Official idiotic Tomac front brake opinion thread

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Edited Date/Time 5/31/2017 8:22am
Got an idio-. . . Er, I mean brilliant opinion on what caused the brake failure, or a genius way for his team to fix it, please post it here. Anything new you would carry on the team cart, like any entire new KX450f to rob parts off, let it be known here. I figure this should clean up quite a few threads.

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GuyB 5/27/2017 8:40pm
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I think you'll see the team make a switch to the master cylinder they've used forever, instead of the one Eli prefers (which is slightly different) by next week.
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Phantom 661 5/27/2017 8:41pm
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I don't doubt that change one bit.
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RhinoRider 5/27/2017 8:41pm
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A kid can fix a bent disc in less than 5 seconds. Don't need to pull the wheel, cut lines, or anything.
It's about the easiest thing ever to fix next to hitting your wheel against something to align your bars back straight when you crash
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FalseNeutral 5/27/2017 8:41pm
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Who is he using now? I think everyone should know which company just ruined the championship ...again

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Yamaknockers 5/27/2017 8:45pm
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Those mechanics didn't know what they were doing, no spare bike ready, couldn't change a complete front brake and wheel in 20 seconds, didn't have the bike set up with quick change triple clamps. Idiots. They should just run a stock front brake.
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JM485 5/27/2017 8:45pm
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GuyB wrote:
I think you'll see the team make a switch to the master cylinder they've used forever, instead of the one Eli prefers (which is slightly different)...
I think you'll see the team make a switch to the master cylinder they've used forever, instead of the one Eli prefers (which is slightly different) by next week.
This is for idiotic opinions only Guybro, nice job following directions.Tongue

Seriously though, I'm interested to see what they go with. Ironically enough I had just got around to reading a Transworld interview with him from a while back (I think before his first brake problem), and when asked what his favorite/trickest part of the bike was he said the front brake.Grinning
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kzizok 5/27/2017 9:40pm
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RhinoRider wrote:
A kid can fix a bent disc in less than 5 seconds. Don't need to pull the wheel, cut lines, or anything. It's about the easiest...
A kid can fix a bent disc in less than 5 seconds. Don't need to pull the wheel, cut lines, or anything.
It's about the easiest thing ever to fix next to hitting your wheel against something to align your bars back straight when you crash
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ledger 5/27/2017 9:42pm
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Drum brakes to the rescue, to hell with fancy rotors, DOT filled brake lines, master cylinders and blingy master cylinder caps, banjo bolts, and calipers. Whistling
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USMCMXer 5/27/2017 9:44pm
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FalseNeutral wrote:
Who is he using now? I think everyone should know which company just ruined the championship ...again
Did that same company force him into two shit starts as well? Eli is frustrating to pull for because the only thing he does consistently is make mistakes, get poor starts, and digs a championship hole that is ridiculously difficult to dig out of! C'mon Eli!
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Acidreamer 5/27/2017 9:47pm
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Maybe they shouldnt have assumed the brakes gender. Maybe it would have worked if they were nicer.
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FalseNeutral 5/27/2017 9:54pm
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I don't think it was damaged from a crash. To me it looks like they aren't doing a good job of bleeding the brakes and if there is air in there it gets hot and when air is hot it expands. This would make the brakes be funny.
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SEE ARE125 5/27/2017 9:57pm
5/27/2017 9:57pm
They should switch from breaks to brakes.
Park and Huck 5/27/2017 9:59pm
5/27/2017 9:59pm
Jason Weigandt‏ @JasonWeigandt 25s26 seconds ago
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Talked to Tomac real quickly after the race, says he didn't hit anything, brake suddenly locked up just like DallasSX. NOT happy
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jk367 5/27/2017 10:02pm
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FalseNeutral wrote:
Who is he using now? I think everyone should know which company just ruined the championship ...again
Championship is far from over my friend. Him and jmart are still very much in this thing
EZZA 95B 5/27/2017 10:05pm
5/27/2017 10:05pm
FalseNeutral wrote:
Who is he using now? I think everyone should know which company just ruined the championship ...again
I won't be using them... Dragon or Spy either.
Hman144 5/28/2017 6:25am
5/28/2017 6:25am
SEE ARE125 wrote:
They should switch from breaks to brakes.
I see what you did there. Funny.
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Motofinne 5/28/2017 6:27am
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Switch to Brembo.
shaffstall721 5/28/2017 6:40am
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Park and Huck wrote:
Jason Weigandt‏ @JasonWeigandt 25s26 seconds ago More Talked to Tomac real quickly after the race, says he didn't hit anything, brake suddenly locked up just like...
Jason Weigandt‏ @JasonWeigandt 25s26 seconds ago
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Talked to Tomac real quickly after the race, says he didn't hit anything, brake suddenly locked up just like DallasSX. NOT happy
I bet he's wishing he didn't sign that extension right now lol

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lumpy790 5/28/2017 6:42am
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Bazar to have the same failure 2 times in 1 season. I would think after it happening once the cart would have a somplete brake system in the cart ready to bolt on just in case.
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ML512 5/28/2017 6:44am
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GuyB wrote:
I think you'll see the team make a switch to the master cylinder they've used forever, instead of the one Eli prefers (which is slightly different)...
I think you'll see the team make a switch to the master cylinder they've used forever, instead of the one Eli prefers (which is slightly different) by next week.
Master cylinder or caliper? Eli uses the caliper that he used at Honda, which Kawi has never used as they have their own spec.

For anyone wondering, they're both made by Nissin.
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slipdog 5/28/2017 6:51am
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GuyB wrote:
I think you'll see the team make a switch to the master cylinder they've used forever, instead of the one Eli prefers (which is slightly different)...
I think you'll see the team make a switch to the master cylinder they've used forever, instead of the one Eli prefers (which is slightly different) by next week.
ML512 wrote:
Master cylinder or caliper? Eli uses the caliper that he used at Honda, which Kawi has never used as they have their own spec. For anyone...
Master cylinder or caliper? Eli uses the caliper that he used at Honda, which Kawi has never used as they have their own spec.

For anyone wondering, they're both made by Nissin.
I had a Nissin hardbody extended cab 3.0v6 in the '90's and had two 15" CV's with a countersunk power 1000 amp in a box behind the front seats. Loved that truck!
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GuyB wrote:
I think you'll see the team make a switch to the master cylinder they've used forever, instead of the one Eli prefers (which is slightly different)...
I think you'll see the team make a switch to the master cylinder they've used forever, instead of the one Eli prefers (which is slightly different) by next week.
ML512 wrote:
Master cylinder or caliper? Eli uses the caliper that he used at Honda, which Kawi has never used as they have their own spec. For anyone...
Master cylinder or caliper? Eli uses the caliper that he used at Honda, which Kawi has never used as they have their own spec.

For anyone wondering, they're both made by Nissin.
What ever part it is, it appears that a check valve or relief passage is sticking or getting blocked and it might be that the Master cylinder and Caliper are not 100% made for each other.

What ever it is , I'm blown away it's happened twice.
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lumpy790 5/28/2017 7:05am
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GuyB wrote:
I think you'll see the team make a switch to the master cylinder they've used forever, instead of the one Eli prefers (which is slightly different)...
I think you'll see the team make a switch to the master cylinder they've used forever, instead of the one Eli prefers (which is slightly different) by next week.
ML512 wrote:
Master cylinder or caliper? Eli uses the caliper that he used at Honda, which Kawi has never used as they have their own spec. For anyone...
Master cylinder or caliper? Eli uses the caliper that he used at Honda, which Kawi has never used as they have their own spec.

For anyone wondering, they're both made by Nissin.
500guy wrote:
What ever part it is, it appears that a check valve or relief passage is sticking or getting blocked and it might be that the Master...
What ever part it is, it appears that a check valve or relief passage is sticking or getting blocked and it might be that the Master cylinder and Caliper are not 100% made for each other.

What ever it is , I'm blown away it's happened twice.
If you adjust the lever so you barley have to squeeze it it will start sticking when it gets hot. Did ET3 adjust it sitting on the start line?
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davistld01 5/28/2017 7:13am
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FalseNeutral wrote:
Who is he using now? I think everyone should know which company just ruined the championship ...again
USMCMXer wrote:
Did that same company force him into two shit starts as well? Eli is frustrating to pull for because the only thing he does consistently is...
Did that same company force him into two shit starts as well? Eli is frustrating to pull for because the only thing he does consistently is make mistakes, get poor starts, and digs a championship hole that is ridiculously difficult to dig out of! C'mon Eli!
Pressure effects different riders...differently.
JustPuttinAround 5/28/2017 7:27am
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That front brake choked under pressure!!!
Whistling
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cbuehler767 5/28/2017 7:33am
5/28/2017 7:33am
Yup championship is down the drain. Even a rider of Eli's caliber can't overcome such an insurmountable points deficit with only 20 motos left. Smfh
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GuyB wrote:
I think you'll see the team make a switch to the master cylinder they've used forever, instead of the one Eli prefers (which is slightly different)...
I think you'll see the team make a switch to the master cylinder they've used forever, instead of the one Eli prefers (which is slightly different) by next week.
ML512 wrote:
Master cylinder or caliper? Eli uses the caliper that he used at Honda, which Kawi has never used as they have their own spec. For anyone...
Master cylinder or caliper? Eli uses the caliper that he used at Honda, which Kawi has never used as they have their own spec.

For anyone wondering, they're both made by Nissin.
500guy wrote:
What ever part it is, it appears that a check valve or relief passage is sticking or getting blocked and it might be that the Master...
What ever part it is, it appears that a check valve or relief passage is sticking or getting blocked and it might be that the Master cylinder and Caliper are not 100% made for each other.

What ever it is , I'm blown away it's happened twice.
Dammit, that's my opinion. You can't have it! Check valve or return passage. I'm gonna copyright it now.

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dbrunski125 5/28/2017 7:59am
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GuyB wrote:
I think you'll see the team make a switch to the master cylinder they've used forever, instead of the one Eli prefers (which is slightly different)...
I think you'll see the team make a switch to the master cylinder they've used forever, instead of the one Eli prefers (which is slightly different) by next week.
ML512 wrote:
Master cylinder or caliper? Eli uses the caliper that he used at Honda, which Kawi has never used as they have their own spec. For anyone...
Master cylinder or caliper? Eli uses the caliper that he used at Honda, which Kawi has never used as they have their own spec.

For anyone wondering, they're both made by Nissin.
Isn't eli using a different master cylnder then the style rv was using. His the banjo bolt is at the back. With rv his was at the front? I'm assuming they are using a crf front master cylnder instead on standard kawi master cylnder?

On a side note.

What master cylnder does factory suzuki and factory honda use? It's different then the factory kawi one eli is using (it also has the banjo bolt at the back)
TheOriginalPancakee 5/28/2017 8:04am
5/28/2017 8:04am
cbuehler767 wrote:
Yup championship is down the drain. Even a rider of Eli's caliber can't overcome such an insurmountable points deficit with only 20 motos left. Smfh
Hahaah right. He's not down that much and he's clearly faster then everyone. I think he will be fine. I mean he came back from 29 points in supercross against Dungey
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greenmx5 5/28/2017 8:12am
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I hear they are switching to these next week. No more bent discs with these.

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