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You can't really say " ban this , but not this " because everything affects people differently. Drunks?....hell yes , get them off the track. Or anyone else that might be getting any kind of a high off of what they are using.
And I only speak about my own personal experience. And the friends that I know , that smoke and ride....I trust them out on the track with me more than anyone else I " don't know ".
Christ , this may sound weird , but I wish some dudes would smoke a little before they ride , so they wouldn't ride all sketched out and take others out in the process.
And I would prefer to base my opinion on the only study I was able to find that didn't have an obvious confirmation bias and other confounding factors such as age and sex of those reported in the study. When you pick a sample group of individuals who do not smoke or use marijuana/THC, give them some high quality medical grade weed, then stick them in a video game driving simulator... You are probably going to get exactly what you thought you would, which is a much worse driver than normal. Also when doing a survey of likelihood of accident frequencies based on drug and alcohol use you need to take into account the additional factors that increase the chance of accidents such as age, gender and additional drug and alcohol use. That is just bad science... Those studies don't mean much to me except that you can create a study to prove just about anything if you are set out to prove it. I also wouldn't trust a study if NORML came out with a study that said being high made you a better driver...
I tend to trust the gov't when they are out to prove how dangerous driving potheads are, and their study shows the exact opposite. When reading some of the conclusions in the study I could almost see a guy in a white lab coat pouting when he had to type out the results.
Finally I am not condoning driving or riding while high. I consider it the same as people taking cold medicine, benedryl or their prescriptions while driving which I also don't condone. It is no where near on the level of drinking and driving however yet people always try to compare it to that. And of course, it will effect everyone differently.
Pit Row
How sad.
Vital needs one thing to make it a truly great community, and it is this:
Less personal attacks and insults. More open minded and light hearted discussion.
Give it 5 minutes and they will tell you
Surprising how intolerant "tolerant" people are when you simply want to not be around a certain behavior at a specific time.
I also don't have a problem with smokers, drinkers, religious zealots or vegans. But there are certain activities I don't want to participate in if they are there. For example, I don't typically invite my vegan friends to a BBQ or my heavy drinking friends to a 20 mile bicycle ride but it doesn't make me judge them as a person or think they are living a life that is worthless. It only points to my preferred participation and preferred company in specific activities. The same goes for my fast MTB friends, they never invite me to the 15 mile hard rides b/c I can't keep up so they don't enjoy me being around and I cause a safety issue if they have to keep stopping and holding up the trail to wait for me. Same reason I don't get on the track during the A rider practice session. My lack of reaction time and skill present to them a safety issue.
There is nothing wrong with not wanting to be around me on the track if you feel my performance causes things to be unsafe. Put me in the C class where I belong. Likewise there is nothing wrong with anyone else not wanting to be around a pot smoker or drinker on the track if they feel it is unsafe. AAMOF if you feel it is so safe then make sure you tell everyone you smoked or drank just before you go out and let the others decide if they want to be out there with you. Let them have the choice. If there are enough smokers and drinkers that ride maybe we can get another class... of course, I would then have to say I smoke so I can sandbag into that class
Ivan
Being that the only way for me to really be able to get up and participate is to partake I will continue to do so without any real care wtf you guys think. I know me and my functioning ability so I will worry about me. You guys should worry about your fuckin selves (which ever side you stand) and quit telling others who's right or wrong.
So when you see me at your local track you'll have no idea if I'm high or not, just as you wouldn't when we hung out and watched the race. You will have no idea if I suck because I'm high or I just suck (I just suck) when you see me ride and that is how I will continue to live my life and will do so with my head held high and my children knowing 100% of how I live..
Judge: So you had smoked marijuana before the accident?
Stoner: Yes sir. I smoke every day and all the research shows that if I smoke every day I am a safe driver, adjusted for my age and gender of course. I am not like one of those weekend users that can't handle their pot.
Judge: Can you prove you smoke every day?
stoner: Ah, no sir, I just kind of do it whenever.
Judge: Well, if you can't prove you smoke every day I have to find you guilty of DUI. Next Case.
All you asshats that are all high and mighty (pun intended) put others at risk everyday. You look at your cell phone while driving, you cut people off, you speed etc. so once you stop putting myself and children at risk I'll stop doing what I'm doing and sell my bike because I will never go back to popping pills so I can deal with the pain enough to be active.. So with that I'm done with this conversation.
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