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Once again, if this post doesnt answer the OP's questions, nothing will.
Here is the link for you:
http://www.pulpmx.com/pulpmx-show/2013/02/pulpmx-show-feb-18-andrew-sho…
Dr. Bodnar, who was key in formulating the AMA head injury treatment and evaluation protocols, is an ER doc who has been at SX and MX races for decades in a medical capacity and has seen more concussions withing minutes of them happening THAN ANY PERSON ON THE PLANET.
The amount of time a person is unconscious is not a valid indicator of brain damage. A person who suffers no loss of consciousness can suffer a more severe injury than someone who is out for minutes. It is true that we still don't know a lot about brain injuries, but Dr. Bodnar knows more than you knuckle heads, and there are many riders who he has kept from racing due to practice crashes over the years.
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While I love asterisks and everything they do for the riders, the concussion testing/protocol/rules are freaking stupid. Incredibly stupid.
Testing is done to give a baseline, when a rider is concussed, the medical staff will look for signs of a concussion, if they do believe he is, they will keep an eye on his symptoms, headaches, vomiting, confusion, etc. If the rider does not have the symptoms they will begin the new test, which he/she will have to pass in order to get cleared.
Again, this isn't just a physician looking at them, they take a computer test that has been found to help determine if he/she is still concussed by questions from a baseline. Now I know this isn't just the only way to do things, but it's a step in the right direction.
Someone mentioned before that there are not grades of concussions. Although this is true, only because it's difficult to grade a concussion, symptoms and their lengths are the true "grade" You only know the severity based on the length of symptoms.
But I will say this, just because he was knocked out, does not mean he even sustained a concussion at all. Now some will refute this, but when I asked my family member who is a physician, they stated that it is possible and could have not suffered as much trauma if he were not knocked out.
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One of the biggest issues the medical crew has is riders avoiding them after a get off in fear they might be asked to sit out.
There is only so much the doctors and crew can do.
It's a thread about Stewart's head bumps and these two youtube vids played in succession after the Dungey/Stewart A1 vid... I counted maybe 10-15 good head smacks.
Did mohammad Ali ever get knocked out? Look at him now
James has had a few , and I'll be damned if he aint one tough sum bitch! If he passed his tests and is willing to race , then that's all that matters. I wish him the best tonight and hope he comes out swinging.
Do our pros do a similar test prior to the season?
Anyone that knows anything about Adderall is aware that allows you to focus very well. I'm curious if someone got a concussion and three days later they took the concussion test and could not pass it if then they took an Adderall in an hour later it would allow them to pass that test.
No! I am not saying that this is what happened in this case. I'm not saying Stewart took an Adderall just to pass the concussion test. Knowing that Stewart takes Adderall it just got me thinking about what possible effects you would have in a situation like this.
But I think even that system could be gamed by the riders/teams. If I were a team owner and a baseline test is required, I could have my riders spend a couple of hours online at Vital prior to taking the test. That way I'd have some assurance that they'd be dumbed down sufficiently prior to taking their baseline. Then if they have an incident they'll appear to recover quickly
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How many concussions is too many? We're talking about brain damage -- if you don't want your brain to be harmed then just one is too many.
With all that being said....we can give all the opinions we want to but we don't have any of the information that the people i listed above. " Do " have.
Get well soon Mr. Stewart.
All the doctors can do is make recommendations. It's the sanctioning body that determines how to juggle what is best for the sport versus what is best for the long term health of it's athletes. All while weighing out the possibility of future liability.
Let me ask you this, how relieved do you think the doctors are that are involved in UFC that they have a mandatory 60 day cooling off period after head trauma?
And one other question, u dont see the irony here in a sport that suspended Bubba for PED usage is now allowing him to race just a week after a pretty serious crash? Any athlete will tell you that PED's help a athlete stay healthier throughout the season and if taken responsibly, wont hurt you long term. Find me a doctor that honestly thinks concussions are something u recover from in under a week and there isnt major risks here of long term permanent damage. You have to admit, there are some major inconsistencies here. If we are going to let guys ride with concussions this soon, all bets are off in my opinion. Let PEDs go as well.
This reminds me of the NFL fining/suspending guys for hitting a WR too hard for going over the middle. Claiming they care about "player safety" but then at the same time asking the players to play on Thursday nite games and pushing for a 18 game regular season. Total contradictions.
4thGearPinned, often you are dealing with the dumbest of the dumb on this forum. People who are so dumb that they do not realize how dumb they are.
Like Bobbym has said in the past, motocrossers aren't the brightest people in the world.
( A ) James is looking for an excuse not to race;
( B ) The concussion protocol isn't strict enough;
( C ) All of the above; or
( D ) None of the above
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