Tomac Says No to Des Nations

7/29/2017 8:41pm
I heard that Eli has been taking a knee during the National Anthem, too.


7/29/2017 8:45pm
Definitely take Anderson and Osborne. The third rider could be any of the following from the 250 class - AP, Savatgy, A Mart, J Mart, or AC. I'd go with J Mart as he's second in points.
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7/29/2017 8:47pm
Des Nations is an AMAING event to attend, and whatever the reasons - read, Energy Drinks - I'm sick of the decline in the perceived importance...
Des Nations is an AMAING event to attend, and whatever the reasons - read, Energy Drinks - I'm sick of the decline in the perceived importance. It should be the flagship outdoor event of the year.

France is going to win anyway.
Don't count out Belguim or Netherlands
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7/29/2017 8:49pm
WFO wrote:
So Sad people don't understand Business an the Short Career these guys have. It could all end in a second. Tomac is just being Smart, and...
So Sad people don't understand Business an the Short Career these guys have.
It could all end in a second. Tomac is just being Smart, and since Not One of you pays his bills he really could give a RAt's Ass what you think!

So you are saying all of the previous MXDN US riders are dumb? Or anyone else who races in this years MXDN are dumb?

I commend any rider who races for their country, at least someone has the balls to represent us to the best of their ability.

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7/29/2017 8:55pm
WFO wrote:
So Sad people don't understand Business an the Short Career these guys have. It could all end in a second. Tomac is just being Smart, and...
So Sad people don't understand Business an the Short Career these guys have.
It could all end in a second. Tomac is just being Smart, and since Not One of you pays his bills he really could give a RAt's Ass what you think!
kiwifan wrote:
So you are saying all of the previous MXDN US riders are dumb? Or anyone else who races in this years MXDN are dumb? I commend...

So you are saying all of the previous MXDN US riders are dumb? Or anyone else who races in this years MXDN are dumb?

I commend any rider who races for their country, at least someone has the balls to represent us to the best of their ability.
Didn't Rd get shit canned when he was captain n team USA got beat .

Carmichael.
Stewart
Windham
Never had issue doing mxdn....
7/29/2017 8:55pm
kzizok wrote:
Googlefiend, I doubt his contract specifically says he cant go, but obliges him to too many things too close to the des Nations time. Just speculation...
Googlefiend,
I doubt his contract specifically says he cant go, but obliges him to too many things too close to the des Nations time. Just speculation though.
DPR250R wrote:
Thought I remember him saying that himself.
This is just speculation, but would he really come out and say his team/sponsors wont let him race it? Or would he say his schedule is too busy (i know it is very busy)
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7/29/2017 9:02pm
I wonder why no one writes an article with the past patriot winners discussing the current no confidence behavior being exhibited and accepted as the new norm?
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7/29/2017 9:04pm
I will no longer root for Eli. He's lost a fan here.
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7/29/2017 9:04pm
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7/29/2017 9:07pm
agn5009 wrote:
I will no longer root for Eli. He's lost a fan here.
Jesus Christ.
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7/29/2017 9:10pm
agn5009 wrote:
I will no longer root for Eli. He's lost a fan here.
TripleFive wrote:
Jesus Christ.
We get it dude. You support Eli's decision. You can let other people have an opinion, too.
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7/29/2017 9:11pm
kzizok wrote:
Serious question. Is Martin D. a US citizen?
I'm not 100% sure on this but I don't think Davalos is a US citizen. At least not yet. He's been living in Georgia/Florida/MTF for easily over 10 years now but I remember he didn't make it to the Toronto SX round on the count of his visa. It had something to do along the lines that he could easily come to Canada but might have trouble getting back in the US. He didn't want to risk it so stayed south for that round and then said it was because of family issues.

Then again he could be since he's married.
7/29/2017 9:12pm
Don't you guys realize that both Dungey and Eli bowed out of the MxDN last year?

Why are you just now announcing your withdrawal of support?
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7/29/2017 9:14pm
May sound crazy but, why not #800!? Like him or hate him,you know hes gonna give it 100%!
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7/29/2017 9:15pm
You cant blame him really, i would rather he told Monster to shove the GP fair up their arse and ride the Des Nations though.
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7/29/2017 9:15pm
Glad Ricky never said no.
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7/29/2017 9:16pm
Sucks to say, but I hope we don't even send a team. Osborne is our only top guy and he really wants to go, but we...
Sucks to say, but I hope we don't even send a team. Osborne is our only top guy and he really wants to go, but we need to be able to send our best team.
Swann wrote:
No dude. We're America, not France. We don't give up, ever, especially in fucking England. Ze Germans are coming.
Um, you do know France has won it 4 years in a row?
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7/29/2017 9:16pm Edited Date/Time 7/29/2017 9:21pm
TripleFive wrote:
Don't you guys realize that both Dungey and Eli bowed out of the MxDN last year?

Why are you just now announcing your withdrawal of support?
Dungey opted out after doing it 6 years in a row and was getting married and wanted to go on a honeymoon... and last year he had a broken neck so...
7/29/2017 9:17pm
Huevos wrote:
Dungey opted out after doing it 6 years in a row and was getting married and wanted to go on a honeymoon... and last year he...
Dungey opted out after doing it 6 years in a row and was getting married and wanted to go on a honeymoon... and last year he had a broken neck so...
He was riding before the 2016 MxDN.
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7/29/2017 9:18pm
TripleFive wrote:
He was riding before the 2016 MxDN.
Ken Roczen is riding right now, too. Maybe Germany should send him?
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7/29/2017 9:20pm
Sucks to say, but I hope we don't even send a team. Osborne is our only top guy and he really wants to go, but we...
Sucks to say, but I hope we don't even send a team. Osborne is our only top guy and he really wants to go, but we need to be able to send our best team.
Swann wrote:
No dude. We're America, not France. We don't give up, ever, especially in fucking England. Ze Germans are coming.
JustMX wrote:
Um, you do know France has won it 4 years in a row?
I dont think he was talking about France at the des Nation's, rather WW II.
7/29/2017 9:22pm
Kind of ironic that during the qualifying broadcast they were zoomed in on Eli's helmet with a big American flag painted on it. Thought they might have been giving us a little hint.
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7/29/2017 9:22pm
i'm just gonna say this cause I say it every year, and I'm not trolling or anything. Who cares? I mean, who cares if we go or not? or Eli goes?

I wouldn't go. I love watching that race, but i can't pretend that it means much. I could care less what nation is the best at motocross.

Both the AMA and MXGP have the best riders from all over the world competing against each other already. I don't see the point anymore. I see the MXdN race as a legacy. It's no longer relevant imo.
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7/29/2017 9:23pm
Sucks to say, but I hope we don't even send a team. Osborne is our only top guy and he really wants to go, but we...
Sucks to say, but I hope we don't even send a team. Osborne is our only top guy and he really wants to go, but we need to be able to send our best team.
Swann wrote:
No dude. We're America, not France. We don't give up, ever, especially in fucking England. Ze Germans are coming.
JustMX wrote:
Um, you do know France has won it 4 years in a row?
It's been 3 years... and even with America's "B Team" it's been damn close the last two years, including the time we were down a rider in the last moto.
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7/29/2017 9:25pm
Blame Supercross
7/29/2017 9:27pm Edited Date/Time 7/29/2017 9:37pm
Huevos wrote:
Ken Roczen is riding right now, too. Maybe Germany should send him?
RD was injured on June 4, 2016, and the KTM press release said the injury "requires a minimum of 6-8 weeks healing time." The 2016 MXdN was on September 24th-25th. He (through Aldon) announced very early on that RD would not be involved.

He raced the MEC two weeks later.
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7/29/2017 9:28pm
struth wrote:
Didn't Rd get shit canned when he was captain n team USA got beat .

Carmichael.
Stewart
Windham
Never had issue doing mxdn....
All of those guys bowed out of the 2004 MXDN at Lierop, Netherlands

RC's excuse was his pending switch to Suzuki
Stew's excuse was wanting to get ready to move up to 250 for '05
Windham's excuse was RC and Stew weren't going and at the time he was afraid of flying commercial (despite being a pilot himself).


At the time, even Pastrana who was retired was writing letters into RacerX volunteering to go.

Belgium smoked everyone. No team USA because those guys wouldn't go.

http://memotocross.fr/downloads/mem-04-mxdn-res-complet.pdf
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7/29/2017 9:28pm
TripleFive wrote:
He was riding before the 2016 MxDN.
Huevos wrote:
Ken Roczen is riding right now, too. Maybe Germany should send him?
Unlikely ken would get picked on current race form..
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7/29/2017 9:30pm
500guy wrote:
Osborne, Anderson and J. Martin
Good
7/29/2017 9:32pm
Well, I hope America does send a team, even if it is the B team it will still likely pose a serious shot at winning, especially round Matterley. All the more glory for those guys. It's a shame Supercrosss is so damn long.

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