Most dissapointing purchase in mx/sx.

wwoberg
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2/21/2015 4:00am
One of those cable luber things.

Very surprised a number of you feel suspension mods are worthless. I has always got it done and have always been surprised how much better it got, even with the adjustability of today's stock setups.
downard254
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2/21/2015 4:20am
Two come to mind.

1986 Suzuki RM125. That thing wouldn't outrun its own shadow. Suspension was good, but how bad can it be when I can push it faster than it will run. Which brings me to No. 2. PSI engine porting and pipe for said bike. $400 and the bike was no different at all. It was a pretty pipe though. Saddest part is I rode a friends bone stock '86 CR125 and it ran like a 250 compared to my modded RM.

Another more recent bad purchase: Scott 360 MX boots. Took all of two hours for my foot pegs to chew their way 90% of the way through my soles. Horrible boot.

As far as suspension work goes, I'm a believer except for one company. I've has great results from White Bros., Race Tech, and local tuner JDPerformance.
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2/21/2015 5:18am
TbonesPop wrote:
04 CRF250, was a damn money pit on valve jobs
I had the same experience my friend, I feel your pain 11 years later on that purchase.

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2/21/2015 5:31am Edited Date/Time 2/21/2015 5:32am
wwoberg wrote:
One of those cable luber things. Very surprised a number of you feel suspension mods are worthless. I has always got it done and have always...
One of those cable luber things.

Very surprised a number of you feel suspension mods are worthless. I has always got it done and have always been surprised how much better it got, even with the adjustability of today's stock setups.
Love my "cable luber thing"...

Hated the Iron Jaw I bought a few years back Blush , worst thing ever for a claustrophobic.
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2/21/2015 5:39am
2000 KX250 what a turd, Only time in my life I stepped off of Red for another brand. Lesson learned.
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2/21/2015 5:44am
My 03 KTM 450 exc, not that it was a bad bike just for me a 450 is to much bike for woods racing my 06 400exc was much better and then the 07 250 xcf-w was a great bike. I held on the the 03 and used it for trail rides ad D/S rides. The only one that i have left is my 02 200exc it's a keeper.
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2/21/2015 5:50am
wwoberg wrote:
One of those cable luber things. Very surprised a number of you feel suspension mods are worthless. I has always got it done and have always...
One of those cable luber things.

Very surprised a number of you feel suspension mods are worthless. I has always got it done and have always been surprised how much better it got, even with the adjustability of today's stock setups.
KMC440 wrote:
Love my "cable luber thing"...

Hated the Iron Jaw I bought a few years back Blush , worst thing ever for a claustrophobic.
If you race you should be able to work you own suspension, if you have someone else valve your sus will they make changes? I would think it would be unlikely that someone else could get it right the first time.
2/21/2015 6:06am
1997 CR 250, thinking about that bike still gives me nightmares. The worst part was I sold my 96 CR 250 before I rode my 97. Made it about halfway through the season then I just threw in the towel. Couldn't wait to get rid of it. Only Honda that I have not liked though.
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downard254 wrote:
Two come to mind. 1986 Suzuki RM125. That thing wouldn't outrun its own shadow. Suspension was good, but how bad can it be when I can...
Two come to mind.

1986 Suzuki RM125. That thing wouldn't outrun its own shadow. Suspension was good, but how bad can it be when I can push it faster than it will run. Which brings me to No. 2. PSI engine porting and pipe for said bike. $400 and the bike was no different at all. It was a pretty pipe though. Saddest part is I rode a friends bone stock '86 CR125 and it ran like a 250 compared to my modded RM.

Another more recent bad purchase: Scott 360 MX boots. Took all of two hours for my foot pegs to chew their way 90% of the way through my soles. Horrible boot.

As far as suspension work goes, I'm a believer except for one company. I've has great results from White Bros., Race Tech, and local tuner JDPerformance.
I recently bought an 86 KX125 with the intention of restoring it to race vintage, worst $900 I've ever spent.
Sold it for $950 though to a French guy, didn't even start it. He just gave me the money and loaded it up.
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2/21/2015 6:15am Edited Date/Time 2/21/2015 11:50am
Scott boots! I worked all summer to get a pair. My father said to get a set of Hi Point boots, but I insisted that Scott
boots were better. Try for a week to ride with them, went back to my old Hi Point boots, which were two sizes too small.
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2/21/2015 6:26am
04 kawasaki 250f, what a shithole
2/21/2015 6:31am
bents wrote:
1981 CR 125 and 250. To think I passed on the suzuki full floaters for these pieces of shit.......
I'll second the 81 CR125.. im still limping from that turkey. What was it all about? 1 forward gear and 5 reverse, turned like a ship and handled like an ice cream van.
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2/21/2015 6:36am
POS Thor boots. Two of the buckles broke the first time I tried it on at home.
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Scott 89Xi roll-off goggles. First time I used them the string got stuck fully extended. Next time the door fell off and all of the film ended up in my rear wheel.
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2/21/2015 6:46am
Top of my list is the 1979 RM125. As a kid, I'd work all Summer in the lumber yard to save money to buy a new bike in the Fall. Those 79' RM's were so out-of-this-world looking, with the polygon fenders. Considering the competition that year (the Yamaha's were awful, the CR's had those goofy 23" front wheels and the Kawasakis...well, maybe not so bad, but I wasn't high on them) the RM was a no brainer. My friends had all been riding the 77' and 78' models and they were rockets. The 79' wasn't slow, but I spent more time pushing it, than riding it. The least-reliable bike I've ever owned. Period. For a kid who'd worked his ass off to buy that thing, I was pissed. It was almost 30 years before I brought myself to buy another Suzuki, and it wasn't for me, but for my son (JR-50, RM65 & RM85).

Second would be Scott Boots (I share my disdain for these things with Original 44). My hero, Bob Hannah wore them, so they had to be awesome, right? For those of you who never had the pleasure of riding with these babies, imagine putting on ski boots and riding your bike. You couldn't feel crap. They basically shut your feet/legs out from the outside world. Even worse was wearing them and riding a twin-shocker. When you got your weight back on the bike, and the boots came in contact with the bulges on the side of the bike, it was like it created a leverage point, and it tried to pry your feet off of the pegs. Awful. I unloaded them on a friend who just had to have them, and bought me some High Points.

The only thing that comes to mind for recent purchases is one of those chain scrubber things. It has bristles on three sides and created a channel that you'd run the chain through. That thing literally fell apart the first time I used it.



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2/21/2015 6:49am
Tech 8's. Heavy, uncomfortable and they fell apart.
2/21/2015 7:24am
2000 Kx250 crazy head shake but what did it for me was the bike would just go wide open throttle on its own. I cleaned the carb numerous times even had a wiser friend clean it change throttle cable, but it would still just randomly stick wot at the worst times. I finally got rid of it when it stuck in a rythdm section and I went for a superman flight. I determined that it had to have a bad seal but I never kept it to find out
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2/21/2015 7:34am
Redrcr34 wrote:
1997 Honda cr 250 Pos
bvm111 wrote:
Ill add the 98 CR250.... broke my relationship with Honda!
Me as well. I was Honda faithful from '86 to '98 . After that nightmare I jumped on the '99YZ400 bandwagon, had a shit ton of fun. Now I just buy whatever MXA says to buy Smile
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2/21/2015 7:42am
1991 YZ125 - Pretty sure most 85's made more power. (From reading other's posts, maybe the 81 CR125, 86 RM125, and 91 YZ125 could have a shoot-out for slowest 125 possible !).

2011 KTM350SX - What should have been a perfect compromise between 250 and 450, had no low-end, flat mid, and revved forever. To me, it was like a heavy 125.
2/21/2015 7:46am
A pair of plaatic boots, don't believe the hype.
Ryan598
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2/21/2015 7:51am
My 2014 YZ450. i had yamahas from like 2001-2008 and switched. Thought this new one would be awesome and went out and bought it as soon as they came out. I hated everything about that bike. I don't see why everyone thinks Yamaha has such good suspension. I now have a kx450 and in my opinion it's stock suspension makes the yamaha look dumb.
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2/21/2015 7:55am
I can't believe so many guys hated the 98 CR250. I did the suspension and a couple minor motor mods and that this was a rocket. It pulled damn near as well as my cr500. Oh well the worst experience I've bad was Amsoil fork oil. To slippery, had a lot of suspensions to redo when they leaked almost immediately after hitting the track. Cost me quite a bit.
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2/21/2015 7:58am
A 4 stroke. Will not have one again unless someone will sponsor me too pay the maintenance and repair bills. And that will never happen for me
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2/21/2015 8:09am
VB188 wrote:
04 kawasaki 250f, what a shithole
I know lots of people had a lot of issues with this bike but I had an '04 RMZ 250, weighed 210 pounds racing A class and didn't have any issues other than a little coolant pissing out here and there. One of my favorite bikes.
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2/21/2015 8:13am
1980 Can Am 125 MX-6

The original Bell Moto-Star

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2/21/2015 8:36am
My last new bike 2013 crf250r. It was slower than my 06 crf250, and the clutch started slipping after two rides. It wouldn't even start when hot. Finally gave up and traded it for a 2012 KTM 150sx.
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2/21/2015 9:14am
1993 YZ 125, biggest pig I ever rode...
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A 4 stroke. Will not have one again unless someone will sponsor me too pay the maintenance and repair bills. And that will never happen for...
A 4 stroke. Will not have one again unless someone will sponsor me too pay the maintenance and repair bills. And that will never happen for me
Really?

I got a YZF400 when they came out, then 426, 250f, and about 5 different 450's along with my trusty XR600R.

Never really had any issues with any other than maintenance.. but, then I'm not all that hard on them either.
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2/21/2015 9:26am
2003 KTM 250 SX. Both unstable and really didn't turn that well. Fast as hell but vibrated your fillings loose. It just had a crude feeling to me.

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