MSRP 10-20% less than the competition? For example, would...
Poll question: how many riders would consider an MX bike with 2-4 year old technology, but an MSRP 10-20% less than the competition? For example, would people buy a "2019" RMZ if underneath it was a 2015/16, but with a demonstrably lower OTD price? Supplier costs would dictate the feasibility of this concept for manufacturers, but there may be a market for such a concept.
Quite possibly could work. It would benefit those new to the sport or novice riders perhaps.

However for me, I need the latest and greatest at my level.

In fairness, I know a lot of riders who buy the latest and greatest and are no faster than a 55 year old on a Maico 500
Underground 7/17/2018 9:36pm
7/17/2018 9:36pm
coastlinecascot wrote:
Could you fit the 250 shock to the new 450? That brc shock is trash
ML512 wrote:
It should fit.
Ohlins or even WP Trax shock would be cheaper to buy if available

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/For-Sale-Bazaar,26/WP-Trax-Shock-for-RMZ-RM-250,1322986
http://www.rg3scandinavia.com/store/p/0/trax-shock-suzuki-rmz-450-2018-801836
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evorex 7/17/2018 9:50pm
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I put a krooztune balance shaft kit + link in my RMZ shock. It's the best bike I've ever ridden now. This is the way they should be stock.


Krooztune RMZ450 balance shaft kit
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racinstation 7/17/2018 9:59pm
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coastlinecascot wrote:
Could you fit the 250 shock to the new 450? That brc shock is trash
ML512 wrote:
It should fit.
Underground wrote:
Ohlins or even WP Trax shock would be cheaper to buy if available

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/For-Sale-Bazaar,26/WP-Trax-Shock-for-RMZ-RM-250,1322986
http://www.rg3scandinavia.com/store/p/0/trax-shock-suzuki-rmz-450-2018-801836
If available. I know the Ohlins for the 450 was sold out a long time ago. I would ride it and see for yourself first.
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22Ryann 7/18/2018 12:17am
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Suzuki will not recover from this debacle of 'New Releases', RIP Suzuki
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NorCal 50+ 7/18/2018 12:47am
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If you really want e-start, get the RMX450, but you're picking up 25 pounds from the RMZ450. The RMX is 272 pounds. I've been doing some off-roading on my old RM250 and I think it's around 209 lbs. dry. That's 63 pounds lighter than the RMX. I think I'll stick to the two-stroke.
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Neo78 7/18/2018 1:33am
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Gillboy67 wrote:
Well I get to save some $$$ in 19 love my 18 and she is all set up and works awesome and with the PROVEN motor...
Well I get to save some $$$ in 19 love my 18 and she is all set up and works awesome and with the PROVEN motor mods its a holeshot machine. BUT DAMN I WANT THAT E START!!!! lmao
A veteran rider friend, has fitted the E-Start off the RMX on his 18 RMZ - Could be an option
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ehr400 7/18/2018 3:26am
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I could buy the embargo on details about the bike and the February dealer date if it was 100% new. I mean jesus christ, thing has alot of carryover parts and nothing like holy shit I need to have this bike over a KTM or Yamaha. The marketing and engineering teams must be on 2 completly different realms of reality to think this is a great idea.
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AussieParaMX 7/18/2018 3:38am
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LoudLove wrote:
Poll question: how many riders would consider an MX bike with 2-4 year old technology, but an MSRP 10-20% less than the competition? For example, would...
Poll question: how many riders would consider an MX bike with 2-4 year old technology, but an MSRP 10-20% less than the competition? For example, would people buy a "2019" RMZ if underneath it was a 2015/16, but with a demonstrably lower OTD price? Supplier costs would dictate the feasibility of this concept for manufacturers, but there may be a market for such a concept.
kiwifan wrote:
Quite possibly could work. It would benefit those new to the sport or novice riders perhaps. However for me, I need the latest and greatest at...
Quite possibly could work. It would benefit those new to the sport or novice riders perhaps.

However for me, I need the latest and greatest at my level.

In fairness, I know a lot of riders who buy the latest and greatest and are no faster than a 55 year old on a Maico 500
the problem is 2-4yr old technology means they will still be updating at the same pace, just set back in time unless its 2-4yr old now and over time becomes 10-15yr old as the cycle is much longer. However this will likely mean a cheaper price coupled with less purchasing....

Unless the 2-4yr old technology means less quality or lower performance, im sure actual production cost of a 2014 crf450 is not much different to a 2018 crf450. And would you buy a 2014 crf450 now? But for it to be feasible it would need to remain a 2014 untill for another 4 yrs, then its 8yr old tech, then one more cycle of that and its goign to be 10-12yr old tech.

As a business model it just doesnt make sense unfortunately
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AussieParaMX 7/18/2018 3:43am
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ehr400 wrote:
I could buy the embargo on details about the bike and the February dealer date if it was 100% new. I mean jesus christ, thing has...
I could buy the embargo on details about the bike and the February dealer date if it was 100% new. I mean jesus christ, thing has alot of carryover parts and nothing like holy shit I need to have this bike over a KTM or Yamaha. The marketing and engineering teams must be on 2 completly different realms of reality to think this is a great idea.
Im so damn excited for some high level hyperbole in the advertising


Maybe they are just waiting to put 2018 motocross champion Alex Martin on the bike with a big Number 1 and a quote 'its the fastest crf150 ive ever ridden, i mean RMZ250 sorry'
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Motofinne 7/18/2018 3:44am
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ehr400 wrote:
I could buy the embargo on details about the bike and the February dealer date if it was 100% new. I mean jesus christ, thing has...
I could buy the embargo on details about the bike and the February dealer date if it was 100% new. I mean jesus christ, thing has alot of carryover parts and nothing like holy shit I need to have this bike over a KTM or Yamaha. The marketing and engineering teams must be on 2 completly different realms of reality to think this is a great idea.
AussieParaMX wrote:
Im so damn excited for some high level hyperbole in the advertising Maybe they are just waiting to put 2018 motocross champion Alex Martin on the...
Im so damn excited for some high level hyperbole in the advertising


Maybe they are just waiting to put 2018 motocross champion Alex Martin on the bike with a big Number 1 and a quote 'its the fastest crf150 ive ever ridden, i mean RMZ250 sorry'
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nascarnate326 7/18/2018 4:26am
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Correct me if I am wrong but doesnt it seem like Suzuki did the chassis and is going to do new engines next year?
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Steve125 7/18/2018 6:01am
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I've seen some JGR RMZ250 holeshots this year. You don't always have to reinvent the wheel to make big gains in HP.
The biggest sales cock block will be the lack of the magic button.
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fpandjic 7/18/2018 6:24am
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Since the weight is obviously not Suzuki's advantage, I was wondering how much heavier are aluminum frames compared to steel frame (ktm)?
coastlinecascot 7/18/2018 6:52am
7/18/2018 6:52am Edited Date/Time 7/18/2018 6:57am
I absolutely enjoy riding my rmz450. Handles great (with my kyb sss forks) with enough power (stiffer clutch springs). I can stand up wide open in corners. Great handling bike for the money. Only real downfall is the notchy transmission. My next rebuild. I'm going to tumble the transmission. To see if it corrects it.
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SmokinJoe439 7/18/2018 8:27am
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Outside the obvious changes the exhaust exits through the split cradle in the frame. So the head has to be a bit of a newer design this bike is newer then you haters think. Way some of you act it's just bold new plastic.
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CLT809 7/18/2018 8:52am
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Surprised nobody has noticed two injectors... one at the bottom of the airboot and the throttle body one mounted at the bottom as well.
Aceofspades 7/18/2018 9:02am
7/18/2018 9:02am
Gillboy67 wrote:
Well I get to save some $$$ in 19 love my 18 and she is all set up and works awesome and with the PROVEN motor...
Well I get to save some $$$ in 19 love my 18 and she is all set up and works awesome and with the PROVEN motor mods its a holeshot machine. BUT DAMN I WANT THAT E START!!!! lmao
Neo78 wrote:
A veteran rider friend, has fitted the E-Start off the RMX on his 18 RMZ - Could be an option
How is that even possible? Youd have to use the entire RMX engine pretty much? Not saying its not true, but Id really like to know for future reference.
Squirrelings 7/18/2018 9:26am
7/18/2018 9:26am
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Why would that matter? Kenny lost a race because his Suzuki had a hard time kicking over...
Who cares. None of us are Ken Roczen.
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BobPA 7/18/2018 9:32am
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NorCal 50+ wrote:
If you really want e-start, get the RMX450, but you're picking up 25 pounds from the RMZ450. The RMX is 272 pounds. I've been doing some...
If you really want e-start, get the RMX450, but you're picking up 25 pounds from the RMZ450. The RMX is 272 pounds. I've been doing some off-roading on my old RM250 and I think it's around 209 lbs. dry. That's 63 pounds lighter than the RMX. I think I'll stick to the two-stroke.
According to people on Vital, the scale weight is negligible. It is how it "feels".
Permeance_Flux 7/18/2018 9:57am
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BobPA wrote:
According to people on Vital, the scale weight is negligible. It is how it "feels".
e.g. the 248 lb CRF450R
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Gillboy67 7/18/2018 10:00am
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Gillboy67 wrote:
Well I get to save some $$$ in 19 love my 18 and she is all set up and works awesome and with the PROVEN motor...
Well I get to save some $$$ in 19 love my 18 and she is all set up and works awesome and with the PROVEN motor mods its a holeshot machine. BUT DAMN I WANT THAT E START!!!! lmao
Neo78 wrote:
A veteran rider friend, has fitted the E-Start off the RMX on his 18 RMZ - Could be an option
Aceofspades wrote:
How is that even possible? Youd have to use the entire RMX engine pretty much? Not saying its not true, but Id really like to know...
How is that even possible? Youd have to use the entire RMX engine pretty much? Not saying its not true, but Id really like to know for future reference.
Thats what I was thinking.
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Neo78 7/18/2018 11:04am
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Gillboy67 wrote:
Well I get to save some $$$ in 19 love my 18 and she is all set up and works awesome and with the PROVEN motor...
Well I get to save some $$$ in 19 love my 18 and she is all set up and works awesome and with the PROVEN motor mods its a holeshot machine. BUT DAMN I WANT THAT E START!!!! lmao
Neo78 wrote:
A veteran rider friend, has fitted the E-Start off the RMX on his 18 RMZ - Could be an option
Aceofspades wrote:
How is that even possible? Youd have to use the entire RMX engine pretty much? Not saying its not true, but Id really like to know...
How is that even possible? Youd have to use the entire RMX engine pretty much? Not saying its not true, but Id really like to know for future reference.
I’m not gonna lie, myself I can change air filter, oil filter and oil that’s about it, so I can’t say what he did. I do know it cost over £600 just for the parts

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