Who agrees with Anderson's DQ?

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1/22/2017 3:51am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2017 7:24am
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Two different things in play though. The promoters don't make the DQ decisions, so you can't really blame them for using the footage over and over...
Two different things in play though.

The promoters don't make the DQ decisions, so you can't really blame them for using the footage over and over, its great as a promotion.

The official makes the call on the DQ.

DQ decision I couldn't care less about, If Anderson kept his cool a decision does not have to be made, he decided to retaliate, a decision had to be made, at that point it is a 50/50 on which way it could go. His bad, no one elses.

If Anderson keeps his cool it is a non issue, he lines back up in the semi along with Marvin and he goes through to the main anyway.

Hopefully he bounces back and takes the win next weekend.

Back on the promoters, don't think they would care either way, if anything the DQ brings them even more attention. If he is not DQ'ed again the whole thing is a non issue for the most part, just a few Friese hate topics instead.

Just think, If Ken did not crash, this would be the most posted topic from tonight!
Don't get me wrong, Anderson should shut the fuck up. People in glass houses and all that shit.

BUT... It's retarded that you knock a real contender out of the title chase, basically spitting in the face of his sponsors, for a tiny transgression against a serial pest – one who will 100% get away with more shit this year, and who's sponsors are likely to feature in the press for when their manager or team member does something else dopey... Which one brings the sport into more disrepute?

And regarding who's making the decisions, well, I'd argue there is a problem there too... because one is a complete fuckup of an organisation, represented by a single dude who's rulings are hastily made, who has literally been overhead laughing at rider's misfortune from a ruling he presided over... and the other doesn't give a shit about anything but its pockets at the cost of EVERYONE else in the sport it promotes... So between the two of them, why anyone would question any ruling is probably the thing to remember. Shame on me!

Every incident – Bar Peick going Hulk Smash – and penalty should just be reviewed after the race like F1. There is too much money involved for the cowboy bullshit. End of story.
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1/22/2017 4:17am
Anderson overreacted to the move made by Friese and got exactly what he deserved with the DQ, this ain't no MMA bout and that shit can stay in the ring! The AMA now need to be consistent and DQ others who want to go down the same route.

That said, can't wait to see Anderson back out there next week with some good ole fire in his belly.
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1/22/2017 4:27am
We need all the contenders possible to make for good racing and Anderson definitely adds to the show. I like how loose and effortlessly he rides,

But,

Holy cow, start using your head for something other than a damn helmet warmer.

You can't keep having inspiring rides and then complete brain fart after passing the checkered flag.

I hope while he was taking his gear off in the hauler while the main was playing on the tv he gave a little thought to some follow through focus.

He has the speed, he works his ass off. Maybe focusing a little more would make him the real contender.
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1/22/2017 4:40am
Agree or not, he did break a rule. Silly in my eyes but it's black and white... on the other hand, I think Vince should have received the same penalty due to his mechanic shoving Anderson resulting in him crashing. Where do you draw the line of punch, bitch slapping or shove? Still putting your hands on another person...

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1/22/2017 4:43am
I do slapping someone should never be OK
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1/22/2017 4:48am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2017 4:49am
I agree, As a past Anderson fan, I have to say Friese didn't ride him all the way up the corner, there was room, Anderson should have known better and not cut down in heavy traffic. This is racing 101 people... As far as Friese's mechanic. He was protecting his rider from someone being a crybaby and swinging at his rider. This is sx , don't be crybaby superstars. Everyone on the track is racing, not just factory riders... Anderson deserved his DQ.i
It is necessary to stop this before end in big fights in the pits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mT6pkahkmlk
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1/22/2017 4:50am
Agreed with it. Anderson should've known better. You can't make exceptions because he is a title contender, that isn't fair to anyone.
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1/22/2017 4:50am
Bummed for Jason, but as the old saying goes, "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time". Jason should have just let it go.
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1/22/2017 4:56am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2017 5:08am
The fact that he got instant karma should have been factored in.
John Gallagher is the same Douche who overreacted and Black flagged Chad Reed in 2015. The clowns need to monetarily penalize someone for that type of...
John Gallagher is the same Douche who overreacted and Black flagged Chad Reed in 2015.

The clowns need to monetarily penalize someone for that type of action after the night is over. Not ruin the nights racing and take someone out of championship possibilities.

He not only hurt Ando but Husqvarna and El Hombres clothing and energy drink sponsors.

Overreactions like that seem to be the norm for Gallagher and Gallagher should be run out of town IMHO

Is he not aware that cage fighting on FS1 lead into SX ? To Disqualify a guy for a silly slap like that is downright stupid.



Right on FireFish and Colorado, what needs discipline is Vince Friese's on track antic's, take a rider poll for feedback on that one, also the mechanic pushed Ando into the wall, they both should have sat out the night if fair is fair. Yes John Gallagher your are a douchebag.

In addition, Jenny Taft reported that Jason went to the line for semi and did not know of DQ? Are you kidding me? So you humiliate Jason by removing him from the line, let's really get him pissed off. Jenny said Jason was confused and thought he was going directly to LCQ after being told of DQ on line for semi. WTF, for this severe of penalty you FACE to FACE with Rider and Team Manager, pause the night show if needed, the AMA are a bunch of clowns.
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1/22/2017 5:09am
totally agree with the DQ, Anderson makes a lot of dirty moves himself, now he is gonna cry if someone does it to him, i think it's called karma. just loved how he fell down after the punch
1/22/2017 5:25am
The fact that he got instant karma should have been factored in.
John Gallagher is the same Douche who overreacted and Black flagged Chad Reed in 2015. The clowns need to monetarily penalize someone for that type of...
John Gallagher is the same Douche who overreacted and Black flagged Chad Reed in 2015.

The clowns need to monetarily penalize someone for that type of action after the night is over. Not ruin the nights racing and take someone out of championship possibilities.

He not only hurt Ando but Husqvarna and El Hombres clothing and energy drink sponsors.

Overreactions like that seem to be the norm for Gallagher and Gallagher should be run out of town IMHO

Is he not aware that cage fighting on FS1 lead into SX ? To Disqualify a guy for a silly slap like that is downright stupid.



bushman wrote:
Right on FireFish and Colorado, what needs discipline is Vince Friese's on track antic's, take a rider poll for feedback on that one, also the mechanic...
Right on FireFish and Colorado, what needs discipline is Vince Friese's on track antic's, take a rider poll for feedback on that one, also the mechanic pushed Ando into the wall, they both should have sat out the night if fair is fair. Yes John Gallagher your are a douchebag.

In addition, Jenny Taft reported that Jason went to the line for semi and did not know of DQ? Are you kidding me? So you humiliate Jason by removing him from the line, let's really get him pissed off. Jenny said Jason was confused and thought he was going directly to LCQ after being told of DQ on line for semi. WTF, for this severe of penalty you FACE to FACE with Rider and Team Manager, pause the night show if needed, the AMA are a bunch of clowns.
Completely agree with your take and Colorados. Should have been handled way differently in my opinion.
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1/22/2017 5:27am
I agree with it.
Specially as it was right in front of the kids.
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1/22/2017 5:31am
S.Loyer wrote:
I agree with it.
Specially as it was right in front of the kids.
So were the Monster Chick's titties... no one is kicking them out
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1/22/2017 5:33am
I disagree with the DQ. The penalty should fit the crime. A pop to the helmet should deserve some punishment, but not DQ for the rest of the evening. Push him to the LCQ...impose a monetary fine...impose a time penalty afterwards....anything besides making the penalty larger than the incident.

Did Anderson mess up...yes....and he knows it. Did he deserve to have the entire night's program stopped. No! People will get upset at on-track incidents. There should be room in the rules that facilitate the penalty to fit the crime. The amount of money involved is simply too big.

You know what else? I think its totally bush that Gallagher communicated the penalty to TV before he'd even told the racer and team. Totally bush IMHO. Jenny was put in the odd position of being the one to tell Jason.

IF the decision wasn't made in a split second, with absolutely no time to think about it, then this problem probably wouldn't exist. Here's another idea....give Jason a warning when he got back to the pits that any sort of physical crap against Friese for the rest of the night will result in harsher penalty than he is already facing. To just eject him was too severe.
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1/22/2017 5:39am
I like Anderson & agree 100% with the DQ. How many people has he taken out & none of those guys reacted like that. Cole Seely was probably laughing his ass off. He has been taken out the most by him & I never seen him hit Anderson in the head. Bet Anderson learned his lesson.
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1/22/2017 5:44am
iro wrote:
Agree or not, he did break a rule. Silly in my eyes but it's black and white... on the other hand, I think Vince should have...
Agree or not, he did break a rule. Silly in my eyes but it's black and white... on the other hand, I think Vince should have received the same penalty due to his mechanic shoving Anderson resulting in him crashing. Where do you draw the line of punch, bitch slapping or shove? Still putting your hands on another person...
I agree with CRUSH, "EVERY INCIDENT barring Weston Peick frantically punching Vince Friese, should just be reviewed AFTER the race like F1. There is too much money involved for half-assed, bullshit decisions from the AMA."

bushman wrote - "....for this severe of penalty you FACE to FACE with Rider and Team Manager, pause the night show if needed, the AMA are a bunch of clowns". This is typical of the AMA.

What if video was found this morning showing Vince or his mechanic started the interaction? You cannot undo a disqualification. I bet the "Gay AMA", like Jason Lawrence calls them, didn't even fill the empty spot on the Semi Final starting line with the alternate, 41st qualifier.
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1/22/2017 5:47am
S.Loyer wrote:
I agree with it.
Specially as it was right in front of the kids.
Crush wrote:
So were the Monster Chick's titties... no one is kicking them out
It's ok, they still think they're for fodder at that age.
1/22/2017 5:48am
You have to DQ someone for that.

Let's say that one day there's another crash together with two riders and unbeknown to one rider the other is laying there with serious spinal injuries. He's angry and he kicks him... Doesn't bear thinking about. This is why you don't create an atmosphere where that type of behaviour is routine and acceptable.

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1/22/2017 5:50am
Absolutely not. Punches thrown? Absolutely DQ and/or suspend the guy. Yelling and a light slap on the helmet? No way.
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1/22/2017 6:04am
Why is it always Friese and someone else???? When are they going to do something long term about him?
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1/22/2017 6:09am Edited Date/Time 1/22/2017 6:11am
I'm not a Jason Anderson fan but I do not agree with the DQ. That was bogus.

Jason had no reason to be upset with Vince though. Vince did nothing wrong.
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1/22/2017 6:12am
Agree with the DQ, and was Anderson really a tittle threat? Maybe a threat to win a race but no way is he winning the championship. A pro rider should know better and has to control his emotions. The bullshit part was the AMA didn't even have the balls to go tell him he was DQ'd, the TV pit reporter had to!!
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1/22/2017 6:17am
I agree with dq...Anderson has made plenty of aggressive passes on people, now he"s on the other side and could not handle it. Immature move, just ride the semi, get in the main & let your results speak for themselves. Freise was racing for position, this is a RACE....
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1/22/2017 6:17am
I don't want to step on anyone's opinion on here but ,man. Now we have gone from a slap on the side of the helmet. A fact, to punches thrown and even better, heaven forbid a guy is being kicked with a serious spinal injury.
I'm ready for the pendulum to swing back, just a little. Again, Anderson was wrong. No argument with that. He slapped a guy's helmet
Not hard, while riding a motorcycle next to him. It wasn't a bitch slap or a punch or kick.
I don't know what everyone does for a living here but, nothing in life is black and white. We can't make decisions on some false premise that of we don't hammer Anderson we will loose all control.
Escalating discipline, starting with the last gate pick in the main, seems much more appropriate. Of it happens again the punishment gets more severe.


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1/22/2017 6:18am
So you think the series sponsors are thrilled with riders slapping eachother after the race on TV? In front of those 50cc kids for that matter...
So you think the series sponsors are thrilled with riders slapping eachother after the race on TV? In front of those 50cc kids for that matter.
I think the rules are pretty clear in these situations. The dq is a pretty rough penalty for that slap but it's a clear rule. If they would have let it go there would be people complaining about that too. If there was wiggle room with the rule and they would hand out different penalties in these kind of situations (albeit these don't happen that often) there would be a shitstorm everytime because people would never agree with the penalties. So yeah, I agree with the DQ.
"So you think the series sponsors are thrilled with riders slapping eachother after the race on TV? "

I bet Monster is absolutely panicking right now. I just hope they don't pull support mid-season.


1/22/2017 6:19am
Absolutely..... Anderson did this to himself.... what if Anderson's slap knocks friese over and injured his mechanic or a spectator...It is just stupid of him to address that how and where he did.
1/22/2017 6:20am
I do. Anderson finally got a taste of his own medicine, and acted like a little bitch about it. Well deserved.
1/22/2017 6:21am
I agree with it, the rules are rules and he's a professional, he should never lay hands on someone else like that. He took himself out of the championship by retaliating in such a child like manner
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1/22/2017 6:23am
c3011 wrote:
Why is it always Friese and someone else???? When are they going to do something long term about him?
It isn't always "always Friese and someone else???? " Anderson has done more than his share!

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