Motorcycle superstore suzuki

10/26/2016 11:41am Edited Date/Time 10/26/2016 11:42am
BobPA wrote:
If a company is not seeing a sufficient ROI, why would they continue so invest? Some of you need to understand business 101 before you want...
If a company is not seeing a sufficient ROI, why would they continue so invest? Some of you need to understand business 101 before you want to hang the CEO.
Sure, and it sounds like the consumers here were purchasing from MCSS in support of the Albertson team. They can move on, too. It's all just business.
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10/26/2016 12:57pm
Really disappointed when I saw this. The whole Albertson crew is awesome. Great people to talk to and for sure a hard working bunch. I will...
Really disappointed when I saw this. The whole Albertson crew is awesome. Great people to talk to and for sure a hard working bunch. I will not purchase from Motorcycle Superstore again after the way this went. I think this year they had the best looking bikes in the pits. I loved them.







Did you wear your pants and boots to the race as well? (Entire pick up kit)
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10/26/2016 12:57pm
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Jimmy was offered to be factory team but would have had to leave Merge which he wasn't willing to do so in turn Super Store left...
Jimmy was offered to be factory team but would have had to leave Merge which he wasn't willing to do so in turn Super Store left and look for them to be sponsor of RCH Suz.
Lol
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10/26/2016 1:11pm
newmann wrote:
Starting a company and employing 3 riders and 8 staff members isn't a real job?


With income being generated by what?
Advertising money. No different than any other team or websites like the one we are on.

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10/26/2016 1:37pm Edited Date/Time 10/26/2016 1:39pm
IMO, it was a great looking set up for JA and his team. Even though it was a first year team, everything looked great and seemed very professional. However, yes having another semi in the pits is great and all but I can see why MSS would leave if they are receiving race results not on par with what they put in for money. Now, I have no idea what the investment was but I would be more than pissed if I was MSS and JA's team rode like donkeys all year.

JA is a great personality and he's fortunate to be married to a hot chick but that IMO is about all he has going for him. Perfect scenario of what Matthes said about Blose in regards to SX. He's not going to win, so even though it's his passion (racing), maybe he should hang it up as a racer. Even dropping to the 250's doesn't help this guy. I know this sounds like I'm shitting all over him but he is a great guy and valuable as a personality. Maybe he should stick to spending Merge's money as being a team owner or getting into tv like his wife.
10/26/2016 2:47pm
Too bad things didnt work out. By far best looking bikes
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10/26/2016 3:24pm
Conkey wrote:
IMO, it was a great looking set up for JA and his team. Even though it was a first year team, everything looked great and seemed...
IMO, it was a great looking set up for JA and his team. Even though it was a first year team, everything looked great and seemed very professional. However, yes having another semi in the pits is great and all but I can see why MSS would leave if they are receiving race results not on par with what they put in for money. Now, I have no idea what the investment was but I would be more than pissed if I was MSS and JA's team rode like donkeys all year.

JA is a great personality and he's fortunate to be married to a hot chick but that IMO is about all he has going for him. Perfect scenario of what Matthes said about Blose in regards to SX. He's not going to win, so even though it's his passion (racing), maybe he should hang it up as a racer. Even dropping to the 250's doesn't help this guy. I know this sounds like I'm shitting all over him but he is a great guy and valuable as a personality. Maybe he should stick to spending Merge's money as being a team owner or getting into tv like his wife.
It's really hard to agree with this. If he can put it into the night show and make main events then good for him. To say just because he can't win he should hang it up is pretty lame. There's really only a handful of guys in each class who can actually win. The rest of them should just hang it up and do something else? As a fan of the sport this kind of outlook is not good for it.
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10/26/2016 3:37pm
That sucks! It also sucks you guys can't use 24MX store, thats my shop to go to.
10/26/2016 3:43pm
Conkey wrote:
IMO, it was a great looking set up for JA and his team. Even though it was a first year team, everything looked great and seemed...
IMO, it was a great looking set up for JA and his team. Even though it was a first year team, everything looked great and seemed very professional. However, yes having another semi in the pits is great and all but I can see why MSS would leave if they are receiving race results not on par with what they put in for money. Now, I have no idea what the investment was but I would be more than pissed if I was MSS and JA's team rode like donkeys all year.

JA is a great personality and he's fortunate to be married to a hot chick but that IMO is about all he has going for him. Perfect scenario of what Matthes said about Blose in regards to SX. He's not going to win, so even though it's his passion (racing), maybe he should hang it up as a racer. Even dropping to the 250's doesn't help this guy. I know this sounds like I'm shitting all over him but he is a great guy and valuable as a personality. Maybe he should stick to spending Merge's money as being a team owner or getting into tv like his wife.
so what your saying if you cant win, you shouldnt race? By that logic we would all be watching a 5 man race in each series.

more money and support needs to be put into 10-40 guys...so this sport can secure a future, cause by the looks of it, the privateer is going to be going down and soon after that the small teams without a drink sponsor will be next.

10/26/2016 3:46pm
MXMattii wrote:
That sucks! It also sucks you guys can't use 24MX store, thats my shop to go to.
We have lots of great consumer options to choose from, so I can see why the American customer may make our purchasing decisions on terms like race support.
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10/26/2016 3:56pm
Conkey wrote:
IMO, it was a great looking set up for JA and his team. Even though it was a first year team, everything looked great and seemed...
IMO, it was a great looking set up for JA and his team. Even though it was a first year team, everything looked great and seemed very professional. However, yes having another semi in the pits is great and all but I can see why MSS would leave if they are receiving race results not on par with what they put in for money. Now, I have no idea what the investment was but I would be more than pissed if I was MSS and JA's team rode like donkeys all year.

JA is a great personality and he's fortunate to be married to a hot chick but that IMO is about all he has going for him. Perfect scenario of what Matthes said about Blose in regards to SX. He's not going to win, so even though it's his passion (racing), maybe he should hang it up as a racer. Even dropping to the 250's doesn't help this guy. I know this sounds like I'm shitting all over him but he is a great guy and valuable as a personality. Maybe he should stick to spending Merge's money as being a team owner or getting into tv like his wife.
What podium rider or top five 250 rider would ride for a first year team for 20k a year?...that's the budget we work with from sponsors. Jimmy was a owner first and a rider second. Do you think he wanted to ride 250s? Hell no. It was a business decision to help grow the team as a 250 effort. I think we were lucky to have him as a rider because it brought more fan traffic by the rig than any other rider. He has more of a fan follwoing than 80 percent of the lites riders out there. We ran activation at the races and did product and how to videos as well. There is lots of first year expenses and going into the second year and third year we had plans on grabbing a top tier racer for better results. We were under no illusion of our results. Our sponsors were aware of our budget and what was obtainable rider and results wise...(so I thought) we worked hard on what we could control on our budget........Professionalism, appearance, marketing, infrastructure and genuine intreaction with fans. I would challenge anybody else to accomplish what we did on the budget we had.(less title money than blue buffalo yamaha). There is no hard feelings just disappointment. We will have an effort at some level next year.
10/26/2016 4:05pm
Nobody makes money racing dirtbikes. The volume of sales an online parts store needs to generate to fund those teams probably isn't sustainable.

RMATVMC race gas program for local races probably generates more money tenfold over what they would pull sendin a semi and hiring an entire team.
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10/26/2016 4:15pm
Whats with all these outro deals lately?
First it's Deano, now Albertson.
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10/26/2016 5:03pm
mxwrench66 wrote:
What podium rider or top five 250 rider would ride for a first year team for 20k a year?...that's the budget we work with from sponsors...
What podium rider or top five 250 rider would ride for a first year team for 20k a year?...that's the budget we work with from sponsors. Jimmy was a owner first and a rider second. Do you think he wanted to ride 250s? Hell no. It was a business decision to help grow the team as a 250 effort. I think we were lucky to have him as a rider because it brought more fan traffic by the rig than any other rider. He has more of a fan follwoing than 80 percent of the lites riders out there. We ran activation at the races and did product and how to videos as well. There is lots of first year expenses and going into the second year and third year we had plans on grabbing a top tier racer for better results. We were under no illusion of our results. Our sponsors were aware of our budget and what was obtainable rider and results wise...(so I thought) we worked hard on what we could control on our budget........Professionalism, appearance, marketing, infrastructure and genuine intreaction with fans. I would challenge anybody else to accomplish what we did on the budget we had.(less title money than blue buffalo yamaha). There is no hard feelings just disappointment. We will have an effort at some level next year.
thanks for your level-headed response and insight here. These threads usually have a bunch of people arguing without any real facts or perspective from someone in the know.

lots of Monday morning QB donkey's in here that think they know how everything should be done. Lots of moving parts behind the scenes and you guys not only put up a good effort last year, but you're handling the current aftermath professionally as well.

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MXMattii wrote:
That sucks! It also sucks you guys can't use 24MX store, thats my shop to go to.
Is the pricing on 24mx reasonable in Belgium?
It's the most expensive online store in Poland. They charge like 30-50% more than any other store which is ridiculous.
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What podium rider or top five 250 rider would ride for a first year team for 20k a year?...that's the budget we work with from sponsors...
What podium rider or top five 250 rider would ride for a first year team for 20k a year?...that's the budget we work with from sponsors. Jimmy was a owner first and a rider second. Do you think he wanted to ride 250s? Hell no. It was a business decision to help grow the team as a 250 effort. I think we were lucky to have him as a rider because it brought more fan traffic by the rig than any other rider. He has more of a fan follwoing than 80 percent of the lites riders out there. We ran activation at the races and did product and how to videos as well. There is lots of first year expenses and going into the second year and third year we had plans on grabbing a top tier racer for better results. We were under no illusion of our results. Our sponsors were aware of our budget and what was obtainable rider and results wise...(so I thought) we worked hard on what we could control on our budget........Professionalism, appearance, marketing, infrastructure and genuine intreaction with fans. I would challenge anybody else to accomplish what we did on the budget we had.(less title money than blue buffalo yamaha). There is no hard feelings just disappointment. We will have an effort at some level next year.
Thank you for your response, I wish you all the best for 2017, fingers crossed you'll be back out there!
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10/27/2016 4:08am
Conkey wrote:
IMO, it was a great looking set up for JA and his team. Even though it was a first year team, everything looked great and seemed...
IMO, it was a great looking set up for JA and his team. Even though it was a first year team, everything looked great and seemed very professional. However, yes having another semi in the pits is great and all but I can see why MSS would leave if they are receiving race results not on par with what they put in for money. Now, I have no idea what the investment was but I would be more than pissed if I was MSS and JA's team rode like donkeys all year.

JA is a great personality and he's fortunate to be married to a hot chick but that IMO is about all he has going for him. Perfect scenario of what Matthes said about Blose in regards to SX. He's not going to win, so even though it's his passion (racing), maybe he should hang it up as a racer. Even dropping to the 250's doesn't help this guy. I know this sounds like I'm shitting all over him but he is a great guy and valuable as a personality. Maybe he should stick to spending Merge's money as being a team owner or getting into tv like his wife.
mxwrench66 wrote:
What podium rider or top five 250 rider would ride for a first year team for 20k a year?...that's the budget we work with from sponsors...
What podium rider or top five 250 rider would ride for a first year team for 20k a year?...that's the budget we work with from sponsors. Jimmy was a owner first and a rider second. Do you think he wanted to ride 250s? Hell no. It was a business decision to help grow the team as a 250 effort. I think we were lucky to have him as a rider because it brought more fan traffic by the rig than any other rider. He has more of a fan follwoing than 80 percent of the lites riders out there. We ran activation at the races and did product and how to videos as well. There is lots of first year expenses and going into the second year and third year we had plans on grabbing a top tier racer for better results. We were under no illusion of our results. Our sponsors were aware of our budget and what was obtainable rider and results wise...(so I thought) we worked hard on what we could control on our budget........Professionalism, appearance, marketing, infrastructure and genuine intreaction with fans. I would challenge anybody else to accomplish what we did on the budget we had.(less title money than blue buffalo yamaha). There is no hard feelings just disappointment. We will have an effort at some level next year.
Did you guy's sell the semi then ? hope to see you out there next year.
10/27/2016 6:49am
Really disappointed when I saw this. The whole Albertson crew is awesome. Great people to talk to and for sure a hard working bunch. I will...
Really disappointed when I saw this. The whole Albertson crew is awesome. Great people to talk to and for sure a hard working bunch. I will not purchase from Motorcycle Superstore again after the way this went. I think this year they had the best looking bikes in the pits. I loved them.







oshow wrote:
Did you wear your pants and boots to the race as well? (Entire pick up kit)
Haha no. That whole night my buddies were bustin my chops because I wore a matching hat and jersey. But a few years ago at Indy SX some guy wore his full get up. Thor PC Monster Kawasaki gear. Boots all the way up to his helmet. He had that on walking around in the pits giving hi-fives to younger kids. Thought it was really funny when he had to bum a smoke off somebody through the fence lol
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10/27/2016 8:08am Edited Date/Time 10/27/2016 8:26am
web mx wrote:
Did you guy's sell the semi then ? hope to see you out there next year.
Jimmy put the deal together for the rig with his relationships within the industry. He ran the full SX/MX schedule (29 races) on what some teams probably spent getting their semi and setting it up to race, let alone employing 9 other people in the industry fulfilling their passion.

The deal was struck mid November 2015 with MCSS. It was a three year deal from the beginning with both parties. Each party knew it was a longer term investment in this industry, and that the first year would be a building process toward year two and three. So with less than two months prior to Anaheim to hire riders, mechanics, get bikes shipped from Suzuki, testing, putting together race and practice bikes, signing other sponsors, aftermarket parts, a rig and driver, graphics, housing for the team on the west coast, arranging all the logistics....the list goes on. Keep in mind also that Suzuki’s had not been raced by any major teams for years, so they would be starting from scratch with the bikes, whereas with other brands there were many shops building competitive motors and chassis for years at the top level of the sport. These teams can run 18:1 compression (just the tip of the iceberg) since they tear down their motors most every race. Their FedEx bill is more than most people make at their jobs in a year. Making the bike competitive ( with reliability) with these major teams with gigantic budgets is not an easy task, and it took a good portion of the year to get completely dialed in.

People are talking about results: You start a team in November knowing that between Pro Circuit, Geico, Star, TLD and Rockstar Husky that 20 top riders have been signed and practicing for months already. The MCSS Suzuki team was putting riders in the main every week, and doing a fantastic job with their pit presence. There were races when Baggett and Stewart were both out and their semi did not even attend the races. A strong pit presence is important for a manufacture if you have ever been to a Supercross. The team achieved that goal above and beyond anybody's expectation for a first year team. Anybody remember the "Blue Angels" bike schemes at San Diego. Of course you do. I might be biased, but I think the team had the best looking bike in the pits.

Jimmy is grateful for the year with MCSS, but in the end they failed on their commitment. The hardest work had been done and the goal being offered the "factory support" Suzuki team had been achieved. To go into the relationship with Suzuki as the factory supported effort without a title sponsor this late in the game would be a huge risk. It is an 18 hour a day job...7 days a week running a team...let alone training and riding. Jimmy has high standards and knows what it takes to run a team properly, and he proved it. Ask Cunningham or Osby, and anybody who has worked for Jimmy. I can say this....there is nobody that could have put together an effort of this caliber on the budget Jimmy had to work with. I would guess he will do it again someday in the future.....when he can do it right.

Jimmy will continue to work with all the other team sponsors (click on "sponsors") for 2017 , as he truly treasures those relationships, many of which are long term. American Suzuki has been "over the top" with their support, and he is truly excited to continue that relationship, as he feels he has found a “home” to finish out his racing career(no time soon). He loves the Suzuki RMZ450, and yes, you will see him at Anaheim back in the premier class.

Sincerely,
A big “Top Jimmy” fan
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10/27/2016 8:26am
it sucks that it didn't work out, it's just a monumental task to try and do a race team and not lose your ass.

I have no idea what the Sponsor did or did not do but people vowing to boycott them surely would not help entice future sponsors.

I personally do not see how any of the non-factory Teams make it, it's just an endless money pit with no real way to make an income.
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Crush wrote:
That really sux... Bummed for Jimmy and their entire crew. They had such a good look, it's crazy to me that MS backed out.
GregDVT wrote:
I won't be making purchases from them after the way they handled this.
Back to Chaparral!
I guess you forgot what Chapparal did to the Supercross.com team with Andrew Short Wink
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Really disappointed when I saw this. The whole Albertson crew is awesome. Great people to talk to and for sure a hard working bunch. I will...
Really disappointed when I saw this. The whole Albertson crew is awesome. Great people to talk to and for sure a hard working bunch. I will not purchase from Motorcycle Superstore again after the way this went. I think this year they had the best looking bikes in the pits. I loved them.







oshow wrote:
Did you wear your pants and boots to the race as well? (Entire pick up kit)
Haha no. That whole night my buddies were bustin my chops because I wore a matching hat and jersey. But a few years ago at Indy...
Haha no. That whole night my buddies were bustin my chops because I wore a matching hat and jersey. But a few years ago at Indy SX some guy wore his full get up. Thor PC Monster Kawasaki gear. Boots all the way up to his helmet. He had that on walking around in the pits giving hi-fives to younger kids. Thought it was really funny when he had to bum a smoke off somebody through the fence lol
Me and my girlfriend saw that guy at the mall that Saturday before we headed to the stadium. He was just walking around holding his helmet. You could tell he was wanting somebody to come up and talk to him. Kinda funny and sad at the same time lol
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10/27/2016 8:41am
They had a great looking team hauler and great looking bikes. Things change. We shouldn't hate the sponsor, be thankful for what they did in 2016.
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10/27/2016 8:45am
etccb wrote:
They had a great looking team hauler and great looking bikes. Things change. We shouldn't hate the sponsor, be thankful for what they did in 2016.
I don't think people would care had it originally been a 1 year deal. Unfortunately a contract was signed for 3 years, no matter what industry you are in, breaking contracts looks bad if it is simply because you changed your mind.
10/27/2016 9:01am
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Did you wear your pants and boots to the race as well? (Entire pick up kit)
Haha no. That whole night my buddies were bustin my chops because I wore a matching hat and jersey. But a few years ago at Indy...
Haha no. That whole night my buddies were bustin my chops because I wore a matching hat and jersey. But a few years ago at Indy SX some guy wore his full get up. Thor PC Monster Kawasaki gear. Boots all the way up to his helmet. He had that on walking around in the pits giving hi-fives to younger kids. Thought it was really funny when he had to bum a smoke off somebody through the fence lol
DYE wrote:
Me and my girlfriend saw that guy at the mall that Saturday before we headed to the stadium. He was just walking around holding his helmet...
Me and my girlfriend saw that guy at the mall that Saturday before we headed to the stadium. He was just walking around holding his helmet. You could tell he was wanting somebody to come up and talk to him. Kinda funny and sad at the same time lol
Lol agreed. I'm happy someone else seen this guy. Somewhere there was pictures of him floating around on Instagram but I wasn't able to find any
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10/27/2016 9:21am
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it sucks that it didn't work out, it's just a monumental task to try and do a race team and not lose your ass. I have...
it sucks that it didn't work out, it's just a monumental task to try and do a race team and not lose your ass.

I have no idea what the Sponsor did or did not do but people vowing to boycott them surely would not help entice future sponsors.

I personally do not see how any of the non-factory Teams make it, it's just an endless money pit with no real way to make an income.
Boycott is a strong word. I only heard praise in regards towards the one year effort from MCSS. I think it is great that enthusiasts want to spend their money with companies truly making an investment into the sport.

Rome was built in a year and neither was Pro Circuit, TLD or BTO(now Rocky Mountain) teams. These are all profitable teams, but the initial investment over time had to be made.
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10/27/2016 11:42am
Both sides supposedly had an opt out in the contract. Jimmy's team did great but superstore has had serious problems since it's relocation. Numerous layoffs, fired the Dallas call center, and a few more challenges. Their focus needs to be on their core business and perhaps not a race team. New president not a dirt fan so writing was on the wall for the team.
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10/27/2016 1:13pm
This outfit is/was one of, if not THE best looking.

I loved the old school Yellow and Blue zooks like above.

Clean setup. Shame.
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10/27/2016 2:35pm
Jimmy seems like such a nice guy. But this is 3 teams in 3 years he's started and had go south? The first team continued without him the following year to be fair.
10/27/2016 3:32pm
Thanks for the actuals from a couple of guys in the know. Always admired Jimmy's determination, professionalism and out of the box PR thinking as a privateer to keep it all on the road.

Anybody who makes a go of it should be applauded and any sponsors that thought they could offer more but in the end just couldn't afford to save for going bankrupt, shouldn't be crucified also. Would you consider putting up a lot of your own money to help start a team knowing the bad reaction that may come your way if things don't pan out? Stay supportive of the companies that have. In the end, it's all just bidness

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