Monster / 30sec Card Girls

NYmotocross wrote:

and what exactly is a solution to this? lol .....

Torco1 wrote:

[img]https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yt6rZiXQUtw/TCvwKW7dBKI/AAAAAAAASt8/vN93OGJ4fzo/s400/funny-pictures-humor-guy-cheerlead-costume.png[/img]

Crush wrote:

I feel like lots of opinions get voiced in this sort of issue without anyone being real. First. Sex sells. Second. It sells to everyone. The...

I feel like lots of opinions get voiced in this sort of issue without anyone being real.

First. Sex sells.

Second. It sells to everyone.

The family sport argument? A lot of families are raising little cunts. You know how I know? Because there are a lot of cunts out there.

So whilst you can say it demeans, detracts, deters etc, well, I don't know if you took an IQ swab around your local pits lately but this post would seem polite some days so maybe do less with the moral high ground.

Should we aspire for more? Maybe. Will it make a difference? No. My wife isn't watching F1 because of the grid girls. She's not watching it because it's boring as hell and she doesn't give a fuck. And I'm certainly not raising my Daughter to expect everyone will be as good to her as I am her Mum.

Same with MX, I don't know if you've ever noticed, but people who aren't into MX, think it's boring as batshit. Unless you ride, that's it. Which is the BIGGEST problem we have, not a bit of qwacka-tinged lycra.

Lucifa. wrote:

Whats wrong with Monster sluts? Sheesh....

early wrote:

Supercross has a long history of women on the floor of races. [img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2017/12/14/231636/s1200_3c9405ab14b9e4bcce3ab5c5d8d3878b.jpg[/img]

Supercross has a long history of women on the floor of races.

GrapeApe wrote:

You said it yourself, they are trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I find the Monster girls embarrassing, but I don't drink PBR for...

You said it yourself, they are trying to appeal to the lowest common denominator. I find the Monster girls embarrassing, but I don't drink PBR for breakfast, watch monster trucks, or over-use the term snowflake. I'm not the target demo.

TriggerWarned wrote:

I'm not proposing anything. I'm trying to create a discussion around a topic that I find interesting. I honestly do not feel that passionate about the...

I'm not proposing anything. I'm trying to create a discussion around a topic that I find interesting.

I honestly do not feel that passionate about the issue, I just think it's relevant to our sport. For one thing, people mention frequently how "motocross is a family sport"... well, it's hard to be family oriented when the only females involved are presented as commodities with no value beyond aesthetics... seems like an odd message from a family-oriented source.

If you don't think it's about objectification of women, try thinking of the last time you saw a straight up ugly female standing on the podium, holding the 30-second card, or interviewing riders.

To point out the absurdity and hypocrisy even further, imagine how it would be received if instead of a half-naked female, it was a half-naked dude holding the 30-second card - talk about sex scandals. If it's not appropriate for one, why is it appropriate for another?

And for the record, I'm libertarian, not liberal. So, I don't believe that anyone should be forced to do anything - whether it has to do with 30-second card girls, guns, drugs, or whatever. TO EACH HIS OWN.

I'm just trying to start a discussion... not label people liberals or conservatives as a guide to dismiss their posts.

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

Don't go to the beach or a surf contest because you might see this....women's pro surfing actually gained some popularity in recent years due to the...

Don't go to the beach or a surf contest because you might see this....women's pro surfing actually gained some popularity in recent years due to the "bottom turn"....

yeah, stay away from the beach we need to thin the crowd.

TriggerWarned wrote:

Ashley Fiolek was pretty rad in her days. Her being deaf and beating Jessica Patterson in her prime is a true testament to her talent. If...

Ashley Fiolek was pretty rad in her days. Her being deaf and beating Jessica Patterson in her prime is a true testament to her talent. If I recall a woman tried to qualify for a couple SX rounds a year or two ago, I don't think she made the night show but she got mentioned on TV. Not sure what she has done since, or even her name off the top my head.

mauidex wrote:

NFL cheerleaders need to take a knee to protest guys like the OP

bball35 wrote:

They should get rid of all NFL cheerleaders. They are a meat market!!

Barry_Smith wrote:

I completely agree with getting rid of all cheerleaders, Monster Girls, etc. And as a pubic service, I am offering for them all to come and...

I completely agree with getting rid of all cheerleaders, Monster Girls, etc. And as a pubic service, I am offering for them all to come and live at my house, so that there is no way they can end up on tv and risk offending anyone.

I'll take that bullet, bros.





(BTW, there are no typos in my post...)

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

Don't go to the beach or a surf contest because you might see this....women's pro surfing actually gained some popularity in recent years due to the...

Don't go to the beach or a surf contest because you might see this....women's pro surfing actually gained some popularity in recent years due to the "bottom turn"....

yeah, stay away from the beach we need to thin the crowd.

NYmotocross wrote:

and what exactly is a solution to this? lol .....

Torco1 wrote:

[img]https://4.bp.blogspot.com/_yt6rZiXQUtw/TCvwKW7dBKI/AAAAAAAASt8/vN93OGJ4fzo/s400/funny-pictures-humor-guy-cheerlead-costume.png[/img]

crf250pilot wrote:

Is that Jeff Alessi?

bball35 wrote:

Guys be careful what you say on here or it is going to become national news that we vitards are sexist and animals. The #metoo movement...

Guys be careful what you say on here or it is going to become national news that we vitards are sexist and animals. The #metoo movement is huge

bball35 wrote:

Guys be careful what you say on here or it is going to become national news that we vitards are sexist and animals. The #metoo movement...

Guys be careful what you say on here or it is going to become national news that we vitards are sexist and animals. The #metoo movement is huge

DavetheVintageGuy wrote:

I love the [b]#metoo[/b] folks. I always ask them if they realize they are asking for someone to "[b]pound me too[/b]" when all these poor helpless...

I love the #metoo folks.

I always ask them if they realize they are asking for someone to "pound me too" when all these poor helpless females are being harassed.

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

Don't go to the beach or a surf contest because you might see this....women's pro surfing actually gained some popularity in recent years due to the...

Don't go to the beach or a surf contest because you might see this....women's pro surfing actually gained some popularity in recent years due to the "bottom turn"....

yeah, stay away from the beach we need to thin the crowd.

agn5009 wrote:

I mean, obviously the majority don't hate seeing the beautiful women at races. So what are you proposing exactly?

TriggerWarned wrote:

I'm not proposing anything. I'm trying to create a discussion around a topic that I find interesting. I honestly do not feel that passionate about the...

I'm not proposing anything. I'm trying to create a discussion around a topic that I find interesting.

I honestly do not feel that passionate about the issue, I just think it's relevant to our sport. For one thing, people mention frequently how "motocross is a family sport"... well, it's hard to be family oriented when the only females involved are presented as commodities with no value beyond aesthetics... seems like an odd message from a family-oriented source.

If you don't think it's about objectification of women, try thinking of the last time you saw a straight up ugly female standing on the podium, holding the 30-second card, or interviewing riders.

To point out the absurdity and hypocrisy even further, imagine how it would be received if instead of a half-naked female, it was a half-naked dude holding the 30-second card - talk about sex scandals. If it's not appropriate for one, why is it appropriate for another?

And for the record, I'm libertarian, not liberal. So, I don't believe that anyone should be forced to do anything - whether it has to do with 30-second card girls, guns, drugs, or whatever. TO EACH HIS OWN.

I'm just trying to start a discussion... not label people liberals or conservatives as a guide to dismiss their posts.

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

Don't go to the beach or a surf contest because you might see this....women's pro surfing actually gained some popularity in recent years due to the...

Don't go to the beach or a surf contest because you might see this....women's pro surfing actually gained some popularity in recent years due to the "bottom turn"....

yeah, stay away from the beach we need to thin the crowd.

Forty wrote:

Great Post.

Rockinar wrote:

Anastasia Ashley's contest warm up (Not self loathing white Liberal approved).


https://youtu.be/OE43epM76Pg

Black Diesel Bomber wrote:

Don't go to the beach or a surf contest because you might see this....women's pro surfing actually gained some popularity in recent years due to the...

Don't go to the beach or a surf contest because you might see this....women's pro surfing actually gained some popularity in recent years due to the "bottom turn"....

yeah, stay away from the beach we need to thin the crowd.

Anonymous wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/42346331 F1 is re-evaluating it's use of "Grid Girls". These Grid Girls seem similar to the Monster Girls/Lucas Oil Girls and 30-second card girls employed in...

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/42346331

F1 is re-evaluating it's use of "Grid Girls". These Grid Girls seem similar to the Monster Girls/Lucas Oil Girls and 30-second card girls employed in SX and MX.

From the article "There's a lot of people respect the tradition of the grid girls and there's people who feel that it has become a bit dated, so we're addressing that."

In regards to MX and SX, I have personally felt this way for a long time. I am different than most men, there is no appeal to seeing models awkwardly stand around guys on the podium. Similarly, I don't understand the rationale behind a model holding the 30 second card while an official stands right next to her. It just seems juvenile and as though the promoters are appealing to the lowest common denominator.

Same thing with Miss Supercross - what is that about? She isn't bringing any information to the table that is new or intriguing, and generally it's painfully awkward to hear her stumble through whatever Twitter segment they have her doing.

I'm simply looking to start a discussion with this topic. Discuss, debate, flame, whatever.

Anonymous wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/42346331 F1 is re-evaluating it's use of "Grid Girls". These Grid Girls seem similar to the Monster Girls/Lucas Oil Girls and 30-second card girls employed in...

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/42346331

F1 is re-evaluating it's use of "Grid Girls". These Grid Girls seem similar to the Monster Girls/Lucas Oil Girls and 30-second card girls employed in SX and MX.

From the article "There's a lot of people respect the tradition of the grid girls and there's people who feel that it has become a bit dated, so we're addressing that."

In regards to MX and SX, I have personally felt this way for a long time. I am different than most men, there is no appeal to seeing models awkwardly stand around guys on the podium. Similarly, I don't understand the rationale behind a model holding the 30 second card while an official stands right next to her. It just seems juvenile and as though the promoters are appealing to the lowest common denominator.

Same thing with Miss Supercross - what is that about? She isn't bringing any information to the table that is new or intriguing, and generally it's painfully awkward to hear her stumble through whatever Twitter segment they have her doing.

I'm simply looking to start a discussion with this topic. Discuss, debate, flame, whatever.

Bosco wrote:

I completely agree with you. It's even more embarrassing than the Ronnie Mac stuff. A way better idea would be to have some local amateur kids...

I completely agree with you. It's even more embarrassing than the Ronnie Mac stuff. A way better idea would be to have some local amateur kids doing the 30 sec board/ trophy presentations/ etc. That way they get to get their own sponsors some publicity, and motocross can actually be called a family sport.

If you want to watch motorsport, watch motorsport. If you want to look at tits, they have places for that too. I'd swear some of you never made it past puberty.

I get that the women working for Monster Energy are doing so consensually, and are earning good money doing so. I just don't think the job they perform is either necessary or appropriate.

On the subject of "sex sells": according to studies on the subject, sex sells sex, not products. If you see a half naked Monster Energy girl walking through the pits, what are you thinking about? You're thinking about her, not about Monster Energy. I think they call it the vampire effect. It's a waste of everyone's time. Whenever I buy energy drinks (which is basically never - they're poison), I make sure to buy Red Bull. They do cool shit with their marketing budget, like Felix Baumgartner's space jump, or the Red Bull Rampage, while Monster just hire hot women to wear barely anything and be in photos.

Anonymous wrote:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/42346331 F1 is re-evaluating it's use of "Grid Girls". These Grid Girls seem similar to the Monster Girls/Lucas Oil Girls and 30-second card girls employed in...

http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/42346331

F1 is re-evaluating it's use of "Grid Girls". These Grid Girls seem similar to the Monster Girls/Lucas Oil Girls and 30-second card girls employed in SX and MX.

From the article "There's a lot of people respect the tradition of the grid girls and there's people who feel that it has become a bit dated, so we're addressing that."

In regards to MX and SX, I have personally felt this way for a long time. I am different than most men, there is no appeal to seeing models awkwardly stand around guys on the podium. Similarly, I don't understand the rationale behind a model holding the 30 second card while an official stands right next to her. It just seems juvenile and as though the promoters are appealing to the lowest common denominator.

Same thing with Miss Supercross - what is that about? She isn't bringing any information to the table that is new or intriguing, and generally it's painfully awkward to hear her stumble through whatever Twitter segment they have her doing.

I'm simply looking to start a discussion with this topic. Discuss, debate, flame, whatever.

Bosco wrote:

I completely agree with you. It's even more embarrassing than the Ronnie Mac stuff. A way better idea would be to have some local amateur kids...

I completely agree with you. It's even more embarrassing than the Ronnie Mac stuff. A way better idea would be to have some local amateur kids doing the 30 sec board/ trophy presentations/ etc. That way they get to get their own sponsors some publicity, and motocross can actually be called a family sport.

If you want to watch motorsport, watch motorsport. If you want to look at tits, they have places for that too. I'd swear some of you never made it past puberty.

I get that the women working for Monster Energy are doing so consensually, and are earning good money doing so. I just don't think the job they perform is either necessary or appropriate.

On the subject of "sex sells": according to studies on the subject, sex sells sex, not products. If you see a half naked Monster Energy girl walking through the pits, what are you thinking about? You're thinking about her, not about Monster Energy. I think they call it the vampire effect. It's a waste of everyone's time. Whenever I buy energy drinks (which is basically never - they're poison), I make sure to buy Red Bull. They do cool shit with their marketing budget, like Felix Baumgartner's space jump, or the Red Bull Rampage, while Monster just hire hot women to wear barely anything and be in photos.