Courtney Duncan post of her crash

Edited Date/Time 5/19/2016 7:40am
I don't really know if this has been posted but anyways it's real bad to happen that way Sad

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brimx153
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5/9/2016 11:59am
She is inside the track markers tho . Feel sorry for her .But think it is nt all the photographers fault either
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5/9/2016 12:00pm
"she clipped the arm of a female Italian photographer who was standing ridiculously close to the track marker pegs. Duncan tumbled down the hill before rejoining the race in pain to be classified 12th"
5/9/2016 12:03pm
brimx153 wrote:
She is inside the track markers tho . Feel sorry for her .But think it is nt all the photographers fault either
the photographer is right next to the landing zone, and standing right next to the wheel marks of other riders, she has some responsibility for the crash,

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5/9/2016 12:04pm
Very professional website that mx-pure is. Caption of one of the pictures:

": X marks the spot where the dumb bitch with a photo vest was standing"
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5/9/2016 12:09pm Edited Date/Time 5/9/2016 12:10pm
mtl wrote:
Very professional website that mx-pure is. Caption of one of the pictures: ": X marks the spot where the dumb bitch with a photo vest was...
Very professional website that mx-pure is. Caption of one of the pictures:

": X marks the spot where the dumb bitch with a photo vest was standing"
I rather thought the article was spot on in its assessment.

Edit: One thing they could have done better is to show a photograph of "said bitch" with her name for all to see.

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5/9/2016 12:11pm Edited Date/Time 5/9/2016 12:13pm
mtl wrote:
Very professional website that mx-pure is. Caption of one of the pictures: ": X marks the spot where the dumb bitch with a photo vest was...
Very professional website that mx-pure is. Caption of one of the pictures:

": X marks the spot where the dumb bitch with a photo vest was standing"
To elaboarate further on the subject;


"The problem of females let loose on the track was emphasised yet further during the same race when a trio of overweight, presumably German, mid-20s bitches with no visible accreditation at all, but who had clearly accompanied one of the WMX competitors to the start area, were wandering, totally oblivious to the danger, across the track whilst racing was in progress with no intervention from security staff."
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5/9/2016 12:12pm
brimx153 wrote:
She is inside the track markers tho . Feel sorry for her .But think it is nt all the photographers fault either
scott_nz wrote:
the photographer is right next to the landing zone, and standing right next to the wheel marks of other riders, she has some responsibility for the...
the photographer is right next to the landing zone, and standing right next to the wheel marks of other riders, she has some responsibility for the crash,
Thats my point Yes she does have some (prob) most of the responsibility for the crash . But so does Courtney . the Pic of AC222 he would be no were near the photographer . so i think is a 80% responsibility for the photographer and 20% for Courtney . ie the rules are you stay inside the track marker s . Just the photographer should be experinced enough to know nobody does
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5/9/2016 12:16pm

I didnt know JS7's photograph had a tranny surgery ! Kidding but sadden for Duncan, hoping this injury is not too severe for her whole career. Probably a rookie mistake, very unfortunate.
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5/9/2016 1:37pm
brimx153 wrote:
She is inside the track markers tho . Feel sorry for her .But think it is nt all the photographers fault either
It is her fault. If she was standing there for photographing scrub photo's for example, from up close she would've noticed that Courtney came straight towards her. But she stands there to take some pictures from the landscape, or to take some pictures from action a few corners away from her.

If you work at motosport events you need to think, 'what can go wrong if I put myself here'. I think someone like GuyB can confirmed that.
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5/9/2016 4:55pm
Definitely the girl with the camera's fault. This is the problem when you let people who don't understand the sport on the track to take photographs. I've seen some photographers stand in just the worst spots completely oblivious to the danger for both them and any riders. It really is frightening at times
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5/9/2016 5:47pm Edited Date/Time 5/9/2016 5:49pm
I'm gutted for Duncan. While it may be a bit premature to imply that she had the championship in a hypothetical bag (with not even half of the championship completed) it was evident that she was the fastest up until this point and odds were obviously greatly in her favor in regards of winning the championship. I hope she has a speedy recovery and carries on with her winning ways shortly. Things that come to my mind through this though:

The two pics are clearly taken from different vantage points and with different zoom levels, so it is pretty much impossible to evaluate how close to the track the photographer was (or how far outside the track markers Duncan was). Are there any other pictures or video footage of the incident? I mean I know that the linked website points out the supposed position of the photographer, but somehow (for some reason) the article feels a little biased and unprofessional. This brings me to the second thought:

Why does every neck-beard have to seize the moment to write misogynistic crap? I don't really see how the gender of the photographer is of any importance (in the same way that I doubt most reasonable people would feel that the skin color of the same was of any importance). If anything, isn't saying those things (that the gender somehow comes embedded with a level of stupidity) also offensive to Duncan and her fellow competitors?

With that said, I agree with the notion that you can not let people who do not know what they are doing wander around on the in-field. This is for both their own sake and everyone elses.
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5/9/2016 6:17pm
brimx153 wrote:
She is inside the track markers tho . Feel sorry for her .But think it is nt all the photographers fault either
MXMattii wrote:
It is her fault. If she was standing there for photographing scrub photo's for example, from up close she would've noticed that Courtney came straight towards...
It is her fault. If she was standing there for photographing scrub photo's for example, from up close she would've noticed that Courtney came straight towards her. But she stands there to take some pictures from the landscape, or to take some pictures from action a few corners away from her.

If you work at motosport events you need to think, 'what can go wrong if I put myself here'. I think someone like GuyB can confirmed that.
i agree with that . but i do feel you cant compare them two picture s as if ,look its 100% the photographer s fault . If she jumped where AC222 was she would be 2 to 3 feet away . As i said the photographer should know riders cut the makers . But then you can look at it like its in the rule s not to cut the course .
5/9/2016 8:23pm Edited Date/Time 5/9/2016 8:26pm
It's not clear if her wheels are outside of the marker, only that she is leaning outside of the marker. Plus the other rider would be a lapper and prob pushed Duncan farther inside than she wanted to go. Definitely a bad spot for the photog. Even Dig Dug wouldn't stand that close and he has a helmet.
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5/9/2016 8:40pm
This would cause a shit storm here in the USA maybe something a person might think but never say or write.

crashed out by an errant dumb bitch photographer , German, mid-20s bitches
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5/10/2016 12:02am Edited Date/Time 5/10/2016 9:18am
500guy wrote:
This would cause a shit storm here in the USA maybe something a person might think but never say or write. crashed out by an errant...
This would cause a shit storm here in the USA maybe something a person might think but never say or write.

crashed out by an errant dumb bitch photographer , German, mid-20s bitches
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Robgvx wrote:
jamma10 wrote:
Blink

The "photographer" was definitely at fault, but wow...
JackLHyde wrote:
Yeah, that was the worst piece of "journalism" I've read in a while. Very unprofessional.
Wtf did i just read?!

What is mx-pure.com? That was the first and last time i clicked on that site.
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5/10/2016 1:56am
Gutted for Courtney but not as much as the author haha. Take that you stupid Squirrel!
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5/10/2016 1:57am
GuyB what are your thoughts?
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5/10/2016 2:30am Edited Date/Time 5/10/2016 11:30am
Well, Alex Hodgkinson certainly looks to have a bit of a severe case of misogyny on his part. Seriously, you'd hope he'd regret a few parts of his article.

Crucify the photog? - absolfuckinglutely . An idiot maneuver by any stretch of the imagination. Photographers have to show some commonsense, and, know the risks they take on their own part, but, even more so, the risks they can take on the riders part. And, they have no right to put riders at risk, track markers or no track markers. They should know that at any moment, something can go wrong, and a rider / riders can go spearing off the track.. And, in this case, the thing that went wrong, looks like the photographers truly foolish positioning. It's not Nascar / some other sports, with big catch fencing / screens that provide a form of barrier.

With his tirade, it cancels out to an extent, his valid points about inexperienced (or just plain idiotic) photographers being allowed access, just because of who they are assigned by. Heck, Hodgkinson could find himself in deep shit for identifying her as YS's Travel Agents 'pet' photographer - Luongo might just give him grief over his temerity,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

But, fuck the photographer - I may be an uncaring bastard - well, I do care for Courtney / Riders in general - but it looks like an act of utter idiocy on her part, that has led to injuries, that require an operation(s) to a rider. In that, I'd say, being all un-PC, she certainly was a stupid bitch.

Was that the same jump that Van Horebeek crashed on? You saw a photographer, well away from where the photographer this is all about was standing, have to move bloody quickly to avoid being part of the carnage.
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5/10/2016 2:34am
No, Van Horebeek got blew away by the wind on the finishjump, that's the opposite side of the track.
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5/10/2016 2:36am
It was the finish line jump Van Horebeek crashed, among others. It was a pretty windy day I guess.
The jump Duncan went down is the tunnel jump on the vendors side.
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5/10/2016 2:38am Edited Date/Time 5/10/2016 2:39am
look at the size of the lens on the camera , what the hell is she doing on track ? proof again there is no cure for stupid there is no reason what so ever for her to be standing were she is . she has ruined Courtney's season and taken money from her pocket because the chick taking a photo is a moron that has no idea , she should be never let on a circuit again
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look at the size of the lens on the camera , what the hell is she doing on track ? proof again there is no cure...
look at the size of the lens on the camera , what the hell is she doing on track ? proof again there is no cure for stupid there is no reason what so ever for her to be standing were she is . she has ruined Courtney's season and taken money from her pocket because the chick taking a photo is a moron that has no idea , she should be never let on a circuit again
To be fair a LOT of people would never be let on a track again if you want to go that principle. I love this sport, but cannot think of a similar one where more stupid people have a meeting each weekend. This goes for riders, teams, spectators, ...
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JackLHyde wrote:
It was the finish line jump Van Horebeek crashed, among others. It was a pretty windy day I guess. The jump Duncan went down is the...
It was the finish line jump Van Horebeek crashed, among others. It was a pretty windy day I guess.
The jump Duncan went down is the tunnel jump on the vendors side.
Thanks, you, and De Stouwer. I've yet to catch up with all of the GP's races.

That prang of Van Horebeek's, at least shows a photographer that had his brain in gear, and was aware of his surroundings - Courtney's 'bane', showed complete ignorance. And, that ignorance, lead to the injury of a rider.
5/10/2016 3:00am
JackLHyde wrote:
It was the finish line jump Van Horebeek crashed, among others. It was a pretty windy day I guess. The jump Duncan went down is the...
It was the finish line jump Van Horebeek crashed, among others. It was a pretty windy day I guess.
The jump Duncan went down is the tunnel jump on the vendors side.
on the Van Horebeek case

You can only blame the organiser/promotor for the crash. They should haved changed the track/jump so the riders would not be blown away by the wind.
5/10/2016 3:04am
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look at the size of the lens on the camera , what the hell is she doing on track ? proof again there is no cure...
look at the size of the lens on the camera , what the hell is she doing on track ? proof again there is no cure for stupid there is no reason what so ever for her to be standing were she is . she has ruined Courtney's season and taken money from her pocket because the chick taking a photo is a moron that has no idea , she should be never let on a circuit again
this is the most elite series in the world. A lot off people just work for free in order to get accreditation.
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5/10/2016 3:05am Edited Date/Time 5/10/2016 3:07am
I am all about being a gentlemen and treating women with respect.

In Alex's case however I will give him a pass as maybe he was rattled from the incident. Alex is a photographer and has been doing this longer than some of you have been alive. The expression "doesn't suffer fools gladly" also applies here.

Undoubtedly Alex could have chosen better words. IMHO the human being holding the camera is an idiot for being that close.

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