Will KTM produce a 2017.5 FE?

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Motofinne 11/29/2016 11:00am
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c0ncEpT wrote:
So for $2500+ your going to get an Orange frame, Exhaust, and some graphics? Hopefully there are more changes than meet the eye.
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2500+?`

The FE is always 1k more than the regular model.
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plus suspension changes (fine tuning) and traction control/launch control (is traction control allowed in AMA events?)...regardless to to whether the extra money is worth it, they...
plus suspension changes (fine tuning) and traction control/launch control (is traction control allowed in AMA events?)...regardless to to whether the extra money is worth it, they will all sell out and KTM will rub their hands in glee Smile
The traction control is already a feature on the normal 2017 KTM bikes.

It actually works! I tried it on a 350 2017 on a slippery dry track and it was noticeable!
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fast willy 11/29/2016 12:08pm
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They are on the home page. All the good details.
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grunkster 11/29/2016 12:15pm
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LAME!! thought they would for sure have the new aer cones...DID rims=yawn. What else? the "updated" valving?
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kiwifan 11/29/2016 12:26pm
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Motofinne wrote:
2500+?`

The FE is always 1k more than the regular model.
kiwifan wrote:
plus suspension changes (fine tuning) and traction control/launch control (is traction control allowed in AMA events?)...regardless to to whether the extra money is worth it, they...
plus suspension changes (fine tuning) and traction control/launch control (is traction control allowed in AMA events?)...regardless to to whether the extra money is worth it, they will all sell out and KTM will rub their hands in glee Smile
Motofinne wrote:
The traction control is already a feature on the normal 2017 KTM bikes. It actually works! I tried it on a 350 2017 on a slippery...
The traction control is already a feature on the normal 2017 KTM bikes.

It actually works! I tried it on a 350 2017 on a slippery dry track and it was noticeable!
oh well one less additional feature then lol

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kiwifan 11/29/2016 12:30pm
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grunkster wrote:
LAME!! thought they would for sure have the new aer cones...DID rims=yawn. What else? the "updated" valving?
Interesting, from all the reports I have read the 2017 KYM/Husky forks are simply amazing....er...so why the changes to the forks for the FE???
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Motofinne 11/29/2016 12:38pm
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grunkster wrote:
LAME!! thought they would for sure have the new aer cones...DID rims=yawn. What else? the "updated" valving?
kiwifan wrote:
Interesting, from all the reports I have read the 2017 KYM/Husky forks are simply amazing....er...so why the changes to the forks for the FE???
Maybe they have found even better settings? Or worse like the Yamaha 250?

But the WP AER48 forks are constantly getting updated. This is already the 3rd version with small adjustments.
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grunkster wrote:
LAME!! thought they would for sure have the new aer cones...DID rims=yawn. What else? the "updated" valving?
What you are getting is worth $1,000.00. It would cost more to buy all those parts and paint the frame.

At least people with 2017's can be happy that the bike will not be changed much for 2018.
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kiwifan 11/29/2016 2:30pm
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Motofinne wrote:
Maybe they have found even better settings? Or worse like the Yamaha 250? But the WP AER48 forks are constantly getting updated. This is already the...
Maybe they have found even better settings? Or worse like the Yamaha 250?

But the WP AER48 forks are constantly getting updated. This is already the 3rd version with small adjustments.
thanks, yes true, they could be worse than the 2017 non FE units...unlikely maybe but good point.
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GPrider 11/29/2016 3:11pm
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mx836 wrote:
http://www.vitalmx.com/photos/features/First-Look-2017-KTM-Factory-Edition-250-SX-F-450-SX-F,38995/2017-KTM-450-SX-F-FACTORY-EDITION,96555/ML512,13480

And here they are. A stocker with pre-selected aftermarket parts for those who all want their bikes to look alike.
little late to the party...
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JRT812 11/29/2016 4:03pm
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Personally, I think they're worth the price and really look great for a stock bike the public has the option to buy
maxximmee 11/29/2016 6:19pm
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Looks sweet, wish I could try one of those KTM some day, those 250 FE look great with the blue seat and FMF pipe.

Where I live we have only Yamaha and Honda (and sometimes a Kawi). Standard (non-FE) KTM 250 are over 15k usd and Yamaha/Honda only 7k usd, also there are no KTM parts available so it's a no brainer.

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ML512 11/29/2016 6:36pm
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grunkster wrote:
LAME!! thought they would for sure have the new aer cones...DID rims=yawn. What else? the "updated" valving?
The price jump for AER Cone Valves on a stock bike would be greater...
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bents 11/29/2016 7:42pm
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How can anyone knock KTM for this strategy? As opposed to say, Suzuki......yawn. KTM is kicking japan's ass on a yearly basis at this point in mx, off road, and in 2 stroke development. They dominate professional racing in almost every form and will enter MotoGP next year. I think the FE concept is cool and keeps their development cutting edge EVERY year, not every FOUR years. Or in Suzuki's case, every decade or so, give or take a few years.
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nickkraze 11/29/2016 7:46pm
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I don't understand why people have such a problem with this. This is no different than Arctic Cat releasing a Tucker Hibbert edition sled every year with a few extra bells and whistles. People buy them up like crazy. I don't see the problem. You're penalizing KTM for producing a product people wanna buy.
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kiwifan 11/29/2016 9:19pm
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bents wrote:
How can anyone knock KTM for this strategy? As opposed to say, Suzuki......yawn. KTM is kicking japan's ass on a yearly basis at this point in...
How can anyone knock KTM for this strategy? As opposed to say, Suzuki......yawn. KTM is kicking japan's ass on a yearly basis at this point in mx, off road, and in 2 stroke development. They dominate professional racing in almost every form and will enter MotoGP next year. I think the FE concept is cool and keeps their development cutting edge EVERY year, not every FOUR years. Or in Suzuki's case, every decade or so, give or take a few years.
I dont think anyone is knocking them for doing it, clearly it benefits the consumers who can afford them

Thing is all of the 450's are good (regardless of Suzukis lack of development)...and the Japanese bikes still win, so what incentive is there for the Japanese to do the same thing? KTM started doing this because their KTM 4 strokes at the time was way behind the Japanese bikes, so that greatly benefitted the race teams especially basically having next years bikes for the current year.

I think KTM will stop this FE models soon especially as they are starting to build a lot more other bikes/models, therefore tying up their production factories. It is a good money spinner for them though.
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HenryA 11/29/2016 11:56pm
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Big question is, will they hit the dealers before the 2017 Honda?
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Turbojez 11/30/2016 12:41am
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HenryA wrote:
Big question is, will they hit the dealers before the 2017 Honda?
There's another one: Is it better than 2017 CRF?

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fordo-197 11/30/2016 3:53am
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kiwifan wrote:
I dont think anyone is knocking them for doing it, clearly it benefits the consumers who can afford them Thing is all of the 450's are...
I dont think anyone is knocking them for doing it, clearly it benefits the consumers who can afford them

Thing is all of the 450's are good (regardless of Suzukis lack of development)...and the Japanese bikes still win, so what incentive is there for the Japanese to do the same thing? KTM started doing this because their KTM 4 strokes at the time was way behind the Japanese bikes, so that greatly benefitted the race teams especially basically having next years bikes for the current year.

I think KTM will stop this FE models soon especially as they are starting to build a lot more other bikes/models, therefore tying up their production factories. It is a good money spinner for them though.
The incentive for the Japanese brands is the fact that ktm and husky bikes are flying out the door and there market share is shrinking year on year. In the U.K. There is next to no difference price wise.
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Indy mxer 11/30/2016 3:53am
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I think they're pretty cool and I love the orange frame. No doubt they'll sell out. I give them credit for building them. Hell, as long as people keep buying them. Why not?

But there's no way I'd spend that much on a 450! Over 10K is insane imo. Plus, a lot riders would have the suspension done as well.

For me. I have 2016 Kawi 450 I bought new on a good deal. Had FC do my suspension, Added an FMF Slip on and number of other nice parts and still don't have near that much money in it.



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Fearo 11/30/2016 6:12am
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HenryA wrote:
Big question is, will they hit the dealers before the 2017 Honda?
Turbojez wrote:
There's another one: Is it better than 2017 CRF?
Well it's 10 pounds lighter, so there's a start Wink .
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ML512 11/30/2016 7:18am
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Fearo wrote:
Well it's 10 pounds lighter, so there's a start Wink .
11 on my scale...
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PRM31 11/30/2016 7:35am
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Seems a bit understated for an FE version. Almost a BNG edition compared to previous FEs. Is there anything about this years FE that enables the factory team to do anything differently than if it had not been released?
fordo-197 11/30/2016 7:40am
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ML512 wrote:
11 on my scale...
How long till the shootout drops?
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Superdave19 11/30/2016 7:54am
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ML512 wrote:
11 on my scale...
fordo-197 wrote:
How long till the shootout drops?
+1
rocketsocks26 11/30/2016 8:09am
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people that think the new crf is better than the ktm are gonna be alittle disappointed , no worries use will read about them soon enough
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ML512 11/30/2016 8:12am
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PRM31 wrote:
Seems a bit understated for an FE version. Almost a BNG edition compared to previous FEs. Is there anything about this years FE that enables the...
Seems a bit understated for an FE version. Almost a BNG edition compared to previous FEs. Is there anything about this years FE that enables the factory team to do anything differently than if it had not been released?
Nope, nothing for the team this year or last actually. They're really useful about every three years right now...
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Lots of cocaine...
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PRM31 11/30/2016 8:58am
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PRM31 wrote:
Seems a bit understated for an FE version. Almost a BNG edition compared to previous FEs. Is there anything about this years FE that enables the...
Seems a bit understated for an FE version. Almost a BNG edition compared to previous FEs. Is there anything about this years FE that enables the factory team to do anything differently than if it had not been released?
ML512 wrote:
Nope, nothing for the team this year or last actually. They're really useful about every three years right now...
Thanks. It's apparently a good financial move for them or they wouldn't be continuing to produce this model. Either that or they feel the bikes send a valuable marketing message. Either way, it's good for the consumer!
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Motofinne 11/30/2016 9:09am
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PRM31 wrote:
Seems a bit understated for an FE version. Almost a BNG edition compared to previous FEs. Is there anything about this years FE that enables the...
Seems a bit understated for an FE version. Almost a BNG edition compared to previous FEs. Is there anything about this years FE that enables the factory team to do anything differently than if it had not been released?
ML512 wrote:
Nope, nothing for the team this year or last actually. They're really useful about every three years right now...
I guess that we will see big updates with the 2018 FE model next year? At least that would make sense if we look at the update scheme KTM has?

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