so .... whats wrong with dungey?

Dinosaur Media 2/21/2017 7:10am
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1. I think he has knocked his wife up and now has more pressing thoughts in regards to his future...
2. Hiding an injury that has caused him to back off his training - explaining the fade seen at MN.
mjr119 2/21/2017 7:23am
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Dinosaur Media wrote:
1. I think he has knocked his wife up and now has more pressing thoughts in regards to his future... 2. Hiding an injury that has...
1. I think he has knocked his wife up and now has more pressing thoughts in regards to his future...
2. Hiding an injury that has caused him to back off his training - explaining the fade seen at MN.
Or he keeps getting paid pretty much the same amount... which is a lot by my calculations... so he keeps on keeping on. Doing what he needs to do. Hopefully retiring healthy.
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Ryan Dungey was hired at RedBull KTM to win championships...not necessarily every race. When the smoke clears at the end of this season, he will have done what he was paid to do. In the meantime, guys like Tomac, Musquin, Seely & even Anderson will have a chance to get on the box to prepare for the 2018 season. Everybody wins!
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There's nothing wrong with him. Listen to this week's post-race press conference video. He had a big moment, went off the track, and Marv got by...
There's nothing wrong with him. Listen to this week's post-race press conference video. He had a big moment, went off the track, and Marv got by him.



It is interesting to see how the points have fluctuated over the last four rounds. Here's the points difference for both Eli and Marvin as the chase Dungey.

Tomac
Phoenix (win) -20
Oakland (win) -17
Dallas (15th after brake problems) -29
Minneapolis (win) -24

Marvin
Phoenix -15
Oakland (9th after a crash) -25
Dallas (win) -18
Minneapolis -16

Is this championship over? Not by a long stretch.
I've not watched one of those pressers before, but did you guys notice how fidgety Ryan was? Quite the contrast to both Eli and Marvin. It seems out of character for him to be like that. I mean, he reminded me of a little kid who can't sit still...and thats not Ryan. He is usually so solid.

So I disagree....something is up. Perhaps he was simply uncomfortable because he realizes he can't run the pace of those guys and its gonna tighten up if they don't crash out. Perhaps all the consequences to Roczen's crash is bugging him a little. Likely its not just one thing...but I do think this is the last season we'll see him.

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Phillip_Lamb 2/21/2017 11:39pm
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i know there are a variety of theories but im not gonna read all the posts but just add my 2cents

So

Ryan dungey is dealing with a variety of factors as to why he is finishing the way he is. Clearly he isn crushing people like last year which is perhaps why everyone is scratching their heads so much

1. Dungey is approaching 30 years old. your body start slowing down in your late 20's and history has shown that most racers dont last into their 30s and still be on top. (john dowd being the exception) so he may be starting down the hill

2. Dungey has always been a bit of a head case (not like KW pre 2003) he has been known for searching and searching and searching for that "something". he is an overthinker and he tries to ride "perfectly" and use just the right amount which is why he is smooth and has no flair.

3. Dungey was just like this for about 4 years when RV2 won his titles. Dungey was right there but Villo had the aggresion to get in front of him. Dungey doesnt lose by wearing down, he is a steady rock. He gets beat by being out ridden every night and overwhelmed with attacks
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I saw what I saw, but out of respect for all of the riders I deleted my post, and I respectfully ask that you delete yours as well.
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rawmetalmedia wrote:
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Radical wrote:
I saw what I saw, but out of respect for all of the riders I deleted my post, and I respectfully ask that you delete yours...
I saw what I saw, but out of respect for all of the riders I deleted my post, and I respectfully ask that you delete yours as well.
Deleted. I stand by my point of view but you are right there is no need to stir it up
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Ryan Dungey was hired at RedBull KTM to win championships...not necessarily every race. When the smoke clears at the end of this season, he will have...
Ryan Dungey was hired at RedBull KTM to win championships...not necessarily every race. When the smoke clears at the end of this season, he will have done what he was paid to do. In the meantime, guys like Tomac, Musquin, Seely & even Anderson will have a chance to get on the box to prepare for the 2018 season. Everybody wins!
That may be true but the other two guys in the top three caught him in three of the last four races. You must have missed GuyB's post. Like he also said, the championship is long from over. I understand you are a big fan, but Dungey this year isn't Dungey from last year so far and you honestly can't say that he is that guy until he beats the others consistently like he has been in past years. A broken neck may slow a guy down just a touch.
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He's hungry. Needs some steak.
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davistld01 wrote:
Ryan Dungey was hired at RedBull KTM to win championships...not necessarily every race. When the smoke clears at the end of this season, he will have...
Ryan Dungey was hired at RedBull KTM to win championships...not necessarily every race. When the smoke clears at the end of this season, he will have done what he was paid to do. In the meantime, guys like Tomac, Musquin, Seely & even Anderson will have a chance to get on the box to prepare for the 2018 season. Everybody wins!
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That may be true but the other two guys in the top three caught him in three of the last four races. You must have missed...
That may be true but the other two guys in the top three caught him in three of the last four races. You must have missed GuyB's post. Like he also said, the championship is long from over. I understand you are a big fan, but Dungey this year isn't Dungey from last year so far and you honestly can't say that he is that guy until he beats the others consistently like he has been in past years. A broken neck may slow a guy down just a touch.
I agree to the extent that Dungey's neck injury might play a part in a bit of added conservatism in his riding again, and that reluctance to ride to his limit has cost him in the past as well. Yeah, I'm a fan...but also a realist. The other top three guys have the knowledge & confidence that they can beat him now, and Dungey is going to either have to rise above or hand the baton to Tomac or Musquin. Never count the guy out though...he knows how to do this better than anybody currently out there.
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There isn't much left for him to accomplish in racing. Breaking his neck, getting married, maturing and seeing Roczen's accident may have cumulatively swayed his motivation to take risks. Even given that, he is the odds on favorite to win the SX championship. When he is comfortable he'll go as fast as anybody, when not, he'll tone it back a bit. But, he will be there for the finish of every race (for things he can control) and for Eli for Marvin to beat him for the title they will have to push even on days they are not comfortable.
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something is up! this is not normal for him, no bashing just opinions. between qualifying, heat races, mains, he doesn't seem right.
Nothing is wrong with him. The sport is harder than many of you think.
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mx836 2/22/2017 6:32am
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davistld01 wrote:
Ryan Dungey was hired at RedBull KTM to win championships...not necessarily every race. When the smoke clears at the end of this season, he will have...
Ryan Dungey was hired at RedBull KTM to win championships...not necessarily every race. When the smoke clears at the end of this season, he will have done what he was paid to do. In the meantime, guys like Tomac, Musquin, Seely & even Anderson will have a chance to get on the box to prepare for the 2018 season. Everybody wins!
mx836 wrote:
That may be true but the other two guys in the top three caught him in three of the last four races. You must have missed...
That may be true but the other two guys in the top three caught him in three of the last four races. You must have missed GuyB's post. Like he also said, the championship is long from over. I understand you are a big fan, but Dungey this year isn't Dungey from last year so far and you honestly can't say that he is that guy until he beats the others consistently like he has been in past years. A broken neck may slow a guy down just a touch.
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I agree to the extent that Dungey's neck injury might play a part in a bit of added conservatism in his riding again, and that reluctance...
I agree to the extent that Dungey's neck injury might play a part in a bit of added conservatism in his riding again, and that reluctance to ride to his limit has cost him in the past as well. Yeah, I'm a fan...but also a realist. The other top three guys have the knowledge & confidence that they can beat him now, and Dungey is going to either have to rise above or hand the baton to Tomac or Musquin. Never count the guy out though...he knows how to do this better than anybody currently out there.
I agree. He may just be able to do what he has been and still bring home the championship while the others fumble. It's shaping up to be interesting, but things can change in a second.
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Apparently our threads are RacerX stories now...Whistling
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Lets see, we are almost to the half way point of the season and Dungey has the red plate and a 16 point lead so I would say nothing is wrong with Dungey and its business as usual. I have no idea if he will race next year but I would because by the gossip on Vital then Kenny wont be even close to back to normal and Tomac will be on a KTM and that will take at least a year to sort out so Dungey would be the odds on favorite again next year. If I was Dungey I would sit out the nationals and come back ready to rake in another SX championship and the cash that goes with it. Cool
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Seems like we have this conversation every year. If he hasn't won every race people think there is something wrong with him. A 16 point lead by this point of the season is substantial. Consistency is his strong point. My money is on Ryan for the championship.

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I've read so many theories about Dungey and whether or not something is up with him. I've noticed a couple things as well like struggling in practice, heat races, and just doesn't appear quite as sharp at times like the last couple years.
A lot of opinions here sound plausible except for the idiots that say he has always been slow with no aggression and only wins when faster riders crash out. This series is still very much alive and it will be interesting to see how Dunge responds in the next few rounds.
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no what was in his head at the conference was that the question annoyed the living crap out of him, and he got emotional because of...
no what was in his head at the conference was that the question annoyed the living crap out of him, and he got emotional because of the bullshit around he only gets the title because Roczen isnt in the race for it .... I am willing to bet he wins next weekend and all the experts here will look as stupid as they do right now ...and if he doesnt win well then I stand humbly corrected, still not as though he is finishing mid pack like other top riders eh?
Looks like I was on the money in terms of Dungey winning this weekend ..... Smile
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Not a damn thing.
mxlegend99 2/25/2017 7:55pm
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He finally has as many wins this season as Roczen did.

He's definitely the most consistent rider around. He never gets a bad start. He rarely crashes and he is good enough to nearly always be on the podium.

But he doesn't seem to have that next level that Tomac and Roczen did. Fortunately for him he doesn't need to push to that level. He never throws away points and once he has the points lead the only way he could lose it is if his bike has a mechanical failure. But he's incredibly lucky with his machinery. Been a few years since he had an issue with it.
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mxlegend99 wrote:
He finally has as many wins this season as Roczen did. He's definitely the most consistent rider around. He never gets a bad start. He rarely...
He finally has as many wins this season as Roczen did.

He's definitely the most consistent rider around. He never gets a bad start. He rarely crashes and he is good enough to nearly always be on the podium.

But he doesn't seem to have that next level that Tomac and Roczen did. Fortunately for him he doesn't need to push to that level. He never throws away points and once he has the points lead the only way he could lose it is if his bike has a mechanical failure. But he's incredibly lucky with his machinery. Been a few years since he had an issue with it.
This is true and he has to be the boringest to watch champion in MX/SX history to do it. Super nice guy that gives a lot, but damn, but i'd rather watch paint dry....
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mxlegend99 wrote:
He finally has as many wins this season as Roczen did. He's definitely the most consistent rider around. He never gets a bad start. He rarely...
He finally has as many wins this season as Roczen did.

He's definitely the most consistent rider around. He never gets a bad start. He rarely crashes and he is good enough to nearly always be on the podium.

But he doesn't seem to have that next level that Tomac and Roczen did. Fortunately for him he doesn't need to push to that level. He never throws away points and once he has the points lead the only way he could lose it is if his bike has a mechanical failure. But he's incredibly lucky with his machinery. Been a few years since he had an issue with it.
And then again, maybe he does have that next level of speed and sees where it gets them.

Dungey is crazy like a fox.

At the end of the day, Dungey has the championship come to him. While everyone else chases the championship.
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malachi177 2/25/2017 8:10pm
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mxlegend99 wrote:
He finally has as many wins this season as Roczen did. He's definitely the most consistent rider around. He never gets a bad start. He rarely...
He finally has as many wins this season as Roczen did.

He's definitely the most consistent rider around. He never gets a bad start. He rarely crashes and he is good enough to nearly always be on the podium.

But he doesn't seem to have that next level that Tomac and Roczen did. Fortunately for him he doesn't need to push to that level. He never throws away points and once he has the points lead the only way he could lose it is if his bike has a mechanical failure. But he's incredibly lucky with his machinery. Been a few years since he had an issue with it.
RD has beat Kroc and Eli way more then they've beat him. He's caught and passed 94 and 3 more then they have him. The previous two years he's had more wins then either of them. People have short memories.
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mxlegend99 wrote:
He finally has as many wins this season as Roczen did. He's definitely the most consistent rider around. He never gets a bad start. He rarely...
He finally has as many wins this season as Roczen did.

He's definitely the most consistent rider around. He never gets a bad start. He rarely crashes and he is good enough to nearly always be on the podium.

But he doesn't seem to have that next level that Tomac and Roczen did. Fortunately for him he doesn't need to push to that level. He never throws away points and once he has the points lead the only way he could lose it is if his bike has a mechanical failure. But he's incredibly lucky with his machinery. Been a few years since he had an issue with it.
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This is true and he has to be the boringest to watch champion in MX/SX history to do it. Super nice guy that gives a lot...
This is true and he has to be the boringest to watch champion in MX/SX history to do it. Super nice guy that gives a lot, but damn, but i'd rather watch paint dry....
Wow way to show some respect to one of the best riders in the sport......

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Did you guys hear his interview after the race? He said that they made changes to the bike, so maybe there was something wrong. Dungey may rarely get bad starts and rarely make mistakes and rarely finish off the podium but there is do doubt Tomac is faster. If Tomac got the starts and didn't have bike trouble this would be a much different points story.
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machine wrote:
This is true and he has to be the boringest to watch champion in MX/SX history to do it. Super nice guy that gives a lot...
This is true and he has to be the boringest to watch champion in MX/SX history to do it. Super nice guy that gives a lot, but damn, but i'd rather watch paint dry....
Guess you'd rather watch the likes of Roczen, Tomac, and Stewart with balls out speed and nearly kill themselves with absurd wrecks in order to entertain you.
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USMCMXer 2/25/2017 8:34pm
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Here come the "consistent", "boring", or "he gets lucky" police... Maybe all you guys could just say the truth: "I don't like Ryan Dungey because he always wins and rides smart. My favorite rider cannot beat him for a title so I'll keep making excuses for him". There, I fixed your stupid comments. You're welcome. And if you're curious, ET said "Ryan straight up beat us tonight".
Great ride, champ!
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mx836 2/25/2017 8:37pm
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mxlegend99 wrote:
He finally has as many wins this season as Roczen did. He's definitely the most consistent rider around. He never gets a bad start. He rarely...
He finally has as many wins this season as Roczen did.

He's definitely the most consistent rider around. He never gets a bad start. He rarely crashes and he is good enough to nearly always be on the podium.

But he doesn't seem to have that next level that Tomac and Roczen did. Fortunately for him he doesn't need to push to that level. He never throws away points and once he has the points lead the only way he could lose it is if his bike has a mechanical failure. But he's incredibly lucky with his machinery. Been a few years since he had an issue with it.
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RD has beat Kroc and Eli way more then they've beat him. He's caught and passed 94 and 3 more then they have him. The previous...
RD has beat Kroc and Eli way more then they've beat him. He's caught and passed 94 and 3 more then they have him. The previous two years he's had more wins then either of them. People have short memories.
That was last year and cleary right now Eli is the faster guy. Just saying. Dungey could very easily cruise to the championship, but that doesn't change the fact that he was better against the same guys in past years. Things change quickly in this sport.

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