Kenny to Honda ?

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h&m_cycle 4/16/2016 10:19am
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RG1 wrote:
Have you been living under a rock for the past 3 months?
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Not everyone looks at Vital everyday. I know when I'm traveling a ton I miss a lot on here.
You mean you have a life & don't know or care who Donk is or Roczen's mechanics middle name?

How dare you...
Sr_Vet_Rider 4/16/2016 11:59am
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tek14 wrote:
So RCH goes Factory supported Honda and Kenny stays there?
ML512 wrote:
No... Kenny goes to HRC and RCH stays on Suzukis with Jeremy Martin coming aboard.
Wink 2 out of 3 correct. Wink
Kx125rider 4/16/2016 5:17pm
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Roczen to TM?
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tek14 wrote:
So RCH goes Factory supported Honda and Kenny stays there?
ML512 wrote:
No... Kenny goes to HRC and RCH stays on Suzukis with Jeremy Martin coming aboard.
Kenny goes to HRC...RCH goes blue with Jeremy Martin, Broc Tickle & Jake Weimer onboard.

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Canerat 4/16/2016 7:26pm
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Meanwhile at Kawasaki........they sent a blank cheque to Villopotto...

Any other news?
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Canerat wrote:
Meanwhile at Kawasaki........they sent a blank cheque to Villopotto...

Any other news?
yeah, that tomac guy is just to slow. don't know what kawasaki was thinking. Dizzy
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51xc wrote:
yeah, that tomac guy is just to slow. don't know what kawasaki was thinking. Dizzy
ouch, look even if ET has stayed on Honda then he would be performing as he is now after those shoulder injuries.

I think hes just cruising around to protect re-injuring the shoulders and will breathe fire when outdoors start.
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ouch, look even if ET has stayed on Honda then he would be performing as he is now after those shoulder injuries. I think hes just...
ouch, look even if ET has stayed on Honda then he would be performing as he is now after those shoulder injuries.

I think hes just cruising around to protect re-injuring the shoulders and will breathe fire when outdoors start.
What? Cruising around, are you serious? He tries as hard as he can to finally get a win in supercross. He doesnt even count the win in daytona, because he wants to win on a real supercross track, thats what he recently said.
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Motofinne 4/17/2016 1:13am
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Yeah Tomac is certainly not cruising around. It will be very interesting to see if the bike setup will fit him better on a motocross tracks. Because this SX season has been horrible for him and the team.
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mxjon454 4/17/2016 1:25am
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I think roczen will do very good on the honda. If he had the chance to stay at rch and chose not to then obviously he feels that honda is the right way to go. A rider of roczens caliper should be on a full factory team and not rch IMO. Not a knock on rch but it seems like he had issues with them and them not being able to change what he felt was needed when he needed it.
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mxjon454 4/17/2016 1:27am
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Hopefully jeremy martin improves in sx on a 450 or we might be seeing another baggett. I think jeremy will do well on a 450 outdoors but he should be dominant in sx like webb is. Martins going to have his hamds full with webb outdoors this year, its going to be fun to watch. I think webb will come out on top.
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mxjon454 wrote:
I think roczen will do very good on the honda. If he had the chance to stay at rch and chose not to then obviously he...
I think roczen will do very good on the honda. If he had the chance to stay at rch and chose not to then obviously he feels that honda is the right way to go. A rider of roczens caliper should be on a full factory team and not rch IMO. Not a knock on rch but it seems like he had issues with them and them not being able to change what he felt was needed when he needed it.
Seems like we have heard several factory riders not having options that they want. I know the air forks have been a major argument throughout the paddocks from seemingly every team but ktm.
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Crush 4/17/2016 2:07am
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I wonder what Kenny is chasing in the bike... I doubt he's being underpaid at RCH and he sounds like he is happy right now...

He left KTM because of the suspension right?

Then spent outdoors last year trying to get it to work (Though IMO he never looked quite as good on the Suzuki outdoors as he did the KTM, indoors opposite)...

It's just not like like the Honda is "The Bike" that you hear the other pros talk about...
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51xc 4/17/2016 2:07am
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51xc wrote:
yeah, that tomac guy is just to slow. don't know what kawasaki was thinking. Dizzy
kiwifan wrote:
ouch, look even if ET has stayed on Honda then he would be performing as he is now after those shoulder injuries. I think hes just...
ouch, look even if ET has stayed on Honda then he would be performing as he is now after those shoulder injuries.

I think hes just cruising around to protect re-injuring the shoulders and will breathe fire when outdoors start.
i was being sarcastic.
tomac is an animal and I expect him to do well. his dad said in this weeks podcast that they are still chasing a indoor setup for eli. i do expect a different tomac for mx (for the better) but we all should not expect him to replicate last years pace i think. why? because he probably can't answer the question himself how he managed to be that ridiculously fast. if he can be 90% of last years version, he still will be fighting for wins.
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51xc 4/17/2016 2:20am
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Crush wrote:
I wonder what Kenny is chasing in the bike... I doubt he's being underpaid at RCH and he sounds like he is happy right now... He...
I wonder what Kenny is chasing in the bike... I doubt he's being underpaid at RCH and he sounds like he is happy right now...

He left KTM because of the suspension right?

Then spent outdoors last year trying to get it to work (Though IMO he never looked quite as good on the Suzuki outdoors as he did the KTM, indoors opposite)...

It's just not like like the Honda is "The Bike" that you hear the other pros talk about...
well, ken often complained that the crew at ktm was way to serious and uptight when he, the racer, being the one with the positive attitude. also he didn't like the flex of the steel frame. but mostly he probably didn't like being no.2.

and let's face it, those suzukies are the least innovative bikes out there and with suzuki postponing a new bike for another year, one can get the impression that everyone is on newer bikes and one has always a disadvantage over the next guy. even tho they have all those factory resources and trick parts. it's more of a mental thing i guess.
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davistld01 4/17/2016 6:14am
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mxjon454 wrote:
I think roczen will do very good on the honda. If he had the chance to stay at rch and chose not to then obviously he...
I think roczen will do very good on the honda. If he had the chance to stay at rch and chose not to then obviously he feels that honda is the right way to go. A rider of roczens caliper should be on a full factory team and not rch IMO. Not a knock on rch but it seems like he had issues with them and them not being able to change what he felt was needed when he needed it.
Caliper: braking component that holds brake pads

Caliber: a ranking of excellence, skil, etc.
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davistld01 wrote:
Caliper: braking component that holds brake pads

Caliber: a ranking of excellence, skil, etc.
Well done sir.


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mxjon454 wrote:
I think roczen will do very good on the honda. If he had the chance to stay at rch and chose not to then obviously he...
I think roczen will do very good on the honda. If he had the chance to stay at rch and chose not to then obviously he feels that honda is the right way to go. A rider of roczens caliper should be on a full factory team and not rch IMO. Not a knock on rch but it seems like he had issues with them and them not being able to change what he felt was needed when he needed it.
davistld01 wrote:
Caliper: braking component that holds brake pads

Caliber: a ranking of excellence, skil, etc.
Ooh, ooh... Let me get in on some of this...

*Caliper- A caliper is a device used to measure the distance between two opposite sides of an object. A caliper can be as simple as a compass with inward or outward-facing points.

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I always find it interesting to see the riders outside of the races. Yesterday after the race we saw Eli and his parents eating sushi at a local restaurant. Not much communication going on, but to see the tight knit family is nice to see. He will be fine in due time.
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Crush wrote:
I wonder what Kenny is chasing in the bike... I doubt he's being underpaid at RCH and he sounds like he is happy right now... He...
I wonder what Kenny is chasing in the bike... I doubt he's being underpaid at RCH and he sounds like he is happy right now...

He left KTM because of the suspension right?

Then spent outdoors last year trying to get it to work (Though IMO he never looked quite as good on the Suzuki outdoors as he did the KTM, indoors opposite)...

It's just not like like the Honda is "The Bike" that you hear the other pros talk about...
Maybe they (RCH) didn't want to give him the reported 5 year deal he wanted.
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You don't switch to Honda to win titles. At least not in the last 20 years. Zero pride with that company at the pro racing level. It's almost like they like to lose.
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mxjon454 4/17/2016 10:52am
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mxjon454 wrote:
I think roczen will do very good on the honda. If he had the chance to stay at rch and chose not to then obviously he...
I think roczen will do very good on the honda. If he had the chance to stay at rch and chose not to then obviously he feels that honda is the right way to go. A rider of roczens caliper should be on a full factory team and not rch IMO. Not a knock on rch but it seems like he had issues with them and them not being able to change what he felt was needed when he needed it.
davistld01 wrote:
Caliper: braking component that holds brake pads

Caliber: a ranking of excellence, skil, etc.
My bad on the spelling error. I stand corrected lol
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mxjon454 wrote:
I think roczen will do very good on the honda. If he had the chance to stay at rch and chose not to then obviously he...
I think roczen will do very good on the honda. If he had the chance to stay at rch and chose not to then obviously he feels that honda is the right way to go. A rider of roczens caliper should be on a full factory team and not rch IMO. Not a knock on rch but it seems like he had issues with them and them not being able to change what he felt was needed when he needed it.
davistld01 wrote:
Caliper: braking component that holds brake pads

Caliber: a ranking of excellence, skil, etc.
mxjon454 wrote:
My bad on the spelling error. I stand corrected lol
Playing with ya, man! Smile
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mxjon454 4/17/2016 11:01am
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mxjon454 wrote:
I think roczen will do very good on the honda. If he had the chance to stay at rch and chose not to then obviously he...
I think roczen will do very good on the honda. If he had the chance to stay at rch and chose not to then obviously he feels that honda is the right way to go. A rider of roczens caliper should be on a full factory team and not rch IMO. Not a knock on rch but it seems like he had issues with them and them not being able to change what he felt was needed when he needed it.
IWreckALot wrote:
Seems like we have heard several factory riders not having options that they want. I know the air forks have been a major argument throughout the...
Seems like we have heard several factory riders not having options that they want. I know the air forks have been a major argument throughout the paddocks from seemingly every team but ktm.
That is true, but if the rumors are true that the new hondas are going to have spring forks maybe that will give him more options? And i know his red bull deal limits his choices so maybe it was between rch and honda and he feels honda is the best route for him.
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mxjon454 4/17/2016 11:03am
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davistld01 wrote:
Caliper: braking component that holds brake pads

Caliber: a ranking of excellence, skil, etc.
mxjon454 wrote:
My bad on the spelling error. I stand corrected lol
davistld01 wrote:
Playing with ya, man! Smile
I know brotha, i read it and was thinking damn theyre putting me on blast haha
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kiwifan 4/17/2016 12:52pm
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ouch, look even if ET has stayed on Honda then he would be performing as he is now after those shoulder injuries. I think hes just...
ouch, look even if ET has stayed on Honda then he would be performing as he is now after those shoulder injuries.

I think hes just cruising around to protect re-injuring the shoulders and will breathe fire when outdoors start.
matze wrote:
What? Cruising around, are you serious? He tries as hard as he can to finally get a win in supercross. He doesnt even count the win...
What? Cruising around, are you serious? He tries as hard as he can to finally get a win in supercross. He doesnt even count the win in daytona, because he wants to win on a real supercross track, thats what he recently said.
cruising = not taking big risks shesshs try not to take my words too much out of context....
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kiwifan 4/17/2016 12:55pm
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bob567 wrote:
You don't switch to Honda to win titles. At least not in the last 20 years. Zero pride with that company at the pro racing level...
You don't switch to Honda to win titles. At least not in the last 20 years. Zero pride with that company at the pro racing level. It's almost like they like to lose.
ah I call your post rubbish... I think HRC involvement in the last couple of season contradict that, they want their glory back and the factory Hondas are not bad bikes by any means
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bob567 wrote:
You don't switch to Honda to win titles. At least not in the last 20 years. Zero pride with that company at the pro racing level...
You don't switch to Honda to win titles. At least not in the last 20 years. Zero pride with that company at the pro racing level. It's almost like they like to lose.
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ah I call your post rubbish... I think HRC involvement in the last couple of season contradict that, they want their glory back and the factory...
ah I call your post rubbish... I think HRC involvement in the last couple of season contradict that, they want their glory back and the factory Hondas are not bad bikes by any means
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Ghost of Jabroni 4/17/2016 3:24pm
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I'm getting info that I think is BOGUS that #94 is headed to Honda. Anyone else hear this rumour ? I think is locked in till...
I'm getting info that I think is BOGUS that #94 is headed to Honda. Anyone else hear this rumour ? I think is locked in till 17 ,,,
Yes. Contract already signed.
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mxjon454 wrote:
I think roczen will do very good on the honda. If he had the chance to stay at rch and chose not to then obviously he...
I think roczen will do very good on the honda. If he had the chance to stay at rch and chose not to then obviously he feels that honda is the right way to go. A rider of roczens caliper should be on a full factory team and not rch IMO. Not a knock on rch but it seems like he had issues with them and them not being able to change what he felt was needed when he needed it.
RCH made the changes he want. He went thru different suspension setups until driving everyone crazy.

"options" was not the problem at RCH.

It's simply not a winning environment compared to a real Factory team.

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