Brian Deegan on FIM and JS7

rocketsocks26 12/17/2014 11:21am
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100% with deegan!! Fck the FIM! Like him or not, hes great for our sport!!!
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P 12/17/2014 11:23am
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Doesn't James currently have the TUE? 16 months for not getting prior approval seems a little steep.


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rocketsocks26 wrote:
100% with deegan!! Fck the FIM! Like him or not, hes great for our sport!!!
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moto282 12/17/2014 11:55am
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Regardless if you think the AMA would've done any better or worse, I think it's funny to suggest the FIM isn't a European organization because they have a few people from different countries working there. It's like the GPs... they have a few races outside Europe but people still say RV is going to race in Europe. There's even a Renthal ad in this forum with RV saying EUROPE2014 haha.
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Oh the irony
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elementmx 12/17/2014 12:14pm
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Hell Yea Deegan!

Fuck the FIM!

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yak651 12/17/2014 12:23pm
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Ha, NFL run by Billionaires gives a 4 game suspension for adderal, MX/SX run by Millionaires gives a 16 month suspension for adderal. Un-frickening real - and I'm not a JS7 fan!
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Flatliner 12/17/2014 12:31pm
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scott_nz wrote:
you mean a guy that raced big bores in pro nationals, and then had his kid race a big bore in a amatuer race, does not...
you mean a guy that raced big bores in pro nationals, and then had his kid race a big bore in a amatuer race, does not think rules should be enforced? thats a shocker right there,

Don't kid yourself, lots of riders ran big bores back in the day.
2WheelsForTheMasses 12/17/2014 12:31pm
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500guy wrote:
That's just it, it's at the discretion of someone it should never be at.
scott_nz wrote:
do you beleive the AMA and USADA would have ignored his PED use?
500guy wrote:
The FIM is as crooked as a dog's hind leg, I think James would have had a better chance at a realistic penalty. Not some BS...
The FIM is as crooked as a dog's hind leg, I think James would have had a better chance at a realistic penalty.

Not some BS 16 months , He didn't rob a bank.
Finally someone who understands the Fim...Giuseppe Luongo is one of the most shady people in this industry along with a few others over there on the Fim commission, I guess theres a reason they cant fill in that head spot...
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yak651 wrote:
Ha, NFL run by Billionaires gives a 4 game suspension for adderal, MX/SX run by Millionaires gives a 16 month suspension for adderal. Un-frickening real -...
Ha, NFL run by Billionaires gives a 4 game suspension for adderal, MX/SX run by Millionaires gives a 16 month suspension for adderal. Un-frickening real - and I'm not a JS7 fan!
Even the second time getting caught on steroids in the NFL is only a 10 game lol
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Cashmore 12/17/2014 12:33pm
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motosmith wrote:
Don't do the crime if you cant do the time.
Please tell me what "crime" was committed Yes, he failed to get the TUE before hand, however he has a prescription for it. Old saying, however doesn't fit the bill.
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scott_nz wrote:
you mean a guy that raced big bores in pro nationals, and then had his kid race a big bore in a amatuer race, does not...
you mean a guy that raced big bores in pro nationals, and then had his kid race a big bore in a amatuer race, does not think rules should be enforced? thats a shocker right there,

out of the park right there...
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avidchimp 12/17/2014 12:40pm
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Right or wrong, this AMA/Jamsports bullshit is finally rearing it's ugly head.
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FWYT 12/17/2014 12:47pm
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JamesOliver wrote:
Keep in mind Brian Deegan intentionally gave his kid an illegally bored bike at some big mini race this year and got found out and his...
Keep in mind Brian Deegan intentionally gave his kid an illegally bored bike at some big mini race this year and got found out and his kid was disqualified. Rules are rules, stick to them.
Oh, snap!
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Skerby 12/17/2014 12:52pm
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International = europe. They have like 30 countries over there so they say things like 'world' and 'international'.
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Im gonna go as far to say that if Cairoli tested positive for anything he wouldnt be penalized to this extent.
I am in total agreement with you. This is pure, unadulterated bullshit and needs to be fought.

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Markee 12/17/2014 1:00pm
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Skerby wrote:
International = europe. They have like 30 countries over there so they say things like 'world' and 'international'.
Just read the PR on the racerX

They made James Stewart fly to switzerland to be heard by a Indian Judge at a Best Western!! That screams legit and we do care.

"In consideration of Article 8.1.1 CAD and Article 3.3.2 of the FIM Disciplinary and Arbitration Code, Mr Stewart was heard by the CDI during a Hearing at the Best Western Hotel at Chavannes-de-Bogis, Switzerland, on 23 October 2014."
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Crash82 12/17/2014 1:24pm
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P wrote:
Doesn't James currently have the TUE? 16 months for not getting prior approval seems a little steep.


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I'm with you on this P, it's not like he was using illegal fuel or something!
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VicDaMoan03 12/17/2014 1:35pm
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Can JS7 race Daytona SX?
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kiwifan 12/17/2014 1:42pm
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ML512 wrote:
So would you all be okay if we had AMA and USADA taking care of Supercross, if they gave him the same penalty?
hehehe I see what you did there! :-)
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kiwifan 12/17/2014 1:44pm
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scott_nz wrote:
you mean a guy that raced big bores in pro nationals, and then had his kid race a big bore in a amatuer race, does not...
you mean a guy that raced big bores in pro nationals, and then had his kid race a big bore in a amatuer race, does not think rules should be enforced? thats a shocker right there,

BOOM!!!
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PTshox 12/17/2014 1:47pm
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this is stupid.. James should be able to race.

The AMA won't do anything... So the fans should simply not show up at SX races. That would send a clear message to the AMA.
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ttproducts 12/17/2014 1:48pm
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rocketsocks26 wrote:
100% with deegan!! Fck the FIM! Like him or not, hes great for our sport!!!
First off this ban is bullshit. The drug isn't the issue because he can carry on using it when he gets back. The issue is he didn't have a piece of paper filed with someone. Yep, it was f**k up, maybe even deceitful but a 16 months ban, seriously?

Seems to me that the power to do something about this is with the SX owners. If they need the FIM then they need to go with this. If they don't need the FIM (and I can't really see why they do) they can just decide to ignore it, drop the World Championship tag, issues their own race licences (ok, it's more difficult than that I know) and get on with things with JS7 behind the gate.

The FIM looks a lot like an organisation that exists to serve itself; if they can do something to increase their power they will. I'm not sure what the FIM's plan is here but it doesn't look like it has much to do with their primary aim - to assure sporting behaviour.

I'm not really sure why Stewart can't ride the outdoor series - it's not AMA/FIM so they can do what they want within reason. I'd say hold a great big FU up to the FIM come the outdoor season (but I'm not the guy back in Suzuki Japan who's just committed a small fortune on a Moto GP team).

The reason Youthstream get away with so much is because there's no credible 'opposition' and they have the absolute support of the FIM. It really is time the manufacturers and After Market industry held the FIM to account and forced some changes. The FIM has abused its power here and that's a dangerous thing to allow unchecked.

And... What on earth is it with some of you American folks - how can it possibly be my fault that James Stewart is banned from SX? It's not Europeans who did this its the FIM (whose members may or may not be from Europe).
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jamma10 12/17/2014 1:52pm
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The president of the FIM is from Venezuela - thats a hell of a lot closer to America than it is Europe.
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Kawaboy14 12/17/2014 1:57pm
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Boston tea party?
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ktm212 12/17/2014 2:03pm
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Deegan sure comes off like a real asshole.
lostboy819 12/17/2014 2:06pm
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P wrote:
Doesn't James currently have the TUE? 16 months for not getting prior approval seems a little steep.


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If Stewart had a prescription before the piss test then I agree the 16 months is excessive,now if he got the prescription after he got caught then 16 months is fair considering 8 months of it was time served. All depends on when he got the prescription from a Doctor.

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