Chase format coming 2017!

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2/24/2016 8:39am
Add the chase format and add additional special season bonuses and payout into the mix. It made AX way exciting last year down to the final...
Add the chase format and add additional special season bonuses and payout into the mix. It made AX way exciting last year down to the final main event. A SX playoff sounds awesome.
I'm fine with it making the AX series more competitive because it is a lower series.

Supercross is the most prestigious series in dirt bike racing and they are screwing it up.
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2/24/2016 8:39am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2016 8:40am
My understanding is the "chase" is like "playoffs". Also if I'm correct in NASCAR once they enter the chase, just like football and basketball and such in the playoffs, it's not the entire field that started the season, just the top players. if you don't make the chase you sit home and watch. Just like if your team doesn't make the playoffs its over early for them.

So if SX is adapting this "playoff/chase" type deal at the end of the season, is it only going to be the top few guys? No privateers/local hero's involved?


Is this the final nail in the coffin for the grass roots connections to this sport? No non-factory or non-factory support team guy will ever make the chase. Will make for great racing and de-clutter the tracks with lappers and people rolling stuff and in the way late in the mains but I do worry about the sport no longer being accessible to the regular guy.
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2/24/2016 8:40am
Maybe it's April 1st in Canada.
Sadly no, we share the same Calendar as you.
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2/24/2016 8:43am
Add the chase format and add additional special season bonuses and payout into the mix. It made AX way exciting last year down to the final...
Add the chase format and add additional special season bonuses and payout into the mix. It made AX way exciting last year down to the final main event. A SX playoff sounds awesome.
Be careful Matt, use the word "playoff" and you too will feel the wrath of traditionalists.

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2/24/2016 8:44am
Could someone please let Tomac know the Chase format doesn't start until NEXT year! Thx.
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2/24/2016 8:54am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2016 9:00am
NV825 wrote:
Awesome! About time something was changed. To everyone complaining, the chase is essentially a playoff. Do you complain when a team in football, basketball, baseball, etc...
Awesome! About time something was changed.

To everyone complaining, the chase is essentially a playoff. Do you complain when a team in football, basketball, baseball, etc. with the best regular season record gets knocked out in the playoffs? Put the work in to get in the playoffs, and then it's game on for the championship.
How are you comparing a stick and ball sports to SX? They need playoffs because the best teams can go an entire year without playing each other. Last time I checked if you wanted to win in SX you could not avoid Dungey the whole time and try and sneak into the playoffs.... Some change is needed sure. But this is a gimmick plain and simple a gimmick where a DNF could ruin your season.
2/24/2016 9:28am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2016 9:34am
DonM wrote:
Maybe I'm wrong, but in Arenacross doesn't the leader at the beginning of the chase get like 15pts and then 2nd has like 12 and so...
Maybe I'm wrong, but in Arenacross doesn't the leader at the beginning of the chase get like 15pts and then 2nd has like 12 and so forth on down? It's not a complete reset to everyone having zero pts is it??
I guess we will see, but if the chase worked so well in motorsports why has NASCAR modified theirs multiple times since they started the chase format??
Not sure what I think about this yet....I guess it will change the saying that "you can't win the championship at A1 but you can lose it" to " you can't win the championship at A1 but you can't lose it either"......
Lipstick on a pig is still a pig. They keep changing it because the lipstick keeps wearing off and they have to make changes to make everyone forget that it's a pig. Add a wig (more make it), then some fake eye lashes (the winners who don't qualify), maybe some toe nail polish (increase the # who make it) and before you know it the top 40 are qualifying for the chase! Grinning

It worked the first couple of years. Their downfall was how strong they try and market an individual driver to the fans. You favorite driver doesn't make it? Well then who cares. He can't win it, so I'm not excited anymore. Interest started to wain because they realized everyone out of the top 10 had fans also. Add more people to drum up interest and give fans of other drivers hope. Wains again? More drivers = more fans keeping interest! It's an inherently flawed system with the only outcome being... keep adding people. If it was such a tremendous idea they would still exclude everyone outside of the top 10. They don't because they're losing butts in seats and viewership ratings on TV until they make changes to include more people. Basic psychology really. You keep interest only as long as you have hope. When hope disappears, you quit caring.

I bet almost every person in this board dreamed of having land, a private track and a killer shop when they were young. The hope was strong. But at some point reality set in and most of us realized that's not fiscally possible and the hope faded. Some made it a reality (fans with drivers in the top 10 as a comparison) but everyone else moves on. The difference between that dream and racing? Racing starts over again in a few months. Hope can be renewed.
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2/24/2016 9:28am
NV825 wrote:
Awesome! About time something was changed. To everyone complaining, the chase is essentially a playoff. Do you complain when a team in football, basketball, baseball, etc...
Awesome! About time something was changed.

To everyone complaining, the chase is essentially a playoff. Do you complain when a team in football, basketball, baseball, etc. with the best regular season record gets knocked out in the playoffs? Put the work in to get in the playoffs, and then it's game on for the championship.
Park Boys wrote:
How are you comparing a stick and ball sports to SX? They need playoffs because the best teams can go an entire year without playing each...
How are you comparing a stick and ball sports to SX? They need playoffs because the best teams can go an entire year without playing each other. Last time I checked if you wanted to win in SX you could not avoid Dungey the whole time and try and sneak into the playoffs.... Some change is needed sure. But this is a gimmick plain and simple a gimmick where a DNF could ruin your season.
ESSENTIALLY

We are unique as the racers do face each other throughout the season every night. NASCAR racers face each other at basically every event. The PGA Tour created their version of "playoffs" with the FedEx Cup, and they also face each other at basically every event.

If we step out of the paradigm that "playoffs" can only be in sports where they never face each other every week, and see that "playoffs" can give our sport a shot of excitement at the end of a series. You see incredible things happen in playoffs where the favorite doesn't win because another guy got hot at the right time. Two years ago in the FedEx Cup, Rory McIlroy won two prior majors in golf and was the favorite for the title, but Billy Horschel got hot at the right time and claimed the cup and $10M prize money.

You and many others can see it as a gimmick, I see it as a way to progress the series. Many others have said AX was exciting as hell, NASCAR has been exciting as hell, why not try it out and see if it creates new energy to our sport. We can always go back if it fails.
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MR. X wrote:
I guess it's a big no no to be dominant in your career or hobby. I'm gonna have a hard time teaching my son that as...
I guess it's a big no no to be dominant in your career or hobby. I'm gonna have a hard time teaching my son that as he gets older. " now son, do a good job but not too good or you'll upset people"
What union is he joining?
2/24/2016 9:48am
NV825 wrote:
Awesome! About time something was changed. To everyone complaining, the chase is essentially a playoff. Do you complain when a team in football, basketball, baseball, etc...
Awesome! About time something was changed.

To everyone complaining, the chase is essentially a playoff. Do you complain when a team in football, basketball, baseball, etc. with the best regular season record gets knocked out in the playoffs? Put the work in to get in the playoffs, and then it's game on for the championship.
Park Boys wrote:
How are you comparing a stick and ball sports to SX? They need playoffs because the best teams can go an entire year without playing each...
How are you comparing a stick and ball sports to SX? They need playoffs because the best teams can go an entire year without playing each other. Last time I checked if you wanted to win in SX you could not avoid Dungey the whole time and try and sneak into the playoffs.... Some change is needed sure. But this is a gimmick plain and simple a gimmick where a DNF could ruin your season.
NV825 wrote:
[b]ESSENTIALLY[/b] We are unique as the racers do face each other throughout the season every night. NASCAR racers face each other at basically every event. The...
ESSENTIALLY

We are unique as the racers do face each other throughout the season every night. NASCAR racers face each other at basically every event. The PGA Tour created their version of "playoffs" with the FedEx Cup, and they also face each other at basically every event.

If we step out of the paradigm that "playoffs" can only be in sports where they never face each other every week, and see that "playoffs" can give our sport a shot of excitement at the end of a series. You see incredible things happen in playoffs where the favorite doesn't win because another guy got hot at the right time. Two years ago in the FedEx Cup, Rory McIlroy won two prior majors in golf and was the favorite for the title, but Billy Horschel got hot at the right time and claimed the cup and $10M prize money.

You and many others can see it as a gimmick, I see it as a way to progress the series. Many others have said AX was exciting as hell, NASCAR has been exciting as hell, why not try it out and see if it creates new energy to our sport. We can always go back if it fails.
I just want to point out that you and I as well many others agree changes are needed if a more competitive series is desired. Which hopefully results in better attendance, growth, and more money. For those asking why do we need growth, it's simple growth equals money which has been a problem in this sport for years. While I don't agree with you on certain points or that this is the solution, I'm not trying to offend, argue or fight. I'm just trying to have an open dialogue to find the best possible solution. The fact is I agree changes can help and probably should be made. I'm all for them, I'm just not sure this is it, or if it is, we are there yet. All other sports mentioned got to this point by progressing and trying and implementing other smaller changes first that evolved to this as an end result. We seem to be jumping to the end without trying any other possible solutions, so the infrastructure for this system will not be as complete and our evolution will be incomplete. To me this does little to change the fact that the fast 1-3 are still going to be the fast 1-3 and will win, so this change seems arbitrary rather than substantive that will lead to long term progress. But again that just my opinion of this change should it happen, I'm all ears for other change ideas...
2/24/2016 10:01am
after the split run a privateer cup?
that way you still have a full gate. still have a points requirement to qualify for it.

2/24/2016 10:02am
NV825 wrote:
[b]ESSENTIALLY[/b] We are unique as the racers do face each other throughout the season every night. NASCAR racers face each other at basically every event. The...
ESSENTIALLY

We are unique as the racers do face each other throughout the season every night. NASCAR racers face each other at basically every event. The PGA Tour created their version of "playoffs" with the FedEx Cup, and they also face each other at basically every event.

If we step out of the paradigm that "playoffs" can only be in sports where they never face each other every week, and see that "playoffs" can give our sport a shot of excitement at the end of a series. You see incredible things happen in playoffs where the favorite doesn't win because another guy got hot at the right time. Two years ago in the FedEx Cup, Rory McIlroy won two prior majors in golf and was the favorite for the title, but Billy Horschel got hot at the right time and claimed the cup and $10M prize money.

You and many others can see it as a gimmick, I see it as a way to progress the series. Many others have said AX was exciting as hell, NASCAR has been exciting as hell, why not try it out and see if it creates new energy to our sport. We can always go back if it fails.
...and I still don't watch golf. It's not the format. It's the medium in which a game/sport takes place and whether or not a person can find interest in it. I've tried golf and I know it's hard. But playoffs don't make it any more enjoyable to watch in my eyes.

This doesn't draw new fans, it just creates a divide between the one's who are already here. No one is rushing to their nearest AX for the first time because they heard through the grapevine about suitcases or the chase format.
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DPR250R wrote:
What union is he joining?
Haha,exactly.
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2/24/2016 10:12am
Maybe a champion crowned for mains ,one for heat races ,one for semi's and one for lcq's
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2/24/2016 10:14am
MR. X wrote:
I guess it's a big no no to be dominant in your career or hobby. I'm gonna have a hard time teaching my son that as...
I guess it's a big no no to be dominant in your career or hobby. I'm gonna have a hard time teaching my son that as he gets older. " now son, do a good job but not too good or you'll upset people"
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2/24/2016 10:26am
any series where the guy with the most points doesnt win it total BS.

I have had this type of shit before, qualifying only counting for the first race.. all sucks
2/24/2016 10:31am
NV825 wrote:
[b]ESSENTIALLY[/b] We are unique as the racers do face each other throughout the season every night. NASCAR racers face each other at basically every event. The...
ESSENTIALLY

We are unique as the racers do face each other throughout the season every night. NASCAR racers face each other at basically every event. The PGA Tour created their version of "playoffs" with the FedEx Cup, and they also face each other at basically every event.

If we step out of the paradigm that "playoffs" can only be in sports where they never face each other every week, and see that "playoffs" can give our sport a shot of excitement at the end of a series. You see incredible things happen in playoffs where the favorite doesn't win because another guy got hot at the right time. Two years ago in the FedEx Cup, Rory McIlroy won two prior majors in golf and was the favorite for the title, but Billy Horschel got hot at the right time and claimed the cup and $10M prize money.

You and many others can see it as a gimmick, I see it as a way to progress the series. Many others have said AX was exciting as hell, NASCAR has been exciting as hell, why not try it out and see if it creates new energy to our sport. We can always go back if it fails.
...and I still don't watch golf. It's not the format. It's the medium in which a game/sport takes place and whether or not a person can...
...and I still don't watch golf. It's not the format. It's the medium in which a game/sport takes place and whether or not a person can find interest in it. I've tried golf and I know it's hard. But playoffs don't make it any more enjoyable to watch in my eyes.

This doesn't draw new fans, it just creates a divide between the one's who are already here. No one is rushing to their nearest AX for the first time because they heard through the grapevine about suitcases or the chase format.
I think the golf example isn't as good or relevant to our sport, as mainstream and most fans care about the majors. The Fed Ex cup (their playoff) seems to be followed more by the core fans, rather than the casual fan that follows the majors. And still more emphasis is put on majors. Fed Ex cup only engaged the already engaged core fans by and large. Which I thought was the opposite of what this sport was trying to achieve. I could be wrong though.
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2/24/2016 10:37am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2016 10:38am
I've asked this before, but I'll ask again. How does a reset work in Supercross?

In nascar and golf it's an elimination format. Top 30 in golf and top 11 in nascar I think.

Does that mean the last 6-8 races will have top ten rider only gates?
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2/24/2016 10:40am
Park Boys wrote:
How are you comparing a stick and ball sports to SX? They need playoffs because the best teams can go an entire year without playing each...
How are you comparing a stick and ball sports to SX? They need playoffs because the best teams can go an entire year without playing each other. Last time I checked if you wanted to win in SX you could not avoid Dungey the whole time and try and sneak into the playoffs.... Some change is needed sure. But this is a gimmick plain and simple a gimmick where a DNF could ruin your season.
NV825 wrote:
[b]ESSENTIALLY[/b] We are unique as the racers do face each other throughout the season every night. NASCAR racers face each other at basically every event. The...
ESSENTIALLY

We are unique as the racers do face each other throughout the season every night. NASCAR racers face each other at basically every event. The PGA Tour created their version of "playoffs" with the FedEx Cup, and they also face each other at basically every event.

If we step out of the paradigm that "playoffs" can only be in sports where they never face each other every week, and see that "playoffs" can give our sport a shot of excitement at the end of a series. You see incredible things happen in playoffs where the favorite doesn't win because another guy got hot at the right time. Two years ago in the FedEx Cup, Rory McIlroy won two prior majors in golf and was the favorite for the title, but Billy Horschel got hot at the right time and claimed the cup and $10M prize money.

You and many others can see it as a gimmick, I see it as a way to progress the series. Many others have said AX was exciting as hell, NASCAR has been exciting as hell, why not try it out and see if it creates new energy to our sport. We can always go back if it fails.
I just want to point out that you and I as well many others agree changes are needed if a more competitive series is desired. Which...
I just want to point out that you and I as well many others agree changes are needed if a more competitive series is desired. Which hopefully results in better attendance, growth, and more money. For those asking why do we need growth, it's simple growth equals money which has been a problem in this sport for years. While I don't agree with you on certain points or that this is the solution, I'm not trying to offend, argue or fight. I'm just trying to have an open dialogue to find the best possible solution. The fact is I agree changes can help and probably should be made. I'm all for them, I'm just not sure this is it, or if it is, we are there yet. All other sports mentioned got to this point by progressing and trying and implementing other smaller changes first that evolved to this as an end result. We seem to be jumping to the end without trying any other possible solutions, so the infrastructure for this system will not be as complete and our evolution will be incomplete. To me this does little to change the fact that the fast 1-3 are still going to be the fast 1-3 and will win, so this change seems arbitrary rather than substantive that will lead to long term progress. But again that just my opinion of this change should it happen, I'm all ears for other change ideas...
At this point it's all hearsay on the chase format, and we don't know any of the specifics should it become a reality. Smaller changes like different main formats, qualifying/holeshot/heat points, etc. could be the best thing to try first. All we can do now is wait and see what the specifics to the changes are, and see if it creates more excitement. If not, then back to the drawing board.
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2/24/2016 10:44am
NV825 wrote:
[b]ESSENTIALLY[/b] We are unique as the racers do face each other throughout the season every night. NASCAR racers face each other at basically every event. The...
ESSENTIALLY

We are unique as the racers do face each other throughout the season every night. NASCAR racers face each other at basically every event. The PGA Tour created their version of "playoffs" with the FedEx Cup, and they also face each other at basically every event.

If we step out of the paradigm that "playoffs" can only be in sports where they never face each other every week, and see that "playoffs" can give our sport a shot of excitement at the end of a series. You see incredible things happen in playoffs where the favorite doesn't win because another guy got hot at the right time. Two years ago in the FedEx Cup, Rory McIlroy won two prior majors in golf and was the favorite for the title, but Billy Horschel got hot at the right time and claimed the cup and $10M prize money.

You and many others can see it as a gimmick, I see it as a way to progress the series. Many others have said AX was exciting as hell, NASCAR has been exciting as hell, why not try it out and see if it creates new energy to our sport. We can always go back if it fails.
...and I still don't watch golf. It's not the format. It's the medium in which a game/sport takes place and whether or not a person can...
...and I still don't watch golf. It's not the format. It's the medium in which a game/sport takes place and whether or not a person can find interest in it. I've tried golf and I know it's hard. But playoffs don't make it any more enjoyable to watch in my eyes.

This doesn't draw new fans, it just creates a divide between the one's who are already here. No one is rushing to their nearest AX for the first time because they heard through the grapevine about suitcases or the chase format.
I see the FedEx Cup and NASCAR chase as primarily a way for these sports to not lose their core viewership at the end of a season, more than bring in new fans. As it has been said in this thread, some NASCAR fans have found the chase to be very exciting. I don't care for NASCAR and don't watch it to begin with, so I see it as a way to stop the bleeding of viewership at the end of a season when engagement drops.
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2/24/2016 10:44am
Let's throw out all the points and then have the champion determined by an applause meter. Whomever gets the most applause at the final round wins. That would be fair.
2/24/2016 10:48am
NV825 wrote:
[b]ESSENTIALLY[/b] We are unique as the racers do face each other throughout the season every night. NASCAR racers face each other at basically every event. The...
ESSENTIALLY

We are unique as the racers do face each other throughout the season every night. NASCAR racers face each other at basically every event. The PGA Tour created their version of "playoffs" with the FedEx Cup, and they also face each other at basically every event.

If we step out of the paradigm that "playoffs" can only be in sports where they never face each other every week, and see that "playoffs" can give our sport a shot of excitement at the end of a series. You see incredible things happen in playoffs where the favorite doesn't win because another guy got hot at the right time. Two years ago in the FedEx Cup, Rory McIlroy won two prior majors in golf and was the favorite for the title, but Billy Horschel got hot at the right time and claimed the cup and $10M prize money.

You and many others can see it as a gimmick, I see it as a way to progress the series. Many others have said AX was exciting as hell, NASCAR has been exciting as hell, why not try it out and see if it creates new energy to our sport. We can always go back if it fails.
I just want to point out that you and I as well many others agree changes are needed if a more competitive series is desired. Which...
I just want to point out that you and I as well many others agree changes are needed if a more competitive series is desired. Which hopefully results in better attendance, growth, and more money. For those asking why do we need growth, it's simple growth equals money which has been a problem in this sport for years. While I don't agree with you on certain points or that this is the solution, I'm not trying to offend, argue or fight. I'm just trying to have an open dialogue to find the best possible solution. The fact is I agree changes can help and probably should be made. I'm all for them, I'm just not sure this is it, or if it is, we are there yet. All other sports mentioned got to this point by progressing and trying and implementing other smaller changes first that evolved to this as an end result. We seem to be jumping to the end without trying any other possible solutions, so the infrastructure for this system will not be as complete and our evolution will be incomplete. To me this does little to change the fact that the fast 1-3 are still going to be the fast 1-3 and will win, so this change seems arbitrary rather than substantive that will lead to long term progress. But again that just my opinion of this change should it happen, I'm all ears for other change ideas...
NV825 wrote:
At this point it's all hearsay on the chase format, and we don't know any of the specifics should it become a reality. Smaller changes like...
At this point it's all hearsay on the chase format, and we don't know any of the specifics should it become a reality. Smaller changes like different main formats, qualifying/holeshot/heat points, etc. could be the best thing to try first. All we can do now is wait and see what the specifics to the changes are, and see if it creates more excitement. If not, then back to the drawing board.
Agree, the most frustrating part of this topic is it has caused me to break my first rule of joining vital. Don't engage or get passionate about hearsay, speculation, and rumor! Lol
2/24/2016 10:57am
NV825 wrote:
[b]ESSENTIALLY[/b] We are unique as the racers do face each other throughout the season every night. NASCAR racers face each other at basically every event. The...
ESSENTIALLY

We are unique as the racers do face each other throughout the season every night. NASCAR racers face each other at basically every event. The PGA Tour created their version of "playoffs" with the FedEx Cup, and they also face each other at basically every event.

If we step out of the paradigm that "playoffs" can only be in sports where they never face each other every week, and see that "playoffs" can give our sport a shot of excitement at the end of a series. You see incredible things happen in playoffs where the favorite doesn't win because another guy got hot at the right time. Two years ago in the FedEx Cup, Rory McIlroy won two prior majors in golf and was the favorite for the title, but Billy Horschel got hot at the right time and claimed the cup and $10M prize money.

You and many others can see it as a gimmick, I see it as a way to progress the series. Many others have said AX was exciting as hell, NASCAR has been exciting as hell, why not try it out and see if it creates new energy to our sport. We can always go back if it fails.
...and I still don't watch golf. It's not the format. It's the medium in which a game/sport takes place and whether or not a person can...
...and I still don't watch golf. It's not the format. It's the medium in which a game/sport takes place and whether or not a person can find interest in it. I've tried golf and I know it's hard. But playoffs don't make it any more enjoyable to watch in my eyes.

This doesn't draw new fans, it just creates a divide between the one's who are already here. No one is rushing to their nearest AX for the first time because they heard through the grapevine about suitcases or the chase format.
NV825 wrote:
I see the FedEx Cup and NASCAR chase as primarily a way for these sports to not lose their core viewership at the end of a...
I see the FedEx Cup and NASCAR chase as primarily a way for these sports to not lose their core viewership at the end of a season, more than bring in new fans. As it has been said in this thread, some NASCAR fans have found the chase to be very exciting. I don't care for NASCAR and don't watch it to begin with, so I see it as a way to stop the bleeding of viewership at the end of a season when engagement drops.
I agree and think this is a valid point in regard to golf and NASCAR. I guess I've been coming at it from the standpoint in this sport that attracting and obtaining more viewership and attendance overall would be the desired goal. Maybe I'm wrong maybe they are just trying to cater to their core base and make it more engaging longer for those already interested. Which I can appreciate but worry about the longevity if that's the mindset, as we don't have the numbers to ride into the sunset on yet as NASCAR, and golf in my opinion.
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2/24/2016 11:06am
We all know that this is going to happen, i hope that they (FELD) take a close look at how they implement this. The last thing the sport needs is to turn this into championship of luck.

The only way I see it working is to limit the remaining riders (not in the chase) ability to interfeer with the chase riders in the first corner. Have a starting gate for the main that has the riders in the chase infront of the other riders. This is not a nascar race that gives a driver 500 miles to make up for a bad start caused by non chase riders we are talking about a 17 minute race.
2/24/2016 11:23am
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The final nail in the coffin as far as I'm concerned. Bring on the Nats.
They have been kicking it around for the nationals too Tongue
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2/24/2016 11:36am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2016 11:40am
Really going to try and keep an open mind about this but my initial gut reaction doesn't like the idea. I feel like the racing should favor the racers before the spectators.

I think they should add more incentives to the preliminary races, more of a payout throughout the field, allow 250 two strokes in the lites class and get rid of the east coast/west coast thing.

If they do go the chase route, will the 250's follow the format too or will they stick with the normal east/west championship? Also, I'd love it if someone on the podium said in an interview "Well third is like a win I guess since they're going to take my points from me in a couple races."
2/24/2016 11:37am
Mit12 wrote:
We all know that this is going to happen, i hope that they (FELD) take a close look at how they implement this. The last thing...
We all know that this is going to happen, i hope that they (FELD) take a close look at how they implement this. The last thing the sport needs is to turn this into championship of luck.

The only way I see it working is to limit the remaining riders (not in the chase) ability to interfeer with the chase riders in the first corner. Have a starting gate for the main that has the riders in the chase infront of the other riders. This is not a nascar race that gives a driver 500 miles to make up for a bad start caused by non chase riders we are talking about a 17 minute race.
Or just take the top 22 in points after round 10. Prequalified night show for 450's. 2 main events. What we always wanted. More quality, less quantity. Still a 14 race series at that point.
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2/24/2016 11:42am
MudPup545 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/02/23/125172/s1200_download.jpg[/img] Makes sense to me.:huh:

Makes sense to me.Huh
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THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

what is the point of multiple rounds (outside of selling multiple shows) if the title only means anything when you hit the last few rounds.


ALSO HAS ANYONE THOUGHT OF THE EFFECTS ITLL HAVE ON THE NATIONALS?
This could potentially hurt the nationals too. with everyone vying for a sx title by the end no one will be making any prep for outdoors and for a lot of riders it can really affect them which could lead to more injuries in outdoors. people forget SX is only Half of their season and riders only have a solid 2 weeks to prep, where as they get roughly 3 months or more if you race only east coast to prep.

this will sound crazy but at least the GP's havent tried this crap yet. and to a point i like their 17 round outdoor seires better than out nationals. i also like how theyre spread which allow time to heal. Heck herlings had enough time to recover from a broken leg and still almost win the title.

Perhaps a better solution would be to have a grand national series with a mix of SX(8) and MX(12). for selling tickets this would drive up demand as there are less "shows" it would also give time for guys who've been hurt.

For me i dont have the cash to go to both Oakland and Hangtown in a year, and Ive always gone to Hangtown.
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2/24/2016 11:47am Edited Date/Time 2/24/2016 11:49am
they should do a 2night monster cup style format, 1 million payout the weekend of the reset!

The chase is more about being able to sell excitement to sponsors not jacking the riders out of a championship.

Also make the 250s a 30 man gate and do away with the east west, have them run the same amount of races, with a chase format also.

Also make it 20 minutes plus 2 laps

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