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My personal spreadsheet is nothing more than a list of the 19 riders who were advanced to B last year by the AMA because last years results ended up giving them an RPV over the limit to stay in B class. The sheet also included the actual RPV number, years they have raced C, what area qualifiers they entered in C, and the classes they were in.
If you do a rider search on 17 of those 19 riders on the AMA website, it then shows that their current status is "C" because of appeal to the AMA.
Don't know, couldn't get any answers. Just taking their advancement list and rider profiles at face value.
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The other issue is many places simply don't have qualifiers near them so it makes it prohibitive in cost to race AMA stuff. Here in the NW there are very few opportunities for A riders to earn AMA Pro points to be able to ride nationals unless they travel.
Local promoters want little to do with the AMA from what I have seen. Wanting everyone to conform to one set of standards would be tough and not good for amateur racing, imo..............I am not sure anyone really cares about the C class except those riding it. There are bigger problems with AM MX..........
C'mon bro...
Just to reiterate that the AMA classifications and appeals process is complete hogwash I submit the following:
At the Ironman regional the winner of both the 250C and 250C Ltd classes was won by a rider who appealed his B class promotion to the AMA because, according to the AMA rules, he was a non-competitive rider in C class and should be allowed to remain in C, yet he sweeps two classes in the regional and would have had a third if not for a wreck.
Same regional, another non-competitive C class rider takes the number two spot in 450C and yet another had a top ten in 250C JR Ltd.
Moving on to the Northeast regional at Pleasure Valley, both the 450C and 250C Ltd classes were won by an appealed rider, and had another in 7th. 250C Jr had one in top five, and 250C had one in 13th.
Bottom line, how can you submit an appeal to the AMA, have them review it and confirm that, yes indeed, you are non-competitive, you then go out and sweep areas and regionals, but yet it is not reviewed (per the AMA rules) and the AMA is OK with that.
The AMA needs to either revise or completely eliminate its published rules regarding the RPV, classification and appeals process because it is not worth the paper it is written on. I have submitted the proof, you can decide for yourselves. Thanks for listening to my ramblings.
There were probably 18 entries in the C class with only 3 entries in B.
Some of the C and B rider road together in another class with the C rider coming out on top.
You don't want to move to A? Ok that's fine, you're a local B rider, but you will NEVER go to LL in the B class again.
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You know the old saying... can't fight city hall.
Just putting the information out there, which I think most everybody already knew, and most don't give a hoot anyways.
They do have a fine roadside assistance program though.
Amateur national championship classes should only be by displacement, age, and stock/modified. Maybe throw in a Pro/Am so retired pros who haven't qualified for a National or Supercross in the last 5 years can participate......
Besides the C class being a joke, the vet classes are unfair as well.
They're called the "Amateur Nationals", yet the Vet classes are littered with ex-pro's.
You can work your ass off and spend a ton of money to get there. Then enjoy getting smoked by an ex-pro.
Once a pro, always a pro. imo
That said, I think DC has done a great job with the pro nats!!
Yes, C class should be for up and comers however, this class has turned highly competitive at the "National" level. Locally its still more so like its design but defiantly not at the National level.
Training facilities are full of "C" class riders who yes, could be a top 10 B class National rider as well. And every year, I can count at least 6 kids I never heard of coming out of the wood work here in the SouthEast.
His Step-Mom, Jong Ock Mao, was busted for running a brothel here in Texas at his practice facility (MX Oasis) that same year. Oh, and human smuggling was involved.
From 2008
Bail Set For Santa Ana Alleged Brothel Operator
(CBS) SANTA ANA
A magistrate in Santa Ana set bail at $100,000 Wednesday for a man, 51, arrested for his alleged role in the operation of brothels where women worked as prostitutes to pay off smuggling fees.
Randall Johnson of Los Angeles was named in a 40-count grand jury indictment, along with alleged brothel operator Jong Ock Mao, 47, of West Covina, Edward Lutt, 43, of Paramount, and Charles Fields, 49, of Long Beach, who remains a fugitive, according to Assistant U.S. Attorney Carmen Luege.
Johnson and Lutt, who was in court Tuesday, were ordered to appear Monday for arraignment in U.S. District Court in Santa Ana, Luege said.
Mao was arrested in Madisonville, Texas, Tuesday and appeared Wednesday in a Houston courtroom, where her bail was set at $150,000, Luege said.
It was not known if she would be returned to California by Monday to appear for arraignment, Luege said.
Search warrants were served Tuesday at eight Los Angeles-area locations, including three suspected brothels in Baldwin Park, Inglewood and South Gate, and three homes, including those of Mao and Lutt and the Canyon Country residence of Mao's bookkeeper, Virginia Kice of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement said.
ICE agents in Dallas searched a suspected brothel known as the Paradise Spa, where four women were taken into custody, Kice said. Two were booked on state prostitution charges, and the other two were being held on administrative immigration violations, she said.
Charges against Mao, Lutt, Fields and Johnson include conspiracy, money laundering and using the mails to set up an illegal business, such as sending applications for licenses to Sacramento and Dallas, Kice said.
According to search warrant affidavits, the three men filed business licenses to operate massage parlors and tanning salons in Southern California and Dallas that served as fronts for brothels operated by Mao.
The indictment was an offshoot of an ongoing investigation that initially targeted the Jung Organization, which smuggled South Korean women into the United States and turned them over to brothel operators to work off fees as high as $15,000, Luege said.
Fifteen of the two-dozen people charged in that case, including Young Joon Jung, have pleaded guilty. Five are awaiting trial and four remain at large, Luege said.
The four people charged in the latest indictment, which was returned by a grand jury on April 5 and unsealed Tuesday, do not face smuggling charges.
"They are the end users of the smuggling chain," said supervising ICE Agent Buckley Thomas. "They were not the people responsible for smuggling." Dozens of women were caught up in the operations, Thomas said.
Most of the women knew they were coming to the United States to work as prostitutes and did so willingly, but investigators will try to determine if any of them were victimized in other ways, such as being held against their will, Kice said.
They will be interviewed for a decision on whether they should be prosecuted or deported, Kice said.
Federal agents are looking to seize more than $4 million in assets tied to the alleged criminal scheme, including bank accounts, residences and four private motocross tracks in California, Texas and Florida. The tracks are operated by a company Mao owns called MX Oasis
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